PdaNet released for iPhone - Now truly tether your laptop to your iPhone

[atsitalian]

After missing true tethering between my mobile device and laptop when I am on the road with no free WIFI available, PdaNet has finally been released on Cydia with for my jailbroken iPhone. I am trult pumped beacause now I can easily access the internet and use my Outlook on my laptop which is wirelessly tethered to my iPhone HORRAY!!!!

[fireshot91]

this isn't working for me. it says "Currently your iPhone is set to use an existing WiFi connection for Internet access. In order to use PdaNet, please change your iPhone's WiFi settings to connect to your computer through a peer-to-peer (ad-hoc) connection, then launch PdaNet again."

[Foamer]

Works freaking great! I was in dire need of this last night, and then found it this morning. I was out far in the woods, had great signal, but no wi-fi hotspots anywhere even remotely close, and had to do something on the computer. I wish I would have found it last night.

[atsitalian]

this isn't working for me. it says "Currently your iPhone is set to use an existing WiFi connection for Internet access. In order to use PdaNet, please change your iPhone's WiFi settings to connect to your computer through a peer-to-peer (ad-hoc) connection, then launch PdaNet again."

try connecting the laptop to the iphone last.

[fireshot91]

? I didn't connect it yet. lmao. What do I do once I install it? connect via USB? how do I turn Ad-Hoc on or whatever?

[bbplayer5]

I prefer the other solution on Cydia. - iphone modem

[jcde7ago]

I prefer the other solution on Cydia. - iphone modem

Except iphonemodem isn't TRUE tethering. It works through a proxy server. You'll notice that when using iPhoneModem, at least on a Windows PC, you won't be able to access all websites through firefox or run any program that doesn't work through a proxy, unlike this. I've used iPhoneModem, i've used NetShare...and PdaNet beats them both, as it is not limited to a socks proxy port so it is exactly as if your iPhone was a wireless router that your laptop is connected to (which is technically what PdaNet does).

[atsitalian]

? I didn't connect it yet. lmao. What do I do once I install it? connect via USB? how do I turn Ad-Hoc on or whatever?

After installation of PdaNet on your iphone follow these steps

Step 1 - Set-up an adhoc wireless network your laptop. Depending on what OS (XP/Vista or some Apple OS) you are using each is different.

Step 2 - From your laptop ask to connect to your new adhoc network.

Step 3 - On your iphone go to settings WiFi and conect to the same adhoc network.

Step 4 - Start-up PDA-Net application on the iPhone and turn on the WiFi Router button on the bottom of the screen.

Step 5 - Enjoy real tethering

If it still won't work, from the PC disconnect and reconnect to the adhoc network.

[The General]

This is DEFINITELY more along the lines of what I was talking about here:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=569304

Now I just wish the iPhone would initiate the adhoc network. At least now I don't have to change settings and stuff, just start adhoc network and fireup pdanet. I can use any program now. :) Not just ones that can be set to use the global proxy.

[fireshot91]

i'm on XP how do I set up Ad-Hoc?

[atsitalian]

i'm on XP how do I set up Ad-Hoc?

I have Vista but here is a link on how to do it with XP

http://www.home-network-help.com/ad-hoc-wireless-network.html

[domness]

Hmmm, I wasn't going to download this.. but now from everyones comment I think I may just quickly try it :D

Anything to keep me going on the laptop when I'm on the move :)

[fireshot91]

Wow, this stuff is hard as heck to do...: ( I thought it would be like you enter the IP address of the iPhone into the computer, and you're done..lmao

[DaveOZ]

Why can't they just make it like WMWiFi Router for Windows Mobile? It turns the phone into a WiFi modem and your laptop just automatically connects to it.

[domness]

Haha! This is amazing! No more messing about with stupid proxies etc!

(I'm writing this using my iPhone's internet..)

I can actually browse USING FIREFOX, I can use uTorrent, MSN, Google Desktop and pretty much all applications! It's just like it's connected to a normal Wifi.. and it actually gives instructions too on the iPhone screen! :

EDIT: It's funny that I'm downloading a Mac OS X ISO to my laptop using uTorrent using my iPhone Unlimited Data! :P

[jcde7ago]

Why can't they just make it like WMWiFi Router for Windows Mobile? It turns the phone into a WiFi modem and your laptop just automatically connects to it.

This is essentially what it does. A lot of people here are making it seem like more trouble than it actually is.

1. Download PdaNet through Cydia.

2. Create an ad-hoc network on Vista. click Start > Network (right hand side of the start bar) > click Network and Sharing tab on the top > click set up a connection or network.

3. Choose wireless ad-hoc for your new network. Leave encryption to "none", unless you want to set up a WEP, and give your network a simple name like "iPhone Tether".

4. Vista will notify you that it is finished and waiting for something to connect to your new network.

5. Fire up PdaNet. Make sure Wireless Router option at the bottom is set to "On." It'll check to make sure you have access to your cellular data network. Once it confirms this, exit out of PdaNet.

6. On your iPhone, go to Settings > Wifi > connect to your ad-hoc network, "iPhone Tether" (or whatever it is you named it).

7. Fire up PdaNet again, and it will automactically connect your computer to the internet. You're done. You can exit PdaNet and have it run in the background as long as you don't turn the wireless router option to OFF, enabling you to lock and turn off the screen, thus saving the battery (which you can also keep fully charged this way).

In reality, all of these steps take less than 2 minutes for anyone who knows what they're doing...and after you save these wireless settings on the computer, it's just a matter of seconds to get it working after that first time you set it up. If not, some people who don't know what they're doing are better off using mobile safari on their iPhone...;)

[domness]

@jcde7ago - Cheers for giving those instructions. Saves alot of time and reading for those who just keep on asking how it works and how to do it.

In other news, it works brilliantly and definitly an app to download :D

[bbplayer5]

Except iphonemodem isn't TRUE tethering. It works through a proxy server. You'll notice that when using iPhoneModem, at least on a Windows PC, you won't be able to access all websites through firefox or run any program that doesn't work through a proxy, unlike this. I've used iPhoneModem, i've used NetShare...and PdaNet beats them both, as it is not limited to a socks proxy port so it is exactly as if your iPhone was a wireless router that your laptop is connected to (which is technically what PdaNet does).

oh wow, ill try it then

[The General]

OMG Skype video chat works over 3G using this program.

