Apple's New $899 Product is an LED Display and Not a MacBook?

[MacRumors]

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Based on information we've gathered it seems the $899 product that has appeared on Apple's product lists (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/10/13/macbook-and-macbook-pro-part-numbers-and-prices-899-macbook/) is likely an LED Apple Cinema Display and not a low-end MacBook.

AppleInsider (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/10/13/new_photo_reveals_macbook_pro_with_black_display_bezel.html) also confirms that new displays with a DisplayPort connector and MagSafe adapters. The rumor site also also believes the $899 product is likely a 24" Cinema Display.

This throws into doubt the remainder of the analysis for the part numbers (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/10/13/macbook-and-macbook-pro-part-numbers-and-prices-899-macbook/) that were leaked.

Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/10/14/apples-new-899-product-is-an-led-display-and-not-a-macbook/)

[msizzle64]

finally a new cinema display!

[kjs862]

Just one display?

[mathcolo]

Seriously? Ugh...

Who cares a darn about the displays? We WANT NOTEBOOKS!

AppleInsider says it's a display AND a MacBook. So arn, why say display and NOT a MacBook?

[NT1440]

Just one display?

If its just one, id say it really does help substantiate the docking screen everyones been murmuring about.

[Grimace]

It's a display dock TV with ethernet -- to put your new dockable MBP into! :p

[MacOSXuser]

I just bought a LG display!! OMG

[jade]

So what about the notebooks?

[amac4me]

The $899 question ... will it have an integrated iSight camera?

[alexlovesmacs]

So the low end MB is $1299?:confused::rolleyes:

[Chris Rogers]

kind of a let down :(

[iThinkApple]

Dang Arn 4 Post in less then 90 Minutes. Your a fast Typer. is arn the Owner of MacRumors Does anyone know? Also does arn work for apple or something lol. Good job Arn Keep it up though! :apple: :apple: :apple: :apple: :apple:

[mathcolo]

So the low end MB is $1299?:confused::rolleyes:

Something is definitely not right.:rolleyes:

Better sell AAPL now!;) It's going to head for the ground tomorrow.

[Beric]

Pretty expensive display. I'll take a 24" display from HP for $499 (http://www.shopping.hp.com/product/display/display/1/storefronts/GM712AA%2523ABA), by someone who's got a proven record in the display business.

[ziggyonice]

I hope those price points are wrong, or missing some numbers then.

Apple needs a cheaper MacBook to (really) compete nowadays...

[brendanspah764]

So the low end MB is $1299?:confused::rolleyes:

That is exactly what I thought. This cannot be true. Apple would not rise their price $200 more. How does that appeal to comsumers? If it was 1200, i am getting a Dell. I am sorry. :(

[firstapple]

Dang Arn 4 Post in less then 90 Minutes. Your a fast Typer. is arn the Owner of MacRumors Does anyone know? Also does arn work for apple or something lol. Good job Arn Keep it up though! :apple: :apple: :apple: :apple: :apple:

Arn owns a lot... This site, Toucharcade, and appshopper.

All great sites!

[twoodcc]

wow. i was really hoping for a tablet. let's hope that's what it is and not a display. $899 for a 24"? i have an acer that i bought for $299

[donga]

so apparently the spotlight is on notebooks


and a cinema display?

[alexlovesmacs]

I believe that the prices are all wrong the new macbook low end cant be $1299. We just have to wait tommorow 10am PST:eek:

[minik]

I just sold my DELL UltraSharp 2407WFP last week. Bring it on.

Display Port? Well...

[besiktas jk]

One says there won't be a Macbook announcement tomorrow. One says there'll be three Macbooks ($899 & $1299 & $1599). Another says only two Macbooks ($1299 & $1599)...

I am all confused. I should better sleep now and wake up just after the event tomorrow.

[Apple Ink]

Expected..... no way Apple's on the netbook bandwagon and no way there's a $400 gap between tow MB/Ps!

For reference and thread mark (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=6404437&postcount=59)

[mustangsally82]

It makes as much sense as any of the other rumors. :p A portable notebook with the ability to connect to a bigger display when you're at home or in the office. I'd buy it. :apple:

[mdriftmeyer]

Make it an OLED display, at that price point using an H-IPS panel standard and you'll dominate the market.

Okay, now back to reality.

[Beric]

wow. i was really hoping for a tablet. let's hope that's what it is and not a display. $899 for a 24"? i have an acer that i bought for $299

QFT. Here's a Dell for $329 (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Monitors/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-7345).

[duke10]

goodbye 113 a share

[brendanspah764]

One says there won't be a Macbook announcement tomorrow. One says there'll be three Macbooks ($899 & $1299 & $1599). Another says only two Macbooks ($1299 & $1599)...

I am all confused. I should better sleep now and wake up just after the event tomorrow.

This is good that your confused. With all these different pricing. We will all be surprised when Apple announces the notebooks. ;)

[Apple Ink]

I just sold my DELL UltraSharp 2407WFP last week. Bring it on.

Display Port? Well...

'Well.....' ?!?!?!@?#?%$?

o_O

I'd rather opt for the best in Industry than a stupid idiocran BS mini DVI!

[NewMacbookPlz]

DisplayPort? w00t!!!

If that's the case, that should seal the deal on what the video out on the MB/MBP's is going to be!:apple::apple::cool:

[touchipoder]

MAybe its the dock for the macbooks thats shaped like an iMac

[wingingflipper]

$900 for a 24" screen? Wth is apple smoking. Seriously. They do the same thing with their other cinema displays. A 20" is like 400 bucks...I could goto dell, and get a 22" for half the price. I'm getting more and more dissapointed. Hopefully, apple will surprise us tomorrow.

[wbe858]

I'd be very upset if this turns out to be true. :(

I think a lot of people who are counting on a cheaper laptop for school will be.

[Apple Ink]

MAybe its the dock for the macbooks thats shaped like an iMac

+infinite.....

I'd rather this than some stupid claims of a touch/netbook.......

[Nikhil72]

In my dream world, I would love for it to be a large monitor with some sort of slot into which you could slide a MacBook (or Pro)...a pseudo-desktop without the hassle of wires, etc.

yup, I think I would pay $899 for that.

[discostu668]

i don't believe that for a second.

with all the talk of dropping prices on MBs, why would the low end one start at 1299? and why would they get rid of a third option for the MB?

i call BS on this one.

[bluecluee]

New displays are welcomed, it's been forever since the last refresh.

[LoveCrusader]

$1000 after tax for a 24" display ???? hahaha is this company serious ? Plus they raise the price of their Macbook and now it doesn't even have firewire ? lol lol I'll wait until tomorrow, but if all this is true count me in for a Dell also. I thought Apple was some great company. I just started looking to buy one of their products, but they're overpriced and the people that run this company are idiots.

[Beric]

New displays are welcomed, it's been forever since the last refresh.

For prices that are actually reasonable, and not 2-3x the price of proven quality displays from Dell.

[sambapati87]

I'm telling you guys, it's a Dock.

[plumbingandtech]

but if all this is true count me in for a Dell also. I thought Apple was some great company. I just started looking to buy one of their products, but they're overpriced and the people that run this company are idiots.

Enjoy that Dell.

Yah. Idiots invented the iphone.
:rolleyes:

[grue]

$900 for a 24" screen? Wth is apple smoking. Seriously. They do the same thing with their other cinema displays. A 20" is like 400 bucks...I could goto dell, and get a 22" for half the price. I'm getting more and more dissapointed. Hopefully, apple will surprise us tomorrow.

Yes, and the Dell display will be using a TN or VPVA panel. For those of us who require more colour accuracy than those give, the Cinema Displays aren't THAT expensive compared to the competition.

[MrM]

I'm telling you guys, it's a Dock.

It seems very logical at this point, with the amount of fact that we have, that its a dock. This is all assuming that the prices that were leaked from this "reliable source" are true.

The DuoDock returns?

[buyusfear]

I love how the majority of these "leeks" are perfectly/strategically out of focus pictures.

brilliant!

[swagi]

With all the flurry right now, I just grab my credit card and put it on a safe place.

If that really is a 'display', I personally think this will be the docking station. Maybe it is the proposed Patent setup. I always wondered, how else they would let different sized pads fit into the display.

So 899 MacBook Touch with bigger display/docking station - here I come.

*faint*

[sighlent]

No way. All MacBook models part numbers are MBXXXXLL/A and the cinema displays are MXXXXLL/A. Unless $899 dockable screen gets thrown into the MacBook product family. Also there wouldn't be just one screen, there would have to be a 30" available as well... the price points and suggested better/bests are clear to be MacBooks, MacBook Pros and MacBook Airs with the MB and MBA receiving price cuts, MBPs staying at the same price points.

