View Full Version : New oasis Album-As good if not better than Morning Glory
needthephone
Oct 4, 2008, 11:06 PM
I brought Dig Out Your Soul yesterday from JB HiFi in Sydney.
Not expecting much really as their last four albums have been very average.
But honestly, its a belter, absolutely brilliant.
A Must must buy,
It is already one of my favourite albums of all time and i don't say that lightly.
I have a knack of picking the classic albums and believe me this is one.
The John Lennon Tribute "I'm Outta Time" moves me to tears.
I can see why The Times (THE UK newspaper ) said its their best since britpop and Alan McGee siad its as good as Beggers Banquet or Revolver.
Honestly I promise you will not be dissapointed.
hexonxonx
Oct 4, 2008, 11:30 PM
I downloaded it earlier but I haven't listened to it yet.
Topher15
Oct 5, 2008, 12:49 AM
Great album - best song is I'm Outta Time. Wouldn't go as far and say it's their best. I'd put them in this order:
The Masterplan
Definitely Maybe
Morning Glory
Don't Believe The Truth
Dig Out Your Soul
Be Here Know
Heathen Chemistry
Standing On The Shoulders Of Giants
needthephone
Oct 5, 2008, 01:49 AM
Its the only oasis album in 10 years Iv'e being playing over and over again.
It's amazing. I honestly think in my opinion as good as Morning Glory. MG has a lot of filler like She's Electric, Digsy's Diner etc. Dig Out Your Soul has just maybe one filler " Aint Got Nothing On Me" but even that has a simple snarling charm
No I absolutely love it to death.
I haven't really liked their last four albums and I have maybe played them three times each as I just wasn't compelled to play them again.
This new one has so many potential monster hit singles
Bag It Up,
I'm Outta Time (IMO as good as Wonderwall which I always felt was lacking something)
High horse Lady,
Waiting for The Rapture (brilliant)
The Turning
Soldier On
In fact all the songs are great and its such a diverse album. I really can not fault it.
You listen to it and think wow this IS quality. Now I realise what I saw in this band 10 years ago.
For me one of my top 5 favourites of all time.
Yes. THAT good.
needthephone
Oct 5, 2008, 07:26 AM
Just in case you are thinking I'm talking rubbish, lots of reviews are saying the same thing from the Times, The Observer, BBC and this from the Sunday Herald.
This is MUST have album
Long written off as 1990s leftovers whose contracts outlasted their talents, Noel and Liam Gallagher are back with a surprisingly powerful new album By Paul Dalgarno
So is this the start of a much bigger, baggier Oasis? After just a few listens to their new album Dig Out Your Soul, it sounds remarkably like it - and that comes as a genuine surprise. Noel Gallagher describes track two, The Turning, as The Stone Roses meets The Stooges (which is pretty accurate), and the ambitious, non-Oasis-sounding Falling Down as "the kind of song I've wanted to write for years". His intention for album seven (that's right, you may have missed a few) was to "write music that had a groove". Reviews to date have been gushing, fuelling the resurgence of interest in the band that began with 2005's Don't Believe The Truth. But clearly, if things are going right these days, they must have gone wrong somewhere in the past - or for the entire decade between 1995 and 2005, to be precise.
The band's new-found conviction on the single Lyla in 2005 was like waking up from an Oasis dream in which nothing of consequence had really happened for years. Liam getting his teeth knocked out in a Munich bar brawl in 2002? Ach, who cared? By the late 1990s the band was becoming too much like someone on cocaine at a party; someone who had been on cocaine, and at the party, for too long. Time was when the brothers Gallagher were everywhere: Liam and Patsy's arm-tattooing years, Meg Mathews and Noel's divorce, the spats and cancelled tour dates - all gone now.
Cynics will tell you that Noel's mojo was sucked, via the nervous system, into Tony Blair's egotron during their infamous Downing Street handshake in 1997 and that, after this, his songs were never the same. Whatever the reason, things changed. Definitely Maybe (1994) was the fasting-selling UK debut ever at the time of its release, shifting more than 7.5 million copies worldwide. Its follow-up (What's The Story) Morning Glory? sold more than 18m copies and remains the third highest-selling album in UK chart history, behind Queen's Greatest Hits and The Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band.
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But by the time of Be Here Now (1997), the wheels were badly rusted. The album shifted 420,000 units on its first day and was hastily described as a classic, but, more tellingly, none of its tracks was included in the band's 2006 Sony swansong compilation Stop The Clocks. In 2007, Q magazine described the third album as "the moment when Oasis, their judgment clouded by drugs and blanket adulation, ran aground on their own sky-high self-belief". Its bloated sound was down, according to studio producer Owen Morris at the time, to "massive amounts of drugs. Bad vibes. **** recordings".