[CocoaPuffs]

XP guide here:

Double click on wireless icon on bottom right
Click on Changed Advance Settings
Click on Wireless Networks tab
Click on Advanced button on the bottom right of the box
Select "Computer to Computer (ad hoc) networks only
Click on Add
Name your SSID, you can put whatever you want there
Disable Data encryption - or you can add it.
OK and Ok to close out wireless network settings.
Now go to settings on iPhone and select the network you have just created using WiFi
Once connected, turn on PdaNet and you're set

[The General]

XP guide here:

Double click on wireless icon on bottom right
Click on Changed Advance Settings
Click on Wireless Networks tab
Click on Advanced button on the bottom right of the box
Select "Computer to Computer (ad hoc) networks only
Click on Add
Name your SSID, you can put whatever you want there
Disable Data encryption - or you can add it.
OK and Ok to close out wireless network settings.
Now go to settings on iPhone and select the network you have just created using WiFi
Once connected, turn on PdaNet and you're set


Mac Guide here:


Go to the Wi-Fi menu in the Menu Bar and click "Create Network..." Name it whatever you want and hit OK
Now go to settings on iPhone and select the network you have just created using WiFi
Turn on PdaNet and browse the intarwebz

[mrcrlee]

Worked great. No static IP. No proxy. Just tether, turn on the pdanet router and voila. I used Pdanet on my Treo, prior to getting an iPhone and it never worked this well :)

Good bye Netshare.

Just curious, but has it be definitively decided that if you tether, you won't face extra charges (assuming you don't run a mobile torrent client or something excessive like that)?

-Chris

[rwd hero]

This is the first tethering app. i have been able to get to work. This was one of my biggest complaints of the iphone. After jailbreaking my iphone has turned into the best cellphone i could ask for.

[Speedracer04]

NICE! Works great

Question though, if I for some reason ever wanted to delete the Ad Hoc network I created, what do I have to do? Just uncheck "remember this network"?

[nocoast]

This **** is wonderful. After spending the week trying netshare, iphone modem, the .de version of iphone modem (lol) and Bosspreffs socks/3 proxy commands (all of them working successfully except for the Pay version iphone modem) This is SO MUCH MORE convenient. No stupid static IP configuration that xp has to deal with. My phone is currently closed out of pdanet, screen off and its still running :D I dont see what they could've done to make this much easier...

[Maven1975]

Fantastic!!!!

They need to put up a donation site or a button on their site. I would GLADLY throw them a few bones for R&D!

Great job June Fabrics!

[hotshotharry]

Absolutely the best solution so far!!! the only thing that would top it is if it would create the network itself so that you could use it with devices other than a laptop :-)

highly recommended. I will be donating if i can find the spot!

[Phil A.]

Looks promising - does it continue to run in the background?

[gangzoom]

Fantasic App, I payed for iPhone Modem and this works much better!! My £35 O2 contract seems like a bargain all of a sudden :D

[mcmacmike]

I have a question. I got pdanet to work and I'm browsing the web with my laptop. When connected it has Bytes, DNS Lookups, and Connections displayed. What does connections mean and why does the number keep going up and down?

[Phil A.]

Fantasic App, I payed for iPhone Modem and this works much better!! My £35 O2 contract seems like a bargain all of a sudden :D

As I've mentioned in another thread, it is strictly against O2's Terms and Conditions to use the iPhone like this - if they catch you then you could be facing a huge bill (£2.00 or so per Megabyte!).

[reliantj]

i cant get it to work.
i try to go into my wireless card's advance tab but the only thing that shows up in the advance tab is something about the firewall.

only when i enable my LAN does the 'share internet connnection' show up in my wireless cards' advanced settings.

then whenever i try to enable share internet connection and click okay it says that

An error occured while Internet Connection Sharing was being enabled.
Internet Connection Sharing Cannot be enabled.
A LAN connection is already configured with the IP address that is required for the automatic IP addressing.

[nvj]

i cant get it to work.
i try to go into my wireless card's advance tab but the only thing that shows up in the advance tab is something about the firewall.

only when i enable my LAN does the 'share internet connnection' show up in my wireless cards' advanced settings.

then whenever i try to enable share internet connection and click okay it says that

An error occured while Internet Connection Sharing was being enabled.
Internet Connection Sharing Cannot be enabled.
A LAN connection is already configured with the IP address that is required for the automatic IP addressing.

You are over-doing your settings. The software is easier to setup (if any) than you thought. You don't need to change anything in the Advanced tab, just the Wireless Network tab to create the ad-hoc. You can see more details at
http://iphonefreakz.com/2008/09/25/cydia-pdanet-iphone-tether-your-laptoppc-to-your-iphone/

[yogiUK]

would this work on my ibook even tho my iphone is sync'd to a different PC!:D

[CocoaPuffs]

would this work on my ibook even tho my iphone is sync'd to a different PC!:D
This will on MAC, XP and Vista.

[reliantj]

You are over-doing your settings. The software is easier to setup (if any) than you thought. You don't need to change anything in the Advanced tab, just the Wireless Network tab to create the ad-hoc. You can see more details at
http://iphonefreakz.com/2008/09/25/cydia-pdanet-iphone-tether-your-laptoppc-to-your-iphone/

agh i found it.
double click wireless icon by the clock
general page>click properties
wireless networks

i'm an idiot.

thanks.

[imfrog2002]

Crappy T-Mobile won't let it connect. It must only work for AT&T. I'm getting constant $CODE$ -_-

[freitas]

Great app. By far the easiest to setup and use of any tethering solution so far. I recommend that mac user setup a new location with just the wifi adhoc network. Then you can easily switch locations and tether at will. Only thing I don't like is the IE symbol in the icon.

[moonknife]

I was waiting for this! This is a great piece of software. I've used it for almost 2 years back when I had my Motorola Q thru Verizon evdo. Now it's time to get this on my iPhone :D

[Dr Lu 2010]

so easy..even i figured out how to do it!

works great

awesome.

[Lionheart]

After installation of PdaNet on your iphone follow these steps

Step 1 - Set-up an adhoc wireless network your laptop. Depending on what OS (XP/Vista or some Apple OS) you are using each is different.

Step 2 - From your laptop ask to connect to your new adhoc network.

Step 3 - On your iphone go to settings WiFi and conect to the same adhoc network.

Step 4 - Start-up PDA-Net application on the iPhone and turn on the WiFi Router button on the bottom of the screen.

Step 5 - Enjoy real tethering

If it still won't work, from the PC disconnect and reconnect to the adhoc network.

I did this EXACTLY, numerous times. Saw a connection one time, but still couldn't connect in Safari. Weird. Wish I could get this working. Don't know what the secret is...


