Are Apple Laptop Updates Still on Track for October?

[MacRumors]

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With the October 14th date quickly approaching, some are speculating (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/10/08/window_for_rumored_october_14_apple_event_closing.html) that it may be too late to expect an Apple event to be held on October 14th. That's not to say that Apple can't release new laptops without a media event.

Most of Apple's laptop refreshes have been simple press-release updates that have not triggered full media events. Though, if the recent rumors of radical new case designs (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/10/04/brick-refers-to-the-macbook-manufacturing-process/) are to be believed, one would think that Apple will want to showcase the new laptops to the media.

A rumor posted earlier this month (http://tw.apple.pro/?uid-2-action-viewspace-itemid-1061) from tw.apple.pro, however, claimed that there would be no October 14th event and the earliest we could expect updates would be November.

We're still not sure what to make of Apple.pro which is the Taiwanese blog that previously posted photos claiming to be of the new MacBook Pro (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/07/07/aluminum-macbook-pro-case-photo/) and MacBook (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/08/04/leaked-aluminum-macbook-case/). While the site has not yet established a reliable track record at this point, Appleinsider claimed (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/07/09/leaked-macbook-pro-casing-confirmed/) their leaked MacBook Pro image was authentic.

Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/10/08/are-apple-laptop-updates-still-on-track-for-october/)

[Tallest Skil]

Easy answer:

Currently, WE. KNOW. NOTHING. They'll happen when they happen, shut up with the whining why the current models will instantaneously break when the new ones come out and that's why you need to wait for a new one.

[fanbrain]

I'm glad I'm not in dire need of a new Macbook. The wait and non-information would kill me. Let them come when they are ready. Don't rush it.

[can7ona]

Well with the UK back to school promo ending 31st Oct maybe Apple will wait for it to end and then release the new ones - I know they've released new products during a B2S before but there's nothing to say they can't/won't release them after it this time.

Having said that I really hope they come out soon - not just for the promo but just so I can have a laptop for Uni!

Oh yeah - surely it's much "greener" to send out press releases than invite journalists (etc.) to fly hundreds/thousands of miles to see a new laptop or two(?)

[daniel.ord]

Much as I want them to arrive, I have trouble with it just being a press release? Unless it's a new way of diminishing Steve's influence, trying to let the company establish an indentity besides his?

[AAPLaday]

Lets hope its this side of xmas....

[miguellovesjesu]

im gonna order my laptop on tuesday

[petermcphee]

I am all for hoping that product revisions are still on track for the rumored October 14 date, but the lack of advanced preparation details coupled with the likelihood that Apple would want to showcase the new design process makes me think it will be later rather than sooner. Which makes me say bad words and be angry.

[DSG]

Posted this elsewhere but think it still makes sense:

The thing with the MB and MBP is that there is unlikely to be anything to demonstrate. Yes, they may well be pretty, but that's not really enough for a presentation - the message will get across perfectly well, if not better, with high quality website/press release images. What would happen at the demo - "Here's the new MB and MBP - see how pretty they are! They are still made the same way as before because that lasers and solid metal business is, frankly, prepostorous. Instead, most of the ports are on the power adapter so that its kind of like a docking station. Any questions?". 2 minutes tops?

While the Let's Rock event was pretty light on ground-breaking hardware, it had software, particularly the new Genius feature, which really needed SJ to show it off and convince everyone it was a big deal. It wouldn't have worked to have released iTunes 8 without a demo.

[JDinho]

Long term lurker compelled to post...

Very frustrated :mad: by lack of movement, slowly weakening and might pick up a refurb 2.4ghz macbook from refurb store on 15th if nothing is released.

[Full of Win]

If memory serves, the current generation of MacBooks was released w/o an event in 2006.

[AAPLaday]

Long term lurker compelled to post...

Very frustrated :mad: by lack of movement, slowly weakening and might pick up a refurb 2.4ghz macbook from refurb store on 15th if nothing is released.

I think the majority of posters on here are in same boat and have been for a few months lol. If nothing happens on tuesday i think it will be too long for many of them since we all been waiting since early summer. And dont get me started on the mini or mac pro updates... :)

[queshy]

I project these updates to mwsf09.

[Mykbibby]

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I'd be shocked if there was no event. If the iPod event was worthy, surely this is as well.

[John Jacob]

WTF? My 5-year old 12-inch Powerbook is slowly giving up the ghost, and I need a new Aluminium MacBook to replace it. I've been waiting for the new MacBooks for months now. Apple, YOU CAN'T DO THIS TO ME! :eek:

Normally, I don't bother rating a story, but I had to rate this one negative.

[dual64bit]

It is only but a few days away. A radical case design would prompt for a media event, whereas previous portables released from Apple spawned mild press releases. Perhaps the case design isn't as radical as believed? Maybe just a minor update on 14th and new ones in Jan?

[Djdion21]

Remember Monday is a US holiday. In the past Apple has held events on a Wednesday following a Monday holiday. Which would mean an announcement could come today, seven days prior to the event.

[TodVader]

Most of you guys are just ridiculous with all that non-founded speculation. I'm waiting to order mine but all those damn "sources" are getting pretty damn stupid.

Here's my prediction:
-October
-November
-December
-January
-February

My sources are valid, it will come in one of those months.

Remember my prediction when it arrives!

Should I start an official "leak" blog?

I'm pretty sure I'm right!

[calisurfboy]

Do you... yes..... do you hear that pounding right now?

That is the sound of my head smacking against a brick wall right now.

I was wondering that same thing last night. Usually apple releases those cute invitations what a photo or phrase that kind of gives you a clue on what to expect but nothing had been released so far. I worried because if they do update, it would probably be just speed bumps when, in truth, EVERY LINE NEEDS TO BE UPDATED!

Come on apple! What is up with the mac mini?!? It is just SAD at this point!

Everyone is waiting on the laptops but at least they were somewhat current with the standards of the day when they were released. The mac mini came out already the ugly red headed step child.

When these laptops come out and other computers, they are going to have to be radically different in every aspect to even measure up to what is currently now available by its competitors.

[Dave4]

I will see what happens on Tuesday and if there are no further rumors then i may just go ahead and buy. I do not own a current macbook and it was the current line which i fell in love with.

As well as this living in the UK i'll get a free nano, which i expect to sell and buy an iPhone with, so everyone wins :D

(first post as well, but a very long time lurker!)

[dual64bit]

WTF? My 5-year old 12-inch Powerbook is slowly giving up the ghost, and I need a new Aluminium MacBook to replace it. I've been waiting for the new MacBooks for months now. Apple, YOU CAN'T DO THIS TO ME! :eek:

Normally, I don't bother rating a story, but I had to rate this one negative.

I mean the nice thing about it is, you buy a computer when you have money. If you are waiting for something, then you wait, and no sense getting mad when it doesn't come "when you want". Look at those waiting for the i7 processor, sure it will be 16 times faster than computers built 6 months from now, but you've gotta wait 2 years. I'll might own 3 different computers before it comes out...

[Orng]

I guess it doesn't matter, I have to buy an MBP next week whether they announce a new model or not. I've pushed it back long enough, it's starting to cause workflow problems.

[dual64bit]

I will see what happens on Tuesday and if there are no further rumors then i may just go ahead and buy. I do not own a current macbook and it was the current line which i fell in love with.

As well as this living in the UK i'll get a free nano, which i expect to sell and buy an iPhone with, so everyone wins :D

(first post as well, but a very long time lurker!)

Welcome you lurkers, enjoy the rumors!

[unkle77]

While the Let's Rock event was pretty light on ground-breaking hardware, it had software, particularly the new Genius feature, which really needed SJ to show it off and convince everyone it was a big deal. It wouldn't have worked to have released iTunes 8 without a demo.

agree 100%.

if they make an event without software, it will be relatively short since there is a major lack of anything to show... is that really worth inviting hundreds of people? i think not.

either way, it will be a silent release... the only question is when?

[Raptura]

I got my MacBook Pro last month and I couldn't wait for the updates because I required it for school. But I have been telling everyone that the new MacBooks are coming out Next week! My reputation is on the line! I believe rumours too much and I need to stop telling people I have "inside" information when I'm simply a fraud haha

[Apple-Muck]

I project these updates to mwsf09.

I agree with you , looks more and more like it although i don't like to say it !... and ....macbooks(pro) are starting to hump behind in specs compared to non apple alternatives

[jpfarley]

This is insane. I'm completely for the suspense, but this is crazy! It's hard telling what rumors have some sort of credibility to them now, there is so much speculation going on. I'm all ready to purchase a new Macbook Pro, but seems like I'm just in a waiting game. I don't want to buy a Macbook Pro and then be disappointed to find that they get an update a month later! Come on, give us some more info, Steve!

[meagain]

Seems to me this would be a MacWorld thing. That was always my thinking. IDK.

[840quadra]

Long term lurker compelled to post...

Very frustrated :mad: by lack of movement, slowly weakening and might pick up a refurb 2.4ghz macbook from refurb store on 15th if nothing is released.

Or, you could wait, save a bit more money, and buy a higher end model of the expected new release. Hard choice to make, but, you still have the choice!

Nice thing is, the used market for apple laptops will likely let you sell your refurb Pro for only a slight loss. ;)

http://forums.macrumors.com/image.php?u=47064&dateline=1165207334&type=profile

[TheQuestion]

If memory serves, the current generation of MacBooks was released w/o an event in 2006.

True. There was no media event, just a bunch of people refreshing Apple's front page at 9:00 a.m. eastern time...

[Orng]

If you were to ask my mother-in-law, she'd probably theorize that SJ doesn't want to release a new product line while Mercury is retrograde. So after the 15th.

I suppose astrology is as good a source as anything else. :)

...I have been telling everyone that the new MacBooks are coming out Next week! My reputation is on the line! I believe rumours too much and I need to stop telling people I have "inside" information when I'm simply a fraud haha

I guess the best way to deflect snark is to own your own self-directed snark!

[happydude]

Remember Monday is a US holiday. In the past Apple has held events on a Wednesday following a Monday holiday. Which would mean an announcement could come today, seven days prior to the event.

columbus day is no major holiday, just an excuse for banking/wallstreet execs and the post office to take the day off. i'm sure apple's announcement schedule won't be based off a day dedicated to some idiot who thought he hit india but "discovered" a continent already populated with advanced civilizations that was "discovered" a few centuries earlier by the vikings.

[mladenz]

I also think there won't be an event, as someone said in this topic, what do they want to show? Yes, it's a redesign, and you can say: "its pretty ain't it?" but is that worth a event?

Don't get me wrong here, i've been waiting 4-5 months now and i'm checking this damn forum every day, almost 20 times a day.:apple:

[jcb10]

I leave Oct. 30 for a three-week trip to Australia and need a laptop. (My current iBook has a split screen and will not survive the trip.) I will buy whatever is available on Oct. 22 (as long as it will be in my hands on the 28th). Hopefully I will have a nice, new-model MB or MBP.

Failing that, any suggestions for a cheap but fairly durable Mac laptop that will be good for quick drops into Internet cafes for blogging, watching movies on a couple long train rides and can sync an iPhone?

[twoodcc]

well, it's not looking good for next week. unless an invite goes out today, i don't see it happening

[nick9191]

I leave Oct. 30 for a three-week trip to Australia and need a laptop. (My current iBook has a split screen and will not survive the trip.) I will buy whatever is available on Oct. 22 (as long as it will be in my hands on the 28th). Hopefully I will have a nice, new-model MB or MBP.

Failing that, any suggestions for a cheap but fairly durable Mac laptop that will be good for quick drops into Internet cafes for blogging, watching movies on a couple long train rides and can sync an iPhone?

12" Powerbook.

[RRRize]

I got my MacBook Pro last month and I couldn't wait for the updates because I required it for school. But I have been telling everyone that the new MacBooks are coming out Next week! My reputation is on the line! I believe rumours too much and I need to stop telling people I have "inside" information when I'm simply a fraud haha

You and I both are frauds! I've got 5 people at my job stoked about October 14th's MBP release. I've banded them all together and we've planned to order them on one invoice and have them shipped to work. What's worse, MY rumor has spread and at least 3 more people may join us. I am gonna look like a hot mess next week if there are no new MacBook Pros!

...oh well... such is the life of a rumor-monger.:o

[snake101st]

Ive been waiting since may, because of the July rumors... look where we are now. :(

Im inches away from ordering a thinkpad w500 and hackintoshing it. It wont be as pretty or as "ready" for OS X, but its so much better spec wise, and is more customizable. And it doesnt have a faulty video card.

If the MBP's dont come out tuesday, Im serious, Ill click the order button on the thinkpad site unless there are concrete rumors. No more "uh, I think they'll be out on X date!" :rolleyes:

[Chris Rogers]

the current selection is great. Buy now and be happy.

[Apple-Muck]

This is insane. I'm completely for the suspense, but this is crazy! It's hard telling what rumors have some sort of credibility to them now, there is so much speculation going on. I'm all ready to purchase a new Macbook Pro, but seems like I'm just in a waiting game. I don't want to buy a Macbook Pro and then be disappointed to find that they get an update a month later! Come on, give us some more info, Steve!

I agree with you too... But that's the price to pay when you jump onto the rumour and speculation train..... Waiting, Speculation, hope for a release, some more waiting, some more speculation and then all of a sudden you have that one slightly more credible story that pops out of nowhere which puts your hopes up again for a release ...etc etc etc .... Oh well that's part of the fun too... and addicted as I am, I will probably be checking it all out here again tomorrow ;)

[tgildred]

If those case designs are accurate, I'm not sure that this is a major redesign of either notebook line. It seems more like a logical progression, like the transition from the iBook to the MacBook. Apple already highlighted their move to aluminum in their consumer lineup with the introduction of the aluminum iMac. If there are any design cues taken from the Air, then--again--it's already been showcased.