Oasis had become the last slice of cake at a party, with other people's fingermarks clearly visible in the marzipan. Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants (2000) and Heathen Chemistry (2002) were both chart-toppers, but will be remembered as the revolving-door albums: founding members Paul McGuigan and Paul "Bonehead" Arthurs left the band during sessions for the first, and had been replaced, not entirely comfortably, by the second. Oasis had lost their swagger - and if there's one band that can't lose it's swagger, it's Oasis.
Liam's angry stance on stage - his hands behind his back as if they've been tied for an execution - was even wearing thin, and that was a real shame. The look (most recently employed to good effect by drug lord Stringer Bell in the hit HBO crime series The Wire) has always communicated the band's central thesis: you could lunge towards me, grab me by the knees and headbutt me clean in the maracas, but you won't. And that's partially because, even at their worst, Oasis have never been terrible - they just needed to grow up. In the century past they were embraced by, and embraced, rock elder statesman Paul Weller, but their own transition to an older and wiser version of themselves has been plagued by inconsistency.
The first sign that they were over the worst was Don't Believe The Truth (2005). Peter de Havilland, producer and ideas man for the record, has described it as a "make or break album", adding: "In the industry, a whispering campaign was in full swing. Oasis had lost their edge and the future of the band was on a knife edge."
The album sold 6m copies and triggered a worldwide tour to 1.7m people in 26 countries. Dig Out Your Soul, they hope, will do the same. Noel describes it as "the album we've been leading up to since Gem Archer and Andy Bell joined the band in 1999". Clearly, it has taken some time to incorporate those members - and still the personnel keeps changing.
Drummers have been a peculiar Achilles heel for the Gallaghers. Founding member Tony McCarroll was booted out before the release of What's The Story; his replacement Alan White served for nearly a decade until an argument with Liam forced him out in 2004. Much of the bombast with guitars - on the first album especially, but not exclusively - was, one imagines, a means of over-compensating for the (sometimes shockingly) poor drums.
That problem seemed to have been solved in 2005 with Zak Starkey, son of Ringo, who replaced White on Don't Believe The Truth. But Starkey quit following the recording sessions for Dig Out Your Soul, and has now been replaced by Chris Sharrock, formerly of The La's, World Party and, for the past 12 years, Robbie Williams's backing band.
It's a shame Starkey had to go: his drums are the standout instrument on the new album. And, of course, there was his father, Ringo. The Gallaghers have always worn their Beatles obsession on their sleeves. Books could be written on how little they resemble their idols musically, but there are several similarities: not least their chart success with two different lead vocalists, and not least those Beatles melodies and chord progressions, lifted so blatantly you assume it's being done on purpose, without any deliberate malice. Also mirroring The Beatles, there has been an increasing democratisation of the band's songwriting duties. Originally, it was agreed that Noel would write the songs and lead the band, no questions asked, but that rule has been slipping for a while. The lighter workload bodes well for Noel on the new album: there are still superfluous lyrics about "merry-go-rounds" and "revolutions in yer 'ed", but fewer than there have been for a good while.
Opening track Bag It Up sets out Noel's stall: psychedelic harmonies, thumping drums, Liam bellowing that "the freaks are rising up through the floor". (Get Off Your) High Horse Lady is bluesy enough to blow the stitching from the Confederate flag; Waiting For The Rapture lifts The Doors' Five To One guitar riff and runs with it. Guitarist Gem Archer wheels George Harrison's sitar out of retirement for To Be Where There's Life - a slice of Madchester meets the Middle East with a baggy-assed bass line that would have Bez from the Happy Mondays popping moves until kingdom come. Bass player Andy Bell, on The Nature Of Reality, has Liam singing about "pure subjective fantasy", and then there are the songs written by Liam himself.
There are three on this album, which indicates a growing belief by Noel in his abilities. Little James, from Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants, was the first time Liam had written a song for an Oasis album, and, as Noel told Q recently: "Little James isn't the greatest song in the world. In fact it's one of the ****ing shittest." Liam's first track on Dig Out Your Soul, I'm Outta Time, is also the best. By far. A piano-driven ballad (not three words you would necessarily associate with Oasis) it offers surely one of the best vocal performances of Liam's career (undercut with a sample from a John Lennon radio interview recorded two days before his death in 1980). Liam also wrote the album closer, the drearyish Soldier On - a melancholy sentiment if ever there was one.
