Give me

[WhySoSerious]

- mms
- video recording
- copy/paste
- ability to turn off sms pop-up notifications (with or w/out locking the phone)
- sms forwarding
- ability to send emails thru MobileMe using my created aliases and not just my master account

thanks

i'm growing tired of these very, very sub-par updates they roll out....utterly tired of them...

[sr5878]

http://www.cellfanatic.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/rim_blackberry_thunder_9500_series2.jpg

is this what you wanted?

we're not apple... complain to them. there are a million threads on this topic... do a search. :)

[mobilehaathi]

Yeah, I'm thinking we're not the place to complain about things we can't fix.:D

[Flhusky]

- mms
- video recording
- copy/paste
- ability to turn off sms pop-up notifications (with or w/out locking the phone)
- sms forwarding
- ability to send emails thru MobileMe using my created aliases and not just my master account

thanks

i'm growing tired of these very, very sub-par updates they roll out....utterly tired of them...

Swirley MMS
Cydia Recorder
Jailbrake App (Can't remember the name) limited use.
*Would be nice
*whatever
*would be nice, esp. since they denied the gMail app that would allow that.


Over all change of this happening w/ :apple: Slim

[kornyboy]

Wirelessly posted (iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.18.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.1 Mobile/5F136 Safari/525.20)

I don't think that the updates are subpar. I think they have made huge strides toward stability with each update. Stability to me is far more important that these other things. Apple has to prioritize the things they update or we would never see an update.

Don't get me wrong, I would like to see many of the items you listed. I just think that labeling the updates as subpar is a bit inaccurate.

[WhySoSerious]

[snip]

is this what you wanted?

we're not apple... complain to them. there are a million threads on this topic... do a search. :)

nope, that's not what i wanted. thanks though for posting the pics. I already listed what i wanted in the OP. please re-read if you're confused. :)

now there are a million +1.

[deimos256]

id love to see sms notifications turned off, i dont like them interfering with apps and its not nice for suggestive texts to light up the whole screen in front of people

[richard.mac]

give me, give me, give me… people are so demanding these days! :mad: be thankful that you are actually getting features in mobile software updates rather than stability and security updates.

my buddy just could not get over the new features in 2.1 after i re-unlocked his iPhone from 1.1.4. he said not only did i fix it, i made it even more enjoyable!

[hexonxonx]

I don't think we'll be seeing any of those items on your wish list. Why?

It's been over a year since the iPhone was first released and we still don't have them. I could be wrong however.

[mcdj]

Wow, I had no idea people want MMS! Thanks.

[WhySoSerious]

give me, give me, give me… people are so demanding these days! :mad: be thankful that you are actually getting features in mobile software updates rather than stability and security updates.

!

really? i didn't realize i was being so demanding! silly me for wanting my iphone being capable of doing some of the most primitive things in the cell phone market!

[WhySoSerious]

Wow, I had no idea people want MMS! Thanks.

yep, great feature!

as someone else pointed out in another thread reply....

saying MMS is dead and to just email who you want to send a picture to, then shouldn't the same logic be applied to SMS? Instead of SMS-ing someone, just email them what you want to say.

same thing.

fix it apple. fix it.

[alFR]

http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html :rolleyes:

[Hls811]

- ability to turn off sms pop-up notifications (with or w/out locking the phone)


Jailbrake and get either iBlacklist or Kate.. Both will do this.

[Brandon Heat]

some of those things you knew weren't on the phone.. You were never promised MMS... etc...

[cellocello]

Give you ... or what?

[WhySoSerious]

http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html :rolleyes:

you probably felt really witty for posting that, huh...even with your little :rolleyes:

sorry to ruin the fun, but i already submitted to them. this post is just....eh...a follow-up or another means to a hopeful end. :rolleyes:

[Randman]

sorry to ruin the fun, but i already submitted to them. this post is just....eh...a follow-up or another means to a hopeful end. :rolleyes:

Which is why we needed another thread about this.

