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Daremo
Sep 29, 2008, 08:38 PM
i'm with you however, i think that you are forgetting one very important variable. people will pay what they believe it's worth given their notion of the perceived value according to their "situation"
you gave an example of a music band offering music online and allowing fans to pay whatever, but i wouldn't be surprised if that band's "market" base consisted of "kids" who don't have a whole lot of money. it's all about expectations and those expectations differ depending on the group in question.
i was recently in philadelphia and my girlfriend and i went to the philadelphia museum and they have a system where on that day you could "voluntarily" pay whatever you wanted for admission, you could even pay nothing if you wanted to and still get a ticket. out of curiosity i hung out at the ticket center to see what would happen. almost everyone who got a ticket paid the regular ticket price. however, keep in mind the people going in were adults (with the expectation that they were going to pay full admission anyway) and people with an appreciation for the arts and a desire to support the arts. in fact i didn't observe anyone who didn't pay anything.
the problem with the app store and the iphone user base, is that you have a lot of "kids" or non kids who feel that anything that isn't a game should be "free". that's the expectation that they have. unfortunately, they're also more vocal than all others. so you hear their complaints more often
It's attitude as well. Radio Head stated that a lot of dirtbags would send them a penny, or 2 cents... That's just being a jagoff, any way you slice it. As far as I'm concerned, if someone has to complain about an app being .99, you shouldn't own a cell phone, let alone an iPhone. I do understand that $16 is a premium price, but there ARE free alternatives. The problem is, people want ALL the features that the premium app has, included in the free versions. I'm very happy the review system now only allows for people to comment who actually paid for the app.
macbookairman
Sep 29, 2008, 08:42 PM
I've noticed many of you mentioning push email with yahoo. I have a yahoo mail account, and didn't know it had push. Do you have to have yahoo mail plus for that? Currently my iPod Touch 2G with my yahoo mail account only gives me an option of manual and fetch (i use 15 minutes), whereas my MobileMe account has the option of push.
okrelayer
Sep 29, 2008, 08:52 PM
hmm. settings/fetch new data and set it to push.
then go to email settings and manually set your yahoo account to push.. i assume?
I hope that helps. not sure why its acting up. I dont have any yahoo plus or whatnot
macbookairman
Sep 29, 2008, 08:54 PM
hmm. settings/fetch new data and set it to push.
then go to email settings and manually set your yahoo account to push.. i assume?
I hope that helps. not sure why its acting up. I dont have any yahoo plus or whatnot
i have my phone set to fetch new date with push. but when i go to the yahoo account settings, there is only a manual and fetch option...
ryanwarsaw
Sep 29, 2008, 09:38 PM
Put your Yahoo account into mail and then go into settings. Look for beejive sttings, under beejive settings turn push email alert on and enter the Yahoo account you want to use.
macbookairman
Sep 29, 2008, 09:41 PM
ok thanks. i'll give that a try.
chris3g
Sep 29, 2008, 09:53 PM
that won't solve the problem if your phone is still set to fetch, you'll just get your beejive notifications at your set fetch interval.
The problem is probably in how you added your yahoo account to your phone originally. Did you add it to the phone by syncing with itunes or by manually entering the server information? Add a new mail account on your iphone and use the yahoo icon to set it up and you should have push as an option.
macbookairman
Sep 29, 2008, 10:03 PM
that won't solve the problem if your phone is still set to fetch, you'll just get your beejive notifications at your set fetch interval.
The problem is probably in how you added your yahoo account to your phone originally. Did you add it to the phone by syncing with itunes or by manually entering the server information? Add a new mail account on your iphone and use the yahoo icon to set it up and you should have push as an option.
wait a second....is the push for yahoo only available on the iPhone? Cause I have the iPod Touch 2G and I set my account up on my iPod Touch, and I didn't have that option.
Jayden0606
Sep 29, 2008, 10:03 PM
that won't solve the problem if your phone is still set to fetch, you'll just get your beejive notifications at your set fetch interval.
The problem is probably in how you added your yahoo account to your phone originally. Did you add it to the phone by syncing with itunes or by manually entering the server information? Add a new mail account on your iphone and use the yahoo icon to set it up and you should have push as an option.
To add to that, did you add ymail for yahoo? or the other .com for yahoo?
Jayden0606
Sep 29, 2008, 10:03 PM
Btw BeeJive is awesome. I don't even instant message, but this has started getting me to do so much more often.
macbookairman
Sep 29, 2008, 10:05 PM
To add to that, did you add ymail for yahoo? or the other .com for yahoo?
its a normal "username@yahoo.com" address, not one of the ymail or rocketdog ones.
chris3g
Sep 29, 2008, 10:13 PM
wait a second....is the push for yahoo only available on the iPhone? Cause I have the iPod Touch 2G and I set my account up on my iPod Touch, and I didn't have that option.
oh, yeah it won't work for you then, yahoo only pushes over the cellular network connection.
JonHimself
Sep 29, 2008, 10:35 PM
oh, yeah it won't work for you then, yahoo only pushes over the cellular network connection.
Is that true? I've been going nuts over getting it to work at home... if it's because I was on wifi I'm going to be piiiiissed ... haha
amemoryoncelost
Sep 29, 2008, 10:40 PM
not gonna read through 11 pages, but just hoping the free version online doesn't vanish... :(
chris3g
Sep 29, 2008, 10:51 PM
Is that true? I've been going nuts over getting it to work at home... if it's because I was on wifi I'm going to be piiiiissed ... haha
You can be connected to wifi but you need a cellular signal to receive push email. Mobileme push can work over wifi only, but only if you have the proper ports forwarded to your device, either manually or with upnp.
Lictor
Sep 30, 2008, 01:28 AM
They would certainly be able to support the costs of servers/royalties and what have you (that crossword puzzle app at $2.99 made like $16,000 one week, right?), so it's obvious their price has been chosen based on greed and I for one will not contribute.
You realise that $16,000 in one week is not really impressive for a company right? It's a very nice amount of money for a student or someone doing it as a side job. It's also very nice amount for someone self-employed. But for a real company, it is just what is expected to keep going while paying the salaries, the rent, the bills...
Since they don't exist only on the iPhone market, they're considering all their sources of income. Developing for a new platform costs money. That's an investment. If that investment doesn't bring as much money as a similar investment on another platform, it's just not worth it...
As for greed, well, surprise, it seems you just discovered a basic truth. Private business is all about greed, in the end, money is the only thing that matters. A private business that is not about greed usually ends belly up. If you don't want greed, you have to consider NGO, Fair Trade and the like...
Lictor
Sep 30, 2008, 01:36 AM
Regardless, I did some messing around and ss it turns out the issue is due to Categories - when I have it in a folder the icon is square, when I remove it and have it on the main springboard its rounded. Apparently (and I never noticed before because I didn't have any of the apps in Categories) but about half of my icons will show square if used in Categories - AND NONE ARE PIRATED.
That kind of make sense. On the iPhone, all the icons are squared, the developers are supposed to deliver them this way. The rounding and the "shine" rendition of the icon is handled on the fly by the iPhone. So, if you're messing up in some way with how the iPhone usually displays the icons, which I guess is what Categories do, they will appear in their original shape.
tongteh
Sep 30, 2008, 01:54 AM
wow, this application really worth every penny!! at first i kept on hesitating whether to buy this application, until a 10minutes ago i clicked on the purchased button!! i must say everything is looking very good now, the best IM application available in app store at the moment..