Update: Re-installed it and it works.. kind of. But not really. Slower that molasses. I'll keep trying..

[rwd hero]

I have a question that i hope someone here can help me with. When i am tethering with my windows laptop and iphone the internet works beautifuly, except the website mmaload.com. This website streams mma pay-per-views. I get an error (Data Execution Prevention (DEP) has shut this operation down...). Anyone have any idea how to get this to stop? Its extremly frusterating because i want to be able to watch these PPV's at work.

[DN7335]

Haha! This is amazing! No more messing about with stupid proxies etc!

(I'm writing this using my iPhone's internet..)

I can actually browse USING FIREFOX, I can use uTorrent, MSN, Google Desktop and pretty much all applications! It's just like it's connected to a normal Wifi.. and it actually gives instructions too on the iPhone screen! :

EDIT: It's funny that I'm downloading a Mac OS X ISO to my laptop using uTorrent using my iPhone Unlimited Data! :P

Gee, that won't attract any attention from AT&T. Prepare to be busted...

[toxicbomber]

Gee, that won't attract any attention from AT&T. Prepare to be busted...

Yeah. Have fun with your phone bill, man. :D

[TheConfuzed1]

*snip*

That's typical. The same thing that only takes 3 steps on the Mac, takes 11 in XP! lol

[thechidz]

just be careful kids:p

if you use too much data big brother might flag you

[Foamer]

I would personally recommend that you guys don't use ridiculous amounts of data, for it will surely throw up red flags at AT&T. I would stay away from torrents, streaming large video files, etc...


I have been using it for a couple days so far, and it works great. speedtest.net gives me 1.6mb down, and 314kb up. I am forced to use it since I am visiting my parents in Flint, MI and they don't have internet, or any nearby wifi spots, and I absolutely needed to get work done on the iMac. If AT&T would offer a tethering plan, I would pay for it, but seeing as they don't, I am forced to do this.

I have run into a couple problems over the past couple days though. First, occasionally it takes several tries to get the phone to connect to my iMac. Secondly, after using PDAnet for a while (45 minutes or so) I either get the recharge beep (that you get when you plug the phone into a charger), or the phone simply does a hard reset. The battery still shows good charge, so it isn't the battery draining (plus I keep it plugged into the wall charger while tethering), and the phone is not very warm either (unlike when I use GPS for long periods of time where it gets really hot).

I dont know what is causing the reset problem, but it seems to pop up when on a graphic intensive site, or a site with streaming videos (liveleak, youtube, etc)

[Bear Hunter]

Pretty cool... I have both PdaNet and iPhonemodem.de installed. Both work flawlessly for me.

[dieburnbot]

I installed this last night and it works perfectly. I remember reading the post that was downloading an ISO file and it made me cringe.

[TheCiscoKid]

Why are some people (myself included) having the problem where the iPhone won't let you connect to 3G service if wifi is enabled?

I'm using the 2.1 software and it seems it works for some people and not for others. Everytime I am connected to the ad-hoc network I can't connect to 3G or browse pages on mobile safari. As soon as I disable the wifi ad-hoc network, the phone kicks back to 3G. Any way around this?

iPhone 2.1 jail broken.

[neesh0]

sweet, now is a good reason to get a data plan from rogers

[PYR0M310N]

Much easier to set up than iphone modem was and it works with Adium too!

[shacky]

I have used Pdanet in the past with my Treo and I know that it's a great program, so I really want to install it on my iphone!

I am running a jailbroke 1.14. I install Cydia and I cant find Pdanet even by using the instructions from June Fabrics (It is as simple as launching Cydia and go to Manage->Sources->ModMyi, then scroll down to PdaNet and install.)

Am I just out of luck until I update my firmware to 2.x?

[NeoMayhem]

EDIT: It's funny that I'm downloading a Mac OS X ISO to my laptop using uTorrent using my iPhone Unlimited Data! :P

Tell us how long your battery lasts when doing this!

[peoe2]

I've tried NetShare, internet sharing via USB using Proxifier, and PdaNet. I must say PdaNet is the best and easiest to configure with Windows and Mac. However it drains the phone battery like crazy even with the wall charger connected.

I did an experiment today with the battery fully empty, I charged it to 20% then started PdaNet, it drained the battery in 15min and shut the phone off even with wall charger connected. Then fully charged the battery, left wall charger on and started PdaNet, within 30min I was half way through the battery. So while this solution is nice, it doesn't allow you to use it for hours even when charging the phone. Web surfing consisted of just going on regular web sites, no video or downloading. I get 5 bars and 3G where I did the test. I noticed that the screen turns black but PdaNet continues to work so I can't blame it on the screen for draining the battery.

BTW I used the wall charger to provide the phone with a stronger charging current than with USB and see if charging that way would allow it to at least maintain battery at the same level, it didn't.

[thechidz]

hey i searchged for pdanet in cydia and couldnt find it. where is it?

[TheConfuzed1]

I believe that you need to be on 2.1 for PdaNet. If you can't find it, you may need to update your software.

[thechidz]

I believe that you need to be on 2.1 for PdaNet. If you can't find it, you may need to update your software.

do you mean the cydia software or the iphone?

[jcde7ago]

I've tried NetShare, internet sharing via USB using Proxifier, and PdaNet. I must say PdaNet is the best and easiest to configure with Windows and Mac. However it drains the phone battery like crazy even with the wall charger connected.

I did an experiment today with the battery fully empty, I charged it to 20% then started PdaNet, it drained the battery in 15min and shut the phone off even with wall charger connected. Then fully charged the battery, left wall charger on and started PdaNet, within 30min I was half way through the battery. So while this solution is nice, it doesn't allow you to use it for hours even when charging the phone. Web surfing consisted of just going on regular web sites, no video or downloading. I get 5 bars and 3G where I did the test. I noticed that the screen turns black but PdaNet continues to work so I can't blame it on the screen for draining the battery.

BTW I used the wall charger to provide the phone with a stronger charging current than with USB and see if charging that way would allow it to at least maintain battery at the same level, it didn't.

This makes perfect sense because, not only is your phone having to maintain connection with your cellular data network while it's using it, but it also has the wifi radio on, to maintain connection with your computer. Couple that with the phone processor actively running PdaNet and handling the connection between it and your computer as a wireless router, and of course you can expect this to use more battery than what you are putting in. There probably will never be a perfect tethering solution that does not drain the battery at a fast rate (You can still get around 2.5 - 3 hours of tethered surfing, however), but PdaNet sure seems like the closest thing to that.