Of course I'm just basing these on the previously leaked images, which themselves don't tell you much. I'm just trying to say that even if the look of the new notebooks was significantly different, it may not warrant an event because Apple has already more or less announced the direction of it's industrial design. We're just waiting for the rest of the products to play catch-up.

I know the iPods got an event for their redesign, but then the iPod touch had some fairly significant new features, and I think Apple wanted to hype up the possibility of the touch as a gaming device.

[shirohagen]

I've been waiting almost two months for updates to the MBP, I need one badly:

http://www.holster.co.uk/blog/death-of-a-powerbook

I really do hope they're coming soon, I can't go on doing my freelance graphic design on the kitchen TV.

:(

®

[sprice25]

yes, they are still on track for october. this is the best time to release them for the holiday. leopard was released october last year, perfect timing. It'll happen. It may not be an event but a subtle release is enough. if they do modify their production process, that alone will hit the news and media in a heartbeat even without an event. if that is showcased, then it is given that an image of the new computer designs will hit the news and media too. something like this doesnt need an event. people will see these new computers anyway when they go to apple for holiday shopping.

[SirROM]

Apple likes to have the spotlight when they release products. This is why they release on Tuesdays rather than Mondays so the “other” news that happened over the weekend will not cloud the message. This is also the reason why they WOULD likely move the announcement to Wednesday if it is to be next week.

Furthermore, the economic crisis and presidential debates are dominating the news right now, so Apple is less likely to release a product that will get “lost” among other news right now. Given the poor economic outlook, they may just be willing to wait a little longer to prevent a new product (even of it is just basically an upgrade) from not selling well. Mindshare associated with strong sales is actually MORE important than the extra profit right now to Apple. They have the money in the bank and have probably decided it is just better to wait than give ”anal-ists“ a reason to downgrade APPL or predict doom and gloom for the company's future.

Regardless, I also hope for an updated and feature-rich MacBook next week or soon. I think there is too much evidence to suggest that they will wait until January, but it may be another couple of weeks given the outside factors.

[olikid]

Having been waiting for 2/3 months for a new MBP to compliment my current MB, I too am pretty keen on the idea of something happening on the 14th...

Dispite the lack of a press invite, I'm actually still pretty hopeful that we'll see something next week.

Main reason being, if the spy shots (http://tw.apple.pro/?uid-2-action-viewspace-itemid-1061) of the new cases are accurate (which according to appleinsider, they were) (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/07/09/leaked-macbook-pro-casing-confirmed/), then it doesn't look like they've been built using any revolutionary 'brick' manufacturing process... They look pretty much identical in terms of overall construction - certainly not the 'revolutionary', 'screw free', 'single panel', case that the 'brick' event was supposed to show off...

http://images.macrumors.com/article/2008/07/07/020813-macbookpro_400.jpg

Like a few blogs have mentioned - It's unlikely that Apple could build a new manufacturing plant without anyone knowing about it - so I'd (optimistically) assume that although we're certainly due an update - it's not going to be the groundbreaking revolutionary manufactured product some have been waiting for.

And to echo previous comments - the last MacBook refresh didn't get a huge event - so why should these?

So, roll on the 14th - I'd love a 15" (Or 16.1" whatever) MBP with a graphics card that works well, and a battery that lasts 5+ hours.

[nick9191]

agree 100%.

if they make an event without software, it will be relatively short since there is a major lack of anything to show... is that really worth inviting hundreds of people? i think not.

either way, it will be a silent release... the only question is when?

+1

"New Macbooks and Macbook Pro's, yeah there aluminium, thin as well, quite cheap, oh we're updating the Mini as well, NOT *sniger*. Okay bye then..."

[DaBrain]

Well perhaps the World's Economic current condition has changed things? Ya Think? :confused:

[jbrenn]

i think the new macbooks will just show up in the store. yes they are a redesign but we all know that they will be alumium. If there are no new features for an event i dont see them holding one. I also have read that they will be using nvidea chips that are releasing on the 15 not the 14. is it possible for a wed or thurs release. according to the buyers guide macbooks have been updates on a wed and a thurs.

[snake101st]

the current selection is great. Buy now and be happy.

Only theyre really not.

I could get a W500 with this:

"ThinkPad W500 (customized) - $1,734.40

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo processor T9400 (2.53GHz 1066MHz 6MBL2)
Display type: 15.4" WSXGA+ TFT, w/ CCFL Backlight
System graphics: ATI Mobility FireGL V5700 with 512MB VRAM
Total memory: 4 GB PC3-8500 DDR3 SDRAM 1067MHz SODIMM Memory (2 DIMM)

Pointing device: UltraNav (TrackPoint and TouchPad) with Fingerprint Reader
Camera: 1.3 Megapixel Integrated Camera
Hard drive: 320 GB Hard Disk Drive, 5400rpm
Optical device: DVD Recordable 8x Max Dual Layer, Ultrabay Slim (Serial ATA)
System expansion slots: Express Card Slot & PC Card Slot
Bluetooth: Integrated Bluetooth PAN
Integrated WiFi wireless LAN adapters: Intel WiFi Link 5300 (AGN)"

For cheaper than the base MBP, even with the edu discount. And its video card wont die. And it has DDR3 and a faster processor, etc.

[krye]

I can't remember the last time I saw a media event for a laptop release. There's one for the iPods in Sept, MacWorld in Jan, and WWDC in June. I think the new MacBooks will be ushered in on 10/14 with nothing more than a refresh to the Apple homepage.

[Apple-Muck]

If those case designs are accurate, I'm not sure that this is a major redesign of either notebook line. It seems more like a logical progression, like the transition from the iBook to the MacBook. Apple already highlighted their move to aluminum in their consumer lineup with the introduction of the aluminum iMac. If there are any design cues taken from the Air, then--again--it's already been showcased.

Of course I'm just basing these on the previously leaked images, which themselves don't tell you much. I'm just trying to say that even if the look of the new notebooks was significantly different, it may not warrant an event because Apple has already more or less announced the direction of it's industrial design. We're just waiting for the rest of the products to play catch-up.

I know the iPods got an event for their redesign, but then the iPod touch had some fairly significant new features, and I think Apple wanted to hype up the possibility of the touch as a gaming device.

In addition to that , Apple mostly doesn't do media events just to update hardware there is always some kind of software release or update too (at least in the last couple of years). However if teh macbook(pro) gets a redesign(and it will) it will be showcased because it has been a looong time since it drasticly changed looks.....hmmm it's a tricky one , even for Apple I guess.

[Sirmausalot]

Maybe they don't want to show off thin Steve Jobs

[mrmids]

cmon apple, ive been waiting for a new macbook, my money's in the bank ready to go. Apple is frustrating me so much :mad:im thinking of buying a decent pc if they dont update soon and hackintosh it. to make it worse they haven't even upgraded to montevina, drop the iphone and ipod updates apple and get back to your roots. computers.

[jaredtomas]

As mentioned before, there's not much point in having an event for a redesigned case and spec upgrade.

[pik.]

or in two weeks or never!!!!!!!

the situation of Apple/mystique/secret it s so sad...:mad:

they where not so secret/ish about the iPhone....;)
i guess they do not bother anymore?:p

I have 2 Macs my girl wants one too and I need a new Alu macbook as workhorse in the hospital.:confused:

I think Apple is missing the hole point>take care of her customers.:(
they say "no news is good news...."

not in this situation....:mad:

we need some info.

i thought that 21.10 could be the date but I m not sure anymore...
cmon apple, ive been waiting for a new macbook, my money's in the bank ready to go. Apple is frustrating me so much :mad:im thinking of buying a decent pc if they dont update soon and hackintosh it. to make it worse they haven't even upgraded to montevina, drop the iphone and ipod updates apple and get back to your roots. computers.
+1

2 weeks apple.....2 more weeks....

[SirOmega]

If nothing happens on tuesday i think it will be too long for many of them since we all been waiting since early summer.

I've been waiting since January - the new Montevina chipset was originally due out in May. So I figured I'd wait. Now its October and no new laptops. I'm pissed off at this point.

Though there is one thing to say - perhaps with all the turmoil in the financial markets, and with the presidential election in the US in its last month, perhaps now isn't the best time to have a media event. Either wait until the election is over, or just push out the new laptops without the hoopla. If its not the latter, we wont see an media event until November 11th, possibly the 18th...

[bytethese]

I'm glad I'm not in dire need of a new Macbook. The wait and non-information would kill me. Let them come when they are ready. Don't rush it.

I'm not in dire need, but I'd like to upgrade. If I don't like what I see out there, I will buy some memory and a larger hard drive. I am hoping for good new Macbook Pros tho. Having a 802.11n wireless card at home would be MOST helpful too!

[rtdunham]

...any suggestions for a cheap but fairly durable Mac laptop that will be good for quick drops into Internet cafes for blogging, watching movies on a couple long train rides and can sync an iPhone?

well, here's a suggestion (I just got back from 2 1/2 weeks in Oz):
1) WAIT on the laptop. All the internet cafes i visited (Darwin, Broome, Kununurra) had their own computers for me to use to access mail, the internet, etc. If you're going to an internet cafe you really don't need to lug your own machine along. From a hotel room, that's a different matter (see 3), below)
2) if you've got an iPhone watch your movies on it. no, it can't match the full laptop screen experience, but it can be a very satisfactory accommodation when circumstances require it. traveling light was a real pleasure.
3) take an airport express to enable you to use your iPhone wirelessly in hotel rooms that provide only an ethernet cable. i didn't think to do that and wished i had.

just a couple thoughts. served me well on my trip. only problem i had was at cafes without safari on any of their computers, i twice had problems accessing MobileMe (they wouldn't let me download another browser to their computers). Most of the IC's had one or more units with safari.

[Apple-Muck]

As mentioned before, there's not much point in having an event for a redesigned case and spec upgrade.

I would think so too but not if a major redisign has been a while ... especialy not if the macbook goes aluminium. For minor facelifts there will probably not be an event...

[mladenz]

I just promised myself that i will limit my Macrumors visits to 1, if the macbook pro doesnt come out on the 14th. Starting to get addicted, if im not all ready...

[shortlex]

I think Apple's tactics in not suing rumor sites is paying off!
We are total delusional now!

[Kilamite]

I'm starting to think the new MacBook's won't get an event. I mean, why would they? Unless there is something hugely revolutionary that Apple are going to do, then Steve would just be telling us all the facts we already know. We can expect a processor bump and potentially a dedicated GPU and LED backlit display. They'll be made out of aluminium in a similar design to the current ones and the Air.

I could only see them holding an event if the MacBook Pro was to get a Blu-Ray drive and there was some other significant feature being added.

I can see Steve at MWSF09 saying, "We're really pleased with the new production method that we introduced for the MacBook back in October" and just giving a bit of an insight into the 'Brick Production' methods, if they are legit.

[jbernie]

Well for the 14th maybe you can expect a refresh with a bump in specs and not much else.

IF the new brick thing relates to how they will build the laptops there is a very good chance that they don't want to announce too much until the process is refined enough to cope with some decent volume as they would need to get probably a few thousand into the stores fairly quickly and have a bit more than that ready to go online, or at least shipping within a week.

At least a refresh in the processor speeds and hard drive space would be a noticable improvement, maybe a slight chance of a SSD option.

[Foxglove9]

I would be very very surprised if they had no media event for the unveiling of their newly redesigned laptops. Unless it is just a refresh in the current line, then I can understand that.

Either way I think they'll come soon. Apple might be holding back because (I could be wrong) their stock drops when they release new products and they certainly don't need that dropping any further than it has the last 2 weeks.

I hope the mini gets updated soon as it's greatly outdated for the price. I'm all set to build a cheap hackintosh if there is no update before xmas.

[kerryn]

Remember Monday is a US holiday. In the past Apple has held events on a Wednesday following a Monday holiday. Which would mean an announcement could come today, seven days prior to the event.

It may be Columbus Day on Monday but I would not call it a Holiday. As far as I am aware no one cares about this day - apart from perhaps a few Government workers (and even then I'm not sure...)

[Apple-Muck]

I just promised myself that i will limit my Macrumors visits to 1, if the macbook pro doesnt come out on the 14th. Starting to get addicted, if im not all ready...

Oohh, you are, believe me ;)

[chadder007]

With all of the rumors coming from everywhere about updates....if there aren't any next week, I would expect Apple stock to go down.

[BRLawyer]

Well perhaps the World's Economic current condition has changed things? Ya Think? :confused:

That's DEFINITELY the reason, and nothing else. The products are ready but Apple will NEVER release anything in the middle of such a turmoil. Why?

1) The relevant public will NOT notice and the launches shall not have any impact in light of the insanity of financial news;

2) Consumption, especially in the crumbling US economy and beginning also in many European economies, is sharply down;

3) Currencies are floating wildly, and interbank or intercompany financing is absolutely frozen all over the world. Trading companies are practically inactive as of now, and foreign markets would pay an undesirable premium for Apple products.

So any such launches are gonna happen in November, and this is an optimistic estimate. Don't dream about 14 October, as it's NOT gonna happen unless it's just about minor things and speed bumps.

[ChrisA]

Apple has a problem. The last big media event was sold as a "big deal" and people flew in from the east coast to attend and what happened? Steve goes on stage and talks about some un-important incremental updates to an existing product. Does anyone really think anyone will want to go to one of these again? Apple would be embarrased to call another even so soon unless there really was something new

If Apple were to call a big event and put up another three story tall banner and then announce "We have a new manufacturing process for the aluminium case, Oh and one more thing: The CPU clock speed is now 8% faster. That's it thanks for coming." That would be the last one people would bother to attend.

I think they will do this "upgrade" as a silent change on the web.

[flir67]

Only theyre really not.

