Say it ain't so, BO. [Archive]

mgguy

Oct 4, 2008, 01:19 AM

Given the clamor for candidates to make information about their education, health, and history publicly available, I was surprised to hear that several items of information on Obama the media and others have requested have not yet been made available (see list below). Say it ain't so, BO!

1. Occidental College records -- Not released
2. Columbia College records -- Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper -- 'not available'
4. Harvard College records -- Not released
5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released
6. Medical records -- Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule -- 'not available'
8. Law practice client list -- Not released
9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate - - Not released
10. Harvard Law Review articles published -- None
11. University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None
12. Record of baptism-- Not released or 'not available'
13. Illinois State Senate records--'not available'

CorvusCamenarum

Oct 4, 2008, 03:44 AM

8. Law practice client list -- Not released
Isn't that privileged information?

12. Record of baptism-- Not released or 'not available'
Why is this relevant?

.Andy

Oct 4, 2008, 03:49 AM

Why is this relevant?
Because it's proof he's a muslim ARGH!

edit: looking forward to you posting more unchecked chain emails in the future mgguy. They're great.

powerbuddy

Oct 4, 2008, 03:53 AM

Because it's proof he's a muslim ARGH!

edit: looking forward to you posting more unchecked chain emails in the future mgguy. They're great.

Why don't the mods here delete such kind of posts?

Edit: mkrishnan...I hope you are taking notes!! :mad:

és:

Oct 4, 2008, 03:58 AM

Didn't his medical records appear on The Daily Show a few weeks back?

.Andy

Oct 4, 2008, 04:03 AM

Why don't the mods here delete such kind of posts?

Edit: mkrishnan...I hope you are taking notes!! :mad:
I don't think there's any need to delete what's obviously a shallow chain email designed to scare people. Better to just ignore it/discuss it/call it for what it is. Either way it's best not to let it get to you - it's what mgguy is trying to do. Check his PRSI post history if you're unaware of his history.

eji

Oct 4, 2008, 04:05 AM

Given the slimy netherworld in which the McCain campaign operates, I can understand why Obama might be reluctant to release some of these documents such as the college records. They'll seize on anything that looks the slightest bit amiss and magnify it to suggest that he's Muslim, radical, communist, whatever. Just look at what they did with his Bill Ayers "connections", which was a matter of mountains and molehills (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/us/politics/04ayers.html).

Keep in mind that McCain only released his own medical records for an hour. An hour. Has he released all the personal records that his supporters are demanding from Obama?

és:

Oct 4, 2008, 04:08 AM

Keep in mind that McCain only released his own medical records for an hour. An hour.

Did you see how long they were! He's being kept alive by robotics and some Uranium based compound. He's actually very toxic.

.Andy

Oct 4, 2008, 04:08 AM

I don't see why any candidate should release their medical records period. Nothing could be more private and not fit for the world to troll through. I can understand why people might be interested in seeing them, but they are really none of our business at all.

Iscariot

Oct 4, 2008, 06:46 AM

Did you see how long they were! He's being kept alive by robotics and some Uranium based compound. He's actually very toxic.

This is precisely why every comedic writer, comedian and aspiring comic is going to be secretly voting for the McCain/Palin ticket. The material practically writes itself.

Anuba

Oct 4, 2008, 07:19 AM

This is precisely why every comedic writer, comedian and aspiring comic is going to be secretly voting for the McCain/Palin ticket. The material practically writes itself.
Yeah, Tina Fey had a line like that in 30 Rock: "I will tell all my friends that I'm voting for Barack Obama, but I will secretly vote for John McCain."

The scary part is that she said that in April of 2007, over a year before anyone knew that those two would win the primaries. The bets were probably on Giuliani vs Hillary at the time.

mactastic

Oct 4, 2008, 12:29 PM

His birth certificate has been released.

Now, when will McCain release his POW records that talk about exactly what he did during those years in prison?

mgguy

Oct 4, 2008, 01:09 PM

His birth certificate has been released.

Now, when will McCain release his POW records that talk about exactly what he did during those years in prison?

I agree with you, those records should be released if they haven't been, unless they are considered classified. But I doubt you would get much on how he reacted to interrogators, since they probably didn't take copious notes and probably had a slightly biased point of view, as his captors.

Chaszmyr

Oct 4, 2008, 01:15 PM

I see no reason why most of this stuff needs to be released...

Peace

Oct 4, 2008, 01:59 PM

I see no reason why most of this stuff needs to be released...

I see no reason this discussion is here.:rolleyes:

aethelbert

Oct 4, 2008, 02:36 PM

Now, when will McCain release his POW records that talk about exactly what he did during those years in prison?
Call the Vietnamese government. I'm sure that they'd be absolutely pleased to give you their records of torturing foreign servicemen.

leekohler

Oct 4, 2008, 02:47 PM

This is stupid. Can this thread be wastelanded, please?

wongulous

Oct 4, 2008, 03:25 PM

Client records would never be released. Birth cert is already released/verified. Found his voting records/schedule. Two weeks ago UIC (http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/08/illinois_releasing_barack_obam.html) released his records and it was all over every rag, even Fox News. The rest is questionably relevant such as Selective Service because this was already verified in order for him to gain his Senate position (duh), and obviously his undergraduate studies were pored over by Harvard, his later employers, his constituents, etc etc. Come on.