Digipimp
Sep 30, 2008, 01:56 AM
Is that true? I've been going nuts over getting it to work at home... if it's because I was on wifi I'm going to be piiiiissed ... haha
youre being told all the wrong information, yahoo mail pushes regardless of your connection, anyone that says otherwise doesnt know what they're talking about. you can receive it on wifi, edge, 3g or whatever, that doesnt even factor into it working.
yahoo mail pushes on its own, you need to just add the yahoo mail account through your iphone by selecting that its a yahoo mail account and it will work on its own after. theres not a setting that you need to adjust to make it happen, it just does.
okrelayer
Sep 30, 2008, 08:58 AM
and one day later .. its still awesome, waking up and knowing that my aim account has been on all day, and i dont have to worry about anything. Folks if your sitting on the fence, but you want a program to work as well as mobilechat should have worked, and you like chatting while your activly doing other things on your iPhone or iPod Touch get this app ASAP.
smeagol
Sep 30, 2008, 09:08 AM
I've noticed many of you mentioning push email with yahoo. I have a yahoo mail account, and didn't know it had push. Do you have to have yahoo mail plus for that? Currently my iPod Touch 2G with my yahoo mail account only gives me an option of manual and fetch (i use 15 minutes), whereas my MobileMe account has the option of push.
I believe yahoo push is only available for the iPhone, not sure about the touch. Also push doesn't really make a difference on the touch because there is no constant connection to the internet, you would only get push availability when you're in wifi range which kinda defeats the purpose. Maybe one day we'll have a touch with a data only constantly on connection for $20 or so per month.
michaelsviews
Sep 30, 2008, 09:15 AM
Watch Apple go and release something in 2.2 or later on around the holidays:apple::eek:
OneMike
Sep 30, 2008, 09:38 AM
After getting a chance to test it out pretty extensively I do somewhat change my mind. Interface is nice and it's very feature packed. Everything pretty much works as it should.
For being a first release in app store this is more solid then the other apps that have already had updates.
Still though the best feature to me is the ability to stay logged in for up to 24 hours. If iPhone apps could / ever can run in background I wonder how that would/would've affected price.
tongteh
Sep 30, 2008, 09:45 AM
is it just me or everyone else get the keyboard lag as well?? it's not just 1 time, but quite frequent.. using MSN live messenger on beejive
chris3g
Sep 30, 2008, 10:01 AM
youre being told all the wrong information, yahoo mail pushes regardless of your connection, anyone that says otherwise doesnt know what they're talking about. you can receive it on wifi, edge, 3g or whatever, that doesnt even factor into it working.
yahoo mail pushes on its own, you need to just add the yahoo mail account through your iphone by selecting that its a yahoo mail account and it will work on its own after. theres not a setting that you need to adjust to make it happen, it just does.
put your phone on airplane mode, then go back into the settings and turn wifi back on manually and connect to your network. People thinks it works on wifi because you are connected to wifi at the time, but the push still comes through over 3G or EDGE. Completely disable your cellular radios and you will see that it doesn't work, which not coincidently is the reason that push is not an option for yahoo on the iPod Touch.
jimb1969
Sep 30, 2008, 10:38 AM
but after using the competitors out there Palringo (which is ok) and the otehr pay one, I am CONVINCED this was well worth the money -VERY stable and well executed. 4 out of 4 stars.
Jim
Digipimp
Sep 30, 2008, 10:45 AM
put your phone on airplane mode, then go back into the settings and turn wifi back on manually and connect to your network. People thinks it works on wifi because you are connected to wifi at the time, but the push still comes through over 3G or EDGE. Completely disable your cellular radios and you will see that it doesn't work, which not coincidently is the reason that push is not an option for yahoo on the iPod Touch.
i dont know why it wouldnt work on wifi
mcnicks
Sep 30, 2008, 10:49 AM
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2625
On iPhone or iPod touch, push email is supported for the following email account types:
* MobileMe
* Microsoft Exchange
* Yahoo!
xsecretfiles
Sep 30, 2008, 10:54 AM
OK, I bought the app because all of you bunch of liars keep saying it supports push notification(s)
IT DOESN'T ATM
It says "coming soon", along so to many other basic features the app is nice and all, but it not complete and who knows if it ever will........
IMO is not worth it atm
All of you either
A. work for the developer
B. are a bunch of liars
slicecom
Sep 30, 2008, 10:58 AM
OK, I bought the app because all of you bunch of liars keep saying it supports push notification(s)
IT DOESN'T ATM
It says "coming soon", along so to many other basic features the app is nice and all, but it not complete and who knows if it ever will........
IMO is not worth it atm
All of you either
A. work for the developer
B. are a bunch of liars
You're right. We all conspired to get you to buy it. I'm glad to see it was a success! We got him everyone!!! Hahahahaha!!!
Manic Mouse
Sep 30, 2008, 11:00 AM
OK, I bought the app because all of you bunch of liars keep saying it supports push notification(s)
IT DOESN'T ATM
It says "coming soon", along so to many other basic features the app is nice and all, but it not complete and who knows if it ever will........
IMO is not worth it atm
All of you either
A. work for the developer
B. are a bunch of liars
Woah, calm down buddy.
ilfn143
Sep 30, 2008, 11:01 AM
You're right. We all conspired to get you to buy it. I'm glad to see it was a success! We got him everyone!!! Hahahahaha!!!
let's go celebrate :D
BikeRanger
Sep 30, 2008, 11:06 AM
Looks like it's past someone's bedtime.
Manic Mouse
Sep 30, 2008, 11:07 AM
Looks like it's past someone's bedtime.
And he's cranky, did you remember to burp him?
mrzeve
Sep 30, 2008, 11:09 AM
Am I the only one who isn't staying connected for the 24 hours?
EvanLugh
Sep 30, 2008, 11:22 AM
OK, I bought the app because all of you bunch of liars keep saying it supports push notification(s)
IT DOESN'T ATM
It says "coming soon", along so to many other basic features the app is nice and all, but it not complete and who knows if it ever will........
IMO is not worth it atm
All of you either
A. work for the developer
B. are a bunch of liars
Someone forgot their medication? Push notifications are implemented as emails which are sent to you to alert you. We're waiting on Apple..
Niiro13
Sep 30, 2008, 11:33 AM
OK, I bought the app because all of you bunch of liars keep saying it supports push notification(s)
IT DOESN'T ATM
It says "coming soon", along so to many other basic features the app is nice and all, but it not complete and who knows if it ever will........
IMO is not worth it atm
All of you either
A. work for the developer
B. are a bunch of liars
Or mayb you just epic fail at reading. Of course of doesn't support push sound/alert/badge notifications. That's Apples end. It supports push email. So it will send you an email if you got a message. For those with Yahoo, mobileme, of exhange, they'll get the email right away because those emails are push in the mail app.
mcnicks
Sep 30, 2008, 11:37 AM
That's nothing, xsecretfiles. They made me buy an iPhone 3G.
Daremo
Sep 30, 2008, 11:50 AM
OK, I bought the app because all of you bunch of liars keep saying it supports push notification(s)
IT DOESN'T ATM
It says "coming soon", along so to many other basic features the app is nice and all, but it not complete and who knows if it ever will........
IMO is not worth it atm
All of you either
A. work for the developer
B. are a bunch of liars
WE GOT YOU SUCKA! I have a bridge in NY I can sell you too! :D
Seriously, the Push is from email notification if you have a push account set up. Read the threads more carefully.
TopToffee
Sep 30, 2008, 11:55 AM
OK, I bought the app because all of you bunch of liars keep saying it supports push notification(s)
IT DOESN'T ATM
It says "coming soon", along so to many other basic features the app is nice and all, but it not complete and who knows if it ever will........
IMO is not worth it atm
All of you either
A. work for the developer
B. are a bunch of liars
this made me chuckle :D
macbookairman
Sep 30, 2008, 12:48 PM
Also push doesn't really make a difference on the touch because there is no constant connection to the internet, you would only get push availability when you're in wifi range which kinda defeats the purpose.
Actually, I get wi-fi everywhere I go. I take my iPod Touch everywhere...and the only places i go to are my school (which has wi-fi), my home (which has wi-fi) and some other local places with wi-fi. So i'm always connected except for when i'm driving around.