[The Governor]

Swirley MMS


not even while jailbroken can you have MMS, with AT&T anyway

lengthy discussion on this here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=564844)

[scaredpoet]

id love to see sms notifications turned off, i dont like them interfering with apps and its not nice for suggestive texts to light up the whole screen in front of people

Then tell people not to send you suggestive texts? Everyone I know who sends me a text is well aware that if they send something to me during work hours, my coworkers are likely to see it. And if they send something inappropriate, there will be hell to pay.

The notifications are no different in behavior from other phones I've used. The point of an SMS is that you see it right away.

[kickpush]

Then tell people not to send you suggestive texts? Everyone I know who sends me a text is well aware that if they send something to me during work hours, my coworkers are likely to see it. And if they send something inappropriate, there will be hell to pay.

The notifications are no different in behavior from other phones I've used. The point of an SMS is that you see it right away.


i disagree with everything you said.

[sr5878]

hey troll, quit moaning and jailbreak. making demands on macrumors isn't going to get you anywhere.

[WhySoSerious]

hey troll, quit moaning and jailbreak. making demands on macrumors isn't going to get you anywhere.

why would i jailbreak...that voids my warranty. sheesh...you need to think before speaking next time.

[WhySoSerious]

Then tell people not to send you suggestive texts? Everyone I know who sends me a text is well aware that if they send something to me during work hours, my coworkers are likely to see it. And if they send something inappropriate, there will be hell to pay.

The notifications are no different in behavior from other phones I've used. The point of an SMS is that you see it right away.

you're wrong; nuff said.

[scaredpoet]

you're wrong; nuff said.

Why, because you like receiveing dirty texts? :)

[Tallest Skil]

why would i jailbreak...that voids my warranty.

If. You're. Caught.

Just restore before giving it to Apple.

[WhySoSerious]

If. You're. Caught.

Just restore before giving it to Apple.

it's been stated on these forums that jailbreaking writes a file to your phone, in that, even if you restore, it won't remove said file.

apple runs a diagnostic to pick up this file...thus voiding your warranty.

no thanks

[WhySoSerious]

Why, because you like receiveing dirty texts? :)

yes, i do. who doesn't? you telling me you don't want your significant other flirting with you? flirting is the spark of love my friend.

anyway, the point isn't about dirty text msgs, it's the fact that ANY type of text message or email or what not should be construed as private information for only the owner of the phone to see.

if you haven't noticed, most people fall back on text messages more than email or even calling someone. they use it for interoffice communication, business, ice breaking, updates, security, sending for help, and even flirting.

there should be more consideration and privacy built into the SMS application, than haphazardly just tossing up every SMS you get on the main screen for anyone to see. if it really was the "best way" to deliver a text message.....then why hasn't it ever been done before with other phones? because it's a stupid practice. everyone....and i mean EVERYONE else just puts up a simple icon and a *ding* sound to aleart the user to a text.....they don't plaster it all over your phone....like apple does.

[curmudgen]

Why why why are you all still feeding the trolls?

[Hutch1]

Get a phone that has the features that you want, it's just a phone.

If your phone doesn't work that's one thing, but to complain about features that aren't included and never were promised, basically says that you are whining about not doing your home work and buying a device that meets your needs.

[bluenoise]

Thank God we have another thread like this...The first several thousand of them seemed to just go nowhere. But there's something special about this one that I just know will reap incredible dividends.

Thank you so much to the OP for starting this thread! Yay!

[Samarium]

OP, if the product doesn't suit your needs, don't buy it.

[aristobrat]

but to complain about features that aren't included and never were promised, basically says that you are whining about not doing your home work and buying a device that meets your needs.
His post history on MacRumors says even more. ;)

[The General]

it's been stated on these forums that jailbreaking writes a file to your phone, in that, even if you restore, it won't remove said file.

apple runs a diagnostic to pick up this file...thus voiding your warranty.

no thanks

Wrong. Now you're just trolling. This whole thread is ridiculous. :rolleyes:

[WhySoSerious]

Wrong. Now you're just trolling. This whole thread is ridiculous. :rolleyes:

why do all close-minde people think you're "trolling" if you post something they disagree with?

in regard to the jailbreak/void warranty.....post 26 is what i was referring to. not sure if it's true, but i'd rather not chance it.

here ya go! (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=569593)

:)

[bluenoise]

why do all close-minde people think you're "trolling" if you post something they disagree with?

in regard to the jailbreak/void warranty.....post 26 is what i was referring to. not sure if it's true, but i'd rather not chance it.

here ya go! (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=569593)

:)

It's one thing to post something folks don't agree with. It's another to post the same tired critiques of the forum's main subject knowing it will do nothing but cause the reactions seen here.

