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Oct 6, 2008, 09:01 PM
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Link: Mr. Gottheil? Steve Jobs Called. He Said to Tell You Apple Doesn’t Need You Anymore, Either (http://www.macbytes.com/link.php?sid=20081006220150)
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NT1440
Oct 6, 2008, 09:03 PM
so......she wants him to step down because hes done a good job with the company?:confused:

GenericUsername
Oct 6, 2008, 09:21 PM
so......she wants him to step down because hes done a good job with the company?:confused:No, he claims that Apple would do just fine without Jobs as CEO. He made his comments following the recent false report of Jobs's heart attack that caused AAPL to drop.

question fear
Oct 6, 2008, 09:28 PM
so......she wants him to step down because hes done a good job with the company?:confused:

I think he's saying he doesn't need to personally oversee the entire company from start to finish, that it can and will be Apple whether Tim Cook is running it, Jonathan Ive is the one demoing the new iPhone, or Phil Schiller is running the keynotes. Steve is the face of the company but it can run without him.

Frankly, Apple needs a way to prove they can function without Steve Jobs. He's not immortal, and he will want to retire someday. He needs to make that transition as painless as possible.

Aron.G
Oct 6, 2008, 09:35 PM
I agree that Job's has a great team, that know what their doing, but it would never be the same without Steve at Apple and it would be alot harder for Apple to go on, which they will, of course. But in my opinion, Steve will be there until the end of his time, because Apple and Technology in general are his life!, and in 20 years time, Apple will be the number 1 tech company in the world! No buts about it!

Apple Ink
Oct 6, 2008, 09:44 PM
A $20 billion blow wouldn't help even if Steve is leaving behind a team of executives worthy of Apple and worthy of replacing him!

And as fdar as the 'transition ease' is concerned..... I for one believe there was absolutely no need for Schiller to come on stage during the Lets Rock event to portray just some 'games' some of them already previewed earlier! But still he did and if you'll notice this has been doing the rounds lot! SJ's time in his own keynotes has decreased significantly while other people like Schiller and Forestall take over more!

BenRoethig
Oct 7, 2008, 06:44 AM
I think he's saying he doesn't need to personally oversee the entire company from start to finish, that it can and will be Apple whether Tim Cook is running it, Jonathan Ive is the one demoing the new iPhone, or Phil Schiller is running the keynotes. Steve is the face of the company but it can run without him.

Frankly, Apple needs a way to prove they can function without Steve Jobs. He's not immortal, and he will want to retire someday. He needs to make that transition as painless as possible.

I disagree. Cook, Ive, and Schiller are very good at what they do, but I don't think any of them could run this company. I think the reason Eric Schmidt is on the board is as an insurance policy.

question fear
Oct 7, 2008, 07:10 AM
A $20 billion blow wouldn't help even if Steve is leaving behind a team of executives worthy of Apple and worthy of replacing him!

And as fdar as the 'transition ease' is concerned..... I for one believe there was absolutely no need for Schiller to come on stage during the Lets Rock event to portray just some 'games' some of them already previewed earlier! But still he did and if you'll notice this has been doing the rounds lot! SJ's time in his own keynotes has decreased significantly while other people like Schiller and Forestall take over more!

If it's the Steve Jobs show all the time, and he retires/gets sick again, it's that much worse for the company in terms of mindshare. People equate Apple with Steve Jobs, but he needs people to equate Apple innovation=Apple employees. If everyone assumes Steve Jobs is the only person who can possibly explain everything about Apple, they're going to have to work that much harder to win back consumers if he ever leaves.

I disagree. Cook, Ive, and Schiller are very good at what they do, but I don't think any of them could run this company. I think the reason Eric Schmidt is on the board is as an insurance policy.

Ok, I was using them as examples. I honestly don't pretend to know who at Apple can run it when Jobs leaves. But he's not young, and he's had health issues, and he's going to reach a point where he's going to retire most likely, and hopefully locked in his drawer are specific instructions on where his hand picked successor is, otherwise there will be mass chaos. I sincerely think it's one of the handful of people who have rotated onto the state for keynotes with him, since it makes the transition easier for the avid consumer base and the casual consumer if the new person is that familiar face who talked about the new iPods last year, or who iChatted with Steve during a demo.

It's not that he's leaving tomorrow, but it's a reality of the situation that he is leaving someday. And to pretend he's not or pretend there's no successor being groomed is absurd for Apple.

sammich
Oct 7, 2008, 07:26 AM
Maybe it's just like how Tiger Woods' time off to repair his knee will cost American Golf billions too.

Maybe somewhere deep within 1 Infinite Loop, iSkunkworks is making clones.

Steve's RDF is all that holds up the stock price. If they can extract that energy and bottle it...

Sorry, I usually make serious posts, so here it is: okay, so Apple reveals their transition plan to turn Jobs into an advisory role. Whatever happens the stock will fall, anywhere from big to substantial tanking. So if Apple's stock tumbles again, it will stabilise, there will be the sensible people who will buy the stock and it will rise again slowly as people come to realise that Apple is more than one person. That much is obvious. But what are the repercussions of a lowered stock? Will Apple be the subject of a hostile/opportunistic takeover?

nagromme
Oct 7, 2008, 12:44 PM
When Jobs leaves, some of his unique strengths will be lost. And if a good replacement is chosen, then OTHER strengths will be gained at the same time.

ArtOfWarfare
Oct 7, 2008, 02:29 PM
Steve Jobs probably has a secret apprentice or something that will know exactly the answer to "WWJD?". (That's Jobs, not Jesus.)

... or maybe he's got some kind of super Mac Pro that he's uploaded his entire brain/personality into.

... I wonder if you can pirate the Steve Job's Brain application... god I'd love to have Steve Jobs be the brain in my iMac.