BikeRanger
Sep 30, 2008, 12:57 PM
Isn't it amazing how some people Just Don't Get It? Here's a cheat sheet for would-be whiners:
TO USE PUSH NOTIFICATION IN BEEJIVE:
You must have a push-capable email account (MobileMe or Exchange)
That account must be set up and configured correctly on your iPhone, with push enabled
Beejive must be installed and configured to push to the capable email account
You must be within Beejive's session timeout window, which is up to 24 hours depending on your settings
If you don't have a push-capable account, the iPhone can still fetch messages from most any email account (Gmail, Hotmail, your ISP, etc) every 15, 30 or 60 minutes. Beejive can notify any email account, so you could set things up to check for IM notifications every 15 minutes if you don't use push. (Note: frequent fetching sucks the battery, please don't whine.)
Now here comes the tricky part, try to stay with me: Since I don't A) work for the developer, that means I must be B) a liar, so my entire post is false. Except that if I'm B) a liar, and I say my post is false then it must be true. If you are either A) unable to comprehend this cataclysmic dichotomy or B) convinced that everything can be reduced to a few multiple-choice bullet points, then it may be nap time. Otherwise...
I apologize for talking down to the majority of people on this forum, who would either:
A) figure it out on their own
B) search for answers
C) politely ask for help
D) follow Beejive's instructions (http://beejive.com/support/iphone/)
jcde7ago
Sep 30, 2008, 01:07 PM
is it just me or everyone else get the keyboard lag as well?? it's not just 1 time, but quite frequent.. using MSN live messenger on beejive
Yes, i get it from time to time, usually when i am typing extremely fast. I've noticed that it doesn't lag when typing "normally." Still, not too big of an issue.
pro3g
Sep 30, 2008, 01:33 PM
Thanks for all the reviews just purchased the program and hooked it up to Yahoo mail, I set up a Yahoo mail account just for this app so I can use push notification and it works great! the app is expensive but much much better then any other IM app out there!
iblastoff
Sep 30, 2008, 01:37 PM
OK, I bought the app because all of you bunch of liars keep saying it supports push notification(s)
IT DOESN'T ATM
It says "coming soon", along so to many other basic features the app is nice and all, but it not complete and who knows if it ever will........
IMO is not worth it atm
All of you either
A. work for the developer
B. are a bunch of liars
unbelievable. honestly i feel embarassed for your parents.
jcde7ago
Sep 30, 2008, 01:41 PM
OK, I bought the app because all of you bunch of liars keep saying it supports push notification(s)
IT DOESN'T ATM
It says "coming soon", along so to many other basic features the app is nice and all, but it not complete and who knows if it ever will........
IMO is not worth it atm
All of you either
A. work for the developer
B. are a bunch of liars
Shaun? Saverio? Is that you? :p:D
BikeRanger
Sep 30, 2008, 01:44 PM
Shaun? Saverio? Is that you? :p:D
Thanks for that little LOL moment.
mcnicks
Sep 30, 2008, 01:49 PM
Very good :D
jsamuelson
Sep 30, 2008, 01:55 PM
And he's cranky, did you remember to burp him?
LOL :D
@xsecretfiles - Set an alarm labelled "Meds!" on your iPhone fella.
jsamuelson
Sep 30, 2008, 02:00 PM
This is a very slick app. The price is high, so is the quality.
I reckon have already saved the cost of the application in NOT using text messages in just a few short test chats. And once I install it on my wife's iPhone and train her properly to actually use it, I'll save a small fortune.
Even if Apple release iChat for the iPhone (that was a WTF moment when 2.0 was released hey?) soon, it still will not support Live/MSN or other IM protocols.
This is Adium for the iPhone.
jaseone
Sep 30, 2008, 02:10 PM
I'll add my 2 cents here now that I've purchased and used the app for a few hours... Basically it just works as it is described to work!
I setup my MSN, Yahoo, Google Talk and MySpace accounts all relatively pain free, although I did realize I did a typo in my Yahoo account name so attempted to go straight back in and update it, which caused it to freeze for a little while but it recovered.
It seems to handle contact statuses correctly even on MSN where the other clients have all failed me plus it has a Hide Offline setting and respects all my existing contact groups (not sure if the others do that from memory) and I can manage my contacts - add/delete/block/permanently offline etc, which the other apps only have limited functionality for.
I have it set to keep me logged on for 12 hours of non use and as I am an AT&T subscriber with unlimited texts I have the email address set to XXX-XXX-XXXX@txt.att.net (don't insert the dashes just used those for illustration purposes) and that gives me 'push email' notifications if I get a message and don't have the app open quite nicely!
It does take some time to get used to the chats window and typing messages though as there is no text input box and I'm used to having to ensure the cursor is in the input box before typing, where with Beejive it will popup that translucent speech bubble when you start typing, which maximizes the screen real estate and is actually quite neat once you get used to it!
So all in all I'm impressed and considering I've paid in the vicinity of $30 for a desktop FTP client on the Mac in the past I don't think $15.99 for an IM client for various different protocols that has it's own server infrastructure in place is all that much!
wrinklefree
Sep 30, 2008, 02:21 PM
I noticed this just as I was closing Beejive and receiving an IM. I guess this is what its going to look like once Apple gets their act together.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3287/2902813682_9fd5c4bf34_o.jpg
BikeRanger
Sep 30, 2008, 02:24 PM
A few interesting tidbits:
When making a change to the Beejive settings that will involve the server, be sure to open the app itself afterwards for the change to be transmitted.
Beejive won't add typing notification because it would add overhead and reduce battery life.
Set Beejive to push notify "yourcellnumber@txt.att.net" for a SMS notification. If you tried this before, they've reformatted the message and it's much better. (Some chat services can be independently configured to send SMS notification.)
Apparently some folks are using a free Exchange service (http://live.mail2web.com/) to push Gmail, Comcast, etc to their iPhones (http://lifehacker.com/398526/set-up-push-email-contacts-and-calendar-on-your-iphone-for-free). I haven't tried this, but hear it works well for email but not so great for calendar and contacts. Interesting workaround.
Beejive's auto-away setting can cause problems for AIM users. Set it to "off" if AIM won't login.
Some stuff was mentioned already in this thread. More is on the Beejive forums (http://www.beejive.com/support/forum/viewforum.php?f=7), where it looks like the developers are responding quickly (yeah, yeah for $16 they'd better respond quickly).
Whine preemption statement: This post is for iPhone users with Beejive installed using AT&T. SMS messages may cost you money. These are just interesting things I've discovered, they are not necessarily the best solutions, in fact they won't make sense for everyone. The earth orbits the sun.
slicecom
Sep 30, 2008, 02:28 PM
A few interesting tidbits:
When making a change to the Beejive settings that will involve the server, be sure to open the app itself afterwards for the change to be transmitted.
Beejive won't add typing notification because it would add overhead and reduce battery life.
Set Beejive to push notify "yourcellnumber@txt.att.net" for a SMS notification. If you tried this before, they've reformatted the message and it's much better. (Some chat services can be independently configured to send SMS notification.)
Apparently some folks are using a free Exchange service (http://live.mail2web.com/) to push Gmail, Comcast, etc to their iPhones (http://lifehacker.com/398526/set-up-push-email-contacts-and-calendar-on-your-iphone-for-free). I haven't tried this, but hear it works well for email but not so great for calendar and contacts. Interesting workaround.
Beejive's auto-away setting can cause problems for AIM users. Set it to "off" if AIM won't login.
Some stuff was mentioned already in this thread. More is on the Beejive forums (http://www.beejive.com/support/forum/viewforum.php?f=7), where it looks like the developers are responding quickly (yeah, yeah for $16 they'd better respond quickly).
Whine preemption statement: This post is for iPhone users with Beejive installed using AT&T. SMS messages may cost you money. These are just interesting things I've discovered, they are not necessarily the best solutions, in fact they won't make sense for everyone. The earth orbits the sun.