[aristobrat]

why do all close-minde people think you're "trolling" if you post something they disagree with?
In regards to trolling, the number of threads you've started on MacRumors that have ended up in the Wasteland because of your "posting style" pretty much sums up where the perceived issue is.

in regard to the jailbreak/void warranty.....post 26 is what i was referring to. not sure if it's true, but i'd rather not chance it.

here ya go! (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=569593)
The post you're referring to is an utter joke. It's not first-hand. And the second-hand observer even said (in regards to the jail-broken iPhone and its owner) "So the cydia and winterboard apps were not visible. Now he could have just hidden them with the POOF app that hides apps. He didnt seem like the sharpest tool in the shed." :rolleyes:

[Eso]

Why, because you like receiveing dirty texts? :)

*Sends text message*

(. Y .)

*giggle giggle*

[ntrigue]

it's been stated on these forums that jailbreaking writes a file to your phone, in that, even if you restore, it won't remove said file.

apple runs a diagnostic to pick up this file...thus voiding your warranty.

no thanks

WRONG. I passed their diagnostics tool with flying colors. I restored then 'Erase All Content' then setup as new iPhone. One hour later I had my iPhone replaced for poor battery life.

[moka]

- mms
- video recording
- copy/paste
- ability to turn off sms pop-up notifications (with or w/out locking the phone)
- sms forwarding
- ability to send emails thru MobileMe using my created aliases and not just my master account

thanks

i'm growing tired of these very, very sub-par updates they roll out....utterly tired of them...


what are you talking about? all these features are already present on the iphone...

[samiwas]

So am I the only person who's phone is not constantly in other people's hands?? The number of threads about the SMS being shown on the screen (which can be disabled right?) and friends seeing it is crazy.

First of all, I don't pass my phone around, or leave it sitting out around people all the time. Secondly, who the hell cares what I receive in my text messages. If I receive a text from my wife saying "I want to tear your clothes off when you get home" and the guy sitting next to me sees it, then my response is "Sweet...I'm getting some tonight!". If your friends or coworkers judge you by what kinds of texts you receive, then it's time to get new friends, and stop talking to your nosy coworkers. Luckily, no one I work with cares either.

Didn't the last software release allow you to turn off SMS preview?

[TheSpaz]

Question: How good was Windows Mobile when it first came out? Did it have every feature that every cell phone had?

[WhySoSerious]

Question: How good was Windows Mobile when it first came out? Did it have every feature that every cell phone had?

no, but then again, when windows mobile came out, it was sort of pioneering the way alongside palm. the problem is, the iphone shouldn't need all this time to develop features that have already BEEN DEVELOPED by other companies.

[TheSpaz]

no, but then again, when windows mobile came out, it was sort of pioneering the way alongside palm. the problem is, the iphone shouldn't need all this time to develop features that have already BEEN DEVELOPED by other companies.

Other companies using a completely different platform. I still think the iPhone has a long ways to go and that's a good thing. It will get better and better.

[Hls811]

no, but then again, when windows mobile came out, it was sort of pioneering the way alongside palm. the problem is, the iphone shouldn't need all this time to develop features that have already BEEN DEVELOPED by other companies.


Just because somethings been developed doesn't mean its right; you're getting that confused with what you're used to... If that was the case we'd all still be using a variation of Windows. A big part of what makes Apple who they are is the ability to NOT do what other companies do.

[Mikey B]

it's been stated on these forums that jailbreaking writes a file to your phone, in that, even if you restore, it won't remove said file.

apple runs a diagnostic to pick up this file...thus voiding your warranty.

no thanks


That, my friend, is complete and utter ********. There is absolutely no way for Apple to tell if you've jailbroken your iPhone after you've done a complete restore. No way. I'm not sure why this rumor hasn't died yet, but it really needs to be laid to rest. When you do a DFU restore, the entire OS is wiped out making it impossible for any previous data or settings to be recovered. It baffles me that people don't understand this.