[peoe2]

This makes perfect sense because, not only is your phone having to maintain connection with your cellular data network while it's using it, but it also has the wifi radio on, to maintain connection with your computer. Couple that with the phone processor actively running PdaNet and handling the connection between it and your computer as a wireless router, and of course you can expect this to use more battery than what you are putting in.

NetShare does the same thing and runs a proxy on top of that (if I'm correct) but yet doesn't drain the battery as much as PdaNet does.

[mikefromokc]

So I have installed PDANet on my iPhone and it is working great! But I do have one problem with the connection so far. I am currently on an unlocked 1G 8GB iPhone on the T-Mobile network and when I connect to the iPhone on my PC and try to connect my Cisco VPN software I am unable to connect.

Don't get me wrong. I love being able to get Internet access through my cell phone data plan but it is very important that I can VPN into work. Has anybody else ran into this problem?


Thanks,

Mike

[jcde7ago]

NetShare does the same thing and runs a proxy on top of that (if I'm correct) but yet doesn't drain the battery as much as PdaNet does.

I beg to differ. I made sure my phone was fully charged and was plugged in via wall outlet. I ran NetShare for two hours, while my phone was plugged in...the entire time, my phone battery indicator said it was fully charged...however, once i unplugged my phone from the outlet, it had actually drained the battery to less than 20%.

ANY amount of tethering is going to drain the battery. And no, NetShare does not do the same thing...all it does is run a proxy server, PdaNet turns your phone into a wireless router. You have to set up your internet browser to work through a proxy in order to use NetShare, as well as any other apps that need internet. If those programs don't support proxy, then they can't connect through NetShare. PdaNet is basically like having an aircard, and is worlds different (and above) NetShare.

[peoe2]

I ran NetShare for two hours, while my phone was plugged in...the entire time

With PdaNet it takes 30min to go from full battery to 50% with wall charger connected. That would mean 1h total with full battery and charger vs. 2h on NetShare as you reported, therefore PdaNet drains the battery more.

You've said things are obvious and disagreed, I'm fine with that. I hope you're above the 'let's argue with someone today' type of posts. I don't intent to offend you and I'm not interested in arguing. Please let's focus on sharing our experiences with these tools, sharing facts.

Have you used both NetShare and PdaNet and if yes I'll be interested in learning your comparison of both tools in terms of battery usage. I sure hope they're the same but that hasn't been my experience so far.

[Bear Hunter]

Anyone compare PdaNet with iPhonemodem.de in terms of battery drain?

[GeeYouEye]

Question: does it drain the battery if it's connected to a laptop instead of the wall? The microcharger is pretty small after all...

[ellsworth]

I'm with a couple others who can't find this app on Cydia.
I'm on a 2.1 1st Gen iphone and just upgraded the software and don't find it anywhere... Bummer.... any suggetions?


Edit....
Upgrade Cydia, restart, and let everything load up and it appears when you search for it. Good stuff.

[swanzoid]

... when I connect to the iPhone on my PC and try to connect my Cisco VPN software I am unable to connect.

Don't get me wrong. I love being able to get Internet access through my cell phone data plan but it is very important that I can VPN into work. Has anybody else ran into this problem?

I'm in the same boat, except I'm just trying to use the generic Microsoft VPN. When I'm not tethered I'm able to VPN using the built-in client on the iPhone, but I can't seem to get that to "pass through" when using PdaNet. Hoping there's a workaround somewhere to this...

[dustobub]

It runs in the background, totally amazing. Fantastic application. However, it does seem to drain battery fast like the above poster mentioned, I'll do some tests later.

Dustin

[InfoTime]

What about using the phone as a phone at the same time? Does this run in the background or does it behave like App Store apps?

[orrelse44]

I noticed their is an upgrade for it in cydia. Wonder what was fixed/tweaked?

[tehfrag]

I noticed their is an upgrade for it in cydia. Wonder what was fixed/tweaked?

I saw that one of the features includes a built in "Insomnia" mode, so that should help battery life while running.

[dieburnbot]

I'm in the same boat, except I'm just trying to use the generic Microsoft VPN. When I'm not tethered I'm able to VPN using the built-in client on the iPhone, but I can't seem to get that to "pass through" when using PdaNet. Hoping there's a workaround somewhere to this...


This is what it says on the PdaNet FAQ on their website:

Even though the current version does not support VPN (will be fixed later) from the computer, you can still use VPN as long as you are able to setup a VPN connection on iPhone after the PdaNet connection is established. All computer traffics will then go through the VPN connection.

You can read the full FAQ here: http://junefabrics.com/iphone/faq.php

It also says to try this to get greater battery life:

After the connection is established and working, bring PdaNet to the foreground and turn the phone off. This will not drop your connection but will reduce battery usage.

[speedracer3000]

sweet!
that took less than a couple of seconds to setup, easier than NetShare, and works well on all the apps. No more paying for hotel WiFi!

[domness]

Yes, it works so much better now! And the icon is now an actually iPhone App icon :) No more leaving it on the last page due to it's ugly icon.

The insomnia function works well and everythings is going well :)

[LSUtigers03]

What will flag your account in terms of data? Is it a set threshold AT&T uses and if you go over that set amount then your account is flagged or will it be flagged if one month you use 100mb and the next you use 2gb?

[thechidz]

What will flag your account in terms of data? Is it a set threshold AT&T uses and if you go over that set amount then your account is flagged or will it be flagged if one month you use 100mb and the next you use 2gb?

they put a soft cap at 5 gb month

[LSUtigers03]

they put a soft cap at 5 gb month

Ok I had heard that there was a cap I just wasn't sure if there was a big change from one month to the next if that would flag the account.

I've only been able to get this to work once. Now I create the network on my Mac and connect to that network on my iphone but when I open pdanet nothing happens. It shows that I'm connected to 3g instead of the network I created.

[criscris]

Im wondering about usage: Can anyone near my location pull up a list of wifi connections, see mine and connect to it?

[jcde7ago]

Im wondering about usage: Can anyone near my location pull up a list of wifi connections, see mine and connect to it?

Yes, anyone can connect to your ad-hoc if you don't set it up with any encryption.

[criscris]

Yes, anyone can connect to your ad-hoc if you don't set it up with any encryption.

Is that Wep security tab when creating an adhoc?