Great post! Thanks for that, very helpful.
jsamuelson
Sep 30, 2008, 02:32 PM
Ditto nice post BikeRanger. Interesting stuff.
jaseone
Sep 30, 2008, 02:37 PM
I just noticed if you have MSN logged in with Beejive and have an email address setup for alerts when you don't have Beejive open it will alert you if you log into MSN from another source saying so! Very nifty! :)
razorianfly
Sep 30, 2008, 03:44 PM
Been a user for best part of 18 hours, it's exceptional.
I just posted a review (http://www.razorianfly.com/2008/beejive-im-for-iphone-hits/) for anyone interested in potentially buying it.
R-Fly
BikeRanger
Sep 30, 2008, 03:46 PM
I just noticed if you have MSN logged in with Beejive and have an email address setup for alerts when you don't have Beejive open it will alert you if you log into MSN from another source saying so! Very nifty! :)
You inspired me to check AIM and I can confirm it does the same. What Beejive doing, at least in the case of AIM, is forwarding system messages as email to whatever address is set up for notification. I (AIM) tested it with txt.att.net, MobileMe and Gmail.
The more I play with this app the better it gets.
And thanks slicecom and jsamuelson!
Diggity-Dan
Sep 30, 2008, 05:52 PM
Best iPhone app so far. Well worth the $15.
DamnDJ
Sep 30, 2008, 09:32 PM
Anyone know if the auto away feature in BeeJive is based on BeeJive usage or iPhone usage?
queshy
Oct 1, 2008, 12:22 AM
Shaun? Saverio? Is that you? :p:D
lmao! Post of the week for me!
I'm veyr happy with Beejive so far. Push works like it's supposed to. I'm just worried at what's gonna happen once my MobileMe trial expires...hah.
Hopefully by then Apple will flick the switch on for push...
diesel
Oct 1, 2008, 12:35 AM
lmao! Post of the week for me!
I'm veyr happy with Beejive so far. Push works like it's supposed to. I'm just worried at what's gonna happen once my MobileMe trial expires...hah.
Hopefully by then Apple will flick the switch on for push...
Create a yahoo mail account just for the purposes of receiving your beejive notifications via push. yahoo mail is free and is push enabled by default and works almost insantaneously with beejive.
tongteh
Oct 1, 2008, 02:07 AM
any information about them working on an update?? :) just curious...
jcde7ago
Oct 1, 2008, 02:40 AM
any information about them working on an update?? :) just curious...
Over at the official Beejive forums (link is a page or two back) there have been numerous feature requests that people have suggested, and the devs have openly responded by saying that they are already working on those suggested features while also potentially adding some of the features that people requested that they hadn't thought of. As far as updates go, i'd be surprised if we don't get an update within the next few weeks, filled with a bunch of new features. :)
pro3g
Oct 1, 2008, 06:27 AM
The auto away feature works from the beejive application if you using your phone but have not logged in for the amount of time you set it shows you as away.
jaseone
Oct 1, 2008, 09:18 AM
Not directly Beejive related but damn AT&T and their From number on texts generated by emails to yourphonenumber@txt.att.net that I use for pseudo push notification! It seems the from number increments with each message so they don't get grouped in the SMS application, very annoying! I wish you could setup a contact with a wildcard number or something to group that way...
Rojo
Oct 1, 2008, 09:41 AM
I just noticed that Beejive just made it into the Top 25 apps (at least in U.S. store), which is pretty impressive for a non-game app that has free alternatives and is still $16.
This makes me think they won't be dropping their price anytime soon, though. I still don't IM quite enough to justify spending $16, but if I did I would definitely go with Beejive.
razorianfly
Oct 1, 2008, 10:11 AM
I can confirm (as of now) Beejive is ranked 51st in paid applications on iTunes UK.
R-Fly
tobefirst
Oct 1, 2008, 10:24 AM
I'm not a huge IMer on the iPhone, and have been awaiting Apple's update to allow push notifications. I told myself that I was going to wait until at least then if I was going to purchase any of the IM applications to at least see how each of them implemented it.
However, based on the almost unanimous praise for this app by everyone who buys it...even those who, like myself, were weary about paying so much for an IM app...I went ahead and went for it. Rarely will you find that an application is so universally admired.
This is a triumph for instant messaging applications AND a triumph for Apple's new application feedback/review system. Two weeks ago, and this application would be buried by 1 star reviews.
kickpush
Oct 1, 2008, 10:31 AM
I can confirm (as of now) Beejive is ranked 51st in paid applications on iTunes UK.
R-Fly
it's 25th in the U.S store :)
lesliegolf
Oct 1, 2008, 10:39 AM
it's 25th in the U.S store :)
24th now!
razorianfly
Oct 1, 2008, 11:46 AM
Now 49th in the UK. I've been using it for about 2 days, and I have to say I cannot recommend it highly enough.
They got it right with this one - and, hyperlinks and photo recieve/send is coming in the next update to Beejive IM. :cool:
R-Fly
slicecom
Oct 1, 2008, 11:58 AM
It's 13th in Canada. Probably because everyone here uses MSN and Beejive is really the only decent app that supports it... or Canadians just aren't as cheap as the rest of you. :p jk!
bbplayer5
Oct 1, 2008, 12:04 PM
wow they reformatted it for push SMS!!! So effing awesome!!! No need to enable push now :D
heyp
Oct 1, 2008, 12:14 PM
wow they reformatted it for push SMS!!! So effing awesome!!! No need to enable push now :D
what do you mean?
jaseone
Oct 1, 2008, 12:21 PM
what do you mean?
They mean if you use your phone number's text email address for the push notifications the notification they send is formatted to fit nicely in a SMS/Text message, am not sure if they also format all other push emails that way now or not.
bbplayer5
Oct 1, 2008, 12:24 PM
what do you mean?
It doesnt send you 6 txt messages anymore, it sents one short one.
bbplayer5
Oct 1, 2008, 12:29 PM
They mean if you use your phone number's text email address for the push notifications the notification they send is formatted to fit nicely in a SMS/Text message, am not sure if they also format all other push emails that way now or not.
My guess is it knows your email address is a phone based on the 6 digit number. THerefore, simply reformats for a phone.
This company is just spot on.
jaseone
Oct 1, 2008, 12:34 PM
My guess is it knows your email address is a phone based on the 6 digit number. THerefore, simply reformats for a phone.
This company is just spot on.
/me waits for some whiner to complain "but what if my email address actually is 1234567890@gmail.com?"
PS. you meant 10 digit number I'm sure! ;)
bbplayer5
Oct 1, 2008, 12:47 PM
/me waits for some whiner to complain "but what if my email address actually is 1234567890@gmail.com?"
PS. you meant 10 digit number I'm sure! ;)
ya oops :p
kyububba
Oct 1, 2008, 01:02 PM
ya oops :p
It's just a 2 part email. We don't parse the email addresses. Should work fine regardless of your email address. HTML emails on the phone will show the button and be formatted, SMS emails will be text only.
There is an issue with SMS notification on AT&T. Basically unicode characters won't show up correctly on AT&T, so if someone sends you a message in Russian or Japanese, the text will come across garbled on AT&T SMS, but this is an AT&T email to SMS problem... Out of our hands.
Presumably the SMS will come across on other carriers that have to deal with unicode characters more frequently, maybe someone out there can verify?
bbplayer5
Oct 1, 2008, 01:11 PM
Whatever it is, I love it. I hope SMS notify stays active even after the push services are put in by Apple. My experience is that any form of push activated on the phone, drains the crap out of the battery.
ryanwarsaw
Oct 1, 2008, 01:32 PM
Does the SMS notify work for O2 customers in the UK?
queshy
Oct 1, 2008, 01:39 PM
SMS notifications not working for me...maybe because I'm on MSN? I think I heard from the MC guys that MSN can't support SMS notifications...
jaseone
Oct 1, 2008, 01:41 PM
Does the SMS notify work for O2 customers in the UK?