And seriously, if the iPhone didn't have the features you wanted, why did you get one?

[mcdj]

Wow, I had no idea people want MMS! Thanks.

yep, great feature!


fix it apple. fix it.

Thank you for flying Air Sarcasm. We're sorry you missed your connecting flight.

p.s. Apple doesn't live here.

*EDIT* wait a sec...WTF is this??? (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=498167) Someone just made my ignore list.

"if you don't like the new 3G iphone/features and/or you don't like the AT&T pricing and/or you don't like the activation/return policy.....then you don't have to get the phone or sign up with AT&T at all."

[lakaiordie]

waaahhh waahhh go cry somewhere else little baby

[alFR]

you probably felt really witty for posting that, huh...even with your little :rolleyes:

No, my post was an appropriate response to your obvious trolling.

*EDIT* wait a sec...WTF is this??? (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=498167) Someone just made my ignore list.

He's probably just looking for things to do at the moment:



Occupation:
Investment Banking

[WhySoSerious]

it'd be cool if all of you could lay off the verbal assults on me. i posted a simple and concise list of things i wanted on the iphone because i was tired of the lazy updates apple gives us (ie. japanese emoticons?? WTH? this was really that high on their priority list?).

it's not like none of you here wouldn't like to see those things i've listed on the iphone as well.

why so serious people? lighten up!

[aristobrat]

why so serious people? lighten up!
Respectfully, take the clue. Almost every one of the threads you start end up turning into this, or get Wastelanded.

The point you try to make is almost always lost in the tone that you use when you try to make it.

[WhySoSerious]

Respectfully, take the clue. Almost every one of the threads you start end up turning into this, or get Wastelanded.

The point you try to make is almost always lost in the tone that you use when you try to make it.


here's the OP:
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- mms
- video recording
- copy/paste
- ability to turn off sms pop-up notifications (with or w/out locking the phone)
- sms forwarding
- ability to send emails thru MobileMe using my created aliases and not just my master account

thanks

i'm growing tired of these very, very sub-par updates they roll out....utterly tired of them...
----------------------------------------

how is this lost in the tone? seems to me i was just casually voicing my opinion and others disagreed, rudefully.

[BergerFan]

We'd all love for the wishes on that list and plenty others to be implemented, but as with all things, it takes time - Time for an OS to mature.
Sure, a lot of those things are commonplace on even the simplest PAYG dumbphone, but that's only the result of the of Nokia, Symbian, LG, Samsung, Win-Mo, etc evolving there OS' over the past decade at least.
To expect a totally new OS to have ALL the features available, with no prior history behind it, is ludicrous(I aim this at all of us - yes, me included who have, in the past, demanded improvements yesterday).
It's like having a totally new expansion team in the NFL, reach the playoffs in their first season(Okay, Carolina and Jacksonville did that in 1995, but I'll overlook that :D)
HTC and some others would be nowhere, if they had to make their own OS. Even Google can't put out everything the users want right away.

In these "on demand" times that we live in, we just have to learn, or re-learn, to wait.
Personally, as things currently are, I'd take the iPhone 3G over any phone out there, every day of the week.


My 2c, 2p, 2ec.*



*Delete as applicable.

[WhySoSerious]

We'd all love for the wishes on that list and plenty others to be implemented, but as with all things, it takes time - Time for an OS to mature.
Sure, a lot of those things are commonplace on even the simplest PAYG dumbphone, but that's only the result of the of Nokia, Symbian, LG, Samsung, Win-Mo, etc evolving there OS' over the past decade at least.
To expect a totally new OS to have ALL the features available, with no prior history behind it, is ludicrous(I aim this at all of us - yes, me included who have, in the past, demanded improvements yesterday).
It's like having a totally new expansion team in the NFL, reach the playoffs in their first season(Okay, Carolina and Jacksonville did that in 1995, but I'll overlook that :D)
HTC and some others would be nowhere, if they had to make their own OS. Even Google can't put out everything the users want right away.

