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Cleverboy
Oct 9, 2008, 05:41 PM
So, this was an old email that's been forwarded around ad infinitum. I'm curious though.

While the e-mail makes many FAIR points, many of its points are predictable UNFAIR (like fallout from 9/11, unless you blame the Bush administration for not reading the information passed to it and keeping on top of Osama Bin Laden), and others somewhat dubious. If you were being objective, what items in the list would remain (as "reasonable") after you were done?
I am the first President in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.
I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one billion dollars per week.
I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury.
I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history.
I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.
I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.
I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the U.S. stock market. In my first year in office, over 2 million Americans lost their jobs and that trend continues.
I'm proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history. My "poorest millionaire, " Condoleezza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.
I set the record for most campaign fundraising trips by a U.S. President.
I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for receiving the most corporate campaign donations.
My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best friends, Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in U.S. history, Enron.
My political party used Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election decision.
I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton against investigation or prosecution. More time and money was spent investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair than has been spent investigating one of the biggest corporate rip-offs in history.
I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed.
I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history.
I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.
I appointed more convicted criminals to my administration than any President in U.S. history.
I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the largest bureaucracy in the history of the United States Government.
I've broken more international treaties than any President in U.S. history.
I am the first President in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission.
I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law.
I refused to allow inspectors access to U.S. "prisoners of war" detainees and thereby have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention.
I am the first President in history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 US election)
I set the record for fewest numbers of press conferences of any President since the advent of television.
I set the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one-year period. After taking off the entire month of August, I presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history.
I garnered the most sympathy ever for the U.S. after the World Trade Center attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most hated country in the world, the largest failure of diplomacy in world history.
I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people), shattering the record for protests against any person in the history of mankind
I am the first President in U.S. history to order an unprovoked, preemptive attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. I did so against the will of the United Nations, the majority of U.S. Citizens and the world community.
I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut in duty benefits for active duty troops and their families In wartime.
In my State of the Union Address, I lied about our reasons for attacking Iraq and then blamed the lies on our British friends.
I am the first President in history to have a majority of Europeans (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and security.
I am supporting development of a nuclear "Tactical Bunker Buster," a WMD.
I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to bring Osama Bin Laden to justice.

Then, what "negative firsts" do you think an Obama or McCain would bring into office? Sarah Palin has charged that electing Barack Obama would "diminish the prestige of the Presidency of the U.S.". Why might she be right (because this is about "negatives", we don't care why she might be wrong)? Why might McCain be even more inclined to diminish that "prestige"? No imaginary "predictive" entries, please. :)

Barack Obama:

I am the first President in U.S. history to have publically admitted using cocaine.
I am the only President in U.S. history to have uttered the word "motherf*cker" when reading for the audiobook version of my autobiography.
While professing to be a champion of womens rights, my campaign for my party's nomination succeeded in defeating the first viable female candidate for the U.S. presidency.


John McCain:

I am the first President in U.S. history to have been censured by the legislative branch even before becoming President of the United States. (True? Historians needed)
I am the first President in U.S. history to have decided on his Vice President based on a 15 minute interview.
While serving in the navy, I crashed three planes but relied on familial connections to prevent being kicked out on my ass.



Bring on the bad news! What negative FIRSTS are we in for? Was the first list too hard on Bush? What's your opinion?

~ CB



rdowns
Oct 9, 2008, 05:47 PM
Obama:

First black President.
First President to pal around with terrorists. :eek:


McCain:

Told more lies in final 30 days of campaign than all other Presidential candidates combined.

spikespike
Oct 9, 2008, 05:50 PM
1. I'm sure Bush and other Presidents have done coke.
2. Thats such a ridiculously specific catagory.
3. What was the man supposed to do?

"Because I'm such a feminist, I've decided to withdraw from the race so Hilary can win."