For some time Liam has played home bird to Noel's night owl, expressing in recent interviews his love for SpongeBob SquarePants and The Weakest Link. He runs 10 miles every morning from his house on Hampstead Heath and enjoys spending time with his two boys: Lennon, who lives with his ex, Patsy Kensit, and Gene, who lives with Liam and his second wife, Nicole Appleton of All Saints. The partying is not what it once was.
Noel, by comparison, is a party animal, turning up everywhere from nightclubs to BBC Radio 5 Live, on which he regularly airs his opinions. But for Noel too, the stimulus has changed. He gave up cocaine in June 1998, he told Q recently, after watching a World Cup match and feeling unwell. "I've been ****ed on drugs before," he told the magazine. "I've been slapped awake by Bobby Gillespie in my house ... This was something completely different."
Gem Archer describes both Gallaghers as "beyond positive people", which has never got in the way of their famous feuds. Lately, they have said they never talk to each other outside the band, which doesn't seem outwith the realms of possibility. In 1996 Liam heckled Noel during an MTV Unplugged Oasis set, having backed out of his singing duties shortly before the performance; in 2000, there was the tour-threatening punch-up between the two in Barcelona, supposedly over one of Liam's stray comments regarding the legitimacy of Noel's daughter Anais.
The spikes are still out, but these days the brothers are less willing to go in for the kill. Following their recent media battle with Jay-Z - who headlined, controversially, this year's Glastonbury Festival - Noel admitted openly that both parties profited through publicity from the supposed spat. It seems a lifetime since his infamous comment (later retracted) at the height of the band's Britpop rivalry with Blur, that he hoped Damon Albarn and Alex James of Blur would "catch Aids and die". The message has been softened by Liam, if only slightly, for contemporaries such as Coldplay and Radiohead. "I don't hate them," he told The Times recently. "I don't wish they had accidents."
The band's place in British music history was cemented with an Outstanding Contribution To Music award at the Brits last year. Definitely Maybe and What's The Story were subsequently voted the number one and two best British albums of all time by a HMV and Q magazine poll in February, and Noel was dubbed by NME recently as "the wisest man in rock". Both brothers, whether it's Liam in The Times recently on "chav" culture ("they look like dicks but fair play to them") or Noel in the NME on knife crime ("If you're not in the kitchen chopping a tomato, you're ********** going to jail."), have found a certain stride. And in the midst of all this, the new album.
The Gallaghers have discovered the balance between burying the hatchet and staying angry: you find the groove, and build from there. You maybe thought it would never happen again for Oasis: an album to bring back the doubters and, hopefully, start a few more fights.
NewMacGirl
Oct 5, 2008, 06:02 PM
I agree its excellent. Very catchy songs and I'm Outta Time is achingly beautiful.
It should be a US number 1 as it is that good.
Iv'e always liked oasis but I thought they'd split up years ago. Glad they are still around if this is the music they are making.
MatLane
Oct 5, 2008, 06:04 PM
Might grow on me, still not a fan of it much.
It's alright
Still hate there attitude though
rockosmodurnlif
Oct 5, 2008, 10:42 PM
Great album - best song is I'm Outta Time. Wouldn't go as far and say it's their best. I'd put them in this order:
The Masterplan
Definitely Maybe
Morning Glory
Don't Believe The Truth
Dig Out Your Soul
Be Here Know
Heathen Chemistry
Standing On The Shoulders Of Giants
I don't think we can count the Masterplan, isn't it a B-sides collection?
Topher15
Oct 6, 2008, 12:54 AM
I don't think we can count the Masterplan, isn't it a B-sides collection?
Yeah, it b-sides, but it is in my view their best album (or at least tied to DM).
needthephone
Oct 6, 2008, 01:09 AM
my order
Masterplan or Stop The Clocks not counted
1Definetly Maybe
2 Dig Out Your Soul= Morning Glory (M G has too much filler )
7 Don't Believe The Truth
Then I don't count the others although I have them all
Topher15
Oct 6, 2008, 01:37 AM
my order
Masterplan or Stop The Clocks not counted
1Definetly Maybe
2 Dig Out Your Soul= Morning Glory (M G has too much filler )
7 Don't Believe The Truth
Then I don't count the others although I have them all
STC doesn't count as it is just a greatest hits, but MP is original music.
needthephone
Oct 6, 2008, 03:54 AM
I suppose your'e right. The Masterpaln s all B Sides so OK, I'd place it same as
Morning Glory and Dig Out Your Soul but below Definetly Maybe.
I can't separate them which is great as oasis are making music as good as they were 10 years ago.
Just forget about the last 10 years in between...
LiveForever
Oct 8, 2008, 10:47 AM
What an amazing album, I picked it up today (good old CD) and I love it.
Agree best they have done since Morning Glory, no doubt about it.