SMM

Oct 4, 2008, 03:29 PM

This is stupid. Can this thread be wastelanded, please?

Concur - please whack it!

iSaint

Oct 4, 2008, 03:59 PM

Ugg

Oct 4, 2008, 04:08 PM

It's only stupid because it's your candidate, and makes you blind to expected procedures. Releasing these records would help us better understand who the mystery-man Barack Obama is. There seems to be so many questions about his ethnicity, faith base, life as a child, etc.

His ethnicity? His father was from Kenya and his mother was from Kansas.

His father wasn't born into a muslim family but converted.

Any more questions on that point?

Could you please explain what a "faith base" is? Sounds like a limbaughism.

What does his childhood have anything to do with it? Are you implying that he's responsible for the decisions his parents made?

At least Obama was born in the US...

Mike Teezie

Oct 4, 2008, 04:20 PM

iSaint

Oct 4, 2008, 04:23 PM

If Barack Obama is a mystery man to you, then you simply don't want to know him.

Oh, please. It's all what you want to know about the candidates. I don't vote candidates, I vote platform. And I'm much more scared of the fear-mongering that goes on with the liberal platform than the conservative. It's just a lesser of two evils. (evil being the low-lifes that are politicians/lawyers)

calculus

Oct 4, 2008, 04:24 PM

If this kind of nonsense is any real kind of insight into how the American people choose their president then God help us all...

iSaint

Oct 4, 2008, 04:26 PM

If this kind of nonsense is any real kind of insight into how the American people choose their president then God help us all...

Not clear on what you mean, but a person is only as good as those around him/her. To tell me one person is going to run the country on his or her specific beliefs and just not believable. Money is what makes the world go 'round!

Mike Teezie

Oct 4, 2008, 04:27 PM

Oh, please. It's all what you want to know about the candidates. I don't vote candidates, I vote platform. And I'm much more scared of the fear-mongering that goes on with the liberal platform than the conservative. It's just a lesser of two evils. (evil being the low-lifes that are politicians/lawyers)

How does that show that Barack Obama is a "mystery" man?

iSaint

Oct 4, 2008, 04:43 PM

How does that show that Barack Obama is a "mystery" man?

Just like any politician, he's being painted for who his marketing firm wants you to believe he is. If we have actual facts from his life, we know more about the real person. He does have a traditionally Muslim name, and no one is real sure about his racial makeup...not to mention the hate-mongering that goes on at his (former?) church.

Palin is open about her life, but the liberals still can't stand her even though she should be celebrated for being a strong, successful woman.

it5five

Oct 4, 2008, 05:06 PM

Just like any politician, he's being painted for who his marketing firm wants you to believe he is. If we have actual facts from his life, we know more about the real person. He does have a traditionally Muslim name, and no one is real sure about his racial makeup...not to mention the hate-mongering that goes on at his (former?) church.

Palin is open about her life, but the liberals still can't stand her even though she should be celebrated for being a strong, successful woman.

People are clear about his racial makeup. We know who his father is, and we know who his mother is? How many generations back do you demand to know his racial makeup?

Traditional Muslim name ≠ Muslim.

Sarah Palin isn't open about anything. She refuses to take questions in a press-conference style setting. She doesn't give a clear answer to anything. Not to mention the hate-mongering that goes on at her church, while she is present, I might add.

Ntombi

Oct 4, 2008, 05:10 PM

Just like any politician, he's being painted for who his marketing firm wants you to believe he is. If we have actual facts from his life, we know more about the real person. He does have a traditionally Muslim name, and no one is real sure about his racial makeup...not to mention the hate-mongering that goes on at his (former?) church.

Palin is open about her life, but the liberals still can't stand her even though she should be celebrated for being a strong, successful woman.

Are you serious?

He was named after his Kenyan father; he's technically a junior, though since his entire contact with his father since age two was one month, he doesn't use the suffix, for obvious reasons.

The only thing "mysterious" about his racial makeup is on the white side. Gee, what are they? :rolleyes:

As for his former church, I'm thinking you may not want to go there, especially since Palin has talked adoringly about how Pastor Muthi (so?) prayed over her, referencing the time that he prayed for her to win the governorship and to protect us all from witches. :eek: puhlease.

Lau

Oct 4, 2008, 05:18 PM

Just like any politician, he's being painted for who his marketing firm wants you to believe he is. If we have actual facts from his life, we know more about the real person. He does have a traditionally Muslim name, and no one is real sure about his racial makeup...not to mention the hate-mongering that goes on at his (former?) church.

Palin is open about her life, but the liberals still can't stand her even though she should be celebrated for being a strong, successful woman.

Firstly I'm struggling to see what the problem would be with him being a Muslim, even if he was. :confused: And why does his racial makeup matter?

Secondly, from what I've seen Palin is completely out of her depth – what's the use of being allegedly open about your life if you can't function as a politician, let alone vice president or president?

I keep seeing thread after thread regarding this election bitching about the most irrelevant issues possible. It seems that a lot of people have their priorities in the most bizarre places.