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avigalante
Sep 29, 2008, 02:07 PM
This is a horrendous and unacceptable act (even more so during the holy month of Ramadan); but what is far more alarming (and disheartening) is the fact that this story isn't being widely reported and/or published by the likes of CNN/MSNBC/etc.

God forbid; but if this happened to an individual of any other major religious denomination, I am fairly certain this would be a "Breaking News Alert" for most media outlets and the story would gain traction immediately.

My Google-News search yielded a petty three results from the Dayton newspaper...

Posted for discussion - comments/concerns/thoughts are welcome.

The Huffington Post[/I]"]

Muslim Children Gassed at Dayton Mosque After Obsession DVD Hits Ohio (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-rodda/muslim-children-gassed-at_b_130076.html)

Friday, September 26th ended a week in which thousands of copies of Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West -- the fear-mongering, anti-Muslim documentary being distributed by the millions in swing states via DVDs inserted in major newspapers and through the U.S. mail -- were distributed by mail in Ohio. The same day, a "chemical irritant" was sprayed through a window of the Islamic Society of Greater Dayton, where 300 people were gathered for a Ramadan prayer service. The room that the chemical was sprayed into was the room where babies and children were being kept while their mothers were engaged in prayers. This, apparently, is what the scare tactic political campaigning of John McCain's supporters has led to -- Americans perpetrating a terrorist attack against innocent children on American soil.

I read the story as reported by the Dayton Daily News, but this was after I had received an email written by a friend of some of the victims of these American terrorists. The matter of fact news report in the Dayton paper didn't come close to conveying the horrific impact of this unthinkable act like the email I had just read, so I asked the email's author for permission to share what they had written. The author was with one of the families from the mosque -- a mother and two of the small children who were in the room that was gassed -- the day after the attack occurred.

"She told me that the gas was sprayed into the room where the babies and children were being kept while their mothers prayed together their Ramadan prayers. Panicked mothers ran for their babies, crying for their children so they could flee from the gas that was burning their eyes and throats and lungs. She grabbed her youngest in her arms and grabbed the hand of her other daughter, moving with the others to exit the building and the irritating substance there.

"The paramedic said the young one was in shock, and gave her oxygen to help her breathe. The child couldn't stop sobbing.

"This didn't happen in some far away place -- but right here in Dayton, and to my friends. Many of the Iraqi refugees were praying together at the Mosque Friday evening. People that I know and love.

"I am hurt and angry. I tell her this is not America. She tells me this is not Heaven or Hell -- there are good and bad people everywhere.

"She tells me that her daughters slept with her last night, the little one in her arms and sobbing throughout the night. She tells me she is afraid, and will never return to the mosque, and I wonder what kind of country is this where people have to fear attending their place of worship?"

"The children come into the room, and tell me they want to leave America and return to Syria, where they had fled to from Iraq. They say they like me, ... , and other American friends -- but they are too afraid and want to leave. Should a 6 and 7 year old even have to contemplate the safety of their living situation?

"Did the anti-Muslim video circulating in the area have something to do with this incident, or is that just a bizarre coincidence? Who attacks women and children?

"What am I supposed to say to them? My words can't keep them safe from what is nothing less than terrorism, American style. Isn't losing loved ones, their homes, jobs, possessions and homeland enough? Is there no place where they can be safe?

"She didn't want me to leave her tonight, but it was after midnight, and I needed to get home and write this to my friends. Tell me -- tell me -- what am I supposed to say to them?"


When acting as a representative of Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF), the 501(c)3 non-profit organization that I work for, I cannot engage in political activities. The distribution of Obsession, however, although a political campaign scheme, clearly crosses over into the mission of MRFF. So, I'm going to make two statements here -- one in my capacity as MRFF's Research Director, and another as an individual whose disgust at the vile campaign tactics of John McCain's supporters completely boiled over when I opened up the email about children being gassed.

My statement as MRFF's Research Director:

The presidential campaign edition of the Obsession DVD, produced and currently being distributed by the Clarion Fund, carries the endorsement of the chair of the counter-terrorism department of the U.S. Naval War College, using the name and authority of an official U.S. military institution not only to validate an attack the religion of Islam, but to influence a political campaign. For these reasons, this endorsement has been included in MRFF's second lawsuit against the Department of Defense, which was filed on September 25 in the Federal District Court in Kansas.

My opinion as an individual and thoroughly appalled human being:

John McCain has a moral obligation to publicly censure the Clarion Fund; to denounce the inflammatory, anti-Muslim message of Obsession; and to do everything in his power to stop any further campaign activities by his supporters that have the potential to incite violence.