[andyr2120]

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Based on information we've gathered it seems the $899 product that has appeared on Apple's product lists (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/10/13/macbook-and-macbook-pro-part-numbers-and-prices-899-macbook/) is likely an LED Apple Cinema Display and not a low-end MacBook.



A 24" display -- even including some sort of docking mechanism -- would have to include additional features if it is going to sell for $899. If it doesn't have some kind of killer functionality that is yet unknown, it would be the kind of low-volume product that is not even worth mentioning at a press event.

So let's consider some options. What else could it include to make it worth $899?

Minimal computing functionality, like a netbook for your living room (but with OS X)?

Built-in Apple TV?

Built-in HD tuner and maybe related home AV stuff, like DVD upscaling or Blu Ray playback, all at 1080P?

A home media system with touch-screen, etc, expanding on previous Apple TV/Front Row setups?

[1000masks]

We, all need to get some sleep and find out tomorrow.

[zer0tails]

well, a new 24" display will be OK I guess. No more 30 inchers? :( I really hope the MBA gets updated. that's what i'm buying if the MBPs indeed look like the pictures just leaked.

I think they overdid the black.

[sighlent]

I love how the majority of these "leeks" are perfectly/strategically out of focus pictures.

brilliant!

Kid who works at Apple Retail store gets in a quick one only to disclose there are no MacBooks or 17" MacBook Pros (probably hasn't seen them or they haven't arrived to the store yet)... seems likely. A faux leak is also equally as likely.

[alexlovesmacs]

Everyone should drink some tea calm down, then go to sleep, and wait for the event tommorow:D

[mrmayor92]

well **** my life then

[techpr]

So the low end MB is $1299?:confused::rolleyes:

With NO FireWire :mad::mad::mad:

[duke10]

my school has been selling for a week or so MacBooks for 900 dollars with a 3 year superwarranty (throw it on the ground and they will fix/replace)
If this is true I might just have to get the older model

[andyr2120]

$900 for a 24" screen? Wth is apple smoking. Seriously. They do the same thing with their other cinema displays. A 20" is like 400 bucks...I could goto dell, and get a 22" for half the price. I'm getting more and more dissapointed. Hopefully, apple will surprise us tomorrow.

I'm starting to think that we may be better off if Apple skips the surprises and just gives us what we've been asking for all this time....

[wbe858]

We, all need to get some sleep and find out tomorrow.

And where is the fun in that? :p

[Freewayjim]

I believe that the prices are all wrong the new macbook low end cant be $1299. We just have to wait tommorow 10am PST:eek:

I hope you are right, I think Apple really needs to offer a well equipped $800-900 MacBook.

Plus, based on what we know so far I don't see where the new MBP's can justify the $1999/$2499/$2799 prices. We lose ports and it's safe to say we'll get only a modest bump in processor, hard drive & the new Nvidia chips. And for all of that goodness Apple keeps the same price points? That's a pretty arrogant move in this economy IMO.

I like to drink the Apple "Kool-Aid" as much as anyone but so far this is on the bitter side.

[avigalante]

With NO FireWire :mad::mad::mad:

I was just going to point this out... something is not adding up.

[terrordemon]

give me a:

big enough screen to fit a 24x36 page
fully integrated for computer hookup
TOUCHSCREEN so that i can draw on the screen and have it show up in the file.

and i will write out a check for $899 right now. right nyow! every architects dream.... paperless? yes please

[jtaylr77]

QFT. Here's a Dell for $329 (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Monitors/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-7345).


It could be an HDTV with integrated Blue Ray/AppleTV and it also docks with a 13" Macbook pro. That might be worth 899

[Beric]

It could be an HDTV with integrated Blue Ray/AppleTV and it also docks with a 13" Macbook pro. That might be worth 899

You really think Apple will give you all that for $899? You'd be lucky to get a display for that price from Apple. :rolleyes:

[7racer]

would there be any benefit if a new notebook had two video cards?

[Music_Producer]

$1000 after tax for a 24" display ???? hahaha is this company serious ? Plus they raise the price of their Macbook and now it doesn't even have firewire ? lol lol I'll wait until tomorrow, but if all this is true count me in for a Dell also. I thought Apple was some great company. I just started looking to buy one of their products, but they're overpriced and the people that run this company are idiots.

Why do you keep posting the same stupid messages on every thread? You always add up the price, and then add sales tax. I am sure the people that run this company manage their time better than you do.. stupid troll. :rolleyes:

[JonMan]

Apple needs to release a low end -- sub $1,000 -- macbook tomorrow if they want to maintain growth in this economy.

An $899 display? Why does the already tapped consumer care about that? Apple needs to wake up and realize we're not in 2005 anymore.

[Beric]

would there be any benefit if a new notebook had two video cards?

Two dedicated graphics cards means some serious graphics power. :cool:

One dedicated and one integrated means dedicated when you need it and integrated when you don't thus saving power.

Both are good. I'd prefer the first.

[Stuart in Oz]

A new 24" Cinema Display would make sense - it's well overdue.

I've got a 24" iMac and my next purchase is probably going to be a Mac Pro with a Cinema Display - and I'd love it to have the look of the current iMac screen. It looks way better than the older styling on the current Cinema Display.

Also, it always seemed odd to me that the iMac has a 24" display and the cinema display is 23". What's with that?

Silly thing, but when I bought my iMac 24", and was tossing up with a Mac Pro instead, I couldn't really bear to buy such an expensive CD that was, nonetheless, smaller than the built-in on the iMac.

[LoganT]

Expected..... no way Apple's on the netbook bandwagon and no way there's a $400 gap between tow MB/Ps!

For reference and thread mark (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=6404437&postcount=59)

900 dollars isn't a netbook.

[ArtandStructure]

QFT. Here's a Dell for $329 (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Monitors/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-7345).

...not even close to the Apple display. The viewing angle of the Dell is horrendous at 160/170 to the Apple's 178. The Dell is worthless for serious color work with that viewing angle, plus the Apple display has a higher vertical resolution of 1200 pixels to the Dell's 1080...which is extremely valuable if you are a professional and need all you can get for palettes, menus or simply screen real estate.

Take care
Jesse Widener
Art and Structure (http://www.artandstructure.com)

[Super Intendo]

Two dedicated graphics cards means some serious graphics power. :cool:

One dedicated and one integrated means dedicated when you need it and integrated when you don't thus saving power.

Both are good. I'd prefer the first.

that, coupled with the fact that theres such a big deal over this whole Nvidia team up thing, coupled with the things we've seen in the games for iPhone department has me speculating something nobody else has-

iTunes Store for Games (mac games!)

maybe not tomorrow, maybe not at macworld, but sooner or later this is coming, they've got every other form of entertainment, why stop there?

[fly75]

1) If Apple is moving to Display Port on its notebooks, would make sense for them to sell something that connects.

2) Somewhere there's a disconnect between the originally rumored 12 price points for laptops, and the 8 price points holders mentioned in the Best Buy thread. Has anyone mentioned that in 3000 messages?

[singhjeet29]

As these news articles trickle in (the new macbook pro pic and the cinema display), I'm less and less excited about tommorow.

I'm interested in the Pro line of Macbooks, own one from February and I don't mind selling mine and buying the new ones. But I'm not sure what to think of this new design and I need a mouse button, I recently went from 2 to 1, which was a smooth and exciting transition (windows to mac), but from 1 to none, I'm not so sure about that.

What really is a deal breaker for me comes down to whether the new macbook pro's have the matte option (this will be the difference between a yes and no purchase) and the price point, the MBP's are really overpriced, if they dropped them to 1800 (in Canada) which would be 1700 in the US, with that 200 dollar student discount, I could easily dish out the cash for the Pro. But if the price point remains the same, I'm not too certain.

That new pic of the MBP and those price points really have me iffy about tomorrow. I hope those prices are wrong and that the mouse button is just invisible.

And I hope the recent change in the Canadian Dollar, thanks to the US market doensn't lead to a price increase!!

[mtfield]

Hasn't the apple 23" cinema display always been $899??? so why is it so weird that a new 24" would be the same price?

[Beric]

that, coupled with the fact that theres such a big deal over this whole Nvidia team up thing, coupled with the things we've seen in the games for iPhone department has me speculating something nobody else has-

iTunes Store for Games (mac games!)

maybe not tomorrow, maybe not at macworld, but sooner or later this is coming, they've got every other form of entertainment, why stop there?

I'm with you, but Apple really doesn't seem to care about OS X gaming.:(

[MacGeekDC]

Cant wait for tomorrow.