Also, earlier I did connect but followed a long list of instructions off another site. I was told to use iPhone tunnel suite, turn off ssh within bigbossprefs, then on, connect to my adhoc within iPhone settings and the wifi tab, open safari within iPhone then close that. VERY confusing, I know, but somehow it worked. Now that I've started over from scratch using the instructions for XP early in this thread neither firefox or Internet explored will open any webpage on my laptop. It times out.
Also on the topic of downloading while tethering, why are none of my bittorrents downloading? Utorrent, fir example, just sits there and the torrents don't continue downloading like they would if I had a normal cable connection at home plugged into the computer.

Can anyone help?? I'm incredibly frustrated that I can't tether now. The instructions starting this thread don't even mention ssh, or writing down your ip before you begin etc. What the he'll am I doing wrong??

HELP!!!!!!

[swanzoid]

This is what it says on the PdaNet FAQ on their website:

Even though the current version does not support VPN (will be fixed later) from the computer, you can still use VPN as long as you are able to setup a VPN connection on iPhone after the PdaNet connection is established. All computer traffics will then go through the VPN connection.


Yes, I tried that, but whenever I connect to the VPN on the iPhone it seems to drop the PdaNet session. I can't get reconnected to the internet through PdaNet again until I kill the VPN session.

Has anyone else had success with this VPN problem?

[navigates]

Yes, I tried that, but whenever I connect to the VPN on the iPhone it seems to drop the PdaNet session. I can't get reconnected to the internet through PdaNet again until I kill the VPN session.

Has anyone else had success with this VPN problem?

In my case the VPN does not even connect. Its IPSec Cisco VPN.
Also even when connected to the Wall charger the iPhone battery drain is significant when tethering. I don't think this is the case when using 3proxy or openssh. The iphone charges with the cable connected.

[criscris]

Ok. Question: A friend of mine was talking about tethering today and confused me even more. When you tether, and do NOT download anything other than browse or check YouTube, does your provider know? One would assume that browsing only, you're unlikely to go over your data plan, unless of course you do it all day, everyday.

Can someone explain it to us lesser folks? LOL.

Are pages viewed on your laptop different than safari's on the iPhone? Meaning they use more bandwith? No torrents. No downloads. Will us type of tether users still gonna be f'ed??

[lavrishevo]

Ok. Question: A friend of mine was talking about tethering today and confused me even more. When you tether, and do NOT download anything other than browse or check YouTube, does your provider know? One would assume that browsing only, you're unlikely to go over your data plan, unless of course you do it all day, everyday.

Can someone explain it to us lesser folks? LOL.

Are pages viewed on your laptop different than safari's on the iPhone? Meaning they use more bandwith? No torrents. No downloads. Will us type of tether users still gonna be f'ed??

It's all about data usage. Just keep track of how much you are using through the AT&T site and don't abuse it. No the can not tell what sites you are looking at. Again, you will be fine just don't abuse it.

[InfoTime]

I believe the packets could be inspected to see the MAC address of your computer coming through. That will tell the network operator that all of your traffic is not originating on the iPhone.

[jcde7ago]

I believe the packets could be inspected to see the MAC address of your computer coming through. That will tell the network operator that all of your traffic is not originating on the iPhone.

This man speaks the truth. ;)

However, to initiate such action on AT&T's part would require some kind of red flag from one of it's customers....in this case, as long as you stay under the soft cap,i believe you should be fine. Just don't go cancelling your dsl/cable landline at home and replace it with this tethering option. :D

[navigates]

This man speaks the truth. ;)

However, to initiate such action on AT&T's part would require some kind of red flag from one of it's customers....in this case, as long as you stay under the soft cap,i believe you should be fine. Just don't go cancelling your dsl/cable landline at home and replace it with this tethering option. :D

Guys; If you have a background then speak! Please DO NOT provide false information here.

Facts:

A) Network Packets are transmitted from the Network Card (iphone mac) to the server.
B) Mac Address can be captured to the iPhone but not Att

The concept is similar to a home router. Internet providers usually lock to a mac address which is a mac address to the router.

This man speaks the truth. ;)

[jcde7ago]

Guys; If you have a background then speak! Please DO NOT provide false information here.

Facts:

A) Network Packets are transmitted from the Network Card (iphone mac) to the server.
B) Mac Address can be captured to the iPhone but not Att

The concept is similar to a home router. Internet providers usually lock to a mac address which is a mac address to the router.

This man speaks the truth. ;)

Thanks for the insight, i had read many, many times that ATT could theoretically see that traffic wasn't originating from the iPhone somehow...but if it's not the case, then all the better as long as you stay under 5 GB i suppose :)

[LSUtigers03]

Even if you stay under 5gb but your data usage increases significantly from one month to the next will this cause AT&T to flag your account?

[swanzoid]

Yes, I tried that, but whenever I connect to the VPN on the iPhone it seems to drop the PdaNet session. I can't get reconnected to the internet through PdaNet again until I kill the VPN session.

Has anyone else had success with this VPN problem?

Just a follow-up post here... I was finally able to connect to another VPN via PdaNet and the iPhone today - I just connected first to PdaNet, then I activated the VPN on the iPhone and it worked. BUT, the VPN site I really need to connect to refuses to work when following this exact same connection methodology (both sites are using the standard Microsoft VPN). So I'm guessing it must have something to do with differing VPN server side policies - perhaps the site that doesn't work is not liking the convoluted route I'm taking to get to it when using the iPhone's VPN. Whatever it is, it's kind of clunky.

I had a brief back-and-forth with JuneFabrics on this. They indicated a future release of PdaNet will support using the VPN client on the PC, thus taking the iPhone VPN out of the loop. This should ultimately fix the problem. In the meantime, at least I can do basic web surfing and emailing via Outlook on my laptop when I'm out and about, which is certainly better than nothing!

[TheConfuzed1]

do you mean the cydia software or the iphone?

iPhone OS 2.1.

Once you are on 2.1, you will need to update Cydia, before you will find any apps that require 2.1, in order to use them.

[criscris]

Guys; If you have a background then speak! Please DO NOT provide false information here.

Facts:

A) Network Packets are transmitted from the Network Card (iphone mac) to the server.
B) Mac Address can be captured to the iPhone but not Att

The concept is similar to a home router. Internet providers usually lock to a mac address which is a mac address to the router.

This man speaks the truth. ;)
I'm not trying to download torrents or anything!! [Although in my excitement of first connecting, I DID experiment for a quick minute on utorrent but couldn't get any torrents started. :p]

Thanks for the clarification!! :)

[peoe2]

I noticed their is an upgrade for it in cydia. Wonder what was fixed/tweaked?