I could get a W500 with this:

"ThinkPad W500 (customized) - $1,734.40

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo processor T9400 (2.53GHz 1066MHz 6MBL2)
Display type: 15.4" WSXGA+ TFT, w/ CCFL Backlight
System graphics: ATI Mobility FireGL V5700 with 512MB VRAM
Total memory: 4 GB PC3-8500 DDR3 SDRAM 1067MHz SODIMM Memory (2 DIMM)

Pointing device: UltraNav (TrackPoint and TouchPad) with Fingerprint Reader
Camera: 1.3 Megapixel Integrated Camera
Hard drive: 320 GB Hard Disk Drive, 5400rpm
Optical device: DVD Recordable 8x Max Dual Layer, Ultrabay Slim (Serial ATA)
System expansion slots: Express Card Slot & PC Card Slot
Bluetooth: Integrated Bluetooth PAN
Integrated WiFi wireless LAN adapters: Intel WiFi Link 5300 (AGN)"

For cheaper than the base MBP, even with the edu discount. And its video card wont die. And it has DDR3 and a faster processor, etc.


yet but you don't get leopard, :) you get vista, enjoy

[mogzieee]

I don't think I can last another 6 days since we've been talking about a new MacBook / MacBook Pro since the MacBook Air rumors nine months ago. PLEASE BE THE 14TH! PLEEEASE!

[narcotic]

been checking this site for a very long time, but finally registered myself to join this endless conversations.

I have a macbook 2,16 now with 2 GB ram but I'm waiting for the new MBP and hoping on a config of 2?8GhZ, 4GB ram and 1GB Vram.
I need this for school, cause I'm in a webdesign and video-editing course.
Please, apple, let it be, october 14 is coming close

[hobes270]

My speculation is that they will be released on tuesday without a event. In 2006 they were released without an event, this is really no different than that update was. We have all been waiting a long time. In my opinion, the economy has no effect on Apple, the economy wont be straightened out anytime soon, and apple released updates right before a presidential election before.. That is not effecting apple and what they plan to do.

If they are not released in october, then they are waiting till the UK back to school promo is over. Although they have released updates during back to school promos. If this is the case then they may be released in november, if not then macworld. Now that is just my opinion but it is probably wrong because Apple has been proving alot of people wrong recently. i just work for an Apple retail store. ;)

[mladenz]

Oohh, you are, believe me ;)

Ahahaha, your right:P Can't wait for my MBP.

[number9]

I just hope they come out soon because my girlfriend's stupid Dell laptop she got 4 years ago at the beginning of college **** the bed, and I've been telling her to hold of because they will refresh the Macbooks soon. She'd much rather spend the money on a new version if its coming out soon, though her need for a new laptop is getting dire-- plus I want to play with whatever new coolness Apple comes out with:D

[pik.]

That's DEFINITELY the reason, and nothing else. The products are ready but Apple will NEVER release anything in the middle of such a turmoil. Why?

1) The relevant public will NOT notice and the launches shall not have any impact in light of the insanity of financial news;

2) Consumption, especially in the crumbling US economy and beginning also in many European economies, is sharply down;

3) Currencies are floating wildly, and interbank or intercompany financing is absolutely frozen all over the world. Trading companies are practically inactive as of now, and foreign markets would pay an undesirable premium for Apple products.

So any such launches are gonna happen in November, and this is an optimistic estimate. Don't dream about 14 October, as it's NOT gonna happen unless it's just about minor things and speed bumps.
you are too sure to be true!!!!!!:p

[mpb2000]

I would be very very surprised if they had no media event for the unveiling of their newly redesigned laptops. Unless it is just a refresh in the current line, then I can understand that.

Either way I think they'll come soon. Apple might be holding back because (I could be wrong) their stock drops when they release new products and they certainly don't need that dropping any further than it has the last 2 weeks.

I hope the mini gets updated soon as it's greatly outdated for the price. I'm all set to build a cheap hackintosh if there is no update before xmas.

Does anyone really expect anything more than a refresh? We're not looking at a groundbreaking new device, just MBs with a few updated features. I'm sure we'll see updated specs, maybe a dedicated graphics card, probably just a better integrated one though, maybe LED, Al casing, maybe a better multi-touch trackpad. I would be totally fine with that. I never expected anything crazy like a glass trackpad or a tablet or anything like that. This is still just going to be a MB. It's just that with the current specs, it doesn't make financial sense to buy.

[Awesome-o/]

Easy answer:

Currently, WE. KNOW. NOTHING. They'll happen when they happen, shut up with the whining why the current models will instantaneously break when the new ones come out and that's why you need to wait for a new one.

I think your on the wrong website, why so angry?

Yeah gota say I think apple could loose a few customers if they dont do anything on the 14th, has been a long wait.

[kerryn]

Do we really need a media event for new laptops?

After all, haven't the last couple of media events been somewhat boring and anti-climatic. Why get all worked up about a new laptop? They'll turn up when the turn up...

[comradesnarky]

I too am in the collection of people getting very frustrated with Apple. I keep saying to friends that if they don't come out soon, I'm just going to get a PC but I don't know if I could bring myself to do that. I'm fairly new on the Apple bandwagon, but, I don't recall any event for laptop updates. The only event I remember that was REALLY hardware related was the Intel transition announcement. So...perhaps this will just be dropped into the store? Maybe we're expecting far too much from Apple in this? We'll see, but, I can't hold out much longer than the 14th. I've been at university since late August holding out as well as I can and I don't know how much longer it will last.

One more thing: I'd have to disagree with the people saying Apple won't release these because of the economy. Apple is kind if an anomaly. Their customers are rabidly devoted. Even regardless of this fact, the MacBooks and Pros are falling behind compared to other computers. They HAVE to release these. If they leave the notebook line as it stands, then the economy will make them suffer even more. They don't really have a choice but to release them before years end.

[narcotic]

INSIDE NEWS:

an employee of "switch", the belgian apple retailstores, did mysterious about the new MB and MBP's but wanted to tell that apple is shipping some stuff to Belgium this week.

[InLikeALion]

I guess it doesn't matter, I have to buy an MBP next week whether they announce a new model or not. I've pushed it back long enough, it's starting to cause workflow problems.

Ditto.

I find those who forcefully say "just buy now!" (i'm not referring to all the 'just-buy-now'ers) seem annoyed with us for waiting. But then it seems like many times they are the ones who buy new models often, so if they happen to buy tech that is half a year old, it doesn't matter as much because they will replace it in a year. For me, I've been saving for this machine for several years, and won't be able to replace it for a long time, so I don't want to get a machine that is already dated when a few weeks patience would have yielded brand new tech.

But I've held off long enough that my work flow is hampered and a week is about all I can afford to wait.

[kornyboy]

Wirelessly posted (iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.18.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.1 Mobile/5F136 Safari/525.20)

They have refreshed the laptop lime several times without a press release so there is still hope. I hate to hear this grim news.

[bytethese]

Only theyre really not.

I could get a W500 with this:

"ThinkPad W500 (customized) - $1,734.40

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo processor T9400 (2.53GHz 1066MHz 6MBL2)
Display type: 15.4" WSXGA+ TFT, w/ CCFL Backlight
System graphics: ATI Mobility FireGL V5700 with 512MB VRAM
Total memory: 4 GB PC3-8500 DDR3 SDRAM 1067MHz SODIMM Memory (2 DIMM)

Pointing device: UltraNav (TrackPoint and TouchPad) with Fingerprint Reader
Camera: 1.3 Megapixel Integrated Camera
Hard drive: 320 GB Hard Disk Drive, 5400rpm
Optical device: DVD Recordable 8x Max Dual Layer, Ultrabay Slim (Serial ATA)
System expansion slots: Express Card Slot & PC Card Slot
Bluetooth: Integrated Bluetooth PAN
Integrated WiFi wireless LAN adapters: Intel WiFi Link 5300 (AGN)"

For cheaper than the base MBP, even with the edu discount. And its video card wont die. And it has DDR3 and a faster processor, etc.

I'll have to chime in here. I just got in the W500 today to go with our other eval units (T400, X200, X300) and the W500 is a friggin BRICK. It's heavy as all hell. There's no IR port on it either for a remote. Sure, with my edu discount the MBP is $1800 and I would only get 2GB RAM, less video RAM and a 200GB HD for about the same cost as the W500 but I do get: IR port, MagSafe power adapter (has saved me MANY times), iLife suite, multi-gesture trackpad and most importantly, OS X. :)

[FerdiV]

I think the MacBooks will be released on tuesday 14th. It will be a silent update because there isn't much to tell for a keynote. They showed the latest software on september 9th, and won't show other a month later. They will do that in january.

They won't do a keynote just to show new hardware.

[bytethese]

Maybe they don't want to show off thin Steve Jobs

Why not, they can call him Steve Jobs Air. He'd come out of an interoffice envelope at the media event! :)

[iReality85]

I find it funny how some have said Apple will lose customers if they dont release on the 14th. How so? What are the alternatives to a Mac? Aren't Mac users vehemently against using a PC (or so it seems)? Apple knows this and we all know this. Fanbois will just continue to wait [begrudgingly].

[yorkshire]

And so the "release date" gets pushed back further and further.

[BRLawyer]

you are too sure to be true!!!!!!:p

Please feel free to check back on the 15th then... :rolleyes:

[roland.g]

I have no need for a MB or MBP and while interested in the new designs and features and specs of anything Apple, when it shows will not really matter to me. However I am curious as to when the MBA will see a change in specs as it is running as released in January, but while I drool most for the MBA it doesn't mean I will be getting one when they get bumped, if at all.

[J the Ninja]

That's DEFINITELY the reason, and nothing else. The products are ready but Apple will NEVER release anything in the middle of such a turmoil. Why?

1) The relevant public will NOT notice and the launches shall not have any impact in light of the insanity of financial news;

2) Consumption, especially in the crumbling US economy and beginning also in many European economies, is sharply down;

3) Currencies are floating wildly, and interbank or intercompany financing is absolutely frozen all over the world. Trading companies are practically inactive as of now, and foreign markets would pay an undesirable premium for Apple products.

So any such launches are gonna happen in November, and this is an optimistic estimate. Don't dream about 14 October, as it's NOT gonna happen unless it's just about minor things and speed bumps.

So, um, how would NOT releasing a product that has already incurred all it's R&D costs and has had many units already built make ANY sort of financial sense?

[g00k]

yet but you don't get leopard, :) you get vista, enjoy

u really dont get it hu?
even though leopard is better than vista its unacceptable to build "low quality" components for a PRO machine... and charging this much money for it.
leopard is worth 130 bucks... the hardware difference is worth 500-600 bucks.
i am willing to spend a bit more money on a good os, still 300-400 bucks just get in apples pocket or is leopard worth 500 bucks?

argh i am getting angry again...

eco crisis my ass...

"1) The relevant public will NOT notice and the launches shall not have any impact in light of the insanity of financial news;"

u guys really think apple is in the middle of the universe? apple has a market share of 8 percent or whatever. u think the times and newpaper will mention apple in their headlines? man i dont wanna flame u or something but think more reasonable.
holding back would mean that the stocks dropps so they are in need to refresh it. in a time of eco crisis only the most innovative and strongest will surive... and if u are selling 1year old hadware noone will pay for it.

[AAPLaday]

If they had glass track pads and the ability to see the dock and directly access it from the trackpads like rumours a few weeks ago then i think that would be a big deal. Especially if there were other multi touch ideas which we weren't aware of. Right about now though id settle for a big splash of the new macbooks on the apple home page on tuesday!!! :D

[Bickley]

New laptops in January with SnowLeop. At best a speed bump between now and then. Sorry.

[crees!]

I mean the nice thing about it is, you buy a computer when you have money. If you are waiting for something, then you wait, and no sense getting mad when it doesn't come "when you want". Look at those waiting for the i7 processor, sure it will be 16 times faster than computers built 6 months from now, but you've gotta wait 2 years. I'll might own 3 different computers before it comes out...

3 computers in 2 years!? Damn. How much underwear do you go through?

[snake101st]

yet but you don't get leopard, :) you get vista, enjoy


Yeah but if you read my post before, I said I would get it and hackintosh it. :p

[mgpg89]

New laptops in January with SnowLeop. At best a speed bump between now and then. Sorry.

Snow Leopard is 9 months away, so not going to happen.

[J the Ninja]

If they had glass track pads and the ability to see the dock and directly access it from the trackpads like rumours a few weeks ago then i think that would be a big deal. Especially if there were other multi touch ideas which we weren't aware of. Right about now though id settle for a big splash of the new macbooks on the apple home page on tuesday!!! :D

Where on earth did this idea that glass trackpads = trackpad display come from? Am I the only one who thinks they may be doing this because glass looks cooler than the regular trackpad material and doesn't wear down/stain?

[crees!]

eco crisis my ass...

"1) The relevant public will NOT notice and the launches shall not have any impact in light of the insanity of financial news;"

u guys really think apple is in the middle of the universe? apple has a market share of 8 percent or whatever. u think the times and newpaper will mention apple in their headlines? man i dont wanna flame u or something but think more reasonable.
holding back would mean that the stocks dropps so they are in need to refresh it. in a time of eco crisis only the most innovative and strongest will surive... and if u are selling 1year old hadware noone will pay for it.

Eco-crisis. You mean the biggest lie in human history.

[pine1045]

If you look at the "leaked" macbook case photo, the bottom is carved out of one solid block of aluminum. All the components would fit right in there and be covered with the keyboard.

[Manatee]

By 11-November, or not until MacWorld in January. Not likely to see anything in between.

[BRLawyer]

So, um, how would NOT releasing a product that has already incurred all it's R&D costs and has had many units already built make ANY sort of financial sense?

Simple...Apple historically relies on the mass advertisement and sale of a lot more units in proportion with a favorable "launch" momentum. The timing would be nothing short of horrible if totally new laptops are launched to a market that won't buy them. And no, the US market WON'T buy any premium machines right now, nor will European markets or other emerging markets.

Again: trading companies' and interbanking financing are practically FROZEN. Any loans you might want demand huge premiums that nobody is ready to assume.

Besides, by not launching now, the added costs are negligible. And they won't incur in additional transoceanic shipping costs in a moment of market insanity.