Lord Blackadder
Sep 29, 2008, 02:25 PM
I hope they find out who did it and throw the book at 'em, the scum. :mad:

scotthayes
Sep 29, 2008, 02:25 PM
This is sick and I'm sad to agree that had it been another religion it would have made the major news stations.

You have to question which sick b***** sent the DVD out in the newspapers.

iShater
Sep 29, 2008, 02:42 PM
This is sick and I'm sad to agree that had it been another religion it would have made the major news stations.

You have to question which sick b***** sent the DVD out in the newspapers.

I saw this last week: link. (http://www.antiwar.com/ips/gharib.php?articleid=13503)

:mad:

leekohler
Sep 29, 2008, 02:56 PM
This is sick and I'm sad to agree that had it been another religion it would have made the major news stations.

You have to question which sick b***** sent the DVD out in the newspapers.

This seems typical of Ohio these days.

Lord Blackadder
Sep 29, 2008, 03:33 PM
This seems typical of Ohio these days.

Not all of it. I was born and raised in Cleveland, and it's pretty cosmopolitan, despite its salt-of-the-earth image. Once you get out of the cities it gets a little...provincial...though.

mactastic
Sep 29, 2008, 03:44 PM
Good old domestic terrorism...

When you view your life as worth more than someone else's, anything is possible. But what kind of coward attacks children?

Thanatoast
Sep 29, 2008, 04:10 PM
So when do we start bombing Illinois to depose the Govenor?

Seriously, though, catch 'em and put 'em on trial.

(Remember trials? :sigh: )

Wotan31
Sep 29, 2008, 04:20 PM
I hope they find out who did it and throw the book at 'em, the scum. :mad:
x2 attacking women and children in a house of prayer is unacceptable. period. I hope they catch those responsible and give them some good jail time.

But what does the DVD have to do with it? :confused: Why did they even mention it in the article? The criminals to sprayed the irritant are responsible for their own actions. How does the article author know the criminals are "McCain supporters"? That's quite an absurd conclusion to jump to.

iShater
Sep 29, 2008, 04:40 PM
So when do we start bombing Illinois to depose the Govenor?

Seriously, though, catch 'em and put 'em on trial.

(Remember trials? :sigh: )

I must be missing something, come again?

Lord Blackadder
Sep 29, 2008, 04:43 PM
Oddly enough, A copy of this DVD just turned up in a pile of mail I'm sifting through. I think it's wrong to represent this "documentary" as remotely impartial in intent. It's clearly meant to scare us portray, Islam is inherently disposed towards violence and whatnot.

One could just as easily make a similar DVD with Christianity as its subject. Only the willfully blind or weak minded could fail to see that.

Lyle
Sep 29, 2008, 04:46 PM
But what does the DVD have to do with it? :confused: Why did they even mention it in the article? The criminals to sprayed the irritant are responsible for their own actions. How does the article author know the criminals are "McCain supporters"? That's quite an absurd conclusion to jump to.According to the article, the DVD is produced (or funded?) by the Clarion Fund (http://clarionfund.org/), a 501(c)3 that contributes to the McCain campaign.

nagromme
Sep 29, 2008, 04:54 PM
But what does the DVD have to do with it? :confused: Why did they even mention it in the article?.

We don't yet know that the criminals were inspired by the DVD that arrived just before the attack, but it's certainly valid to speculate. The article doesn't claim a proven connection, but it does raise the question:

Did the anti-Muslim video circulating in the area have something to do with this incident, or is that just a bizarre coincidence?

abijnk
Sep 29, 2008, 05:33 PM
So when do we start bombing Illinois to depose the Govenor?

Seriously, though, catch 'em and put 'em on trial.

(Remember trials? :sigh: )

:confused:

yg17
Sep 29, 2008, 07:06 PM
And if a Muslim did this to some Christian children, we'd never hear the end of it.

mkrishnan
Sep 29, 2008, 07:18 PM
I must be missing something, come again?

Oh, just say it. :D

FAIL!

I just received a copy of this racist, hate-mongering drivel in my mailbox today. These people are worse than AOL. :o

nbs2
Sep 29, 2008, 10:06 PM
I'd like to get a copy of this DVD - just to know what this is all about. But, I don't think the Clarion folks will bother trying to swing MD in their direction.

As for the actions there, I'm not surprised. The US has always had trouble accepting whatever fits outside of the accepted local mainstream. I don't expect this to end well at all. The only options that these folks face are all decidedly inferior to true freedom. Moving out of the area, confronting their neighbors, or absorbing the blows like Rocky Balboa all have their individual consequences that nobody should have to suffer.

thechidz
Sep 29, 2008, 10:15 PM
I don't understand why people have to be so retarded. Can't they pick up a book and learn to think for themselves?