With the update the battery remains at the same level when wall charger is connected. I was able to surf on a laptop through the iphone (5 bars, 3G) a good 5h and battery remained at the same level.
Also it seems like PdaNet is more reliable now, with the older version it would somewhat disconnect/slowdown after 40-50min of usage. New version doesn't do that.

[jcde7ago]

FYI all you PdaNet users, ANOTHER update is up on Cydia as of tonight, version 1.31...it is being noted in the changelog as a CRITICAL update that all users of PdaNet are urged to download, as it addresses memory leak problems and gives even better battery life. Sounds good to me! :)

Changelog:

Version 1.31

* Fix a critical memory leak that eventually freezes the iPhone or makes it unstable after long period of downloads. All PdaNet users are strongly recommended to upgrade to this build. This should also reduce battery usage.
* Fix a minor IP address assignment problem.
* Fix a resource leak in ping protocol.
* WiFi router switch status will now be saved even with a reboot.

Version 1.30

* Have Insomnia feature built-in when PdaNet is in the foreground. Once a connection is active, you can now turn off the screen and your connection will not drop.
* Remove Proximity Sensing since it is no longer needed with the above feature.
* Fix the installer package so that rebooting is no longer needed after installation.
* Add a help button.
* Fix incorrect message that says WiFi disabled.
* Fix incorrect message that says Cell phone data service not available.
* Fix the damn icon!
* Fix a rare DHCP issue.

[peoe2]

I've been using v1.31 all day today, so far for 4.5h. Preliminary observations:

- Battery usage is night and day, now I can actually charge the battery with the wall charger meaning the charger won't just maintain the battery at its current level but charge it while using PdaNet.
- I did notice quite a few disconnects which I didn't experience with v1.30. I don't know yet if it's a problem or just unusual circumstances today. What happens is that I either lose the wireless connection or keep the wireless connection but lose internet. I then have to wake up the phone and close/re-open PdaNet.

I'm doing my tests with the exact same setup as when I had v1.30 (same distance from phone to computer, same building, same reception level...).

[zhenya]

Guys, I am having a serious issue with PDANet, and I need to find out if anyone else is having the issue. PDANet is conflicting with the DHCP server on my Windows Server 2003, and stopping the DHCP service on that server!

I am the sys admin for the company I work at. I installed and used PDANet last weekend. I came into work on Monday morning (with my iphone, that connects to our wifi) and I immediately got a notification that the DHCP service on our server had stopped. As I've been fighting other issues recently, this took me quite some time to narrow down to the iphone, but I can now definitively say that it is the problem. The thing is, PDANet should have been off - I wasn't using it at the time. Today, I downloaded the updated version, and again, I wasn't using it, but as soon as it was installed, my DHCP server stopped again! I restarted the phone, and that appears to stop the PDANet dhcp service, but this is a serious problem. It's one thing for me, as the sysadmin, to have to deal with this behavior coming from my own phone, but I can guarantee there are going to be a lot of unhappy admins out there if this starts happening widely. Given that the default behavior of a Windows Server 2003 DHCP server is to shutdown if it detects a competing DHCP server on the same subnet, I suspect it will.

[jcde7ago]

Guys, I am having a serious issue with PDANet, and I need to find out if anyone else is having the issue. PDANet is conflicting with the DHCP server on my Windows Server 2003, and stopping the DHCP service on that server!

I am the sys admin for the company I work at. I installed and used PDANet last weekend. I came into work on Monday morning (with my iphone, that connects to our wifi) and I immediately got a notification that the DHCP service on our server had stopped. As I've been fighting other issues recently, this took me quite some time to narrow down to the iphone, but I can now definitively say that it is the problem. The thing is, PDANet should have been off - I wasn't using it at the time. Today, I downloaded the updated version, and again, I wasn't using it, but as soon as it was installed, my DHCP server stopped again! I restarted the phone, and that appears to stop the PDANet dhcp service, but this is a serious problem. It's one thing for me, as the sysadmin, to have to deal with this behavior coming from my own phone, but I can guarantee there are going to be a lot of unhappy admins out there if this starts happening widely. Given that the default behavior of a Windows Server 2003 DHCP server is to shutdown if it detects a competing DHCP server on the same subnet, I suspect it will.

First thing to do would be to give a shoutout to the devs of PdaNet:
http://junefabrics.com/

Then, anytime you reboot your phone, even if you do not open PdaNet, the daemon seems to run in the background, so make sure you open PdaNet and switch the Wi-Fi router status to "Off." Version 1.31 fixes this issue and now remembers what status you set it to upon last exit, so if you turn "off" the Wi-Fi router, it will keep it off, even on subsequent reboots. Just turn it back on accordingly when it's time to tether. Hope that helps!

[zhenya]

First thing to do would be to give a shoutout to the devs of PdaNet:
http://junefabrics.com/

Then, anytime you reboot your phone, even if you do not open PdaNet, the daemon seems to run in the background, so make sure you open PdaNet and switch the Wi-Fi router status to "Off." Version 1.31 fixes this issue and now remembers what status you set it to upon last exit, so if you turn "off" the Wi-Fi router, it will keep it off, even on subsequent reboots. Just turn it back on accordingly when it's time to tether. Hope that helps!

Thanks. I have sent them a report of my findings as well.

So you are saying that the dhcp server daemon runs in the background at all times, even when pdanet is not in use? Is that by design?

[jcde7ago]

Thanks. I have sent them a report of my findings as well.

So you are saying that the dhcp server daemon runs in the background at all times, even when pdanet is not in use? Is that by design?

It seems that way, as it has been observed to begin running even as the iphone is just starting up, before the PdaNet icon itself is even pressed. But this was before version 1.31, in which the wifi router would default to "On" upon re-boot. I would imagine this is probably by design. Again, turning the Wireless router option "off" and then re-booting should fix this issue as long as you have 1.31...but you should double check and try it out on your network to confirm :)

[navigates]

Is there a way to have the iphone charge while using pdanet? In my case the battery drains even when its plugged in while using pdanet.

2 things if PDAnet can solve.

* Battery Problem. Should charge when plugged in while connected.
* VPN Connection

[jcde7ago]

Is there a way to have the iphone charge while using pdanet? In my case the battery drains even when its plugged in while using pdanet.

2 things if PDAnet can solve.

* Battery Problem. Should charge when plugged in while connected.
* VPN Connection

Yes, version 1.30 had a built in insomnia mode, allowing it to run while the screen is shut off, and version 1.31 gave improved battery life, so that you can now actually CHARGE the battery, as long as you have it plugged into a wall outlet + you have your iphone screen shut off. This, at least, from my personal experience.