[mpb2000]

Where on earth did this idea that glass trackpads = trackpad display come from? Am I the only one who thinks they may be doing this because glass looks cooler than the regular trackpad material and doesn't wear down/stain?

Yes. Having a display in the trackpad is the dumbest thing ever. Why would I want to take my eyes off the screen to look at a little trackpad? Makes no sense at all. That fake picture a couple of weeks ago with the dock IN the glass trackpad was just ridiculous. So, you want me to look down and touch one of the dock buttons to open something? Why? Using glass for reasons such as wear or something like that, now that I could see.

[g00k]

Eco-crisis. You mean the biggest lie in human history.

i think u got me wrong or most likely i expressed myself wrong...
i am just annoyed that all people here argue that it wouldnt be clever to realese a product in the near future due to the eco crisis.
but its not the case.... the world will keep going if u want or not and the crisis wont fade away by november. the crisis will hold our breaths for years or decades... its nonsense therefore to holdback a product

@brlawyer
http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/08/the-sky-is-falling-but-electronics-sales-are-soaring/

[BRLawyer]

u guys really think apple is in the middle of the universe? apple has a market share of 8 percent or whatever. u think the times and newpaper will mention apple in their headlines? man i dont wanna flame u or something but think more reasonable.
holding back would mean that the stocks dropps so they are in need to refresh it. in a time of eco crisis only the most innovative and strongest will surive... and if u are selling 1year old hadware noone will pay for it.

Surely you need to take a more careful look at the level of exposition that Apple has in the media...it's just the opposite proportion of its market share...and no one will pay for "new" and more expensive hardware when money is simply not there. :rolleyes:

It's obvious that things will continue even during times of crisis...but THIS very moment is of pure peak insanity. Apple is not stupid to release anything like mindblowing laptops next week, when all eyes are turned to the bankruptcy of a whole nation called Iceland, to the foundation of new geopolitical principles and to the freezing of money markets all over.

[J the Ninja]

Simple...Apple historically relies on the mass advertisement and sale of a lot more units in proportion with a favorable "launch" momentum. The timing would be nothing short of horrible if totally new laptops are launched to a market that won't buy them. And no, the US market WON'T buy any premium machines right now, nor will European markets or other emerging markets.

Again: trading companies' and interbanking financing are practically FROZEN. Any loans you might want demand huge premiums that nobody is ready to assume.

Besides, by not launching now, the added costs are negligible. And they won't incur in additional transoceanic shipping costs in a moment of market insanity.

Yes, this would be a great idea if the machines weren't already designed and built. But they are. And they're computers. Their value is tied to the crazy advance of technology. Once a computer is designed and built, it's value begins to plummet. Within weeks, usually. Meaning if they released later, the products would not be as valuable. I'm sorry, but I don't see how not releasing could possibly put Apple in a better financial situation than just selling these things. They've already paid to make them. Might as well put them out there. Some people will still buy them.

[ChrisNH]

There's a slice of the population that just HAS to have the new MacBook now. Too bad for them. And I would bet that half those people don't really have to have it...they just 'want' it.

So it's against that backdrop (and against the backdrop of people squirreling their money rather than spending it) that Apple might be wise to hold off on the introduction/announcement until after the election. Because, as we all know, once Obama 'wins' and floats to earth inside his clear bubble waving the wand, the sun will come out, flowers will magically bloom, and the Munchkins will all appear from behind fake potted plants. Things will instantly be 'swell' again (or within a few weeks). And within that little cocoon of manufactured 'swellness' will be the perfect time for Apple to unveil the new MacBooks. Still in time for the Holiday shopping season. That's the way this is shaping up.

[andiwm2003]

Only theyre really not.

I could get a W500 with this:

"ThinkPad W500 (customized) - $1,734.40

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo processor T9400 (2.53GHz 1066MHz 6MBL2)
Display type: 15.4" WSXGA+ TFT, w/ CCFL Backlight
System graphics: ATI Mobility FireGL V5700 with 512MB VRAM
Total memory: 4 GB PC3-8500 DDR3 SDRAM 1067MHz SODIMM Memory (2 DIMM)

Pointing device: UltraNav (TrackPoint and TouchPad) with Fingerprint Reader
Camera: 1.3 Megapixel Integrated Camera
Hard drive: 320 GB Hard Disk Drive, 5400rpm
Optical device: DVD Recordable 8x Max Dual Layer, Ultrabay Slim (Serial ATA)
System expansion slots: Express Card Slot & PC Card Slot
Bluetooth: Integrated Bluetooth PAN
Integrated WiFi wireless LAN adapters: Intel WiFi Link 5300 (AGN)"

For cheaper than the base MBP, even with the edu discount. And its video card wont die. And it has DDR3 and a faster processor, etc.


sounds great. only drawback: 5.8 pounds. also don't know how good the screen and the sound is.

but anyway, yes apple has to come up with something like this for $2000 and at 4.5 pounds or less with a great screen and sound to be able to compete.

anything with 5.8 pounds would have to be 3 GHz or Quadcore or 18" screen to be justified. Real pros might love something like that.

[AAPLaday]

Yes. Having a display in the trackpad is the dumbest thing ever. Why would I want to take my eyes off the screen to look at a little trackpad? Makes no sense at all. That fake picture a couple of weeks ago with the dock IN the glass trackpad was just ridiculous. So, you want me to look down and touch one of the dock buttons to open something? Why? Using glass for reasons such as wear or something like that, now that I could see.

Maybe it would just be a quick launcher or perhaps have options for most commonly used functions depending on the application your using at the time, or maybe its glass because it will last longer, or maybe it was all just a hoax to get us going lol

[tgildred]

So, um, how would NOT releasing a product that has already incurred all it's R&D costs and has had many units already built make ANY sort of financial sense?

Why hold a big noisy event about laptops right when everyone's concerned about their futures and how "they're going to put food on their family," to paraphrase G.W.? It almost seems inappropriate. Which is another reason I think any update will be without an event. But there will be an update.

Having said that, I agree that if the release itself gets bumped back, it's unlikely to do with the economy directly.

[digiguy23]

I remember a while back someone directly from Apple saying that they will be releasing new redesigned Macs in September to combat the clones.

[g00k]

and the money will come by november?
so u wanna tell apply to freeze all sells and wait for a better economic situation?
well the company will have fun.
sure people will spend less but if they spend they want somethin worth the money. who would spend 2k for a mpb with 200 gb if the competitors have 320 or 400 avaible in a couple of months?
u are not neutral... therefore ur arguments doesnt make much sense.

[morespce54]

I vote for the 14th without a media event.
At least, I (still) hope for.......

[pik.]

If you look at the "leaked" macbook case photo, the bottom is carved out of one solid block of aluminum. All the components would fit right in there and be covered with the keyboard.

we are talking thin....:D

BRLawyer I ll ckeck you!!!!!! :)

[BRLawyer]

"they're going to put food on their family," to paraphrase G.W.?

My point is that Apple is NOT gonna release anything next week...not ever. Late November should be fine, on the other hand.

As for Dubya's quote, there is nothing better than his statement yesterday or 2 days ago that, in proposing a first step to solve the economic crisis, his idea was that "we must do something about it"...nothing could be stupider. :rolleyes:

[Brien]

I just don't see the point in going 10/11 months without updating these things. :confused:

[Eidorian]

I just don't see the point in going 10/11 months without updating these things. :confused:e.g Apple Displays and Mac mini

[kkat69]

Seems (and excuse me if this has been posted already and I've read through some and it seems it's been hinted) that a good bit of this community here is hell bent on blaming Apple for release dates they have never officially declared.

One post I noticed was "Apple you can't do this to me" yet Apple hasn't said anything. People are taking these rumors and then holding Apple to them and when nothing comes around it's Apple's fault? How so?

I can understand if Apple said "We'll be releasing new laptops on the 14th" then missing the date, THEN yah, I can blame Apple. But if yourmammasinsideinfoonapple.com said they're releasing laptops on the 14th and the date is missed, even if 20 web sites say it (and they only said it because one said it) then it's not Apple's fault.

I know the "Dell" community doesn't run around going "COME ON where are new model inspirons you promised us" (yah bad example but you get the point) because HP said dell might be releasing new laptops.

They'll release them when they are damn good and ready and NOT because tuaw said they will. If it's a matter of "I've got money and want the latest and greatest" well then buy one now and deal with it. Technology changes daily, Apple is one of the few companies that likes to try to stay on top and release new products when the technology is approved for mainstream use and do it with style (like events or press releases).

But the blaming Apple for missing unofficial release dates is a common thing here. It's like what a person said last night "We tend to believe the first thing we read on the internet regardless if it's true or not" and that's the case here.

So if it happens it happens, if not oh well, when Apple officially announces it then we can start the countdown.

[shabbasuraj]

stupid laptop updates....taking up all the news...


hellooooo Apple.. we need new MacPros.......


bueller?

bueller?

[TechnoLawyer]

Easy answer:

Currently, WE. KNOW. NOTHING. They'll happen when they happen, shut up with the whining why the current models will instantaneously break when the new ones come out and that's why you need to wait for a new one.

Has Apple ever shipped new MacBooks in October? Not that I can recall. There was a minor bump last November -- but I repeat it was a minor bump. If a major revision is at hand, why would Apple not wait until MacWorld Expo when the entire world is watching and no longer preoccupied with the election or (I hope) the plunging stock market? An October release makes no sense.

Incidentally, January is a terrible time for a trade show. Move MacWorld Expo to June so that Apple can release new Macs in time for the new school year.

[yorkshire]

Seems (and excuse me if this has been posted already and I've read through some and it seems it's been hinted) that a good bit of this community here is hell bent on blaming Apple for release dates they have never officially declared.

One post I noticed was "Apple you can't do this to me" yet Apple hasn't said anything. People are taking these rumors and then holding Apple to them and when nothing comes around it's Apple's fault? How so?

I can understand if Apple said "We'll be releasing new laptops on the 14th" then missing the date, THEN yah, I can blame Apple. But if yourmammasinsideinfoonapple.com said they're releasing laptops on the 14th and the date is missed, even if 20 web sites say it (and they only said it because one said it) then it's not Apple's fault.

I know the "Dell" community doesn't run around going "COME ON where are new model inspirons you promised us" (yah bad example but you get the point) because HP said dell might be releasing new laptops.

They'll release them when they are damn good and ready and NOT because tuaw said they will. If it's a matter of "I've got money and want the latest and greatest" well then buy one now and deal with it. Technology changes daily, Apple is one of the few companies that likes to try to stay on top and release new products when the technology is approved for mainstream use and do it with style (like events or press releases).

But the blaming Apple for missing unofficial release dates is a common thing here. It's like what a person said last night "We tend to believe the first thing we read on the internet regardless if it's true or not" and that's the case here.

So if it happens it happens, if not oh well, when Apple officially announces it then we can start the countdown.


Agreed. I'd still really like to see MBs ASAP.

[peschybear]

Pretty reliable sources from Nvidia have seen the "new" Macbook and the "new" Macbook Pro. The machines haven't changed externally, only internally.
So for the people who can't wait: 14th of October there will be an update, for the people who want an alu Macbook: it isn't going to happen for a while.
Because the look hasn't changed, the prices can drop. I also dream of an alu Macbook with great GPU, great autonomy, great portability and sturdiness for about 750$, but I'm afraid it will remain a dream.
So, the 14th of October I'm buying a white Macbook.

[irjosh]

I just got home from my local best buy and they took all there mb and mbp off display and i asked about it and they told me they were out of all the notebooks and should have some new ones in soon. I guess next week still can be a possibility or they could just be getting more of the old ones, i dunno.

[Hattig]

been checking this site for a very long time, but finally registered myself to join this endless conversations.

I have a macbook 2,16 now with 2 GB ram but I'm waiting for the new MBP and hoping on a config of 2?8GhZ, 4GB ram and 1GB Vram.
I need this for school, cause I'm in a webdesign and video-editing course.
Please, apple, let it be, october 14 is coming close

Honestly if you're at school and already have a kickass computer, why waste money you don't have (i.e., why spend years paying for it on a student loan) on a slightly more kickass computer?

You don't need 4GB, 2.8GHz, etc for web design, and you don't need it for a college course on graphic design or video production.

[Chupa Chupa]

I don't see where every new Apple product needs an Apple Event. They've been snoozefests of late and Steve Job's health has received more attention than the products he was announcing. A newlook MB and MBP is great, but do they deserve an Apple Event? Hardly. Apple Events should be reserved for something special, hence the word "event" tied to it.

I don't think the mystery product transition spoke of at last quarter's conference call has occurred yet so I think new products are due. The MBA is quite long in the tooth especially.

[claimed4all]

Seems (and excuse me if this has been posted already and I've read through some and it seems it's been hinted) that a good bit of this community here is hell bent on blaming Apple for release dates they have never officially declared.

One post I noticed was "Apple you can't do this to me" yet Apple hasn't said anything. People are taking these rumors and then holding Apple to them and when nothing comes around it's Apple's fault? How so?

I can understand if Apple said "We'll be releasing new laptops on the 14th" then missing the date, THEN yah, I can blame Apple. But if yourmammasinsideinfoonapple.com said they're releasing laptops on the 14th and the date is missed, even if 20 web sites say it (and they only said it because one said it) then it's not Apple's fault.

I know the "Dell" community doesn't run around going "COME ON where are new model inspirons you promised us" (yah bad example but you get the point) because HP said dell might be releasing new laptops.

They'll release them when they are damn good and ready and NOT because tuaw said they will. If it's a matter of "I've got money and want the latest and greatest" well then buy one now and deal with it. Technology changes daily, Apple is one of the few companies that likes to try to stay on top and release new products when the technology is approved for mainstream use and do it with style (like events or press releases).

But the blaming Apple for missing unofficial release dates is a common thing here. It's like what a person said last night "We tend to believe the first thing we read on the internet regardless if it's true or not" and that's the case here.

So if it happens it happens, if not oh well, when Apple officially announces it then we can start the countdown.