[strikeinsilence]

Who cares a darn about the displays?

Um, a lot of people?

[SirOmega]

I'm beginning to like it when we didn't have all these rumors and crap going around. You just went to bed and woke up the next day, waited until 10A (on the west coast) and just went from there.

Now its this theory and that theory, not that I dont enjoy it, but we're all over the map tonight.

Now we see an $899 24" display, possible docking system? Even for $899 thats still too damn high. Even a nice $499 24" display with speakers and a $200 docking station is still $200 short of the expected price. Another failed product IMO.

[Malooga]

too expensive...

[jeffy.dee-lux]

what would happen in terms of ventilation and wireless reception when a closed laptop is put inside a dock like this? Maybe part of the contraption would solve for these problems. This could explain for some of the cost, although doesn't really propose any interesting functionality for the customer. Just kind of essential elements for the thing to work at all. I just don't know how much of a market there would be for a laptop docking station.

[ajhaji]

I love how the majority of these "leeks" are perfectly/strategically out of focus pictures.

Did someone say "leeks"?
http://www.leekspin.com/

[miamialley]

$1299 for the low end? Seriously? We'll have to see...

[hempcamp]

Way too expensive. I'll stick with Dell displays, thanks.

--Chris

[mediumofmeaning]

this seems less and less likely/attractive; no firewire, starting at 1300? this would be an uncharacteristically regressive move. making you spend another 150 for a black macbook is one thing, making consumers spend 1300 for a macbook sans firewire is another; as a stockholder i would be very upset.

[aafuss1]

Where's the 20" and 30" models?

What about Mac minis and Mac Pro's-could there be some kind of connector that attaches to make the display woek on those.

Also Mac mini and iMac could be updated the next week, I guess.

[Super Intendo]

I'm with you, but Apple really doesn't seem to care about OS X gaming.:(

thats because they thought that the type of people who buy macs werent into gaming, but these are the same people who buy ipods and iphones and look whats happened there, the guy who made Trism made 250,000 dollars in a few months and trism wasnt even that great! theres a HUGE market for this, and think about it- macs are all about compatibility "made for ipod" and what not, or like when you buy different apple accessories how it shows a little picture of which ipods it will work for on the page, etc.

now think if they did this with games:
"Crysis"- MBP Early 2008, Late 2008
"Half Life 2"- MBP all 2007, Early 2008, Late 2008 and MacBook Late 2008
"Peggle"- MacBook late all 2007 and 2008, all MacBook Pro

(but wit little icons instead of words)

it makes sense.

[alexlovesmacs]

Did someone say "leeks"?
http://www.leekspin.com/

lol its a vegetablehttp://www.muranakafarm.com/img/inside_products_leek.jpg

[Super Intendo]

this seems less and less likely/attractive; no firewire, starting at 1300? this would be an uncharacteristically regressive move. making you spend another 150 for a black macbook is one thing, making consumers spend 1300 for a macbook sans firewire is another; as a stockholder i would be very upset.

...regression... recession... depression, come on, everybodys doing it, apples gotta get in on it too!

[kobefan234]

wow that sucks 899 for only 1 display?:eek:

[philamac]

$899 for a display ?? Better be at least 30" or multitouch, or something.

$899 for a mac mini with bluray would make more sense than a 24" display.

Maybe the lesson were supposed to take away from this is, "stop reading too much into what AppleInsider 'confirms'."

[LoveCrusader]

Dell displays are better than Apple's for a 3rd the price. I don't know why anyone would be excited about this.

[WilliamG]

Pretty expensive display. I'll take a 24" display from HP for $499 (http://www.shopping.hp.com/product/display/display/1/storefronts/GM712AA%2523ABA), by someone who's got a proven record in the display business.

That's a rather ignorant post. HP? Proven record? Really? IPS panels made by HP that you've used?

[jrlcopy]

With all of these leaks I am soo confused as to what is going on tomorrow...
Which I like...

All I hope is that I am happy in 12 hours :).

The amount of *leaks* this time is astonishing. I really wouldn't be surprised if apple is behind everyone of them tomorrow and when steve jobs goes *boom* we are all surprised.

[Xian Zhu Xuande]

Hmm... if I had to guess, I would say the stock market will react harshly if Apple doesn't release a notebook below $1000 (at least $999). If I were to act solely on these rumors I'd be selling my Apple stock right now in hopes of taking advantage of the dip that would be sure to follow…

But something seems missing from this picture. I cannot imagine Apple increasing the entry-level price point of their notebook computers at this point (though I disagree that they have to reduce it to remain competitive). I'm going to guess that there must be something more to the announcement tomorrow and I'll ride it out, curious to see what happens. :)

And yeah... $900 for a 24" display? There's got to be something more to it...

[SeaFox]

so apparently the spotlight is on notebooks
and a cinema display?

You'll need a nice large display for when the 15" screen just isn't enough space.

As for $900... LOL!

I just bought a 24" widescreen monitor this summer for $500, and mine has a built in HDTV tuner and plenty of connections on the back for my other home entertainment gadgets. The only thing this monitor will have on my Samsung is the LED lighting. And being incompatible with 90% of graphics cards out there if it does in fact have Display Port.

[Beric]

That's a rather ignorant post. HP? Proven record? Really? IPS panels made by HP that you've used?

Trust me, I have a close relative who works at HP. HP monitors don't fail, from experience. ;)

[c00lerness]

$899 for a dock?

Wouldn't sliding A MacBook into the dock generate more heat?

I wish they could make a dock without the screen. I really don't need it. When I'm at home, I prefer to use an external keyboard and mouse with my macbook. Since the MacBook has only 2 USB ports, those are taken, so I have a USB hub for those plus my printer and iPod dock.

One of my cousin has an HP laptop with the HP quickdock. I like the fact that it's one connector that has 6 USB ports, VGA / s-video / component video for an external display, ethernet port, audio ports for speakers, a power jack to charge the notebook and a power button incase you have an external display and want to turn on the notebook with the lid close.

If Apple makes a simple dock like this, I would buy it, but a $899 dock is too much.

Maybe one day, Apple will get rid of the iMac and in order to get the desktop experience, you would need to buy a MacBook and one of these display docks.

[jrlcopy]

That's a rather ignorant post. HP? Proven record? Really? IPS panels made by HP that you've used?
These are amazing
http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/hp-gets-color-critical-with-30-inch-dreamcolor-lp2480xz-lcd/

HP's have been much better that dells and apple's, The only benefit ever to using an apple display is, that it matches the mac pro, and that it has firewire inputs.

WHY oh WHY can't dell and HP act as a firewire hub in addition to the usb and memory card readers!

[epictempo]

No way is apple raising the price of the macbook to 1299 when economics is free falling. Broke consumers + Higher prices = fail. Apple deserves a benefit of a doubt, stop overreacting everyone.

[discostu668]

It could be an HDTV with integrated Blue Ray/AppleTV and it also docks with a 13" Macbook pro. That might be worth 899

1. NO BLU-RAY

2. THERE IS NO 13" MBP

3. AND DON'T GET ME STARTED ON THIS DOCK BS...

[HLdan]

Can't we let these rumors go now, for goodness sake. This time tomorrow we will know everything. In fact the show begins in 12 hours and we are still creating more hype? See it's not Apple's fault it's the Apple fanboys who create all these rumors and hype, then Apple comes out and showcases their new product line which appears to be lackluster because people were expecting so much more based on the hype that the fanboys created. Enough already.

[Srai-W]

I'd be very upset if this turns out to be true. :(

I think a lot of people who are counting on a cheaper laptop for school will be.

I second you on this... I mean really?

[MacTraveller]

kind of a let down :(

Rumor with high expectations.

Receive news with big disappointments.

Here, have a cry-towel.

[grue]

Dell displays are better than Apple's for a 3rd the price. I don't know why anyone would be excited about this.

Define "better", please.

If you mean a better pixel response time, or higher dynamic contrast ratio… you're right.

But if you mean in terms of actual colour accuracy and usefulness in a creative professional setting… well, take a guess.

The Apple 30" is overpriced compared to the Dell, sure, as they both use IPS panels and the Apple has only one video input.

But the Apple 23" is a significantly better type of panel compared to the Dell 24", which also happens to suffer from some pretty nasty output lag.

[pigeo000]

$899 for a display ?? Better be at least 30" or multitouch, or something.

$899 for a mac mini with bluray would make more sense than a 24" display.

Maybe the lesson were supposed to take away from this is, "stop reading too much into what AppleInsider 'confirms'."

it's the new apple tv models

[epictempo]

1. NO BLU-RAY

2. THERE IS NO 13" MBP

3. AND DON'T GET ME STARTED ON THIS DOCK BS...

Thank YOU!!