That doesn't make sense.

skunk
Oct 9, 2008, 05:52 PM
Bring on the bad news! What negative FIRSTS are we in for? Was the first list too hard on Bush? What's your opinion?McCain The first presidential candidate to have by my own admission made propaganda broadcasts on behalf of an enemy in time of war.

yg17
Oct 9, 2008, 05:52 PM
Does anyone have a clip of Obama saying motherf*cker. Because I have to hear it to believe it :D

Cleverboy
Oct 9, 2008, 06:03 PM
1. I'm sure Bush and other Presidents have done coke. 2. Thats such a ridiculously specific catagory.
3. What was the man supposed to do?
"Because I'm such a feminist, I've decided to withdraw from the race so Hilary can win." That doesn't make sense. lol. Well, its a list of negatives... they're certainly not sympathetic, and they don't have to make absolute sense, just enough to paint a clear picture, make the hit and sound convincing. Many on the Bush list are very specific to him. That's not a dis qualifier.
Does anyone have a clip of Obama saying motherf*cker. Because I have to hear it to believe it :D Well, sure... it makes ME laugh, but I'm not gonna supply firepower to anyone more than noting its there. He's actually speaking AS someone else he's talking to... someone with a very colorful tongue. ;) That line alone disqualifies the audiobook from being played to children, though... I wonder how many people know ahead of time. :p In the foreward to the book, I think he acknowledges that many passages are somewhat "unfortunate" now in retrospect. You can't live your life as if you'll run for President in a few years I guess.

Obama: First black President. I suppose that's a negative in some circles. :)
McCain: Told more lies in final 30 days of campaign than all other Presidential candidates combined. Somewhat unprovable I think. I'm not sure he gets credit for repeating the same lies, either. He's not that creative. :)

~ CB

Anuba
Oct 9, 2008, 06:08 PM
John McCain:

I am the first president to be 1 year older and look 15 years older than the previous record holder in the Oldest Ever category.

I am the first president in U.S. history to refer to my fellow Americans as my fellow prisoners.

I am the first president who says "my friends" more often than "and", "the" and "of".

I am the first president to wear Depends.

I am the first president to release a negative attack ad that attacks an opponent for releasing negative attack ads when we both agreed not to use negative attack ads at all, without detecting the irony.

I am the first president with a goiter on my face.

NT1440
Oct 9, 2008, 06:25 PM
I dont understand the womans rights one. Was he supposed to step aside because shes a woman? isnt that sexism?

Cleverboy
Oct 9, 2008, 06:26 PM
Barack Obama:
* In my campaign for Presidency, I raised more money than any other candidate in U.S. history, rejected public funding limitations, and subsequently spent more money than any campaign in history, outspending my opponents before and after the party primaries often by a factor of three to one.

* While not a first, I was elected President before I'd even completed my first term as a junior senator of Illinois.

* Many of the candidates on my party short list for Vice President publicly declined/renounced that they would even consider accepting that role in my administration. I ended up choosing a politician who was almost a mirror image of my opponent in age and experience, who publicly disagreed with my policy statements, and had only previously offered as compliment that I was "clean and articulate".

I dont understand the womans rights one. Was he supposed to step aside because shes a woman? isnt that sexism? No... its irony. You champion women's rights, and the first REAL chance a woman has to be President, and you clobber her, gasping across the finish line in almost a photo finish. It would be the same irony for Clinton, given their background on civil rights, and Bill Clinton's status as "first black president". It doesn't mean anyone should "step aside", but its a tough pill to swallow nonetheless.

~ CB

yg17
Oct 9, 2008, 06:33 PM
lol. Well, its a list of negatives... they're certainly not sympathetic, and they don't have to make absolute sense, just enough to paint a clear picture, make the hit and sound convincing. Many on the Bush list are very specific to him. That's not a dis qualifier.
Well, sure... it makes ME laugh, but I'm not gonna supply firepower to anyone more than noting its there. He's actually speaking AS someone else he's talking to... someone with a very colorful tongue. ;) That line alone disqualifies the audiobook from being played to children, though... I wonder how many people know ahead of time. :p In the foreward to the book, I think he acknowledges that many passages are somewhat "unfortunate" now in retrospect. You can't live your life as if you'll run for President in a few years I guess.

I suppose that's a negative in some circles. :)
Somewhat unprovable I think. I'm not sure he gets credit for repeating the same lies, either. He's not that creative. :)

~ CB


Awww...PM it to me at least :D I won't use it for evil, I want this guy to be elected ;)