+1 , complete concur with that.

[TEG]

I would expect updates this month, but the redesign would likely be unveiled at MWSF.

TEG

[mpb2000]

Technology changes daily, Apple is one of the few companies that likes to try to stay on top

This couldn't be further from the truth, as far as their computers as of late. When was the last time Apple updated their computers, besides launching the Air? This is part of the complaint. Apple DOESN'T stay up with technology. They keep selling the same exact thing for months (and in some of these cases over a year) while PCs are updated continuously, which is why Dell, etc don't have special keynote presentations. If they can buy bigger hard drives, they put them in as options. More RAM, more options. Apple has sold the same HDDs in their MBs for months now and kept their prices the same, while PC manufacturers constantly update things like this.

[0racle]

That's DEFINITELY the reason, and nothing else. The products are ready but Apple will NEVER release anything in the middle of such a turmoil. Why?

1) The relevant public will NOT notice and the launches shall not have any impact in light of the insanity of financial news;

2) Consumption, especially in the crumbling US economy and beginning also in many European economies, is sharply down;

3) Currencies are floating wildly, and interbank or intercompany financing is absolutely frozen all over the world. Trading companies are practically inactive as of now, and foreign markets would pay an undesirable premium for Apple products.

So any such launches are gonna happen in November, and this is an optimistic estimate. Don't dream about 14 October, as it's NOT gonna happen unless it's just about minor things and speed bumps.

I for one am glad to hear that the financial crisis will have begun to subside by November allowing Apple to release a new MacBook then.

[jbernie]

The economy good or bad will not stop Apple from updating products, in fact it is a reason to update more frequently rather than less or not at all.

Worst thing Apple can do right now is nothing at all, people are going to be much more picky when it comes to making big purchases, Apple can offer you a more expensive MBP that hasn't been update in some time or you can go with a Windows based laptop where most get updated every few months as new things are released.

I know Apple won't fail, but not updating products is a good way to encourage people to look elsewhere. It doesn't need to be the complete overhaul or any amazing new tech. A bump to a current/brand new processor to get a good speed boost, increase the HDD space/speed, maybe tewak the graphics to a newer chipset and you are current again for a few months till the really new whizz bang unit is ready.

[HyperX]

I think a lot of you are missing some key information on apple here.

1) Apple does keynotes when they have something big to show. This causes the stock to go up. Last event was meh, and they stock dove. So if there is a release of new notebooks, don't look for a keynote.

2) The updates that are coming will likely come in at a lower price point as well. Apple has already stated they will be cutting into pre-christmas margins to be able to be more competitive. Last keynote was a LOOK LOWER PRICES, and NEW PRETTYNESS. That didn't work out well for shareholders.

3) There needs to be a serious refresh. Apple notebooks are not competitive and sales will slow now that school has started up. They cant wait till 2009 as then you will have the same tired notebooks out when Snow Leopard is out. Even a new month would be cutting it close.

4) Apple needs to start gearing up products FOR Snow Leopard today. Before 2009 so they can say IT WILL WORK AWESOME ON THE NOTEBOOK YOU BUY TODAY, during the 2009 keynote. Would anyone have bought Leopard up if they were told the notebook they bought 9 months prior would not use 1/2 the features. I think it's safe to say, look for some sort of GPU rather then X3100 in the updates. I think the rumors of an Nvidia chipset fit in VERY well here.

This is just my 2 cents though and pure speculation, JUST like a Chinese Blog speculating on an American Keynote ;P

Edit: PS about the economy. It's going to keep getting worse. The longer apple waits the worse it becomes. Look for 12-18 months of recession. I don't think they will wait that long for an update. Anyone who thinks this is going to be a green X-mas... is in for a shock!

[hob]

What if the just posted a quick 2 minute video of Jobsy on the home page? I think that would suffice!!

They could have it like Alan Partridge after being crushed by a cow... except Steve J would be talking from his hospital bed... complete with stand-in arms !

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MrOBqn0asug

[shabbasuraj]

I for one am glad to hear that the financial crisis will have begun to subside by November allowing Apple to release a new MacBook then.


uh ya...

November 2010 dude....

[g00k]

i hope they will update them...
there are plenty of sources pointing on the 14...
in july we heard nothing for weeks/months and now we know why :D

[Hattig]

I expect an update next week - although it might not be Tuesday - and I hope that Apple also deigns to update the Mac Mini at that time with the NVIDIA chipset as well as I'm in the market for something like this.

I don't think there will be a major announcement - it will only be a product update. Even if there was a new manufacturing process, I don't think it would be that exciting for a presentation.

Apple need to get updates out sooner now that they're using Intel. I'm talking about incremental bumps every 3 months even if that is only small improvements to the CPU speed, HD capacity, RAM capacity and so on. Alternatively they could drop the prices as the design gets older so that the products stay good value over the vast amount of time it often takes Apple to get around to releasing even minor updates.

If there's no announcement, then there's no tablet mac, no subnotebook mac, no large-ipod mac, no nothing. Glass trackpads however are still a possibility, but don't be upset if they're delayed to January/February.

[hob]

I suspect Apple has a one-day lead on the new NVIDIA chips... so they get to release on the Tuesday before anyone else can get their hands on them on the Wednesday!

[fastbite]

I believe there is more than enough reason for an event if we get a NEW design and FULL multitouch. With out an event I guess we'll just get more of the same.

[BLACK MAC]

There is nothing being released this month! If we are lucky, we will get iPhone software update 2.2. That's it! People don't buy $2,000+ laptops for Christmas. They do that around the new school year.

[mudenza]

Im not understanding the pessimism here. In fact, in my opinion, all rumours add up beautifully.

a) The Taiwanese blogger Apple.pro most probably had authentic prototype images of the MBP, but by no means (assuming the blogger has some form of insider contact) that either Taiwanese manufacturer had the go ahead to produce these cases, which then confirms...

b)...the Brick and all of its connotations of a new manufacturing process based in the USA, ruling out any form of participation by the Taiwanese companies. Apple.pro probably states that there wont be any event on the 14th most likely due to the fact that the companies have not been reinstated as manufacturing partners of Apple and have no idea of Apples plans.

c) I do remember the rumour about a shipment. Unless I missed out something, I didnt hear anything about shipments coming from China

d) I dont see why they have to set up an event for the new Macbooks. I cannot imagine Jobs going on about the new *laser beaming* manufacturing process for 30 minutes without both the audience and himself dropping dead to the floor with boredom.

Just my two (euro) cents :D

[rjames86]

WTF? My 5-year old 12-inch Powerbook is slowly giving up the ghost, and I need a new Aluminium MacBook to replace it. I've been waiting for the new MacBooks for months now. Apple, YOU CAN'T DO THIS TO ME!

I'm in your exact same situation. I'm going to miss my 12" though =(

[jmerk]

I know that this will sound LUDICROUS but when the #$%^ can we expect to see a Blu-Ray drive in the MBPs?

No one is talking about it...there are several PC laptops with a Blu-Ray drive wth are they waiting for? Isn't Apple part of the "Blu-Ray Consortium" (or whatever it is called)?

I am not a TV watcher (no cable, satellite, etc) but I would love to have a Blu-Ray player to make use of the HD tv that I have and watch movies in high-def. Pre-emptive strike: don't mention a PS3. I'm not a console gamer and I'm not spending $300 (or whatever) on a PS3 just for the Blu-Ray player. I have to be smart with my money and I used my laptop before getting a standalone DVD player in the past-it worked just fine.

The other capabilities of the Blu-Ray drive (burning, etc.) would be fantastic as well. Why is this so hard to do? How can Sony afford to put a Blu-Ray player in a PS3 (a $300 device) and Apple can't figure it out for the MBPs? I understand that hundreds of thousands (millions?) of PS3's get sold but a crapload of MBPs get sold too! Come on Apple-get off your @ss!

CNET review of Blu-Ray PC laptops:
http://reviews.cnet.com/4321-3121_7-6566399.html

my $.02

[yorkshire]

First it was WWDC, then late July, then August, then September 9th, then September 16th, then end of September, now potentially not even October 14th. I'm starting to think it's going to be MWSF '09.

[fastbite]

By the way, the 'crises' has nothing to do with release dates, because if Apple had to wait until we are all out of this mess they may be waiting 18 months minimum and maybe much, much longer.

[HyperX]

There is nothing being released this month! If we are lucky, we will get iPhone software update 2.2. That's it! People don't buy $2,000+ laptops for Christmas. They do that around the new school year.

So then Apple won't refresh their products till Summer of 2009? This isn't the mac mini we are talking about ;P

[jojasary]

my friend is a genius at the apple store by my house, and she sold her black macbook for the "october 14th" macbook. I don't know why she'd sell it unless she knew FOR SURE there were new ones

[g00k]

we all will get the new macbooks in 2030 due to eco crisis :)

[fastbite]

[QUOTE=HyperX;6371924]I think a lot of you are missing some key information on apple here.

1) Apple does keynotes when they have something big to show. This causes the stock to go up. Last event was meh, and they stock dove. So if there is a release of new notebooks, don't look for a keynote.

Actually the stock normally goes down after a keynote. look at the historical numbers.

[radionickhead]

Though it WOULD be nice to have a brand new alu macbook - I find it more important to have a laptop thats to "todays standards". I wouldve dished out the cash for the current basic macbook a year ago- but right now it's definetly not worth it's price tag.
You can flame all you want about "spec kiddies" or how you "dont need 3Ghz" to web browse...But I'm not going to buy an apple horse at the price of a new dell sports car, just because both of them can get me from A to B.

[g00k]

i didnt get the sense in events anyway...
just release these babies into the wild and we will check them out :D
no need for steve to tell me what to do

[HyperX]

[QUOTE=HyperX;6371924]I think a lot of you are missing some key information on apple here.

1) Apple does keynotes when they have something big to show. This causes the stock to go up. Last event was meh, and they stock dove. So if there is a release of new notebooks, don't look for a keynote.

Actually the stock normally goes down after a keynote. look at the historical numbers.

It surges though leaking up to the keynote. It's just impossible to beat expectations. Hence you take a REAL beating if you are showing a hat, sans rabbit, and its not even a really nice hat to begin with...

[EMT123]

This story highlights how consumers are not giving up buying electronics. There is still hope for an October release!

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/despite-economic-pressures-73-percent/story.aspx?guid={3BB9069B-17D5-4DF1-99FB-AD34CA11E34C}&dist=hppr

[BigD58]

Posted this elsewhere but think it still makes sense:

The thing with the MB and MBP is that there is unlikely to be anything to demonstrate. Yes, they may well be pretty, but that's not really enough for a presentation - the message will get across perfectly well, if not better, with high quality website/press release images. What would happen at the demo - "Here's the new MB and MBP - see how pretty they are! They are still made the same way as before because that lasers and solid metal business is, frankly, prepostorous. Instead, most of the ports are on the power adapter so that its kind of like a docking station. Any questions?". 2 minutes tops?

While the Let's Rock event was pretty light on ground-breaking hardware, it had software, particularly the new Genius feature, which really needed SJ to show it off and convince everyone it was a big deal. It wouldn't have worked to have released iTunes 8 without a demo.

I agree 100%. It just wouldnt make sense to waste all that time and money on showing new hardware, while they can accomplish the same thing with a couple of HD photos. But I do enjoy seeing the Jobs man himself:D

[Mousse]

So then Apple won't refresh their products till Summer of 2009? This isn't the mac mini we are talking about ;P

So I guess my long in the tooth 1st Gen MB will have to wait until next year to be a replaced by a MB with a proper GPU.:( Damn Taiwanese blogger getting me all excited over nothing.:mad:

[calisurfboy]

Anyone remember that vegetable of a woman in Flordia a few years ago that was tortured by being kept alive and fed through a feeding tube but nobody would let her husband pull the tube?

In todays day and age that vegetable is the Mac Mini.

Please Steve Jobs. Pull the tube. Let it die with dignity... end the... SUFFERING! =(

[USMCGuy]

I had a "heated" argument over this once. But, by :apple: Apple's definition a MacBook is NOT a laptop. It is a notebook computer. I find this out when I complained about the amount of heat it gives off and burns my legs when using it. They told me that they are NOT in the business of Laptops!!!

[Chic0]

Seems (and excuse me if this has been posted already and I've read through some and it seems it's been hinted) that a good bit of this community here is hell bent on blaming Apple for release dates they have never officially declared.


Couldn't agree more!

Dont get me wrong, I want new apple laptops as soon as like everyone else, but Apple cannot be blamed for these rumoured release dates.

[Chupa Chupa]

I would expect updates this month, but the redesign would likely be unveiled at MWSF.

TEG

It would be rather unprecedented for Apple to refresh a laptop only to come out with a new model two months later. I remember when Apple refreshed the MBP 4 months after it originally shipped back but I can't recall, in recent history, it ever replacing a machine in a shorter time span. If someone has a sharper memory on this please post details.

[Ramsav24]

Please update next week!! I've almost had it with my 12" iBook 600 mhz- yes, it's still running, although the screen has gone a bit funky colored on me. Come on Apple, I've had my money ready since August. I'm starting to think I should have just done the back to school special and gotten myself a new iPod while I was at it.

[Chupa Chupa]

I had a "heated" argument over this once. But, by :apple: Apple's definition a MacBook is NOT a laptop. It is a notebook computer. I find this out when I complained about the amount of heat it gives off and burns my legs when using it. They told me that they are NOT in the business of Laptops!!!

That's just B.S. put out by Apple in case of a lawsuit. The definition of a laptop and notebook are identical to most consumers the same as pants are to trousers.

[EngineerAndrew]

I have been waiting to buy a Macbook Pro until some major upgrades (you all have been asking for them for months), and keep hearing that the will be released soon. But the fact there havent been any is frustrating. :(

As much as I was hoping for an upgraded in October, the fact that Intel has not made a launch event for i7, I dont think there will be any Apple news. Why would apple have a big media event for a form factor change? Until Apple can ship units with the Core i7, I dont see why there would be a media event?