.Andy
Sep 29, 2008, 10:24 PM
x2 attacking women and children in a house of prayer is unacceptable. period.
What has a "house of prayer" got to do with anything :confused:

bobber205
Sep 29, 2008, 11:57 PM
I hope who does this dies... and painfully. They are lower than a human being...

zap2
Sep 30, 2008, 12:03 AM
What has a "house of prayer" got to do with anything :confused:

Good call...made up stories doesn't make it bad, the "they are human beings" makes in bad.

thechidz
Sep 30, 2008, 12:15 AM
Not all of it. I was born and raised in Cleveland, and it's pretty cosmopolitan, despite its salt-of-the-earth image. Once you get out of the cities it gets a little...provincial...though.

unfortunately wisconsin can be very similar. but it depends on the community

SMM
Sep 30, 2008, 01:29 AM
I am so damn sick and tired of the hatred running amok in this country, the 'legitimate' instigators who refuse to accept any responsibility, the federal agencies who turn their backs on it, the MSM which simply ignores it, and the citizens who refuse to take any actions on their own. This would demand action, if it were against other group, except the Muslim people ( as others have already said. I am ashamed to call myself an American these days.

it5five
Sep 30, 2008, 03:20 AM
And if a Muslim did this to some Christian children, we'd never hear the end of it.

Yep. Hopefully we'll see this story picked up in the coming days and whoever did it will be found.

avigalante
Sep 30, 2008, 01:09 PM
And if a Muslim did this to some Christian children, we'd never hear the end of it.

Unfortunately, it's a very sad reality.

Yep. Hopefully we'll see this story picked up in the coming days and whoever did it will be found.

One can hope; but given the prejudice against Muslims in the media, I wouldn't be surprised should it not gain much movement/traction.

leekohler
Sep 30, 2008, 01:11 PM
Not all of it. I was born and raised in Cleveland, and it's pretty cosmopolitan, despite its salt-of-the-earth image. Once you get out of the cities it gets a little...provincial...though.

I grew up in the provincial part- between two corn fields. Cleveland is OK, but I'd simply rather not live anywhere near Ohio. ;)

http://watzman.wordpress.com/2006/11/24/hell-is-real/

Here's some lovely snapshots from my home state. The giant Jesus is actually just right outside Cincinnati, the other from Columbus:

iShater
Oct 2, 2008, 05:44 PM
I have never been to Cincinnati, lived in Ohio for a few years, and I honestly don't remember the "atmosphere" around there since I left 10+ years ago.

Aea
Oct 2, 2008, 06:31 PM
Wow, just unbelievable. It wouldn't surprise me if the perpetrator(s) will be labeled as "radicals" and "criminals" by most of the media, if this even becomes a big story. After all, we're fighting the terrorists over "there" so do don't have to fight them over "here."

iShater
Oct 2, 2008, 06:39 PM
Wow, just unbelievable. It wouldn't surprise me if the perpetrator(s) will be labeled as "radicals" and "criminals" by most of the media, if this even becomes a big story. After all, we're fighting the terrorists over "there" so do don't have to fight them over "here."

This reminds me of the 9/11 backlash. Which many people forgot ... or conveniently ignored. :rolleyes:

Wotan31
Oct 6, 2008, 08:52 AM
What has a "house of prayer" got to do with anything :confused:
Um, because that's where they were attacked. Did you read the article? :confused:

lugesm
Oct 6, 2008, 11:15 AM
I don't know anything about the facts here . . . except:

The HUFFINGTON POST is a notorious, radical left-wing pub, and it would be no surprise if this were all false or seriously misleading.

.Andy
Oct 6, 2008, 04:40 PM
Um, because that's where they were attacked. Did you read the article? :confused:
So it's OK to attack children outside of a house of prayer? Not quite as bad as attacking them in a house of prayer? Is a house of prayer the worst place you can attack a child?

it5five
Oct 6, 2008, 05:00 PM
I don't know anything about the facts here . . . except:

The HUFFINGTON POST is a notorious, radical left-wing pub, and it would be no surprise if this were all false or seriously misleading.

Maybe if you would have clicked on the link, you would have seen that the Huffington Post linked to the local news station website where they learned of it. Here it is, so you have no excuse not to read it. (http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2008/09/27/ddn092608evacweb.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=16)

synth3tik
Oct 6, 2008, 05:07 PM
Humm, I wonder why people hate the US, oh yeah it's because this type of thing is seen as acceptable by our standards.

People protesting the RNC are being threatened with charges of terrorism. The s***heads doing this will probably get a medal.