In these "on demand" times that we live in, we just have to learn, or re-learn, to wait.
Personally, as things currently are, I'd take the iPhone 3G over any phone out there, every day of the week.


My 2c, 2p, 2ec.*



*Delete as applicable.

good reply and i agree. however, hasn't the iphone been out for about 2 years now (give or take)? I'm just amazed that japanese emoticons are a higher priortiy than anything on that list or something simple like copy/paste.

oh well.......maybe by iphone version 3 or 4, we'll have some of the basics.

[TheSpaz]

good reply and i agree. however, hasn't the iphone been out for about 2 years now (give or take)? I'm just amazed that japanese emoticons are a higher priortiy than anything on that list or something simple like copy/paste.

oh well.......maybe by iphone version 3 or 4, we'll have some of the basics.

They're adding the Japanese Emoticons because they'll sell more iPhones in Japan.

[aluren]

here's the OP:
---------------------------------------------------
- mms
- video recording
- copy/paste
- ability to turn off sms pop-up notifications (with or w/out locking the phone)
- sms forwarding
- ability to send emails thru MobileMe using my created aliases and not just my master account

thanks

i'm growing tired of these very, very sub-par updates they roll out....utterly tired of them...
----------------------------------------

how is this lost in the tone? seems to me i was just casually voicing my opinion and others disagreed, rudefully.

because that message should've been sent to apple.

[Phil A.]

Question: How good was Windows Mobile when it first came out? Did it have every feature that every cell phone had?

I had one of the first Windows Mobile phones released (an Orange SPV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_SPV)) and it was complete and utter garbage (Interestingly, you couldn't install 3rd party apps on it due to Orange's restrictions but they backed down with a firmware update after about 6 months).

However, 6 years and a lot of development later, I can honestly say Windows Mobile is now...



... Complete and utter garbage :D

[WhySoSerious]

I had one of the first Windows Mobile phones released (an Orange SPV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_SPV)) and it was complete and utter garbage (Interestingly, you couldn't install 3rd party apps on it due to Orange's restrictions but they backed down with a firmware update after about 6 months).

However, 6 years and a lot of development later, I can honestly say Windows Mobile is now...



... Complete and utter garbage :D

LOL.....now, i will COMPLETELY agree with you on that (and i'm sure just about everyone else here can too!) :D

i believe the palm treo was one of the most frustrating phones i've ever owned. not sure how they are now, but back in teh day with win mobile 5.0, it was horrific and always caused me problems.

[bluenoise]

...something simple like copy/paste.


Explain "simple."

Unless you're a software engineer, you're probably not in a position to judge what is "simple" or not with regards to software/firmware features.


As far as the "lackluster" updates, I've been impressed and glad for them. Version 2.0 was a major upgrade and we have NEEDED (as opposed to "wanted") the subsequent updates to address the bugs that came with the big upgrade. Would I rather have MMS or stability? Hmmm...I think I'll go with stability, thankyouverymuch.

[BergerFan]

I had one of the first Windows Mobile phones released (an Orange SPV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_SPV)) and it was complete and utter garbage (Interestingly, you couldn't install 3rd party apps on it due to Orange's restrictions but they backed down with a firmware update after about 6 months).

However, 6 years and a lot of development later, I can honestly say Windows Mobile is now...



... Complete and utter garbage :DQuality. Lol. :D

[WhySoSerious]

Explain "simple."

Unless you're a software engineer, you're probably not in a position to judge what is "simple" or not with regards to software/firmware features.


As far as the "lackluster" updates, I've been impressed and glad for them. Version 2.0 was a major upgrade and we have NEEDED (as opposed to "wanted") the subsequent updates to address the bugs that came with the big upgrade. Would I rather have MMS or stability? Hmmm...I think I'll go with stability, thankyouverymuch.

oh, i absolutely agree with you in regards to wanting stability over extra features; however, when apple releases an update that has japanese emoticons instead of....say copy/paste (or use whatever else i have on the list), i find it disappointing.

as for "simple"....how about this: 3 finger swipe on the text, then use your nose to open up the menu options, followed by a toe swipe diagonally to confirm the cut, ending with a tongue lick to paste it like a stamp in an email? then again...not a programmer, so not sure if this would work.