I think we have to wait until Macworld 2009 :mad:
But at least it not as bad as waiting for the cubbies to win the world sieries:D

[RHD]

Well look, rumour has it that Steve may not be all that well at the moment.
As he's always a key player at an event, is it not feasible that in this instance no event has been planned because he may not be up to it?

I hope that he's fine by the way and that this rumour is wrong.

[KissStephanie]

I'm glad I'm not in dire need of a new Macbook. The wait and non-information would kill me. Let them come when they are ready. Don't rush it.I've waited two years for an aluminium MacBook with better graphics that will handle Mac OS X 10.6 better, so if it's a bit longer to wait, then that is fine with me. In the meantime, I'm very happy with my iMac, and I will always keep my PowerBook. I love it, and it will still be very useful to me, even after I get one of the forthcoming aluminium MacBook's.

[Bugs78]

well, ive submitted a claim to my work for my computer-purchase loan (take cash from each cheque for 2 years, interest free)... Should have cash in hand by this time next week. With any luck, the new info will be solid by then. If not, I give it til nov1 and i will buy whats available. Hopefully not cure myself on Nov2.

May not be a big upgrade, but if im buying, id like to buy the most current/newest model.

[mrmids]

I just want a macbook with montevina chipset in it, led screen, multi touch and a slight speed bump, i would be happy with just that ....case redesign would be a big big bonus.

[dAlen]

Easy answer:

Currently, WE. KNOW. NOTHING. They'll happen when they happen, shut up with the whining why the current models will instantaneously break when the new ones come out and that's why you need to wait for a new one.

Yes, your right, they do instantaneously break when new ones come out...because they are broke from the beginning.

Look at the faulty Nvidia cards at the heart of the current macbook pros.
Dont need that. All the screen issues since they first put the LED in a pro laptop...come on Apple, some $$$ are being spent, fix it.

So, yes, it would be nice if they get around to updating stuff sooner than later. ;)
Im on a powerbook g4 667 that is standing on its last legs. (The screen is hanging on by a thread and hooked up to an external monitor...yeah, the apple issues with weak aluminum hinges on a titanium powerbook...) :)

Intel has the chips, Apple...what is your excuse...IBM used to be it, no use in waiting now.

Peace

dAlen

[dstrauss]

Why all this hype about the new NVIDIA chip as a boost to the Mac notebook line...aren't those NVIDIA chips that are falling like flies in the MacBook Pro systems already? :mad:

Wouldn't QC make you just a little bit nervous in a brand new (physical) redesign for the entire platform? :rolleyes:

So, putting 2 plus 2 together, aren't we really waiting until MacWorld for the bright, shiny new line of MacBooks? :(

[Eidorian]

Why all this hype about the new NVIDIA chip as a boost to the Mac notebook line...aren't those NVIDIA chips that are falling like flies in the MacBook Pro systems already? :mad:

Wouldn't QC make you just a little bit nervous in a brand new (physical) redesign for the entire platform? :rolleyes:

So, putting 2 plus 2 together, aren't we really waiting until MacWorld for the bright, shiny new line of MacBooks? :(Chipset != GPU

[skydragon]

Tuesday or hello PC!(HP, ASUS, SONY) :mad:

[flottenheimer]

Crossing my fingers for a "silent release" on the 14th now.
I'd simply love to splash the cash and thereby instill some hope into the financial markets. :-)

[fxstb2002]

A couple of things to consider:

1: Stocks of current computers are getting low as evidenced by some retailers like Best Buy being out of some or all models

2: Apple is not going to go months without replacing computers as the stock would plummet without a significant portion revenue stream

[BRLawyer]

By the way, the 'crises' has nothing to do with release dates, because if Apple had to wait until we are all out of this mess they may be waiting 18 months minimum and maybe much, much longer.

It's not exactly about the crisis, which is gonna last at least 2 years...it's about the momentum for a launch in a moment of pure insanity. One thing is to have continued downturn...another is to have huge stock market and currency tumbles every day.

[Mtn Tamale]

Of course Apple is putting off all press releases right now. They are a media machine. Right now the world is dominated by news of doom and gloom. They have to make a splash and the best way to do that is with innovative new products at a light period in the news cycle when everyone is tired of bad news. To come out right now and say "we have this great new way to spend money" when all anyone is seeing in the news is that there is going to be a big new Great Depression, that is stupid.

I'm certain that both the reality of the financial crisis and the news cycle surrounding it is what is guiding Apple's product release changes. The worst thing Apple can do is shoot their wad right now and have no effect in the marketplace. I wouldn't be surprised if they have decided just to do a minor update instead of the huge update they may have had planned one month ago.

They'll probably wait until January now to release anything dramatic so the world can actually watch sales fly, and their stock price will increase again.

[Detektiv-Pinky]

I know the "Dell" community doesn't run around going "COME ON where are new model inspirons you promised us" (yah bad example but you get the point) because HP said dell might be releasing new laptops.



Can't you see that Apple has build quite a nice little monopoly here? If Dell does not deliver me the configuration that is timely for the money I choose some other PC hardware vendor. This is not possible with Apple.
If I need to run OSX (because I have invested in it already) I am bound to the Apple release cycle - which is more than late...

[HyperX]

So I guess my long in the tooth 1st Gen MB will have to wait until next year to be a replaced by a MB with a proper GPU.:( Damn Taiwanese blogger getting me all excited over nothing.:mad:

I was being sarcastic ;P There shall be updates!

[slcoss]

People are taking these rumors and then holding Apple to them and when nothing comes around it's Apple's fault? How so?

I agree... we should then blame MacRumors for giving us false hope!!! :D

[brad.c]

The current economic crisis wouldn't stop a product launch: the new Blackberry Storm (http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1848163,00.html?cnn=yes) was announced today.

[gaspra]

Tuesday or hello PC!(HP, ASUS, SONY) :mad:

I do think Apple will loose some market if they postpone the Macbook release date. I watched the Dell Outlet inventories in last couple of days. There was a sharp increased sale in XPS M1330 models. Think about this, new macbook has aluminum cases similar to XPS M1330. They are actually similar in all aspects except different OS. People are buying stuffs with good looking these days. I would imagine new Macbook will look better than its competitors.

[BigD58]

....drop the iphone and ipod updates apple and get back to your roots. computers.

I like you.

[Loustic75]

Hi Guys

On my side is just see an upgrade on the 14th annouced from the apple store, with no specifics events because:

- The Nvidia thing on the 15th
- Date of the last update...too long....really too long!
- No design evolution...just the specs...Brick won't be ready, cause we would have known since ages about Apple producing bricks in the US...
- Even if they had planned to do one event, with what happened those last days to their stock shares...not the moment to make to much noise..Not sure a "normal person" will even pay attention to it

Cheers

[rattletrap99]

I haven't seen anyone comment, so I'll ask again--is this expected MBP update going to change the processor by a significant amount (I'd call a step to 2.8 or 3 GHz significant) or is it just going to be cosmetic and ergonomic?

What's the word?

Thx,

--Tim

[morespce54]

I've been waiting since January - the new Montevina chipset was originally due out in May. So I figured I'd wait. Now its October and no new laptops. I'm pissed off at this point.

Though there is one thing to say - perhaps with all the turmoil in the financial markets, and with the presidential election in the US in its last month, perhaps now isn't the best time to have a media event. Either wait until the election is over, or just push out the new laptops without the hoopla. If its not the latter, we wont see an media event until November 11th, possibly the 18th...

The problem with a (late) November release date is that I don't see how they would release newer versions again in January... Only two months later... :(

[Timichango]

the current selection is great. Buy now and be happy.

You see, that's just the thing - they're not. The mini is so long in the tooth it's practically a relic (*ahem* ripoff) based on the specs, and in the MBP... wait for it...

The. nVidia. 8600. Fails. Badly. A. Lot. That's not new news. nVidia putting aside 200,000,000 against the 8600s failing is a crap vote of confidence in the chip.

I need a pro-level machine - I DO NOT need to sit around wondering when the stupid thing is going to fail me in the middle of a client deadline on a $10,000 contract. It would be utterly stupid of me to go out and buy a laptop that's got a high likelihood of doing exactly that. On the flip side, I need a pro-level mac laptop NOW. See the conundrum?

Not so easy to buy and be happy, is it?

[mikespit1]

Tuesday or hello PC!(HP, ASUS, SONY) :mad:

This. Except I'll probably get a Sager or XPS 1530.

[morespce54]

Maybe they don't want to show off thin Steve Jobs

Well, he died from an heart attack, didn't you heard? ;)

Ahhh, rumors....

[hamzab]

Wait! So the New Mac's are getting Nvidias Prehistoric 8600?? Are you sure?

[iPaf]

I also think there won't be an event, as someone said in this topic, what do they want to show? Yes, it's a redesign, and you can say: "its pretty ain't it?" but is that worth a event?

Don't get me wrong here, i've been waiting 4-5 months now and i'm checking this damn forum every day, almost 20 times a day.:apple:

+1, but it's been 10 months :o

[MacsRgr8]

<snip>

Just wanted to say I like your sig:
__________________
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Apple fanatic.
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[lasuther]

What sucks for me is I sold my MacBook at the beginning of September when the rumors said the new MacBook would be released in September. Then it got pushed back to October. And I wouldn't be surprised if Oct 14th comes and it gets pushed back to November. So I'm stuck with my iMac waiting for a new MacBook to get released.

[puffnstuff]

A summary of the posts posted around macrumors forum for the past few weeks:

When are the invites coming?
There are no invites!
When is the event?
When are we going to here about the event?
OMG Apple teh sux0rs cuz I waited like for ever to get my MB.
OMG when is it going to happen
OMGGGGGG!!!!!! Is it oct 14? IS OCT 21??? OH NO IS IT DURING MACWORLD?
America is an economic crisis THE WORLD IS IN AN ECONOMIC CRISIS . Apple cares about the economic crisis so we will never see the mbs!!


:confused::confused:

[dcwckd]

Pretty reliable sources from Nvidia have seen the "new" Macbook and the "new" Macbook Pro. The machines haven't changed externally, only internally.
So for the people who can't wait: 14th of October there will be an update, for the people who want an alu Macbook: it isn't going to happen for a while.
Because the look hasn't changed, the prices can drop. I also dream of an alu Macbook with great GPU, great autonomy, great portability and sturdiness for about 750$, but I'm afraid it will remain a dream.
So, the 14th of October I'm buying a white Macbook.

You act like disguising a new MB/MBP in an old case is difficult. I suspect Apple would do this, to show the new features off to NVIDIA employees that worked hard on it.

[thesdx]

Oh, come on. I already sold my MacBook in preparation for the new ones. :mad: I can't live without it for a month. I sure hope they come the 14th or at least sometime in October.

[Orng]

I think Apple is missing the hole point>

holes with points = bad

[bytethese]

A summary of the posts posted around macrumors forum for the past few weeks:

When are the invites coming?
There are no invites!
When is the event?
When are we going to here about the event?
OMG Apple teh sux0rs cuz I waited like for ever to get my MB.
OMG when is it going to happen
OMGGGGGG!!!!!! Is it oct 14? IS OCT 21??? OH NO IS IT DURING MACWORLD?
America is an economic crisis THE WORLD IS IN AN ECONOMIC CRISIS . Apple cares about the economic crisis so we will never see the mbs!!


:confused::confused:

LOL. I love this post because it's true as I have added to this. :)

[element1108]

I got my last macbook pro in 2004 and would really like to upgrade. It's tough cause I personally don't want to buy a current model and have a new one for the same price with higher specs drop in a month...so I'll wait patiently.

Requiring an Intel Based Mac with enough power to run

http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/ and keep up with my on the road editing needs.

Poor power PC's are becoming obscelete with a lot of the new apple software "Intel Mac's only".

My Powermac G5 runs like a dream with enough power to boot, but is slowly being phased out by the intel chip.

[akm3]

Maybe they don't want to show off thin Steve Jobs

That's why Apple keeps making everything thinner, so Steve doesn't look as thin on stage. If he was next to one of the old Powerbooks, he'd look positively FRAIL!

[bytethese]

holes with points = bad

Useful in jail perhaps...

/zing

[Vulcan]

There most likely won't be an event until MacWorld. I hope that anyone still waiting goes and buys one after the 14th doesn't pull through (it's a rumor, just like the 30th and 16th) instead of keep waiting. I bought mine back in August when they were only "weeks away", got my free iPod Touch and if I hadn't moved then, I'd be with an old PowerBook and Nano still.

Anyway, Apple almost always has an event for major MacBook Pro/MacBook updates, changing the style on them would be (remember the TiBook to AlBook transition) one. But then again, they may not update the looks on them at all, and everyone waiting for the new style may miss out on the BTS Promo.

I strongly believe Apple is going to wait for the UK one to end first, so Nov - Jan has the best chance.

[laygr]

Tuesday or hello PC!(HP, ASUS, SONY) :mad:

I'm thinking the same. Just look at those PCs, they are updated and actually run vista fast enough and at a considerable lower price. Steve will have no reason for updating his MB and MBP as long as they're making good sales.

I have waited too much, if no update comes next week, I'll end with this game (having me waiting for a MBP update while PCs are actually updating) Steve is playing with me. :mad:

[vixapphire]

columbus day is no major holiday, just an excuse for banking/wallstreet execs and the post office to take the day off. i'm sure apple's announcement schedule won't be based off a day dedicated to some idiot who thought he hit india but "discovered" a continent already populated with advanced civilizations that was "discovered" a few centuries earlier by the vikings.

the best part of the columbus/america story is that some also-ran named amerigo vespucci managed to get the whole place named after himself rather than columbus. fail!

[iPaf]

Anyone remember that vegetable of a woman in Flordia a few years ago that was tortured by being kept alive and fed through a feeding tube but nobody would let her husband pull the tube?

In todays day and age that vegetable is the Mac Mini.