A decent blu ray player still cost around $300, what the he!! are people thinking when they expect an $899 laptop to include a $300 dollar device.:confused:

[RKnight]

As everyone else. I hope the prices before are wrong. My wife was really hoping for a cheaper MacBook (she as an aging iBook, and I'm the one with a MBP :o ) so we were really hoping for that, but 899 makes sense for a dockable display. It really goes with the dockable rumor thats floating around.

Now the entire new line will all have their ports on the left side. Just slip it in and boom a 24" iMac you can take on the road. It makes sense, but man, they better offer a cheaper MacBook than 1299, ouch....

[sighlent]

I could easily see Apple dissolving the MB/MBP naming distinction and just have them all be MacBooks.

Also as for 12 price points, perhaps other than the 8 laptop price points there will be 4 more for new Cinema Displays all with docking capacity. 20, 24, 27, 30 inch displays.

[chrono1081]

That is exactly what I thought. This cannot be true. Apple would not rise their price $200 more. How does that appeal to comsumers? If it was 1200, i am getting a Dell. I am sorry. :(

I really hope these prices are wrong too! I planned on getting my sister a macbook for Christmas but geeze. $1200.

[Eidorian]

$1,299 starting MacBook?

EPIC FAIL APPLE

I'll be holding on to my current MacBook for years then.

[Applemac85]

Maybe I'm way off, but what about a dock with a 24" Cinema Display and a bluray player? Strictly a media station? It probably would come with a mouse and a keyboard at that price as well.

[corinhorn]

I know I am not the first person to suggest this, but with all the rumors coming out making heads spin, my gut is telling me that Steve Jobs has created a group at Apple to create these fake rumors and photos. This go around of rumors seems so chaotic.

[Beric]

$1,299 starting MacBook?

EPIC FAIL APPLE

I'll be holding on to my current MacBook for years then.

As will I. :mad:

[ivladster]

Im feeling stress and tears tomorrow when people realize that all rumors were too exaggerated.

[SeaFox]

With NO FireWire :mad::mad::mad:
You have to read between the lines. The statement was "No Firewire 400", not "No Firewire." They are going to do a single FW800 port and include an adapter obviously.

It could be an HDTV with integrated Blue Ray/AppleTV and it also docks with a 13" Macbook pro. That might be worth 899
Apple wouldn't give you an HDTV tuner, you wouldn't have a reason to buy your currently airing TV shows off the iTMS then. ;)

...not even close to the Apple display. The viewing angle of the Dell is horrendous at 160/170 to the Apple's 178. The Dell is worthless for serious color work with that viewing angle, plus the Apple display has a higher vertical resolution of 1200 pixels to the Dell's 1080...which is extremely valuable if you are a professional and need all you can get for palettes, menus or simply screen real estate.

Take care
Jesse Widener
Art and Structure (http://www.artandstructure.com)

If the new Apple 24" monitor is in fact 1200px tall (which at this point we don't even know if it is a monitor :rolleyes:) then the two displays are different aspect ratios. So you may see more pixels for pallets to fit on, but to the average home user the 24" Dell will appear larger since watching movies on it will yield a larger picture (since the Dell wont have the top/bottom letter boxing on 16:9 content and will be the same diagonal resolution).

[bobertoq]

I have a few things to say.

An $899 display is extremely expensive, but if the rumors are true, this is an LED display. $899 for a high-res LED display. That's cheap.

There is still a possibility of the $800 MacBook.

And that list of prices isn't necessarily true.

And, I am excited for tomorrow. :D

Edit:
Keep in mind the conference is supposed to be focused on notebooks. Note displays.

[arn]

$1,299 starting MacBook?

EPIC FAIL APPLE

I'll be holding on to my current MacBook for years then.

It should be noted that the $1299 presumed MacBook price point is labeled "Better" so is not the entry level MacBook. We still don't know what the entry level MacBook price will be.

[Eidorian]

It should be noted that the $1299 presumed MacBook price point is labeled "Better" so is not the entry level MacBook. We still don't know what the entry level MacBook price will be.I'll just wait until tomorrow but my current MacBook looks like it for the long haul.

I'm just not able to willing to spend much more then $1,000 anymore on my Macs. We'll see what Good is then.

[andyjam]

Ok... Everyone slow down - How do we know that these are US dollars? They could be pounds or australian dollars or anything. Personally I hope they are Aussie dollars. This would bean a $200 price cut for the MacBook in Australia... And would make the laptops about $900 US dollars. And this new display would be about $600.

I would easily pay $899 (Australian) for a 24" display of Apple quality and a great new slide in dock. Maybe this dock will also feature Firewire for the MB and include TV tuners or heaps of extra USB ports etc...

There would be fans to keep the laptop cool extra graphics etc...

Keep an open mind... And relax for another 11 hours, 38 minutes and 12 seconds!!

[InkMaster]

$900 for a 24" screen? Wth is apple smoking.

lol? You just figured this out now? hahaha, my first hint was the fact that you could get a notebook w/ the specs of a MacBook for 2x cheaper from Dell, hp or most any other manufacturer :p

[MattInOz]

I'm pretty sure after this we can clearly say.

We know nothing for sure.
I think Apple are toying with you guys.

Either that or they planted so many rumors to different groups of staff to see where the links are, in which case the answer is everywhere.

[ubercool]

I know I am not the first person to suggest this, but with all the rumors coming out making heads spin, my gut is telling me that Steve Jobs has created a group at Apple to create these fake rumors and photos. This go around of rumors seems so chaotic.

I was just thinking the same thing. Some alert person is going to dig up the address of that building the leaked picture tracks too, and discover it was an Apple campus building.

Tomorrow I'll start a thread to rate the accuracy of our leaks, then we can tally the score and see what was fake and what was real and who gave the most real scoops. :rolleyes:

[Beric]

Ok... Everyone slow down - How do we know that these are US dollars? They could be pounds or australian dollars or anything. Personally I hope they are Aussie dollars. This would bean a $200 price cut for the MacBook in Australia... And would make the laptops about $900 US dollars. And this new display would be about $600.

I would easily pay $899 (Australian) for a 24" display of Apple quality and a great new slide in dock. Maybe this dock will also feature Firewire for the MB and include TV tuners or heaps of extra USB ports etc...

There would be fans to keep the laptop cool extra graphics etc...

Keep an open mind... And relax for another 11 hours, 38 minutes and 12 seconds!!

Sorry, but Apple is a US company. These are US dollars. ;)

[andyjam]

Sorry, but Apple is a US company. These are US dollars. ;)

Not if this price list has come from somewhere else around the world... Apple is a GLOBAL company BASED in the US

[discostu668]

I could easily see Apple dissolving the MB/MBP naming distinction and just have them all be MacBooks.

it's already been determined that that will NOT happen now or ever.

[Martius]

I could easily see Apple dissolving the MB/MBP naming distinction and just have them all be MacBooks.

Also as for 12 price points, perhaps other than the 8 laptop price points there will be 4 more for new Cinema Displays all with docking capacity. 20, 24, 27, 30 inch displays.

Lol, so you say that the $800 price point is for new 20" Cinema display?

Please, don't go crazy guys. Engadget wrote that someone said there will be no MBP 17" or MB.
I think there will be a $800 - $900 Macbook - NEW Macbook.
I think there will be a new Macbook Pro 17"
I think there will be an update of Macbook Air

Did you read a text on the invitation? "The spotlight turns to Notebooks." That means there will be more new stuff than only a new MBP 15"

:apple:

[Chundles]

Not if this price list has come from somewhere else around the world... Apple is a GLOBAL company BASED in the US

Those are the US prices.

[JadedRaverLA]

Thank YOU!!

A decent blu ray player still cost around $300, what the he!! are people thinking when they expect an $899 laptop to include a $300 dollar device.:confused:

I don't think anyone is expecting Blu-ray in an $899 MacBook... but I have no idea why you're quoting retail pricing for standalone Blu-ray players as if that was the same as OEM pricing on BD drives for notebooks.

Notebook BD drives (OEM pricing) have fallen to around $135-150 for a combo drive and $210-240 for a BD-R/RE burner (in quantity) -- which is why PC OEMs CAN put BD drives in $700 notebooks.

[techpr]

You have to read between the lines. The statement was "No Firewire 400", not "No Firewire." They are going to do a single FW800 port and include an adapter obviously.



The current rumor states that the MB will not have Firewire at all. I hope apple doesn't remove it.

[Peace]

Anybody consider this isn't a $899 cinema display ? It is labeled MB you know.