[bluenoise]

oh, i absolutely agree with you in regards to wanting stability over extra features; however, when apple releases an update that has japanese emoticons instead of....say copy/paste (or use whatever else i have on the list), i find it disappointing.

as for "simple"....how about this: 3 finger swipe on the text, then use your nose to open up the menu options, followed by a toe swipe diagonally to confirm the cut, ending with a tongue lick to paste it like a stamp in an email? then again...not a programmer, so not sure if this would work.

The complicated part is not in designing the finger gestures needed. There is a lot of work that needs to take place under the hood to add a clipboard and get it to work nicely with existing applications that were written without the need to support copy-and-paste. Simply drawing a button on the screen doesn't automatically make it do something useful.

Maybe the addition of the Japanese stuff took priority as getting the iPhone into Japan was more important to Apple than copy/paste and MMS. Adding copy/paste and MMS would probably mostly benefit existing users whereas new language support opens the market to many new users. They already got the money from the existing users, but adding new ones means fresh new money, too. It's probably also considered "low-hanging fruit" as it likely didn't require much engineering effort like copy/paste and MMS would.

[Aurial]

Explain "simple."

Unless you're a software engineer, you're probably not in a position to judge what is "simple" or not with regards to software/firmware features.


As far as the "lackluster" updates, I've been impressed and glad for them. Version 2.0 was a major upgrade and we have NEEDED (as opposed to "wanted") the subsequent updates to address the bugs that came with the big upgrade. Would I rather have MMS or stability? Hmmm...I think I'll go with stability, thankyouverymuch.

I do agree with the OP in some respects. Certainly the stability upgrades have been worthwhile, but we've also seen such new features as different icons for 3G, Edge and GPRS, and the upcoming redesign of the Safari address bar. I agree that they've added the Japanese Emoticons to increase their laclustre sales over there, but as a company Apple should be looking at what it's customers have been asking for and prioritising there.

The problem with Apple as a company is that, more than most, it seems to have an army of rabid fanboys behind it (no offence to anyone on this forum, not saying anyone here is included) and they seem to know that whether they give their customers what they're asking for or not those customers are still going to buy the next iPhone, no questions asked. I suspect that some or most of the features the OP has asked for will be held off until the next iPhone, when they will be announced at the Keynote to resounding whoops of joy from the audience. That way they sell a new phone off the back of features which are included in most other phones and their customers have been asking for since 3 years ago. I suspect they'll probably hold out on letting TomTom et al release their Navigation software until this time also, so that they've got something good to show.

Copy and paste is not such an increadibly hard feature to include at all. As someone who has developed a lot of software in the past, all it really involves is reserving an area of the memory for a clipboard, and then implimenting a standard menu which will come up when a certain gesture is performed (e.g. user draws a circle on the screen) containing the options to cut/copy/paste. The most difficult part I can see for them is deciding on a method for the text selection. Actually copying or pasting it ifrom/into any area of any program is increadibly easy.

EDIT: For what it's worth, my implimentation for selecting text if I were working for Apple would be as follows (example selecting text in a page displayed in safari); You scroll to the area of text that you want. Then you put your finger at the start of the area you want to highlight. This would normally be interpreted as wanting to scroll the page again or select a link, but instead of moving (to scroll) or removing (to select a link) your finger you hold it down for two seconds. This begins the text selection, and you drag it to where you want it to end. Once selection has occured the OS knows that you'll probably be cutting or copying now so your next touch of the screen will do one of the following things: If you complete the menu gesture (in the example above you draw a circle on the screen) then the menu will pop up allowing you to cut/copy this text. If you simply tap the screen, or begin to scroll again then the text is de-selected and you carry on as normal. Likewise to paste you tap to place the cursor into the field you want to past into and draw a circle. This brings up the menu again allowing you to paste your clipboard to where the cursor is.

Implimenting this into all past/present Apps would not be an issue since the OS itself handles it all. All they would have to do is write the gesture into the OS. Gestures such as scroll are already universal.