Please Steve Jobs. Pull the tube. Let it die with dignity... end the... SUFFERING! =(

Man... are you comparing a MACHINE with a HUMAN BEING? Completely inappropriate :(

[vixapphire]

the current selection is great. Buy now and be happy.

bought a last-generation new-old-stock 2.6 hi-res 17" loaded w/ 4GB RAM at smalldog last week for 2300. beat the living daylights out of the offerings at refurb. apparently they've still got a few left. you guys are all high on industrial solvents if you're not looking there first before the apple refurb store.

just sayin'.:apple:

[tingtongkoenie]

Long term lurker compelled to post...

Very frustrated :mad: by lack of movement, slowly weakening and might pick up a refurb 2.4ghz macbook from refurb store on 15th if nothing is released.

Same for me.
Or I must go for one of this nice Sony' Vaio's with simular prices.
Something to think about the next 5 days ....

[morespce54]

That's DEFINITELY the reason, and nothing else. The products are ready but Apple will NEVER release anything in the middle of such a turmoil. Why?

1) The relevant public will NOT notice and the launches shall not have any impact in light of the insanity of financial news;

2) Consumption, especially in the crumbling US economy and beginning also in many European economies, is sharply down;

3) Currencies are floating wildly, and interbank or intercompany financing is absolutely frozen all over the world. Trading companies are practically inactive as of now, and foreign markets would pay an undesirable premium for Apple products.

So any such launches are gonna happen in November, and this is an optimistic estimate. Don't dream about 14 October, as it's NOT gonna happen unless it's just about minor things and speed bumps.

Maybe but what if the US economy is still down in six or nine months from now? Would they hold on that long? Then they would finally release models from 1 1/2 year old?

[viccles]

I still think there is a chance for a silent upgrade on the 14th, otherwise they might be on the 31st of October or a week after when the UK promo ends

[swingerofbirch]

AFAIK, the original MacBook didn't have an event. The MacBook Air did, but that was an entirely new product line. And these events are less orgasmic and more infomercial these days, anyhow.

[tingtongkoenie]

Welcome you lurkers, enjoy the rumors!

:D:D:D

[puffnstuff]

Anybody see this?
http://macislove.com/is-this-the-new-macbook-pro/

[TheSVD]

Maybe but what if the US economy is still down in six or nine months from now? Would they hold on that long? Then they would finally release models from 1 1/2 year old?

yeah thats true, i dont think theyd base it on economy, cause who knows who long the "credit crunch" will last!

And i dunno about an event... it could happen, especially if theres is brand new features, i.e new mbp track pads etc, but i doubt an event still, its just not big enough!
I do see speed bumps coming soon, but not complete rehauls.. i see that in Jan 09, cause i can see jobs showcasing these new fangled mb and mbps, even perhaos with some mac minis and mac pros.

And maybe even a preview of snow leopard?
I mean, what else is going to be at the event if they release the new lappys now?
Its not what you want to hear, its not what i want to hear either, cause i wanna order my mbp - but its kinda truthful :(

[dingus]

Mother ****er!

[coma2black]

Anybody see this?
http://macislove.com/is-this-the-new-macbook-pro/

interesting ...;) but we will newer know until the release... so many fakes were/are around till now so i am really really curious if this is a real leak

[Orng]

Ditto.

I find those who forcefully say "just buy now!" (i'm not referring to all the 'just-buy-now'ers) seem annoyed with us for waiting. But then it seems like many times they are the ones who buy new models often, so if they happen to buy tech that is half a year old, it doesn't matter as much because they will replace it in a year. For me, I've been saving for this machine for several years, and won't be able to replace it for a long time, so I don't want to get a machine that is already dated when a few weeks patience would have yielded brand new tech.

But I've held off long enough that my work flow is hampered and a week is about all I can afford to wait.

I totally hear ya. Although I have the cash now, last couple years it hasn't been easy to stash away an extra couple hundred bucks every now and then into the MBP fund. That's why I'm rockin' a 2002 G4 Powermac with a barely functional Final Cut Pro so I can just barely do work at home.
And that's also why I'm looking forward to two things next week: New Macbook Pros, and the federal election in Canada. Conservative governments always seem to make me poor, wtf? If all goes well, I'll be picking up my MBP and voting down the government in one trip. That's like my dream date. :cool:

[iRez]

everybody saying that a case redesign isn't worth an event are either noobs or don't remember the release of the alu books. a case redesign is a HUGE deal, who's to say that the redesign doesn't have something revolutionary built into it that could take advantage of something apples built in the os long ago that we've never had privy of before because we lacked the hardware to take advantage of it (ala mac os x being universal binary for sometime before the intel macs were released).

maybe its a tablet, maybe its a notebook/tablet, possibilities are endless and the fact that most of you expect leaks is a joke. i remember the days where getting even the smallest bit of info it was a huge deal, if apple is indeed manufacturing in house i could see why there are no leaks as of yet.

apple doesn't need to give us any updates or info on their next release and all you people complaining that it's taking too long, blame sites like macrumors or 9to5 instead of apple...because these sites are the ones putting "reputations on the line" or telling you a new 'book is imminent when it actually isn't.

i've been waiting for a new macbook since july and will continue to wait happily even though my macbook pro finally quit on me last week (work computer and iphone is all i have now :[ ). why am i not mad? because i'm a grown adult that understands if i need something now i buy something now, i can afford to wait...i'll wait. all any of us know is there are updates inevitable and will be released sometime in the future.

ps. MACRUMORS OR ANY OTHER RUMOR SITE IS FULL OF EXACTLY THAT...RUMORS, NOT FACT.

[morespce54]

Snow Leopard is 9 months away, so not going to happen.

And that's optimistic... *cough* leopard *cough*

[laygr]

...why am i not mad? because i'm a grown adult that understands if i need something now i buy something now, i can afford to wait...i'll wait. all any of us know is there are updates inevitable and will be released sometime in the future.


I wish I was a grown adult. :rolleyes:

[JamesWilk]

I was speaking with a friend and apples sales for the christmas season (targets) have rose and without any new products coming it would be very hard for them to reach that goal. So its a good chance we will see at least SOMETHING new.

btw those are laptop based number not all apple products and this is for best buy.

[Kilamite]

btw those are laptop based number not all apple products and this is for best buy.

You're telling me Best Buy has a seperate allocation for targets just for Apple laptops? All the retailers I've worked in, it is laptops in general, not a specific manufacture of laptop.

[coma2black]

apple doesn't need to give us any updates or info on their next release and all you people complaining that it's taking too long, blame sites like macrumors or 9to5 instead of apple...because these sites are the ones putting "reputations on the line" or telling you a new 'book is imminent when it actually isn't.



who wants to buy outdated electronics? my opinion is that they should cut the prices to be compatible or update because in my eyes the MBs/MBPs with this specification at this time, are overpriced! Apple or not, to offer an notebook with 2,1gig processor with 1gig ram for 1.100$(1.100€ in my case-> that is about 1.500$ :eek:) is just too much. I thing Apple will screw up a lot if they do not update their computers regularly and so loose a lot of (potential) costumers. Today other companies are not that far away from Apple as they were in history and for the use of Os X there are a lot of other possibilities (hackintosh, efi-x, maybe psystar in the future...)


edit: typo

[morespce54]

Seems (and excuse me if this has been posted already and I've read through some and it seems it's been hinted) that a good bit of this community here is hell bent on blaming Apple for release dates they have never officially declared.

One post I noticed was "Apple you can't do this to me" yet Apple hasn't said anything. People are taking these rumors and then holding Apple to them and when nothing comes around it's Apple's fault? How so?...

You're right but, personally, I'm mad at Apple if they don't release new MB/MBP in October. Not because Apple said so (you're right, they never committed themselves) but because it's about frigging time! ;)

[coma2black]

You're right but, personally, I'm mad at Apple if they don't release new MB/MBP in October. Not because Apple said so (you're right, they never committed themselves) but because it's about frigging time! ;)

exactly that is my point!

[Mtn Tamale]

No, its not about the financial crisis per se, but it is about the news cycle of the financial crisis. We will all be over hearing about it everyday and will come to terms with the new reality in the next several months. That is the time for Apple to start releasing exciting new products.

They don't want hot new product announcements lost in this news cycle.

Maybe but what if the US economy is still down in six or nine months from now? Would they hold on that long? Then they would finally release models from 1 1/2 year old?

[aznguyen316]

Very surprised we haven't heard anything.. oh well I got a MacBook about two weeks ago, used locally, so I'm okay, glad I didn't wait b/c I don't think I could have haha got it for a good price so I'm straight.

[Djmx]

PEOPLE...PEOPLE!! LISTEN UP...

Apple won't have a Media Event.. They aren't releasing something.. esp. since they just had a Event barely a month ago. it Makes sense! They'll (HOPEFULLY) release the MBP/MB silently.. like they did with the iMacs and others.. and right now the sales are pretty down. because everyone is waiting for "The NEW MBP" so they have to do it...!


:apple:

[Chupa Chupa]

One other thing...

Apple's Q4 conference call is set for Oct 22. I am sure Apple is going to want to have new product out by then so they have something to crow about and to justify Q4 sales projections. Apple's customers are not the only ones that need to see new product. AAPL and Apple is depending on it.

[jojo13]

PEOPLE...PEOPLE!! LISTEN UP...

Apple won't have a Media Event.. They aren't releasing something.. esp. since they just had a Event barely a month ago. it Makes sense! They'll (HOPEFULLY) release the MBP/MB silently.. like they did with the iMacs and others.. and right now the sales are pretty down. because everyone is waiting for "The NEW MBP" so they have to do it...!


:apple:

hope you are right:rolleyes:

[Ironduke]

up your a$$ jobsey

Resign now and let a man with a pair of tezzy's take over:cool:

[bcrawf]

If all they've got is a new case, what's the rush? :p

[BRLawyer]

Maybe but what if the US economy is still down in six or nine months from now? Would they hold on that long? Then they would finally release models from 1 1/2 year old?

Please see my posts further in the thread...you will understand my point, which is NOT to say that Apple is not launching...it's just that this exact point is not the wise one for any product launch...November makes more sense, or in optimistic terms, late October.

And for those that still think Apple is immune to economic shocks:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/10/08/apple_cancels_colorado_call_center_citing_economy_reduced_iphone_calls.html

[MeTzGuY45]

For what it's worth, I'm a student at BU and the past few weeks employees at the University Computers store have confirmed upon the October 14th refresh date. Whether or not they read rumor sites or not, I don't know. However, today, they began a sale on all MB and MBP. It seems kind of suspicious that a store would do this without some sort of idea of new products in the pipeline.

[JadedRaverLA]

You all worry too much.

Optiarc (Sony/NEC joint venture) has a new 9.5mm BD burner, that is coming out in the new Sony 11.1" TZ series on October 15. I don't think that's a coincidence at all -- nor do I think they devoted the resources to mass producing the optical drive for ONE notebook model that costs over $4k (the specs are pretty insane for an ultraportable -- Blu-ray, DUAL SSDs in a RAID config, etc).

My prediction (FWIW): New notebooks from Apple ARE coming October 14, and Sony is giving Apple a 1 day lead on the new optical drive, so Apple can say they were "first" with the "world's thinnest Blu-ray drive." The lack of an Apple event to "invite the world press to brag how we just reinvented the wheel" doesn't mean anything... other than they've (possibly) finally realized how pointless those events are... or (more realistically), since its not an iPod/iPhone, they know the mainstream press won't care in the least anyway. There's nothing "sexy" about a notebook launch.

[Casabian]

since its not an iPod/iPhone, they know the mainstream press won't care in the least anyway. There's nothing "sexy" about a notebook launch.

Quite agree with that. I remember seeing ad, after ad when the iPhone came out (still seeing them now), but I've never seen one for a Macbook, bar the Air, and they didn't show for very long.

Apple know exactly who their target audience are, and they don't need a media event to tell them new models are available, it'll be plastered all other news sites and such (such as Engadget, Apple Insider, etc.) within minutes. I don't think a big flashy media event will happen, simply because redesigned notebooks won't attract your average Joe to Apple, which is what they usually try to do.

I still hope for refreshes on 14th, if not, I can wait. Aluminium casing would be very nice, but it's not exactly something I look for when I make the decision to buy a "Notebook Computer" :).

[MisterEnygma]

You all worry too much.

Optiarc (Sony/NEC joint venture) has a new 9.5mm BD burner, that is coming out in the new Sony 11.1" TZ series on October 15. I don't think that's a coincidence at all -- nor do I think they devoted the resources to mass producing the optical drive for ONE notebook model that costs over $4k (the specs are pretty insane for an ultraportable -- Blu-ray, DUAL SSDs in a RAID config, etc).

My prediction (FWIW): New notebooks from Apple ARE coming October 14, and Sony is giving Apple a 1 day lead on the new optical drive, so Apple can say they were "first" with the "world's thinnest Blu-ray drive." The lack of an Apple event to "invite the world press to brag how we just reinvented the wheel" doesn't mean anything... other than they've (possibly) finally realized how pointless those events are... or (more realistically), since its not an iPod/iPhone, they know the mainstream press won't care in the least anyway. There's nothing "sexy" about a notebook launch.

Very well put :-)

Some people are still very apprehensive of a Blu-Ray drive in the MBP, but we can hope, can't we?

[lhotka]

Very well put :-)

Some people are still very apprehensive of a Blu-Ray drive in the MBP, but we can hope, can't we?

I hope not - it eats batteries.

I just hope we have Matte screens on the 15" model.

[swagi]

Please see my posts further in the thread...you will understand my point, which is NOT to say that Apple is not launching...it's just that this exact point is not the wise one for any product launch...November makes more sense, or in optimistic terms, late October.

And for those that still think Apple is immune to economic shocks:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/10/08/apple_cancels_colorado_call_center_citing_economy_reduced_iphone_calls.html

I just have to requote what others have said: If Apple really thinks, it's unwise to release a product in the crisis, then they are really stupid.