See this post (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=6322303&postcount=183).
jaseone
Oct 1, 2008, 01:44 PM
SMS notifications not working for me...maybe because I'm on MSN? I think I heard from the MC guys that MSN can't support SMS notifications...
MobileChat were putting up smoke and mirrors touting SMS notifications as a feature where simply it was AIM's servers that can be setup to SMS you if you are away/offline and get IM'd by someone. The notifications people are referring to as SMS here with Beejive are emails sent by the Beejive server to an email address that forwards the email as a text/SMS to your phone number.
This should work for all IM protocols and I can state for a fact that it works for me on MSN, Google Talk and Yahoo IM with XXXXXXXXXX@txt.att.net, so maybe it is something with your provider?
Note: Theoretically MC would be able to be setup to use the same email->text address and send the same alerts but that would require their service to actually work as advertised and for them to switch the email notifications on as last I looked they hadn't flipped the switch to lighten the load.
ryanwarsaw
Oct 1, 2008, 01:52 PM
See this post (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=6322303&postcount=183).
Thanks for giving me the link jaseone.
Worked perfectly, I can ditch yahoo now :)
bbplayer5
Oct 1, 2008, 02:09 PM
BeeJive is actually still randomly sending me 6 part messages in SMS once in a while.
sbandol
Oct 1, 2008, 02:30 PM
Does the SMS notify work for Movistar customers in Spain?
Anybody?
ryanwarsaw
Oct 1, 2008, 02:32 PM
BeeJive is actually still randomly sending me 6 part messages in SMS once in a while.
Does it really matter what it sends? I don't even read the messages just open Beejive when i get the notice. Aslong as it buzzes then that's good enough for me.
jaseone
Oct 1, 2008, 02:33 PM
Does it really matter what it sends? I don't even read the messages just open Beejive when i get the notice. Aslong as it buzzes then that's good enough for me.
I guess it would matter for those with a set number of text messages on their plan where received messages count against their plan.
ryanwarsaw
Oct 1, 2008, 02:37 PM
Oh, okay. I thought incoming SMS were free. I guess they charge maybe in the USA same as for incoming calls? If so I certainly see the complaint.
jaseone
Oct 1, 2008, 02:42 PM
Oh, okay. I thought incoming SMS were free. I guess they charge maybe in the USA same as for incoming calls? If so I certainly see the complaint.
Correct here in the USA received texts along with received calls are charged, which boggles the mind especially when you can get both unsolicited.
ryanwarsaw
Oct 1, 2008, 02:45 PM
Then again it is sort of offset because most American carriers give weekends and evenings free nation wide. As far as I know I have never seen that here in Europe.
08mxkfx
Oct 1, 2008, 03:17 PM
i just downloaded beejive and i love it. so much more stable then aim and mobilechat. i have it set to notify me through mobileme and it works awesome! Can't wait till apple integrates push notification into the phone.
bbplayer5
Oct 1, 2008, 03:19 PM
Then again it is sort of offset because most American carriers give weekends and evenings free nation wide. As far as I know I have never seen that here in Europe.
AT&T is 5000 nights and weekends, which is basically unlimited. We also have rollover minutes.. Anytime minutes we dont use, go to the next month.
Applepi
Oct 1, 2008, 04:00 PM
Just decided to pull the trigger and I have to say with AIM and the others slacking so bad, this is well worth the $15.
diesel
Oct 1, 2008, 04:22 PM
To all you new beejive buyers......welcome aboard!!!
i hope good quality apps like beejive will help change all these juvenile notions that just because most of the apps on the iphone are free, .99 or under 9.99, that anything greater than that is simply a rip off.
devs put untold hours of work into their products and quite frankly should be rewarded, especially when they roll out products such as beejive that sets an excellent high standard for future apps to match, but beejive did it right out of the gate with version 1.0 unlike 99% of the apps out there where quality was sacrificed in the dev's rush to market to simply make $$$$
Oilbrnr
Oct 1, 2008, 04:43 PM
^^ Well said diesel.
I'm digg'n BeeJive.
baysickbeatz
Oct 1, 2008, 05:35 PM
I had my push set to a yahoo mail account yesterday. I switched it to push by sms to my att number, and finally switched it to that mail2web.com email service with exchange. Now when i get messages when beejive isnt open i am getting some messages to my email, and some are still going to my sms. I am also getting email pushes from beejive when i am logged into my AIM and GTalk screen names through meebo.com while i am at my desk. Anyone else encountering this problem? Whats going on here beejive?! im a loyal beejive customer ever since my blackberry over a year ago, and have been waiting for this app since i got my iphone last year. I hope, hope, hope, these issues will be resolved with the next update...and even with these minor possible bugs...I LOVE THIS APP!
diesel
Oct 1, 2008, 05:37 PM
I had my push set to a yahoo mail account yesterday. I switched it to push by sms to my att number, and finally switched it to that mail2web.com email service with exchange. Now when i get messages when beejive isnt open i am getting some messages to my email, and some are still going to my sms. I am also getting email pushes from beejive when i am logged into my AIM and GTalk screen names through meebo.com while i am at my desk. Anyone else encountering this problem? Whats going on here beejive?! im a loyal beejive customer ever since my blackberry over a year ago, and have been waiting for this app since i got my iphone last year. I hope, hope, hope, these issues will be resolved with the next update...and even with these minor possible bugs...I LOVE THIS APP!
give it time i guess. beejive might have multiple servers for load balancing purposes perhaps, and the changes to your email push setting might not have been propagated to all of their servers.
out of curiosity, if you want push email, why did you choose not to stick with yahoo mail?
TopToffee
Oct 1, 2008, 07:00 PM
To all you new beejive buyers......welcome aboard!!!
i hope good quality apps like beejive will help change all these juvenile notions that just because most of the apps on the iphone are free, .99 or under 9.99, that anything greater than that is simply a rip off.
devs put untold hours of work into their products and quite frankly should be rewarded, especially when they roll out products such as beejive that sets an excellent high standard for future apps to match, but beejive did it right out of the gate with version 1.0 unlike 99% of the apps out there where quality was sacrificed in the dev's rush to market to simply make $$$$
I agree that people shouldn't COMPLAIN about price tags of apps if they're well made pieces of software... the only question I have about the beejive price point is whether it's actually the best choice FOR THE DEVS...
I mean, look at it this way. Let's say you create a piece of software that you believe is worth $10... but you know that you will make more money in total if you price it at $5.
Which price are you going to go for?
I think Beejive is a cracking application and well "worth" $16, but I also think that they would have made a higher total profit with a lower pricetag.
jcde7ago
Oct 1, 2008, 07:16 PM
I agree that people shouldn't COMPLAIN about price tags of apps if they're well made pieces of software... the only question I have about the beejive price point is whether it's actually the best choice FOR THE DEVS...
I mean, look at it this way. Let's say you create a piece of software that you believe is worth $10... but you know that you will make more money in total if you price it at $5.
Which price are you going to go for?
I think Beejive is a cracking application and well "worth" $16, but I also think that they would have made a higher total profit with a lower pricetag.
I disagree, and i actually think that what Beejive's doing is a great marketing scheme.
Put it this way; you release a product, one with a very good history of being a quality, reliable product, at a high price point and you get people to cave in and buy it. What happens is, IM enthusiasts and those who have experience with Beejive on other smartphones are 99% likely to buy your product for the iPhone, knowing how good it was on other platforms.
And as luck would have it, iTunes review system gets an overhaul, allowing only those who purchased the app to review it; thus, because of the higher price point, most of the buyers of Beejive are those wanting a reliable IM program, even with the cost. At the same time, Beejive is getting rave reviews from these customers, thus persuading buyers who would not have spent $16 to eventually cave in and buy it. Because it's not a .99 cent product, it prevents it from being saturated with rather ignorant, negative reviews of people who have nothing better to say than, "Palringo is free, this isn't even worth 99 cents."