Its selling well across the world, No 1 Uk, No 3 in the US so this looks like it will be another oasis breakthrough.
Its The American Idiot for these times as the lyrics resonate with what is going on at the moment (or me just reading in too much!!)
The closing song is called "Soldier On" which is what wev'e got to do now.
A classic album and a must buy
Its great fun and I have it on over and over.(I don't takethe lyrics seriously just an observation whilst listening to it for the 5th time!!)
Falling Down
The summer sun
It blows my mind
It's falling down on all that I've ever known
Time to kiss the world goodbye
Falling down on all that I've ever known
Is all that I've ever known
A dying scream
It makes no sound
Calling out to all that I've ever known
Here am I, lost and found
Calling out to all
We live a dying dream
If you know what I mean
All that I've ever known
It's all that I've ever known
Catch the wind that breaks the butterfly
I cried the rain that fills the ocean wide
I tried to talk with God to no avail
Calling my name from out of nowhere
I said "If you won't save me, please don't waste my time"
Catch the wind that breaks the butterfly
I cried the rain that fills the ocean wide
I tried to talk with God to no avail
Calling my name from out of nowhere
I said "If you won't save me, please don't waste my time"
The summer sun
It blows my mind
It's falling down on all that I've ever known
Time to kiss the world goodbye
Falling down on all that I've ever known
Is all that I've ever known
To Be Where There's Life :
Day's turning to night
Pray for the light
Let me come through
Let me take you away over the line
Everyone falling
Everyone falling
Dreamers come crawling
Neighbours jump walling
Let me come through
Let me take you away over the line
And we're away to be where there's life
Shake the will to comply
Fears don't try me
Tears don't cry me
And we're away to be where there's life
When we come call out
Everything's sold out
TV just closed down
There's nothing on the news now
Fears don't try me
Tears don't cry me
We're away to be where there's life
Be where there's life
Dig out your soul, cos here we go
We gotta move, it's what we do
Let me come through
Let me take you away to be where there's life
To be where there's life
Take you over the light
Under the signs
In through locked doors to secret floors
Where we've lost 'em before
Saladinos
Oct 8, 2008, 11:16 AM
Love the album. Good work by Oasis.
Karpfish
Oct 9, 2008, 11:45 AM
Amazing album. Bag it up is a classic oasis track. Still, I don't think anything could ever beat Morning Glory. IMO the most polular Oasis songs, not the best but certainly up there, are Wonderwall and Champagne Supernova. Roll With it is also up there, and I absolutely love that song. Dig Out Your Soul is amazing
rockosmodurnlif
Oct 9, 2008, 08:09 PM
STC doesn't count as it is just a greatest hits, but MP is original music.
The Masterplan is still a compilation record. There were all previously released songs. It's not new material. It's a best of b-sides release. But thats all just semantics anyway.
Topher15
Oct 9, 2008, 08:17 PM
The Masterplan is still a compilation record. There were all previously released songs. It's not new material. It's a best of b-sides release. But thats all just semantics anyway.
Yeah, b-sides made into an album. Which is why it counts. It's different from a compilation of other album tracks.
Schtumple
Oct 9, 2008, 09:14 PM
Might grow on me, still not a fan of it much.
It's alright
Still hate there attitude though
I love their attitude...
At what point did rock and roll turn into this pathetic shell of a genre where you had to become polite, there's being arrogant (over priding yourself), then there's the "Towers of London" pretentious insanely cocky b*stard arrogant, Oasis, well, the Gallaghers fit the former and are the perfect essence of british arrogance and pride.
And hey, it's rock and roll man, you've gotta be arrogant or else you're just another over produced pre-packaged record label approved 13 year old girl lovin' band...
redgaz26
Oct 10, 2008, 12:51 PM
I really love oasis, have done since DM but I cannot get into this album at all!
will have to give it a few more listens!
the Masterplan is just the best album ever, most bands would kill for they songs on an album and it's Oasis B-sides!!
going to see them on 5th November - sure to be fireworks:cool:;)
redmeister
Oct 13, 2008, 08:27 PM
man, keep hearing good things about this. will have to check it out!
raztro
Oct 15, 2008, 01:35 PM
plz delete
redmeister
Oct 15, 2008, 07:42 PM
aaaand just heard it... pretty solid stuff agreed
redgaz26
Oct 26, 2008, 08:59 PM
I really love oasis, have done since DM but I cannot get into this album at all!
will have to give it a few more listens!
the Masterplan is just the best album ever, most bands would kill for they songs on an album and it's Oasis B-sides!!
going to see them on 5th November - sure to be fireworks:cool:;)
I can now say i love this album only a week and a bit left till i see them cant wait:D
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