[08mxkfx]

Could I connect an iPod touch to my iphone? So my sister can browse the internet on her IPT and i can on my iPhone when we are on the road?

[TheConfuzed1]

Could I connect an iPod touch to my iphone? So my sister can browse the internet on her IPT and i can on my iPhone when we are on the road?

Whoa... I think you just blew my mind! Try it and let us know. :)

[Whorehay]

Could I connect an iPod touch to my iphone? So my sister can browse the internet on her IPT and i can on my iPhone when we are on the road?

I don't think you can create a network on the iPhone or the iPT.

[NATO]

As I've mentioned in another thread, it is strictly against O2's Terms and Conditions to use the iPhone like this - if they catch you then you could be facing a huge bill (£2.00 or so per Megabyte!).

I've read through the thread and the general concensus seems to be that there's no way the mobile operator (O2 etc) can actually detect that you're using a laptop to browse rather than the iPhone itself, is this absolutely correct? As long as I don't take the piss, is there any way O2 can know?

[LSUtigers03]

I asked this in another thread but I got no response so i thought I would ask here.

After about ten minutes the connection doesn't work anymore and my phone freezes. My firmware is 2.1 and I'm using version 1.31 of pdanet. Is there anything I can do to fix this?

[ntrigue]

This application is BRILLIANT! It truly turns your iPhone into a router. Previous applications didn't render ALL websites properly. PDANet is the end-all solution.

[InfoTime]

Could I connect an iPod touch to my iphone? So my sister can browse the internet on her IPT and i can on my iPhone when we are on the road?

I don't think you can create a network on the iPhone or the iPT.I don't see any reason why this wouldn't work. The iPod Touch would work just like a laptop computer or any other computer connecting to the wireless network created by PDANet and the iPhone.

[InfoTime]

I've read through the thread and the general concensus seems to be that there's no way the mobile operator (O2 etc) can actually detect that you're using a laptop to browse rather than the iPhone itself, is this absolutely correct? As long as I don't take the piss, is there any way O2 can know?I've watched this kind of technology for several years. I seem to recall that many experts said that a network operator could distinguish between the two. That's not what is being said here, for the most part. I'd check around some more if you want to be certain.

[08mxkfx]

I've watched this kind of technology for several years. I seem to recall that many experts said that a network operator could distinguish between the two. That's not what is being said here, for the most part. I'd check around some more if you want to be certain.

The thing is that there are so many customer that they dont check every person internet usage. The only start looking into your activity once go past the 5GB soft cap that ATT use. Aslong as you stay below 5GB a month you wont raise any red flags.

[TheConfuzed1]

I don't see any reason why this wouldn't work. The iPod Touch would work just like a laptop computer or any other computer connecting to the wireless network created by PDANet and the iPhone.

The trick though, is how to create the network.

I wonder what it would take to develop an app that does that...

[InfoTime]

The trick though, is how to create the network.

I wonder what it would take to develop an app that does that...:o
I had assumed that it made your iPhone look like a traditional access point: This version is called "PdaNet WiFi Router"
I didn't see where it said you had to create an ad-hoc network. That would make it tricky for an iPod Touch then.

[jcde7ago]

FYI, there has been another update to PdaNet, now it's up to version 1.32. After some testing, i have experienced more stable performance, and no crashing whatsoever....update's out on Cydia. :cool:

Changelog for version 1.32:

Version 1.32

* Fix another major memory leak that could cause some iPhones to hang after long period of PdaNet usage.
* Fix a CPU performance issue that will cause unnecessary battery drainage and over-heating.
* Fix an IP address assignment error when the iPhone switches from an existing router.
* Fix conflict with existing DHCP server in your network.
* Assign "my.iPhone" or simply "my.i" to the phone so that you can ssh or scp to your iPhone without looking up the IP.
* This would be our first stable build. All existing PdaNet users should upgrade to this build.

[ellsworth]

sweet... just updated

[TSloper]

Can anyone with Vista and 1.32 see if downloads lock up on them? Every time I try to download a file (multi-megabyte files) with IE it locks up the download but I can still browse other sites.

Thanks,
Tim

[thor79]

Messed with it for a while after discovering it today...had some trouble getting it to work but finally did. Great App. I assumed it made the phone act as an access point. I didn't realize that essentially you setup the ad-hoc network...then start up the wifi router and have the laptop get the dhcp info from the iphone. After I figured that out setup was easy for me.

This was the app that made my dad decide to finally jailbreak his phone. This will allow him to ditch the Aircard he has with AT&T. Just in time since he's going to northern Wisconsin in an RV trip...and won't have access to any wifi while in the RV. He's assuming he'll have a cell signal with his phone...we'll see how that goes.

[thechidz]

I cant find this in cydia??? do I need to do something else? also, my phone is not unlocked. what am I doing wrong?

[ilfn143]

in cydia -> manage -> setting -> developer, then search for pdanet

[thor79]

I cant find this in cydia??? do I need to do something else? also, my phone is not unlocked. what am I doing wrong?

search for pdanet...it'll come up after "pda", it's hosted by modmyi.com (so that should be one of your sources under manage).

Developer level is not needed to get access to it...hacker level found it for me.

[thechidz]

oh wow I found it, thanks:) dont know why I coudnt before

[thechidz]

haha! it works. thanks. anyone wanna buy a sierra usb 881 laptop conect card;)

[kcharlton]

Can anyone with Vista and 1.32 see if downloads lock up on them? Every time I try to download a file (multi-megabyte files) with IE it locks up the download but I can still browse other sites.

Thanks,
Tim

I don't know if this is a common problem or not but it is a major issue.

I am experiencing the exact same thing under OS X. Nothing large works, speedtests don't work, Safari downloading doesn't work, YouTube videos don't work... What is going on here?

Anyone else having this issue too? Anyone know how to solve it?

[thechidz]

nm found it again

[zhenya]

I've been using PdaNet extensively for the first time over the last couple of days, and have found that even version 1.32 is not particularly stable over a long period of time. Every hour or so it seems to lock up, and I've had to restart the phone a number of times to get it working again. It seems especially prone to locking after sitting relatively idle for a long period of time.

I'd also like to know when we can expect to see a new, vpn capable version (and what exactly is preventing this version from working now - even my normally firewall proof OpenVPN connection is being thwarted). Connecting to my vpn on the phone after connecting to PdaNet does not work for me either. The vpn connects fine, but I cannot access any network resources (Internet access works).