As of now, Beejive has gotten a massive amount of positive support behind it (and rightfully so), and now they are in a position to sell more or just as much as if it were a significantly lower price; sure, it might take more time, but more people will eventually "cave in" and just buy it. And after the hundreds and hundreds of reviews get posted saying that this product really is worth $16 bones, guess what happens when they decide to drop it to say, $5.99? This thing will sell faster than you can say "hotcakes."
I'd rather have 10,000 people buy my product at 16 bucks than have 20,000 people buy it at 6 bucks, wouldn't you?
The folks at Beejive knew what they were doing releasing it at $16, and i would be very surprised if they didn't have a target goal of how many units they wanted to sell at its current price point that they haven't already met ;)
ryanwarsaw
Oct 1, 2008, 07:37 PM
Beejive set the price they are a company, I am sure they priced it how they felt it would make the most profit. So your opinion doesn't really matter. They are a company and I am sure they try to do the best for themselves. I doubt they are the idiots you make them out to be.
jcde7ago
Oct 1, 2008, 07:46 PM
Beejive set the price they are a company, I am sure they priced it how they felt it would make the most profit. So your opinion doesn't really matter. They are a company and I am sure they try to do the best for themselves. I doubt they are the idiots you make them out to be.
I hope this isn't directed at me, seeing as how the posts here are obviously successive...if not, there's an option to quote who you're addressing...
aluren
Oct 1, 2008, 08:06 PM
i think $9.99 is the sweet spot. there's a couple of free options for IM on the iphone (im+ or meebo or beejive browser version) that it's hard for me to justify a $15.99 purchase. now i know this app is probably a million times better than the rest (aesthetics or features), but for me, i don't find any difference since the free apps serves my basic IM needs.
ryanwarsaw
Oct 1, 2008, 08:07 PM
The post is directed at anybody that thinks they have a better price point than the actual developes. Nobody else.
ryanwarsaw
Oct 1, 2008, 08:08 PM
i think $9.99 is the sweet spot. there's a couple of free options for IM on the iphone (im+ or meebo or beejive browser version) that it's hard for me to justify a $15.99 purchase. now i know this app is probably a million times better than the rest (aesthetics or features), but for me, i don't find any difference since the free apps serves my basic IM needs.
If you haven't bought it then you don't know what it does.
aluren
Oct 1, 2008, 08:28 PM
uh, i believe reading the description on beejive will allow me to know what it does... otherwise you're saying that you bought beejive without knowing what it is?
gospel9
Oct 1, 2008, 09:54 PM
What's with the flaming?
Most people have seen enough of the app to make out whether or not they like the interface. Simply saying that you haven't purchased the app dosent mean they cannot give their opinion.
It's like saying you haven't bought a brown Zune player yet therefor you cannot say it looks ugly to YOU. This argument is not going to go anywhere - customers AND POTENTIAL buyers have every right to make these judgements and whether or not the price is right for ONE PERSON can be very different for someone else.
I don't tolerate people doing fake reviews, but everyone should be free to speak out the opinion.
okrelayer
Oct 1, 2008, 10:03 PM
Well, concerning this App. If your just into casual instant messageing, such as going on aim for maybe 15 min talk to a few folks on your iPhone then go do something else this app is NOT for you.
this app is for the people that enjoy to keep aim/yahoo/msn active for long periods of time. Being able to get notified anytime if you have any messages coming through.
sure 15.99 is a bit pricey, but for the life of the phone having a great and WORKING IM app, i think its worth it. It also keeps casual people away, and gives their servers a bit of a break
the UI is top notch to boot to.
Andrmgic
Oct 1, 2008, 10:18 PM
Well, concerning this App. If your just into casual instant messageing, such as going on aim for maybe 15 min talk to a few folks on your iPhone then go do something else this app is NOT for you.
this app is for the people that enjoy to keep aim/yahoo/msn active for long periods of time. Being able to get notified anytime if you have any messages coming through.
sure 15.99 is a bit pricey, but for the life of the phone having a great and WORKING IM app, i think its worth it. It also keeps casual people away, and gives their servers a bit of a break
the UI is top notch to boot to.
Aside from the black chat screen bug, I feel it was worth the purchase. I'm sure they'll fix that, though. I'd also like them to add an integrated browser window like the developer of "Rooms" did.. it lets you look at a url in an IRC chat without leaving the program.
OneMike
Oct 1, 2008, 10:20 PM
I think that's a big point also on price. Sure @ $4.99 they'd have gotten probably 20 times as many sales but that also put 20 times more the strain on their servers and also increase expenses to keep things running smooth.
vvebsta
Oct 2, 2008, 01:09 AM
I bought this app and immediately emailed Beejive about whether they would add smileys and stuff like voice record like Palringo offers. They sent me a reply this morning (pretty speedy reply actually) saying...
"Thank you for the feedback. Yes, we will be adding emoticons in our updates that are forth coming. File transfers are also scheduled to ome in our updates.
Thank You!"
So more good stuff on the way!
domness
Oct 2, 2008, 02:03 AM
I'm really happy with the way Beejive Handle things. It's no nonsense and everything works great.
jsamuelson
Oct 2, 2008, 03:26 AM
I think a lot of people are missing something significant - unless you have a bazillion SMS messages included in your plan this can replace costly texting back and forth and you will save the price of the app in a single day. Most people don't even come close to using up their full data allowance and IM is lightweight on data usage anyway.
By being online with Beejive virtually all the time I have chatted with friends I haven't spoken to in years in the last few days. Pure gold.
slicecom
Oct 2, 2008, 07:18 AM
I bought this app and immediately emailed Beejive about whether they would add smileys and stuff like voice record like Palringo offers. They sent me a reply this morning (pretty speedy reply actually) saying...
"Thank you for the feedback. Yes, we will be adding emoticons in our updates that are forth coming. File transfers are also scheduled to ome in our updates.
Thank You!"
So more good stuff on the way!
You should have just went to their forum! It's been answered there numerous times and they answer questions within minutes! They're really quite impressive when it comes to responding to customers.
jaseone
Oct 2, 2008, 07:52 AM
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I think Beejive is actually better for the casual IMer than the other programs as the beauty of Beejive is that you can always be available for chatting through their servers but not use any battery life unless you are actually chatting especially if you have some sort of free push email available (and there are plenty of free services). I'm not a big IMer myself but love Beejive for this reason especially as I have the push email alerts coming to me via text on AT&T!
tongteh
Oct 2, 2008, 10:32 AM
hey, is there a way that i could send beejive a feedback about the application?? don't you guys think if Beejive have the option to let you choose how long it would auto lock the iphone while using beejive would be great? like let's say the option are 1, 2, 5, 10 or never, same like the way it is being done in "Air Sharing"
for example, some of our friends do not reply instantly, but because our iPhone is being set to auto lock in 1 minute we will have to unlock it again and again while waiting for our friend's reply.. :(
so if there is a way to change the auto lock of the iphone while using beejive would be AWESOME!! ;) i am loving this application very much so far, except for the fact that the keyboard always lags on me(maybe because i type like a lighting).. :P
let me know what do you think of my suggestion.. :)
jaseone
Oct 2, 2008, 10:34 AM
hey, is there a way that i could send beejive a feedback about the application??
http://www.beejive.com/support/forum/viewforum.php?f=7&sid=e622ec8e7ffab1359f9494ea71ae1bff
aluren
Oct 2, 2008, 11:09 AM
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I think Beejive is actually better for the casual IMer than the other programs as the beauty of Beejive is that you can always be available for chatting through their servers but not use any battery life unless you are actually chatting especially if you have some sort of free push email available (and there are plenty of free services). I'm not a big IMer myself but love Beejive for this reason especially as I have the push email alerts coming to me via text on AT&T!
wow, the battery life part is interesting. i used to have beejive for my blackberry curve and if i don't shut the program down, my battery will be drained out in about 3 hours (without any chatting). so this might actually seal the deal for me. i would pay $16 for being online all the time and receive IM's even when the program is closed.