Macbook Mini ?.
What we've "seen" so far are generic molds and mock-ups. Don't be fooled.

I just get this feeling that the $899 is a "one more thing" and it's not you're typical notebook.

It could also be the elusive "iMac-like dock"

[corinhorn]

I was just thinking the same thing. Some alert person is going to dig up the address of that building the leaked picture tracks too, and discover it was an Apple campus building.
Better yet, it will be revealed that Steve Jobs took the photos with his iPhone.

[Beric]

Did you read a text on the invitation? "The spotlight turns to Notebooks." That means there will be more new stuff than only a new MBP 15"

:apple:

Maybe it just means there will be more than one MBP 15" produced. ;)

[sn00pie]

If we combine a few rumors we get this:

$899 Apple Cinema Display
- iSight built-in
- Built in AppleTV type HDD device
- possibly 24" screen

Would make sense, but I'd imagine it would be all about notebooks, and then at the end Steve will say... wait there's one more thing, and boom we have new ACD's. :p

Anybody consider this isn't a $899 cinema display ? It is labeled MB you know.

Macbook Mini ?.
What we've "seen" so far are generic molds and mock-ups. Don't be fooled.

I just get this feeling that the $899 is a "one more thing" and it's not you're typical notebook.

The AirPort Express goes under the name of MBxxx in our system (Best Buy)... it could be a tablet. This is a notebook event afterall, and a tablet is a notebook in way.

[ntrigue]

There are so many emotional b*tches on this site come rumor time. Between 10AM and 11AM all will be revealed. Most will love it and some will dislike it.

And a surprising number of those that dislike it will still buy the very Apple products they scoffed at.

[PsykX]

I read funny comments here sometimes...

900... yeah it's expensive, but if it's about a display, it's not a normal display, thus you couldn't get something better from Dell or I-have-no-idea-who-else, because they don't have these. ;)

As someone (smart) pointed out on the first page, it would be about a laptop docking station for Apple laptops. So you just plug in your laptop in the dock and the illusion is perfect : it looks like an iMac. Then when you want it back for work, just remove it and bring it with you... quite smart idea, but out of price IMO.

This would explain why optical drives on both MB and MB are located on the side now, not on the front anymore.

[arn]

A 24" display -- even including some sort of docking mechanism -- would have to include additional features if it is going to sell for $899. If it doesn't have some kind of killer functionality that is yet unknown, it would be the kind of low-volume product that is not even worth mentioning at a press event.

LED?

arn

[andyjam]

OK... You have convinced me these are US dollars... You have ruined my day... Let's just hope that Apple can make my day tomorrow...

[avigalante]

There are so many emotional b*tches on this site come rumor time. Between 10AM and 11AM all will be revealed. Most will love it and some will dislike it.

And a surprising number of those that dislike it will still buy the very Apple products they scoffed at.

QFT; post of the night.

[alexlovesmacs]

Everyone just be thankful the event is tommorow.:rolleyes:

[Beric]

LED?

arn

What's the value of LED's? All they do is consume less energy. And that isn't as important in a stationary monitor.

[andyjam]

LED?

arn

perhaps not for the cheaper price point. I think that LEDs tend to cost a bit more ($1000+)... More likely to be LCD

[Peace]

If we combine a few rumors we get this:

$899 Apple Cinema Display
- iSight built-in
- Built in AppleTV type HDD device
- possibly 24" screen

Would make sense, but I'd imagine it would be all about notebooks, and then at the end Steve will say... wait there's one more thing, and boom we have new ACD's. :p



The AirPort Express goes under the name of MBxxx in our system (Best Buy)... it could be a tablet. This is a notebook event afterall, and a tablet is a notebook in way.

Yes but the Cinema displays are different. For example the 23"
Apple Cinema HD Display (23" flat panel)
Part Number: M9178LL/A

New Item :

K29, MB382LL/A $899.00

[PsykX]

LED?

arn

I believe yeah, but is this a killer function, really?

Maybe if it contained a hard disk, special ports, or if it were hugely-sized... but then again, do we really want all that? :S

[discostu668]

If we combine a few rumors we get this:

$899 Apple Cinema Display
- iSight built-in
- Built in AppleTV type HDD device
- possibly 24" screen

Would make sense, but I'd imagine it would be all about notebooks, and then at the end Steve will say... wait there's one more thing, and boom we have new ACD's. :p



The AirPort Express goes under the name of MBxxx in our system (Best Buy)... it could be a tablet. This is a notebook event afterall, and a tablet is a notebook in way.

again.... *no* tablets, for chrissakes..... not going to happen!

[arn]

What's the value of LED's? All they do is consume less energy. And that isn't as important in a stationary monitor.

Just saying that LED's cost more, so that's why they would sell a 24" monitor for $899 when LCD ones are going for much less.

perhaps not for the cheaper price point. I think that LEDs tend to cost a bit more ($1000+)... More likely to be LCD

I'm pretty sure it's LED. though a quick search shows a samsung at $2000+ http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=1382375

:)


Anybody consider this isn't a $899 cinema display ? It is labeled MB you know.

All Apple products start with "MB". They started with "MA" prior to that. It doesn't stand for MacBook.

arn

[angemon89]

STOP THIS MADNESS! There is so much speculation that I can't take it anymore! I'm just gonna go to sleep and wait for his Steveness to tell me the truth tomorrow morning. ;)

[Peace]

Just saying that LED's cost more, so that's why they would sell a 24" monitor for $899 when LCD ones are going for much less.



I'm pretty sure it's LED.



All Apple products start with "MB". They started with "MA" prior to that. It doesn't stand for MacBook.

arn

The 23" cinema display is M9178LL/A not MB or MA

[MattInOz]

Why would they put magport on a display that is designed to sit on desk?

It really makes no sense unless the magport now carries more than power.

[sushi]

We, all need to get some sleep and find out tomorrow.
Probably a good idea.

Imagine what it's like for us overseas in Asia if you will. W won't know until around 0200-0300 in the morning. Well those that stay up.

[MacAttack1982]

Maybe it just means there will be more than one MBP 15" produced. ;)

13 Macbook pro

[GenNovE]

Is funny how people are finding ways to justify apple's price on the rumored apple cinema display.

Where I work we run a 30"lcd made by dell and the apple 30" lcd.
To the guy above saying that the apple panel is of higher quality.
Please get your facts straight and don't go off by a spec sheet but by real world
experience. For you to say that the apple cinema display is better in terms of quality is just plain moronic and fanboish.

There is no reason behind apples high price on hardware that really gives you nothing= in return. I mean i purchased an HP 24" for 399.99 and when i compared it to my apple cinema display 23" guess what the HP LOOKED BETTER IN TERMS OF EVERYTHING.

AND WHAT THE HELL IS THIS DOCK B.S PEOPLE ARE RAVING ABOUT?
are you serious? I understand apples business. Take what is out there and applefi it. Claim it as your innovation and get all the credit for it. But people are willing to loose sleep over a dock station? lol- let me guess it will do everything current dock stations do except they will include a glowing apple and will come in monotone colors (black-white).

WOW!
I hope their not brewing part 2 of apple tvs commitment to failure in the overall big picture.

[arn]

The 23" cinema display is M9178LL/A not MB or MA

ah, but still MB isn't limited to macbooks :)

http://www.jr.com/apple/pe/APP_MB565LL_SL_A/

arn

[techpr]

STOP THIS MADNESS! There is so much speculation that I can't take it anymore! I'm just gonna go to sleep and wait for his Steveness to tell me the truth tomorrow morning. ;)

AMEN!! Everybody please go to sleep, tomorrow is the day :D

[ntrigue]

The great part is that there is ZERO chance that $1299 is the low-end notebook from Apple. Perhaps they have discovered a way to truly hide items from sources.

[Beric]

Just saying that LED's cost more, so that's why they would sell a 24" monitor for $899 when LCD ones are going for much less.


That's pretty cheap for an LED-backlit LCD monitor.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001265
:confused:

[Martius]

...or maybe it's a Macbook Touch ;)

[Rivix]

If we combine a few rumors we get this:

$899 Apple Cinema Display
- iSight built-in
- Built in AppleTV type HDD device
- possibly 24" screen


Now THAT is something I would be interested in.

[Peace]

ah, but still MB isn't limited to macbooks :)

http://www.jr.com/apple/pe/APP_MB565LL_SL_A/

arn

Wow! Are the cinema displays really that old ?

I see what you're sayin arn.

[CyberBob859]

Just saying that LED's cost more, so that's why they would sell a 24" monitor for $899 when LCD ones are going for much less.