[ilfn143]

wish i could charge my iphone and using pdanet at the same time.

[peoe2]

Version 1.33 is out. It fixes connection hangs on downloads and streaming.

[LSUtigers03]

wish i could charge my iphone and using pdanet at the same time.

You can just plug it up with a wall charger and it'll charge.

[ellsworth]

Version 1.33 is out. It fixes connection hangs on downloads and streaming.

I don't think I've seen an app get updated more frequently than this here little app. Amazing.

[TSloper]

1.33 corrected the issue I had with downloading files, etc.

I have no problem with the constant updates. It takes 30 seconds to update and each time it keeps getting better.

Tim

[ellsworth]

1.33 corrected the issue I had with downloading files, etc.

I have no problem with the constant updates. It takes 30 seconds to update and each time it keeps getting better.

Tim

For sure. No complaints here... just amazed and stoked

[orrelse44]

Have a problem, need some advice:

I have PDAnet on my phone, it works great. Awesome app.

However, when I unplug it and try to connect back to my home wireless router (or any wi-fi) it gives me errors and says it cannot connect. I go back into settings and make sure it isn't ad-hoc anymore and it still will not connect. Do I have to set up a totally separate connection for an ad-hoc so the regular default wi-fi router connection doesn't get screwed up? And how do I do this?

For the life of me I cannot figure this out.

[Sparky9292]

The thing is that there are so many customer that they dont check every person internet usage. The only start looking into your activity once go past the 5GB soft cap that ATT use. As long as you stay below 5GB a month you wont raise any red flags.

Where did you get this 5GB soft cap info? :confused: I run a legitimate iPhone app called Pandora and hit the 5GB mark in a double of days easy.

I did a quick calculation assuming 128kbit compression, an mp3 is about 4MB, and a song is around 4minutes long. I came up with 1.8GB per day if you left the Pandora iPhone app streaming all 24 hours. So after three days, you've already hit this cap.

I'd say that after at least two weeks, MANY people hit this cap on their iphones (only AT&T would know this). In addition there are TONS of multiplayer games, YouTube, bandwidth hogging sites, on the iPhone that can destroy this 5GB cap

I call BS and FUD on that. .. respectfully :D

[jcde7ago]

Where did you get this 5GB soft cap info? :confused: I run a legitimate iPhone app called Pandora and hit the 5GB mark in a double of days easy.

I did a quick calculation assuming 128kbit compression, an mp3 is about 4MB, and a song is around 4minutes long. I came up with 1.8GB per day if you left the Pandora iPhone app streaming all 24 hours. So after three days, you've already hit this cap.

I'd say that after at least two weeks, MANY people hit this cap on their iphones (only AT&T would know this). In addition there are TONS of multiplayer games, YouTube, bandwidth hogging sites, on the iPhone that can destroy this 5GB cap

I call BS and FUD on that. .. respectfully :D

Unfortunately, it is NOT BS:

http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/legal/plan-terms.jsp

[omgshesaboy]

Unfortunately, it is NOT BS:

http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/legal/plan-terms.jsp

PDA/BLACKBERRY PLANS WITH TETHERING

as of right now the iphone doesnt have tethering allowing the unlimited bandwith we pay for :)

[istinkles]

Haha! This is amazing! No more messing about with stupid proxies etc!

(I'm writing this using my iPhone's internet..)

I can actually browse USING FIREFOX, I can use uTorrent, MSN, Google Desktop and pretty much all applications! It's just like it's connected to a normal Wifi.. and it actually gives instructions too on the iPhone screen! :

EDIT: It's funny that I'm downloading a Mac OS X ISO to my laptop using uTorrent using my iPhone Unlimited Data! :P

I'd be careful with utorrent if i were you. if you are constantly going over 5GBs, AT&T will get suspicious. just use the tether for regular browsing.

[omgshesaboy]

I'd be careful with utorrent if i were you. if you are constantly going over 5GBs, AT&T will get suspicious. just use the tether for regular browsing.

i was curious if i were to download vista (which i have a liscense for) via torrent because i left my disk at home and am at college and am getting a new laptop in the mail tommorow. If i do this one time just because i cant obviously use my schools internet will att charge me?

[TBi]

i was curious if i were to download vista (which i have a liscense for) via torrent because i left my disk at home and am at college and am getting a new laptop in the mail tommorow. If i do this one time just because i cant obviously use my schools internet will att charge me?

Borrow the disk off someone else on campus. It must be available somewhere. Try the student office. Maybe the IT department will have a copy?

[Dr. Astronaut]

I'm from Toronto, and I've been using PdaNet for over a month now on my newly jailbroken iPhone (running 2.1) tethered to my macbook.

Literally easier then setting up a network at home.

-create a network on my mac (right click airport, create network)
(I always call mine "iPhone Modem")

-select network on iPhone in wifi settings

-open PdaNet and your surfing!

In Toronto I did a speedtest and run around 1.5Mbps

IMPORTANT

I asked rogers in the store when I bought the iphone if tethering is legal, they said yes, the employee called his manager to confirm that this was true. Still skeptical, I recieved a call from rogers to see how I was liking the service and asked again, they told me it was perfectly legal. I had them transfer me to a supervisor and they confirmed this a forth time. TETHERING IS LEGAL IN CANADA ON THE ROGERS NETWORK

CBC ran an article stating this last summer, here's the link.
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/08/28/tech-iphone.html

unbelievable as it may seem, I got them to also confirm that my tethering usage is unlimited with my next 3 months of free voice and data that comes with my new plan.

With this kind of support from rogers, its no wonder apple is releasing the iPhone 3.0 OS with tethering standard.

sorry to babble on, this is my first post, cheers.

[ellsworth]

good to hear :)

[HiFiGuy528]

Has anyone gotten charged more fees or noticed from ATT?

[lavrishevo]

Has anyone gotten charged more fees or noticed from ATT?

As of now, if you stay under the 5gb cap per month you should be fine. I have yet to hear of anyone complaining about being charged extra.

[HiFiGuy528]

Am I worng for saying this? Unless you are downloading stuff (PDF, apps, etc.), web browsing alone should not exceed 5gb.

[BeSweeet]

I haven't. I use it quite often to check my email and some other simple websites. Staying under 5GB of monthly download usage will keep you safe.

[ihappy]

Does anyone know in my wireless network connection box, I don't have the "Wireless Networks" tab?

I have an XP acer netbook.

I can connect to pdanet just fine using the ubs cable but I can't connect wirelessly.