Niiro13
Oct 2, 2008, 11:19 AM
wow, the battery life part is interesting. i used to have beejive for my blackberry curve and if i don't shut the program down, my battery will be drained out in about 3 hours (without any chatting). so this might actually seal the deal for me. i would pay $16 for being online all the time and receive IM's even when the program is closed.
The problem is that if you don't have MobileMe (yay to me having it :D) or unlimited SMS, you won't get notified of those IMs right away. It will be based on how fast you put fetch in your email. And if you don't even want to use email notifications, then you'll have to open the program to see if you got any messages...or way until push comes.
techiegirl
Oct 2, 2008, 11:22 AM
As mentioned before, there are free alternatives to push--mail2web and Yahoo.
The problem is that if you don't have MobileMe (yay to me having it :D) or unlimited SMS, you won't get notified of those IMs right away. It will be based on how fast you put fetch in your email. And if you don't even want to use email notifications, then you'll have to open the program to see if you got any messages...or way until push comes.
jaseone
Oct 2, 2008, 11:27 AM
The problem is that if you don't have MobileMe (yay to me having it :D) or unlimited SMS, you won't get notified of those IMs right away. It will be based on how fast you put fetch in your email. And if you don't even want to use email notifications, then you'll have to open the program to see if you got any messages...or way until push comes.
You could always use a free account from somewhere like mail2web.com to get PUSH through Exchange Activesync.
aluren
Oct 2, 2008, 12:29 PM
You could always use a free account from somewhere like mail2web.com to get PUSH through Exchange Activesync.
so how does that work? linking beejive servers to mail2web.com and then set up an email push account on the iphone? then IM's will be push to that email account??
TopToffee
Oct 2, 2008, 12:31 PM
Beejive set the price they are a company, I am sure they priced it how they felt it would make the most profit. So your opinion doesn't really matter. They are a company and I am sure they try to do the best for themselves. I doubt they are the idiots you make them out to be.
wow.... wind your neck in a little.
"your opinion doesn't really matter"... well if you're going to be so pedantic, that statement accounts for about 95% of what is written on here... so maybe we should just shut the forum down and not bother with it anymore, because it's pretty much a bunch of people posting about stuff which their opinion will have no influence on.
OR people like you could accept that this is an open discussion forum, where people can give their opinions on things they have an interest in.
And I was not for a moment insinuating that the devs of Beejive are idiots. They're clearly not, as they've come up with an exceptional App.
*However* their app at the current pricepoint has only JUST managed to break the top 50 paid apps on iTunes, and it is my belief that at a lower pricepoint (not 99c or anything silly like that - but a $5 or $6 pricetag) the would probably have hit the top in a very short space of time -- and remember, the vast majority of iPhone users almost certainly don't spend large amounts of time around forums such as this one, and may not even KNOW about the existance of Beejive... if it was up and around the top of the chart, that would lead to even more sales... snowball effect etc.
And I'm *guessing * that the No.1 spot on the chart has more than 3x the sales of spot 47... which would more than make up for the price difference.
But what do I know? My opinion apparently doesn't matter.
jaseone
Oct 2, 2008, 12:32 PM
so how does that work? linking beejive servers to mail2web.com and then set up an email push account on the iphone? then IM's will be push to that email account??
You register with them, get an account + email address, set that up as a push email account on your iPhone and then set that email address for the notifications in Beejive. You don't need to use that account for anything else.
techiegirl
Oct 2, 2008, 12:33 PM
Push to SMS (AT&T) stopped working for me this morning. I switched back to my exchange and it's working fine there.
djdjek
Oct 2, 2008, 03:35 PM
Does anyone know when the iphone is on sleep if you still can reveice some notifications that you have a IM message on BeeJive?
queshy
Oct 2, 2008, 03:59 PM
MobileChat were putting up smoke and mirrors touting SMS notifications as a feature where simply it was AIM's servers that can be setup to SMS you if you are away/offline and get IM'd by someone. The notifications people are referring to as SMS here with Beejive are emails sent by the Beejive server to an email address that forwards the email as a text/SMS to your phone number.
This should work for all IM protocols and I can state for a fact that it works for me on MSN, Google Talk and Yahoo IM with XXXXXXXXXX@txt.att.net, so maybe it is something with your provider?
Note: Theoretically MC would be able to be setup to use the same email->text address and send the same alerts but that would require their service to actually work as advertised and for them to switch the email notifications on as last I looked they hadn't flipped the switch to lighten the load.
Thanks, but I tried entering my 10digitnumber@fido.ca (i'm with fido) and it doesn't work. However, if I go to my gmail and send an email to my @fido.ca email address, it comes as an SMS to my phone. So what gives?
Niiro13
Oct 2, 2008, 04:05 PM
Does anyone know when the iphone is on sleep if you still can reveice some notifications that you have a IM message on BeeJive?
I assume you're talking about when the BeeJive application is still open and you put the phone to sleep (otherwise it's the same as receiving an email/SMS).
The answer is yes. The sound it makes is identical to the first ring when you're receiving an audio chat from someone using iChat. Kinda like the iPhone ad ringtone only shorter...maybe 3/4 of a second?
SeVeN
Oct 2, 2008, 05:32 PM
this app is awesome, i have been logged in since i bought it, 28 hours :p
djdjek
Oct 2, 2008, 06:29 PM
I assume you're talking about when the BeeJive application is still open and you put the phone to sleep (otherwise it's the same as receiving an email/SMS).
The answer is yes. The sound it makes is identical to the first ring when you're receiving an audio chat from someone using iChat. Kinda like the iPhone ad ringtone only shorter...maybe 3/4 of a second?
Really?I've tried but nothing happened and I did not hear none. So what do I have to do then?
Do I need to change the settings for that?
gospel9
Oct 2, 2008, 06:42 PM
Looking at Beejive's support forum, the app is not as good as some of you claim it to be.
http://www.beejive.com/support/forum/viewforum.php?f=7&sid=068e1d5304c622b7d3700bed41135dfe
Some problems include Beejive specific keyboard lag, unable to connect via EDGE, and so on.
Although I must give the developers a big applause for their very responsive support. If you are like me who is still considering whether to buy beejive or not, I do suggest you look over there first.
There is still hope for Yahoo to extend OneConnect through all IM services as well as a free Push solution when Apple is ready. The temporary "fake push" solution only works for a few, certainly not me (no free SMS and no cluttering up mailbox)... I will wait out on this although having a 24 hour connectivity is very tempting for me to buy it.
The price at $16 is justifiable, but only if the service continues to be as good, and only if competition remains the same.
chanibus
Oct 2, 2008, 07:08 PM
Looking at Beejive's support forum, the app is not as good as some of you claim it to be.
http://www.beejive.com/support/forum/viewforum.php?f=7&sid=068e1d5304c622b7d3700bed41135dfe
Some problems include Beejive specific keyboard lag, unable to connect via EDGE, and so on.
Although I must give the developers a big applause for their very responsive support. If you are like me who is still considering whether to buy beejive or not, I do suggest you look over there first.
There is still hope for Yahoo to extend OneConnect through all IM services as well as a free Push solution when Apple is ready. The temporary "fake push" solution only works for a few, certainly not me (no free SMS and no cluttering up mailbox)... I will wait out on this although having a 24 hour connectivity is very tempting for me to buy it.
The price at $16 is justifiable, but only if the service continues to be as good, and only if competition remains the same.
252 reviews, 5 stars
the people have spoken :-)
jaseone
Oct 2, 2008, 07:08 PM
Yeah a funny thing happens in SUPPORT forums, strangely enough people report issues they are having, fancy that! There aren't that many verifiable bugs I have read about over there but mainly feature requests, I believe the connectivity is likely carrier related as I get that with all apps on AT&T's service and the keyboard lag also happens all over the place and not surprisingly after I disabled push from MobileMe I haven't had any such issues yet *touch wood*.