I'm pretty sure it's LED.
arn

24" LED screen with dock for 15" MBP
Ports replicated in back (USB, Firewire, audio in/out, and ext. monitor)
wired keyboard and wired mouse

$899

...maybe :D

[corinhorn]

AMEN!! Everybody please go to sleep, tomorrow is the day :DBut it is so much fun to witness the chaos now

...or maybe it's a Macbook Touch ;)

I cannot think of anything that could be gained by adding a touch screen to a MacBook

[ntrigue]

In order for something to dock into the display it would have to be a smaller form factor and much lighter than the Macbook Pro. Think of how awkward it would be otherwise. I would personally be VERY concerned about scratches.

http://www.richmediainfo.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/0512_tablet_final_450.jpg

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/4/2008/01/thumb463x_imac-dock.jpg

[LoveCrusader]

I've never purchased an Apple product. I was only considering one because that's what my school used. Hopefully Apple wows me tomorrow or I'll just get the 15" Dell for $600 with firewire ports, more usb ports, ATI dedicated graphics, blu-ray, better specs than the Macbook, etc. Bill Gates is still gangster, so don't expect him to keep slipping up in the future. We'll see tomorrow. Macbook for $799 with blu-ray, 2 firewire ports, dedicated graphics, etc and I might be sold.

[Macminiintel]

so it might be like the 90s, again. If this is true its the Powerbook duo all over again :)

[jbrenn]

is it just me or are the rumors getting wilder and wilder as the timer counts down.

[corinhorn]

I've never purchased an Apple product. I was only considering one because that's what my school used. Hopefully Apple wows me tomorrow or I'll just get the 15" Dell for $600 with firewire ports, more usb ports, ATI dedicated graphics, blu-ray, better specs than the Macbook, etc. Bill Gates is still gangster, so don't expect him to keep slipping up in the future. We'll see tomorrow. Macbook for $799 with blu-ray, 2 firewire ports, dedicated graphics, etc and I might be sold.I would go ahead and order your Dell now.

[fuzzielitlpanda]

who else agrees that apple has done a great job at confusing the hell out of us this time?

[shadowmoses]

This is going to be awesome. I have been waiting to see what Apple do with the re-desgned cinema display for an age now!! It makes sense the standard MacBook would come in at $999

ShadoW

[corinhorn]

is it just me or are the rumors getting wilder and wilder as the timer counts down.It is not just you. Arn or someone else in the know would have to confirm this, but this go around seems much more chaotic than usual.

[thejadedmonkey]

who else agrees that apple has done a great job at confusing the hell out of us this time?

ME! I agree, Apple realized they couldn't stop every single leak, so instead they're making so many leaks we don't know what to believe.

[ts1973]

Just preparing for work here in Belgium, and I just knew I had to check Macrumors before I left.

Been a busy night Arn ;)

I'm with the docking station rumir, as that is what I'd like to see. However, an $800 LEd is exactly the sort of thing that would hurt Apple's bottom line...

We'll see ;)

[ntrigue]

I've never purchased an Apple product. I was only considering one because that's what my school used. Hopefully Apple wows me tomorrow or I'll just get the 15" Dell for $600 with firewire ports, more usb ports, ATI dedicated graphics, blu-ray, better specs than the Macbook, etc. Bill Gates is still gangster, so don't expect him to keep slipping up in the future. We'll see tomorrow. Macbook for $799 with blu-ray, 2 firewire ports, dedicated graphics, etc and I might be sold.

http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/1433/PreviewComp/SuperStock_1433R-134007.jpg

[LinMac]

My post will focus on the rumors around the Macbook Pro as that is what I am most interested in.

1) Macbook Pro with dual NVIDIA GPUs in an SLI configuration to drive a large display while docked.

2) Elegantly implemented multitouch trackpad with no physical buttons with new magnetic latch.

3) 24" LED based dock with a USB hub or firewire hub built into the display.

#2 has nothing to do with the dock rumor, but it is something I find interesting at the very least.

#1 and #3 could bit together quite nicely because all that graphics power isn't really necessary when dealing with such a small display.

Bring on tomorrow.. my credit card is almost empty and I need to run up the balance. :D

[fuzzielitlpanda]

ME! I agree, Apple realized they couldn't stop every single leak, so instead they're making so many leaks we don't know what to believe.

this actually gets me even more excited because now i don't know what to expect anymore. woohoo only a few hours to go!

[corinhorn]

ME! I agree, Apple realized they couldn't stop every single leak, so instead they're making so many leaks we don't know what to believe.

I really believe that this is the result of Apple shifting strategies to deal with leaks.

[NRose8989]

I've never purchased an Apple product. I was only considering one because that's what my school used. Hopefully Apple wows me tomorrow or I'll just get the 15" Dell for $600 with firewire ports, more usb ports, ATI dedicated graphics, blu-ray, better specs than the Macbook, etc. Bill Gates is still gangster, so don't expect him to keep slipping up in the future. We'll see tomorrow. Macbook for $799 with blu-ray, 2 firewire ports, dedicated graphics, etc and I might be sold.

Well have fun with your Dell, It's fine id actually prefer less people using Macs so i look cooler in public.

[viccles]

As long as there are updated macbooks, I'm happy. I could fork out for a MBP, but it would be extreme overkill for me. Heck, I need a laptop even more badly now my EEE PC charger decided to cark it yesterday :(

[strikeinsilence]

These are amazing
http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/hp-gets-color-critical-with-30-inch-dreamcolor-lp2480xz-lcd/

HP's have been much better that dells and apple's, The only benefit ever to using an apple display is, that it matches the mac pro, and that it has firewire inputs.

Except for the fact that the one you posted obviously competes with HIGH END displays and costs twice as much as a 30" ACD.

[ziggyonice]

I really believe that this is the result of Apple shifting strategies to deal with leaks.

That really would be interesting. Perhaps Apple is making these fakes, just to screw with everyone --
maybe J.R. is really someone like Jonathan Ive, I don't know, a middle name or something. Hmm....

[wingnut8]

I'm going to bed and not waking up until 12:30 EST so I have as little time to sit around and wait for the keynote.

[opeter]

Seriously? Ugh...

Who cares a darn about the displays? We WANT NOTEBOOKS!

AppleInsider says it's a display AND a MacBook. So arn, why say display and NOT a MacBook?

I care. Who cares about notebooks anyway? I WANT NEW APPLE DISPLAYS.

[MacTraveller]

Ok... Everyone slow down - How do we know that these are US dollars? They could be ....

They could be in Zimbabwean mega-dollars.

[corinhorn]

That really would be interesting. Perhaps Apple is making these fakes, just to screw with everyone --
maybe J.R. is really someone like Jonathan Ive, I don't know, a middle name or something. Hmm....Knowing what I do about Steve Jobs, I wouldn't be surprised if he created a task force to create many of the "leaks" and rumors.

[MacTraveller]

$899 = Apple Pippin II Game Console

[fuzzielitlpanda]

i bet Steve Jobs is watching this forum tonight laughing it up

[wingnut8]

I care. Who cares about notebooks anyway? I WANT NEW APPLE DISPLAYS.

It is a notebook event after all.

[doczook]

Maye the $899 SKU is a display/something-really-cool-that-no-one's-thought-of-yet, and the others (including the $1299, $1799 laptops) are macbook pros? After all, they did mention something about 'new products at prices competitors can't match'. It would make sense to roll out a really cheap MBP with reduced features.

[Beric]

i bet Steve Jobs is watching this forum tonight laughing it up

I"ll bet he's practicing for his keynote. :D

[mtrctyjoe]

These prices are insane. Apple needs a drastic price cut on the lap top line up to stay relevant. They need to offer a sub $1000 15 inch laptop with with video card.

Let's hope there's more to the story.

[fuzzielitlpanda]

I"ll bet he's practicing for his keynote. :D

while picking out his clothes ahead of time :)

[Beric]

These prices are insane. Apple needs drastic price cut on the lap top line up to stay relevant. They need to offer a sub $1000 15 inch laptop with with video card.

Let's hope there's more to the story.

I toally and completely agree. It's what I've said time and time again.

EDIT: while picking out his clothes ahead of time :)

Yeah, I'm sure he's having a hard time picking those. :D

[aafuss1]

A Apple designed TV woulfd need to be 2 models:a model with a ATSC tuner US and a model with a DVB tuner for Europe and Australia.

[MacBook08]

Gettin' ready, eh? Could they be available in-store as soon as tomorrow?

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x281/KevzDog/Capture.jpg

[MacTraveller]

i bet Steve Jobs is watching this forum tonight laughing it up

I bet ur correct

[fuzzielitlpanda]

I bet ur correct

Steve?

