so after 500 charges

[azure247]

My ipod touch battery dies and I lost 400$? At 500 charges thats about .80$ loss for every full charge you do.

[SnowLeopard2008]

you can replace the battery (however difficult). just buy an OEM part from eBay or any site that sells parts for ipods. Then go to ifixit.com and find out how to replace the battery.

[YodaEXE]

My ipod touch battery dies and I lost 400$? At 500 charges thats about .80$ loss for every full charge you do.

Where are you getting that number from?

[baseball-kid8]

Where are you getting that number from?


400/500=.80

[quick5pnt0]

Where are you getting that number from?

$400 divided by 500 charges is $0.80 a charge. What I don't get is how you know it was 500 charges? Did you actually count each one? Were they full charges from dead or just partial charges?

You can change the battery yourself. Just look on ebay for the battery replacement kits. Usually they include the plastic tools you need to pry the case open. Otherwise I believe you can send it back to Apple and they'll replace it with one of their batteries. (for a price of course)

I really wish Apple would stop jerking their customers around and make these things with easily replaceable batteries.

[TEG]

If you are within the first year, just call Apple Care or goto and Apple Store and they will replace it. If you are outside of that, just take it to an Apple Store (or Call Apple Care) and participate in the Battery Exchange. For a small price you give them your iPod and they give you a "new" one. I know for most iPods it is $60, I'm not sure about the touch, but I suspect it will be in that range.

TEG

[YodaEXE]

Yeah, I don't know where he's getting the 500 charges from. That doesn't seem right to me.

[HappyDude20]

If you are within the first year, just call Apple Care or goto and Apple Store and they will replace it. If you are outside of that, just take it to an Apple Store (or Call Apple Care) and participate in the Battery Exchange. For a small price you give them your iPod and they give you a "new" one. I know for most iPods it is $60, I'm not sure about the touch, but I suspect it will be in that range.

TEG

so someone with a 1g touch with a dead battery can pay around $60 for a new 2g touch?

[njguyfla]

so someone with a 1g touch with a dead battery can pay around $60 for a new 2g touch?

No, they replace the battery in your unit for $60.

[quick5pnt0]

so someone with a 1g touch with a dead battery can pay around $60 for a new 2g touch?

No, even if they swapped your touch for another one they'd still be giving you a refurbished 1g. I'm almost certain that they just change the battery in your touch though.

BTW It's $79
http://www.apple.com/support/ipod/service/prices/#us

[Muncher]

You also have to think about your level of charge. Leaving a device at full charge most of the time will result in a %20 battery capacity loss over a year, while being at the optimum %40 percent charge level results in a loss of only %4.

Just adding more stress. Really, though, just enjoy the device. 500 isn't an absolute limit, and I'm sure you could squeeze 520 - 550 in there at the least. They probably under-estimate like drug companies under estimate max dosage so they don't get sued.

[Aeroplane]

Yeah, I don't know where he's getting the 500 charges from. That doesn't seem right to me.

that's what lithium ion batteries last , cell phones, cameras and other electronic appliances have the same battery life...500 charges and then it diesss!!!! :p

[mackmgg]

My ipod touch battery dies and I lost 400$? At 500 charges thats about .80$ loss for every full charge you do.

ok just get it replaced by applecare unless u voided the warrenty sumhow it has been about 11mths since it came out, so NOBODYS warrentys are passed 1 yr yet, and also 300 days and 500 charges that cant be rite.

[ukitali]

I think he's just asking for future reference. Also batteries in cameras, cell phones, etc are easily replaceable and cheap unlike ipod batteries.

[0sync0]

Aging of lithium-ion is an issue that is often ignored. A lithium-ion battery in use typically lasts between 2-3 years. The capacity loss manifests itself in increased internal resistance caused by oxidation.
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm

[Eric Isaacson]

You also have to think about your level of charge. Leaving a device at full charge most of the time will result in a %20 battery capacity loss over a year, while being at the optimum %40 percent charge level results in a loss of only %4.


Do you mind sharing where you got this info? I've never seen it before.

[angels lust]

iPhone only has 350 charges before it dies. The price of modern day electronics I suppose. I'm glad I got the two-year warranty, by the time my battery is on it's last leg I'll send it in and hope for the best.

Actually, who am I kidding? I'll probably just upgrade in 2 years. :o

[hexonxonx]

iPhone only has 350 charges before it dies. The price of modern day electronics I suppose. I'm glad I got the two-year warranty, by the time my battery is on it's last leg I'll send it in and hope for the best.

Actually, who am I kidding? I'll probably just upgrade in 2 years. :o

Correction: It can go to 350 cycles before it starts losing charge capacity a little bit at a time. Most likely, the battery can go to 500-600 cycles before it really isn't worth charging anymore. It doesn't die after 350 charges.

[mosx]

Wow some bad info about batteries here.

The general rule is that lithium ion and lithium polymer batteries are designed to retain 80% capacity after 500 cycles. Some say 350-500 to cover themselves and not have to service the battery under warranty.

If you take care of your battery by not running it dead before each charge and charging it and using it as often as possible, then, theoritically, it should still have have 60% capacity after 1,000 cycles.

Take care of your battery, use it properly, don't run it dead, and it will be very usable for years to come.

[Muncher]

http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm

[Naro]

Wow some bad info about batteries here.

The general rule is that lithium ion and lithium polymer batteries are designed to retain 80% capacity after 500 cycles. Some say 350-500 to cover themselves and not have to service the battery under warranty.

If you take care of your battery by not running it dead before each charge and charging it and using it as often as possible, then, theoritically, it should still have have 60% capacity after 1,000 cycles.

Take care of your battery, use it properly, don't run it dead, and it will be very usable for years to come.

Do you agree with not charging it until it hits 40%

[teohyc]

I got a 32GB. Think it'll be too expensive to let it fail.

Better to get Applecare.