I'm not saying it isn't perfect as nothing is and Beejive definitely has some issues but do remember the majority of happy customers are quiet ones and going by the number of happy customers that have said something then that is a pretty good sign right there.
wildmilne
Oct 3, 2008, 06:54 AM
ive seen an issue where when you go back to the chat window its all black, you have to click another "tab" at the bottom, then go back in again for it to return with your previous chat...
kevin512
Oct 3, 2008, 07:00 AM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.18.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.1 Mobile/5F136 Safari/525.20)
ive seen an issue where when you go back to the chat window its all black, you have to click another "tab" at the bottom, then go back in again for it to return with your previous chat...
Beejive has acknowledged this as a known issue in the help section in the app.
leog
Jan 9, 2009, 11:07 AM
I'm looking for an alternative to AT&T's SMS charges here in the US, which can add up quickly and honestly seem like a scam.
I don't have any IM accounts, but can this app be configured to handle normal SMS messages that would regularly be handled by AT&T so that my data plan covers it instead of the SMS charges? If so it will easily be worth the $15.
I do have google mail, so I assume I could set up a google IM account--could that be somehow tied to my phone# so that google handles SMS for me, I guess through this app?
Thanks, and sorry if this has been asked before--no time to sort through 13 pages of thread!
Rayfire
Jan 9, 2009, 11:29 AM
I'm looking for an alternative to AT&T's SMS charges here in the US, which can add up quickly and honestly seem like a scam.
I don't have any IM accounts, but can this app be configured to handle normal SMS messages that would regularly be handled by AT&T so that my data plan covers it instead of the SMS charges? If so it will easily be worth the $15.
I do have google mail, so I assume I could set up a google IM account--could that be somehow tied to my phone# so that google handles SMS for me, I guess through this app?
Thanks, and sorry if this has been asked before--no time to sort through 13 pages of thread!
The Yahoo! IM on Beejive takes care of SMS going in and out, all I have to do is simply open a chat, then press 1+AreaCode+Number of whoever I want to text to, of course I introduce myself (since it will pop up a different number to them) then I could send out SMS for free. If they reply to my messages, it directs you back to that Y!IM chat in Beejive (don't forget Beejive has a sort of push email notification), but if they reply to your local phone number, it gets counted to you as 1 SMS message. I'm not sure if Google IM has this option, might as well create a YIM :P
santangelo
Jan 9, 2009, 12:04 PM
i paid for the app before it was 2.0 and it hasnt updated does this mean i have to pay again?
Rayfire
Jan 9, 2009, 12:08 PM
i paid for the app before it was 2.0 and it hasnt updated does this mean i have to pay again?
No you don't have to pay again, you can just download it again for free when you've purchased it before.
TheZimm
Jan 10, 2009, 01:47 PM
This app is just so great, I'm so glad I got it. In comparison to palringo it is awesome. Well worth the money =]
Zym
P.S. Review on my site, but it just says this same thing =]
chipfan04
Jan 11, 2009, 07:21 PM
How much was the first version of this app?
Rayfire
Jan 11, 2009, 10:29 PM
How much was the first version of this app?
USD $15.99
XianPalin
Jan 12, 2009, 09:34 AM
I got it and uninstalled all the other chat apps I had (mobilechat, IM+, aim, palringo... none of them 'just worked' 100% of the time like beejive) and haven't looked back. It never crashes, always connects, always works.
It did crash on me the other day using that new picture sharing feature, but I was just testing out and will probably never use it. Other than that its been rock solid.
Rayfire
Mar 2, 2009, 02:42 AM
BeejiveIM - Instant Messaging Anywhere is now on sale for $9.99 from $15.99
I strongly suggest you get it, it is woooorth every penny, hands down. Sale only runs this week (I assume till March 6th)
whitlecj
Mar 2, 2009, 08:24 AM
Thanks for posting. I really need to pull the trigger on this sale this time.
Rayfire
Mar 2, 2009, 12:34 PM
Thanks for posting. I really need to pull the trigger on this sale this time.
You're welcome. Best IM app ever, you'll like it ;)
gloss
Mar 2, 2009, 12:48 PM
I blind-bought Beejive because I got sick of Mobilechat being a broken POS...I must say, it's a phenomenal app - Responsive, slick, beautiful, and functional. Well worth the $10.
Mobilechat wouldn't even allow me to log onto Google Talk. Beejive did so instantly, and with a superior interface to boot. Add to that the fact that they seem genuinely concerned with improving their application, unlike Twenty08 with theirs, and you've got a winner.
Go buy it.
Watabou
Mar 2, 2009, 01:19 PM
Bought it on impulse. I was waiting for it to go down to 12.99 like before but this is even better!
Thank you, Rayfire, for the heads up! :D
EDIT: I've been trying out Beejive with my friend's iPhone and I wanted to buy it for a long time. And I have to say, I am impressed a lot more than when I tried it on my friend's iPhone. It's way more stable than Palringo and it notifies the instant you get a message. Plus, you can stay connected upto a day! Way cool. Totally worth the price but I glad I got it at $10.
whitlecj
Mar 2, 2009, 01:44 PM
Just bought it. Figured if nothing else it will make for a good review on our site. lol. The things we tell ourselves to justify purchases.
neiltc13
Mar 2, 2009, 02:53 PM
I've been playing with Beejive IM tonight and I'm really, really impressed. I was sceptical that it would be worth £5.99 (let alone the £9.99 regular price) but it is by far the best IM client for iPhone.
It's so stable. IM+ used to crash sometimes and it would never, ever store the names I renamed contacts to. Very often it would also just completely mess up the IM window, squeezing all the text together so it was unreadable. I had to restart the app to get rid of it, also normally losing my in-progress conversations.
There is also an awesome feature where you can link each contact to an address book card and then it automatically names the contact what their name is in the address book. Saved me a lot of typing!
tribangle
Mar 5, 2009, 06:20 PM
Couple of questions to the masses:
I Currently have 200 text messages a month... My friend pays 0.10 per text message. We both purchase beejive...
- Does it cost my friend any money to receive text message, or would his google talk handle that?
- Does it cost any money to send SMS to non beejive owner?
Thanks!
tribangle
bytethese
Mar 5, 2009, 06:45 PM
Couple of questions to the masses:
I Currently have 200 text messages a month... My friend pays 0.10 per text message. We both purchase beejive...
- Does it cost my friend any money to receive text message, or would his google talk handle that?
- Does it cost any money to send SMS to non beejive owner?
Thanks!
tribangle
-Beejive doesn't use SMS, it's "normal" data.
-I think most providers charge both incoming and outgoing SMS...
jmccray
Mar 5, 2009, 07:27 PM
Couple of questions to the masses:
I Currently have 200 text messages a month... My friend pays 0.10 per text message. We both purchase beejive...
- Does it cost my friend any money to receive text message, or would his google talk handle that?
- Does it cost any money to send SMS to non beejive owner?
Thanks!
tribangle
Yeah, just talk to your friend through google talk....i was able to lower my text plan to 200 and have not regretted it. Beejive has saved me so much in texting cost alone. It has really paid for itself over and over.
LePigeonBleu
Mar 5, 2009, 09:44 PM
Am I the only one thinking that Beejive should be $5 for at least a week?
Personally, I think it's a little overpriced.
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Rayfire
Mar 6, 2009, 02:36 AM
Am I the only one thinking that Beejive should be $5 for at least a week?
Personally, I think it's a little overpriced.
m
Read the whole thread, that pricing thing has been discussed in ages.
IMO it's their app, they developed it, they put hard work, they bought servers that they need to maintain, they keep on upgrading their app and listen to their users, I believe it's in their own discretion to price it competitively - so far it's worth every penny and no regrets at all. This overpricing argument is sometimes ..nevermind ;)
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