[wingnut8]

Gettin' ready, eh? Could they be available in-store as soon as tomorrow?

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x281/KevzDog/Capture.jpg

Best Buy does that a lot.

[Beric]

Gettin' ready, eh? Could they be available in-store as soon as tomorrow?

Best Buy ≠ Apple.

[Casiotone]

These are amazing
http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/hp-gets-color-critical-with-30-inch-dreamcolor-lp2480xz-lcd/

HP's have been much better that dells and apple's, The only benefit ever to using an apple display is, that it matches the mac pro, and that it has firewire inputs.

WHY oh WHY can't dell and HP act as a firewire hub in addition to the usb and memory card readers!

While the HP display you linked to has millions (even billions) of colors, it's $3,499!

All the $300-$500 HP and Dell 24" displays that people are talking about are 6-bits per channel TN displays, which means only 262,144 colors on screen at the same time!. If you want a "true color" IPS display with at least 8-bit per channel for 16 millions+ of colors you have to pay twice the price.

I have a 20" HP LCD. Nice monitor, but you can see the color banding on gradients, the most glaring example is Leopard's gradient windows. Note that the banding effect is much less apparent when I plug the thing in analog VGA mode (as opposed to digital DVI), but then the display is much less stable and blurrier.

[Bubba Satori]

Thank YOU!!

A decent blu ray player still cost around $300, what the he!! are people thinking when they expect an $899 laptop to include a $300 dollar device.:confused:

My store has an HP Core 2 duo with 4GB of memory, 320G HD, Nvidia 9600GT w/512MB, Blu-Ray, and a 17" screen for $999. The HP 1175-NR

[yamaha106]

If $1,299 is the baseline MB you can count me out!

I'll be picking up an HP if so.

[Matthew Yohe]

Gruber confirms: http://daringfireball.net/2008/10/contains_spoilers

[Bubba Satori]

Gruber confirms: http://daringfireball.net/2008/10/contains_spoilers

I was afraid of that. Hopefully that pricing is wrong. :mad:

[yamaha106]

"In the new (aluminum) MacBook lineup, there are only two standard configurations:

$1299: 2.0 GHz, 2 GB memory, 160 GB disk
$1499: 2.4 GHz, 2 GB memory, 250 GB disk"

why would they slow the down the processors but drop the $1099 model. For some reason i doubt all of this information. We will know tomorrow, and put all of these rumors to rest.

[viccles]

I was afraid of that. Hopefully that pricing is wrong. :mad:

Me too. I also don't understand "they aren't announcing MBs but they will be shipping by the end of the week??"

[sushi]

I would go ahead and order your Dell now.
Agree.

who else agrees that apple has done a great job at confusing the hell out of us this time?
They sure have, intentional or not.

this actually gets me even more excited because now i don't know what to expect anymore. woohoo only a few hours to go!
Exciting.

I really believe that this is the result of Apple shifting strategies to deal with leaks.
Could be.

Still think we will see a nice laptop announcement tomorrow.

[.Chris]

Exciting.


hes right.

"it gets me more excited...."

not

"it gets me more excited"

[eugenio01]

its going to be like the Axiom modBook. just a tablet display - no keyboard, keyboard will be like the iPhone. case will just be a detatchable lid, magnetically held of course. bluetooth keyboard to be separate. external dock/ stand similar to current displays, with all ports. Will look like a 13" version of current imac that can be whisked off its dock for the road. apple logo at the bottom though will be replaced with a single home/ sleep button like iphone. size will be larger than macbook air, thinner than current macbook. actual macbooks will bump up to only 15inch version at current price point. new spellchecker as you type will provide list of words similar or sounds like to what you start typing. this will speed up slow typing with one hand or typing on screen to a usable speed. drawing with finger and multi touch, for accuracy (vector/ cad), and multi hand draw with one, control accuracy/ clicking with other. Macbook Air will continue as a high end 13inch with separate GPU, higher ram.

[Fast Shadow]

Going to aluminum on the Macbook means a price increase, not a decrease. This has been my opinion from the start, and I think we'll see that out tomorrow.

It would be a shame if they got rid of the matte option for the MBP.

And it figures that they may be releasing new displays tomorrow since I just bought two 23" ACDs just a few weeks ago. :mad: But on the other hand if the new displays are LED backlit they're probably wide gamut.

As far as Dell making cheaper monitors. Yeah, if you don't need accurate color reproduction then get that Dell. I have a 2408WFP at work and it's fair enough, but my ACDs kill it when it comes to accuracy. The reds on the Dell are absurd.

[Ping Guo]

I love how the majority of these "leeks" are perfectly/strategically out of focus pictures.

brilliant!

Here are some leeks in focus:

http://www.kidsdish.com/wp-content/uploads/leek.jpg

[Fredd-E]

Here are some leeks in focus:
LOL of the day!

[capple]

ignorant people. ips panel apple 23/34 inch monitors have been using is not in the same league with 400$ TN panels.

This is a problem apple seemed to have created though. Nowdays they cant figure out what level of customers they are aiming at. Cheap porducts? not really.. Pro products? not really either..

[ts1973]

ignorant people. ips panel apple 23/34 inch monitors have been using is not in the same league with 400$ TN panels.

This is a problem apple seemed to have created though. Nowdays they cant figure out what level of customers they are aiming at. Cheap porducts? not really.. Pro products? not really either..

Completely agree with this. Apple needs to clear the view on consumer lineups vs pro lineups. Every other major retailer does it. I get a feeling though that today's announcements will make the line even thinner.

[ascender]

I don't understand this. People are slagging off Apple, saying they've confused us, go and buy a Dell instead etc. But we've not actually had the official announcements yet, unless I've missed something?

At least wait until after the keynote before we start giving them a hard time!

[A.R.I.]

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=577915

to refresh displays, by only introducing a 24" LED CD with Docking Bay, would be pretty weird.

If the ACDs get refreshed, Apple will update all ACDs, maybe drop the 20", introduce redisigned a 24" LED, a redesigned 24" LED with Dockbay and a redesigned 30" LED. Not bigger......

Display-Port obviously

Pricing should stay the same as is is right now.....

[pcorajr]

ROFL a 24" for 899? If this is true then today is already a let down. People do not want 800 displays when they can the same for 400. pelple want new cheaper notebooks.

I woke up this morning to a slew of rummor, non of them make sense. Apple needs to bring down prices simple as that.

[aafuss1]

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=577915

to refresh displays, by only introducing a 24" LED CD with Docking Bay, would be pretty weird.

If the ACDs get refreshed, Apple will update all ACDs, maybe drop the 20", introduce redisigned a 24" LED, a redesigned 24" LED with Dockbay and a redesigned 30" LED. Not bigger......

Display-Port obviously

Pricing should stay the same as is is right now.....

How would the mini and Mac Pro connect to the display-a new adaptor, perhaps?

[Stately]

wow. i was really hoping for a tablet. let's hope that's what it is and not a display. $899 for a 24"? i have an acer that i bought for $299


I hope there's a tablet too but I refuse to get to wound up this time. :cool:

[Zaratustra]

Hey Guys, I have found image on russian forum, I suppose this is an Apple LCD TV with Apple TV inside. How do you think, is it true?
http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=139539&stc=1&d=1223984949

[polaris20]

Pretty expensive display. I'll take a 24" display from HP for $499 (http://www.shopping.hp.com/product/display/display/1/storefronts/GM712AA%2523ABA), by someone who's got a proven record in the display business.

So Apple doesn't have a proven record in the display business? Where have you been?

And FWIW I have 2 HP2465 monitors at work, and they aren't as nice as the Cinema Displays I've seen.

[A.R.I.]

How would the mini and Mac Pro connect to the display-a new adaptor, perhaps?

by using this...

http://sewelldirect.com/Accell-DisplayPort-to-DVI-Adapter-Cable.asp

and take a look at this.... ;-)

http://www.displayport.org/open/Interoperability.htm

some people might find the picture in the upper left corner interesting

[A.R.I.]

Hey Guys, I have found image on russian forum, I suppose this is an Apple LCD TV with Apple TV inside. How do you think, is it true?
http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=139539&stc=1&d=1223984949


seriously.....? fake! if the ACDs get updated, Apple will use the iMac, iPhone and the new MBP design for the bezel. No way things are looking like this.

and TV ist not "pro" series, it´s a consumer product like the macbook and the iPod.

[.Chris]

seriously.....? fake! if the ACDs get updated, Apple will use the iMac, iPhone and the new MBP design for the bezel. No way things are looking like this.

and TV ist not "pro" series, it´s a consumer product like the macbook and the iPod.

I think apple will merge the lines to ease confusion.

and what does  mean?