Currently news is getting old and after the weekend the Spin Doctors in the media will need a new horse.

And OTOH what can an updated MB/MBP offer, that is really newsworthy. Come on, ever read news like "Sony releases new Vaio laptop line with real 16:9 display ratio and BluRay across the board" on CNN. (Yes they just did, and they actually bundle it with Adobe Lightroom :cool: )

I'm with Ars. I see a silent update.

And if Apple waits out more, they will lose a whole lot of notebook sales. I myself must say, that the new Vaio AW-Series is really tempting.

Only thing, that would justify a media event, would be Apple's "One more thing" Ultraportable. BTW, when was the last time, Steve introduced a 'one more thing' worthy gadget? Must have been lost in the iPhone era...

[calisurfboy]

Mmmm

[iMacmatician]

New laptops in January with SnowLeop. Snow Leopard's not coming until mid 2009.

At best a speed bump between now and then. And I'm not sure about two updates happening within two months.

Has Apple ever shipped new MacBooks in October? Not that I can recall. There was a minor bump last November -- but I repeat it was a minor bump. If a major revision is at hand, why would Apple not wait until MacWorld Expo when the entire world is watching and no longer preoccupied with the election or (I hope) the plunging stock market? An October release makes no sense.Because Apple would have actual new products (not just redesigns) for MWSF? Mac mini, Intel Macs, iPhone, MacBook Air?

Pretty reliable sources from Nvidia have seen the "new" Macbook and the "new" Macbook Pro. May I see a link to these sources?

The machines haven't changed externally, only internally.Which goes against every rumor I've heard on this (not just a few).

So for the people who can't wait: 14th of October there will be an update, It's possible, I'm sure if so, it'll be silent.

for the people who want an alu Macbook: it isn't going to happen for a while.Nope - Aluminum MacBooks are coming soon.

Because the look hasn't changed, the prices can drop. They're not mutually exclusive.

I also dream of an alu Macbook with great GPU, great autonomy, great portability and sturdiness for about 750$, but I'm afraid it will remain a dream.Not for long. ;)

So, the 14th of October I'm buying a white Macbook.If there is an update on October 14, I'll probably get a new aluminum MacBook (Pro). :)

As much as I was hoping for an upgraded in October, the fact that Intel has not made a launch event for i7, I dont think there will be any Apple news. Core i7 is for high-end desktops.

Why would apple have a big media event for a form factor change? Yeah, why? Why is everybody expecting October 14 (or whenever) to be an event? Come to think of it, there's really no good reason to have an event if there wasn't software too.

Until Apple can ship units with the Core i7, I dont see why there would be a media event? Nehalem for notebooks is not coming until about the turn of 2009-2010.

I haven't seen anyone comment, so I'll ask again--is this expected MBP update going to change the processor by a significant amount (I'd call a step to 2.8 or 3 GHz significant) or is it just going to be cosmetic and ergonomic?Probably both.

The problem with a (late) November release date is that I don't see how they would release newer versions again in January... Only two months later... :(Maybe because they won't?

everybody saying that a case redesign isn't worth an event are either noobs or don't remember the release of the alu books.So why did the original MacBook not get an event?

[Dybbuk]

itt: lunatic apple fans pretend to be marketing geniuses and economists

[pimentoLoaf]

When I was at a SE Wisconsin Apple Store today, a sales-babe asked if I needed help, and when I said "I'm waiting for next week's new computers" she said she wasn't aware of any new system, only to quickly hurry off.

Read into that what you will. :cool:

[polee]

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8320/4.2.2 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/167)

It is only but a few days away. A radical case design would prompt for a media event, whereas previous portables released from Apple spawned mild press releases. Perhaps the case design isn't as radical as believed? Maybe just a minor update on 14th and new ones in Jan?

This is very likely I believe.

[pimentoLoaf]

WTF? My 5-year old 12-inch Powerbook is slowly giving up the ghost, and I need a new Aluminium MacBook to replace it. I've been waiting for the new MacBooks for months now. Apple, YOU CAN'T DO THIS TO ME! :eek:

Normally, I don't bother rating a story, but I had to rate this one negative.

Same here, though for me it's a 17" pB used for audio & graphics stuff.

[VTECaddict]

For the people saying news of a MacBook release will get buried under news about the economic situation and the election...are you serious?! Do you have your heads so far up Apple's butt that you think something like this is "news" worthy?

I'm sorry to inform you, but Apple product releases are not headline material. So financial crisis or not, election year or not, news of a Mac release would already be "buried" under more important and more relevant news. What coverage does a Mac release get in the newspaper or evening news? A quick blurb in an editorial column? A short article in the technology section? Thirty seconds of coverage on why massive lines are mysteriously forming in front of Apple and AT&T stores?

The people that DO cover Apple releases thoroughly - like tech blogs, magazines, rumor sites - will have that information front and center regardless, because that is what they report on and they wont have articles talking about the election or economy to "bury" it. There will always, always be news bigger than an Apple product launch. Stop trying to make up excuses to justify Apple.

Arguments that Apple is waiting out the financial fallout in hopes of better economic conditions for a product launch are equally absurd. Look past the Kool-Aid to see that Apple hardware is falling MONTHS behind in technology compared to PC counterparts, and still charging an exorbitant premium. What good would waiting accomplish? It would only hurt Apple even more because potential Mac buyers will turn (back) to a PC with newer technology and much better "bang for the buck" - something that is all the more relevant in harsh economic times. Now, the Mac faithful will buy Mac no matter what, but there are a lot of PC people waiting for the refresh to switch over to Mac (me included). And its those customers that Apple needs to worry about because its those customers who will expand their bottom line and grow their market share. Those customers are not tied into OS X (yet) and will easily pick up a new PC instead if Apple doesn't do anything soon.

Also, have we forgotten the rumored price drops on the new line of MacBooks? With an "aggressive entry level price"? If true, the refresh couldn't come at a better time than now. What's more music to peoples' ears in a down economy than something that's cheaper?

Minor update now and full refresh at MWSF. That makes completely no sense at all. If they were going to do this, why wait this long to do it? Intel has released Montevina for months now, so if they were to do this they could have and should have done it months ago. Then you're saying they will completely update again a little more than 2 months later? Completely absurd. No company releases something just to completely replace it 2 months later.

[Clayne]

So many people are pissed! See how many negative there are, as opposed to positives.

[Rassybat]

I hope they release the new line next week.

If not I'll probably end up getting the black MacBook .

Typing this with my 2gen touch, hope it doesn't come out weird lol!!

[zambia1989]

For the people saying news of a MacBook release will get buried under news about the economic situation and the election...are you serious?! Do you have your heads so far up Apple's butt that you think something like this is "news" worthy?

I'm sorry to inform you, but Apple product releases are not headline material. So financial crisis or not, election year or not, news of a Mac release would already be "buried" under more important and more relevant news. What coverage does a Mac release get in the newspaper or evening news? A quick blurb in an editorial column? A short article in the technology section? Thirty seconds of coverage on why massive lines are mysteriously forming in front of Apple and AT&T stores?

The people that DO cover Apple releases thoroughly - like tech blogs, magazines, rumor sites - will have that information front and center regardless, because that is what they report on and they wont have articles talking about the election or economy to "bury" it. There will always, always be news bigger than an Apple product launch. Stop trying to make up excuses to justify Apple.

Arguments that Apple is waiting out the financial fallout in hopes of better economic conditions for a product launch are equally absurd. Look past the Kool-Aid to see that Apple hardware is falling MONTHS behind in technology compared to PC counterparts, and still charging an exorbitant premium. What good would waiting accomplish? It would only hurt Apple even more because potential Mac buyers will turn (back) to a PC with newer technology and much better "bang for the buck" - something that is all the more relevant in harsh economic times. Now, the Mac faithful will buy Mac no matter what, but there are a lot of PC people waiting for the refresh to switch over to Mac (me included). And its those customers that Apple needs to worry about because its those customers who will expand their bottom line and grow their market share. Those customers are not tied into OS X (yet) and will easily pick up a new PC instead if Apple doesn't do anything soon.

Also, have we forgotten the rumored price drops on the new line of MacBooks? With an "aggressive entry level price"? If true, the refresh couldn't come at a better time than now. What's more music to peoples' ears in a down economy than something that's cheaper?

Minor update now and full refresh at MWSF. That makes completely no sense at all. If they were going to do this, why wait this long to do it? Intel has released Montevina for months now, so if they were to do this they could have and should have done it months ago. Then you're saying they will completely update again a little more than 2 months later? Completely absurd. No company releases something just to completely replace it 2 months later.

THANKYOU for one a refreshingly sensible piece of input!

Can i re-iterate this? It makes NO SENSE for Apple to have an event for something as mundane as updating its notebook lines. It isn't going to happen. The only way it COULD happen would be if they are launched at an already scheduled event-MacWorld.

I mean-picture this: Steve Jobs coming on stage. 10 minutes of "they are aluminium. They have the Macbook Air keyboard. They are pretty, and thinner, and green. And one more thing-they cost less. Thanks for coming folks." You think tech magazines are going to send people from around the world for THAT? Wake up.

The big thing about the new Macbooks is that they will be cheaper. Just like the iPods are getting cheaper, as is (supposedly) the iPhone. Apples strategy now is to make their products more accessible to new customers, in order to take advantage of the halo effect from iPods and the iPhone and the fact Vista is so shoddy. So there won't be anything outrageous, just very stunning, good quality, modern laptops, at a lower price with better specs.

And for me, I can't wait.

[drfaust206]

I don't get the logic behind it when people say "The economy is bad, so Apple won't release anything".

A slow economy + new products + lots of inventory = bleh sales

A slow economy + no new products + dwindling inventory = REALLY bad sales

[alexlovesmacs]

Please Apple release the MacBook the 14th please!:rolleyes:

[mprince]

Amazon has mail in rebates on mb and mbp models between $50 and $100.

The promotion runs 10/7 through 10/27, what does this mean? I wish I knew ... it really doesn't tell us much, except ... they will be coming soon ...

Surely someone knows something .. I am reading things like:

* My Friend at apple said they are working late on the 14th and there is training that day.

* Person at apple store says that there will be new notebooks on the 14th

* Nvidia moves chipset release to 15th ....

* There will be an event ... there won't ...

These things are not designed and made by oompa-loompas right? There are PEOPLE working at apple (and people like to talk) .... this release is more guarded than the secret herbs and spices at KFC!!!

SOMEONE has to know something ... someone at Nvidia, at intel ... SOMEWHERE!!!

[JadedRaverLA]

I hope not - it eats batteries.

I just hope we have Matte screens on the 15" model.

Ummm... all optical drives "eat" batteries (so to speak) if you are reading or writing a disc for hours at a time. If you aren't they have absolutely no effect. I've never understood this line of logic against the inclusion of BD drives. If you aren't watching a movie or writing a disc, the drive isn't in use, and there's virtually no power consumption. If you are writing a disc for an hour, then yes, it will use power. If you kept a standard DVD burner writing a disc for an hour, it would use a considerable amount of power as well.

Now, it is true that the blue-violet laser used to read BDs does require some more power, so there is an increase though not that much... and much of Optiarc's development for their latest drives (including the new 9.5mm drive) has been to lower the power requirements... in addition to substantially shrinking the OPU.

Not that this really matters... but I just don't get the "power" argument. :confused:

But, yeah, I hope they keep the matte screen option as well. :)

[samscam]

Hey whatever... I'd totally understand a delay till post-election and as other posters mentioned the US (and much of the rest of the world for that matter) will be doolally happy in munchkin land with their shiny new president, attention span for economic doom will have waned and the papers will be wanting to fill space with something, anything else.

Contrary to someone or other who says that the media doesn't pick up on apple launches, the nano launch made front page news on some papers here in the UK - admittedly mainly about Jobs - the Independent ran with "Rumours of my death are greatly exaggerated" or whichever mis-quote jobs actually said. But there was plenty of product splash within.

Look my guess is that if they are going to do something REALLY big they will wait and do an event. But it would have to be some massive list of across-the-board updates and redesigns (Portables, desktops, firewire s3200, new graphics ports, blu-ray, the lot). Otherwise I'm feeling people are right that it will be a quieter laptop-only affair which they can (frankly) do whenever they feel like with a bit of smart marketing. Timing is still important and I don't think any of us can truly second guess strategic private boardroom-level decisions - even if we can guess the parameters.

[Bmuse21]

Why not, they can call him Steve Jobs Air. He'd come out of an interoffice envelope at the media event! :)

This made me literally laugh out loud. Nice. :D


When I was at a SE Wisconsin Apple Store today, a sales-babe asked if I needed help, and when I said "I'm waiting for next week's new computers" she said she wasn't aware of any new system, only to quickly hurry off.

Read into that what you will. :cool:

...she's just not that into you..? ;)

Amazon has mail in rebates on mb and mbp models between $50 and $100.

They have those most of the time... I wouldn't take it as a sign either way.

I think VTECaddict's post (#240) was excellent and made a great point. (I won't quote the whole thing.) It does beg the question: would they really release [relatively] minor updates for the holiday shopping season, then 2 months later make them obsolete with a new design and much better specs, when consumers are post-Christmas broke?

Which also begs another question: if the 14th (or whatever) comes and there IS only a minor refresh, how then do we decide whether to buy? Will people really be willing to spend Apple-amounts of cash with the risk of updates in 60 days?

Sheesh, this is madness! :o

[fxstb2002]

I don't see why Apple couldn't just throw everyone off, and just release them as a one more thing at the nvidia event on the 15th. It would be just crazy.

In my mind, nvidia is announcing their new chipset, and someone in Jim Ross style (WWE) screams "My God! It's Steve Jobs! and he's got the new macbook pro!" Then Steve clears the stage with head shots all around using the mbp like a steel chair. Then Steve calmly boots up the mbp, which has sustained no damage, because it is a freaking brick.

I know. I have issues.