[aafuss1]

seriously.....? fake! if the ACDs get updated, Apple will use the iMac, iPhone and the new MBP design for the bezel. No way things are looking like this.

and TV ist not "pro" series, it´s a consumer product like the macbook and the iPod.

Fake and Apple wouldn't want a TV to be US only, they'd need a different version to cope with the countries that use DVB instead of ATSC.

[fat phil]

finally a new cinema display!

:D

[fat phil]

I think apple will merge the lines to ease confusion.

and what does  mean?

Well F8 is 248 in hex. 24.8"?



(not likely, but it's fun to throw petrol on the rumor crazies :))

[fat phil]

Hey Guys, I have found image on russian forum, I suppose this is an Apple LCD TV with Apple TV inside. How do you think, is it true?
http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=139539&stc=1&d=1223984949

If Goodmans or Alba made Apple displays rofl

I've seen no reports of Ives succumbing to dementia...

[fat phil]

ROFL a 24" for 899? If this is true then today is already a let down. People do not want 800 displays when they can the same for 400. pelple want new cheaper notebooks.

I woke up this morning to a slew of rummor, non of them make sense. Apple needs to bring down prices simple as that.

Easy to say for a consumer - the creative pros would argue differently, and pay above the odds for a high quality display. It's about time Apple remembered it's original core market.

[A.R.I.]

If Goodmans or Alba made Apple displays rofl

I've seen no reports of Ives succumbing to dementia...

:D that made me laugh......good one

[A.R.I.]

I think apple will merge the lines to ease confusion.

and what does  mean?

it means option with command and the plus button. makes this

[tmoney468]

While I do think that $899 for a 24" monitor is a lot, it will likely be an H-IPS screen, which is the best screen type made. Couple that with the fact that it is LED, and it seems like a decent deal. I've been looking at a 24" HP monitor that is an S-IPS screen, and it retails for about $650-$700, and is the standard CFFL backlight.

Does anyone know if apple has an education discount on monitors?

[Pressure]

While I do think that $899 for a 24" monitor is a lot, it will likely be an H-IPS screen, which is the best screen type made. Couple that with the fact that it is LED, and it seems like a decent deal. I've been looking at a 24" HP monitor that is an S-IPS screen, and it retails for about $650-$700, and is the standard CFFL backlight.

Does anyone know if apple has an education discount on monitors?

They do so far.

[dazzer21]

It would have to accommodate (using the current range), 13", 15" and 17" sized machines and should be able to hold legacy machines (ie, not only just the new laptops but at least the last 2 generations of configuration (even a Powerbook 17", 15', (12"?). If it were a slot-in job, all would need a common 'interface' to click into. Unless there's some way to connect to the video port of all these machine DIRECTLY, can't see it happening...

[Peace]

I'm sorry. I don't buy into this $899 Cinema Display thing. Why only come out with one size? Why not 3 or 2 ?

[Umbongo]

So much ignorance in this thread regarding displays. Thankfully there were some informative posts by people who "get it", though many seem to have gone ignored.

Apple aren't a player in the display market, they offer them to compliment their pro systems so Apple can provide the full solution. They aren't aiming for everyone who needs a display to consider an Apple Cinema Display. They currently provide quality panels that offer good colour accuracy for a competitive price when compared with other professional displays.

Samsung are the only company to my knowledge who are selling LED displays at the moment with 20" for ~$700, 24" for ~$1,800 and 30" for ~$3,000. I and others have said for a long time Apple wouldn't do anything until they could offer OLED displays at competitive prices, if these rumours are true then it appears to be that time.

[Umbongo]

I'm sorry. I don't buy into this $899 Cinema Display thing. Why only come out with one size? Why not 3 or 2 ?

Maybe they don't want to offer smaller sizes and 30" is still too expensive. Or maybe this is all just relative to the $800 product rumour so we are only discussing the 24" model.

[fleshman03]

In order for something to dock into the display it would have to be a smaller form factor and much lighter than the Macbook Pro. Think of how awkward it would be otherwise. I would personally be VERY concerned about scratches.

http://www.richmediainfo.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/0512_tablet_final_450.jpg

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/4/2008/01/thumb463x_imac-dock.jpg

Or the display could be thicker.

[tmoney468]

Maybe they don't want to offer smaller sizes and 30" is still too expensive. Or maybe this is all just relative to the $800 product rumour so we are only discussing the 24" model.

I agree that it's weird to only update one size of the monitor...it's also weird to me that they are going to leave the cheapest macbook with the current model, and have the more expensive models with the redesign. The only way I could think that this would make sense is if apple was going to release a cheap netbook, something that would be, let's say, $799 or cheaper (and would have the same white plastic design). It's just weird to have 2 different styles for the same Macbook line. Essentially what you're saying is, "If you want the new re-designs, you're going to have to spend more money to get it."

[gnasher729]

Now THAT is something I would be interested in.

What would be the point of a 24" monitor with built-in Apple TV? If it is connected to a Macintosh, you have something far more powerful than an Apple TV anyway. And if it is not connected to a Macintosh, who would want to pay $899 for a 24" TV? The display quality is wasted when it is used as a TV, a monitor at half the price works just as well _as a TV_.

[Hawkeye411]

Maybe the new display IS the Brick that people have been talking about. The brick allows you to dock your new Macbook Pro by inserting it into the side of the screen.

[sfh]

24" is nice but I think I'd get a wacom for just a little bit more

[coolchan]

wow. i was really hoping for a tablet. let's hope that's what it is and not a display. $899 for a 24"? i have an acer that i bought for $299

There is a difference between your cheap TN LCD display and a H-IPS LED display! If you don't know why, then do some research.

[milo]

If the $899 product turns out to be a display, and the cheapest new laptop is $1299, there will be a HUGE backlash from both consumers and the press.

An 899 laptop would be the perfect move in the current economy. RAISING the cost of the cheapest laptop would be business suicide. They better have a model under a grand, and it better not just be selling out what's left of the old model.

I was excited about today, but this completely turns that around.

[unwinded]

Do all apple part numbers begin with MB? Because MB sounds like Macbook to me....

[alexdudman]

Remember this leaked notebook case? http://images.macrumors.com/article/2008/10/13/035124-mbp.jpg

Well it does have an 'additional' port at the bottom covered by some tape which would fit in with the low end 'macbook' which is rumored to be a cinema display.

There is something fishy about all of these leeks however, I reckon Apple is in on it :eek:

[A.R.I.]

Remember this leaked notebook case? http://images.macrumors.com/article/2008/10/13/035124-mbp.jpg

Well it does have an 'additional' port at the bottom covered by some tape which would fit in with the low end 'macbook' which is rumored to be a cinema display.

There is something fishy about all of these leeks however, I reckon Apple is in on it :eek:

The unknown port is the battery status indicator....the battery will be IN the notebook, not part of its case. It´s no port.

[Fast Shadow]

These prices are insane. Apple needs a drastic price cut on the lap top line up to stay relevant. They need to offer a sub $1000 15 inch laptop with with video card.

Let's hope there's more to the story.

Apple's sales go nowhere but up. Why would they need to cut prices?

[SmokyD]

So much ignorance in this thread regarding displays. Thankfully there were some informative posts by people who "get it", though many seem to have gone ignored.

Apple aren't a player in the display market, they offer them to compliment their pro systems so Apple can provide the full solution. They aren't aiming for everyone who needs a display to consider an Apple Cinema Display. They currently provide quality panels that offer good colour accuracy for a competitive price when compared with other professional displays.

Samsung are the only company to my knowledge who are selling LED displays at the moment with 20" for ~$700, 24" for ~$1,800 and 30" for ~$3,000. I and others have said for a long time Apple wouldn't do anything until they could offer OLED displays at competitive prices, if these rumours are true then it appears to be that time.

Agreed. I'd happily pay $899 for a 24" LED monitor with a decent color gamut. That's actually a great price. We'll see if it happens. And if it docks my MBP on top of that then the price is a steal.

I can't believe some people actually whine that they can get an acer or HP or whatever for cheaper. By that rationale one thing can't be better than another. If ya can't tell the diff between junk and quality, go for the junk!

But some will pay more for the good stuff.

[Joe The Dragon]

If the $899 product turns out to be a display, and the cheapest new laptop is $1299, there will be a HUGE backlash from both consumers and the press.

An 899 laptop would be the perfect move in the current economy. RAISING the cost of the cheapest laptop would be business suicide. They better have a model under a grand, and it better not just be selling out what's left of the old model.

I was excited about today, but this completely turns that around.
Then the EFiX Dongle for laptops and Psystar likey will come out with a laptop and they will get a big sales as well.