Newest Folding member

[SafariX]

Saw the post on appleinsider, so I decided to throw my neglected 1.3ghz Athlon box into the mix for team #3446. When i get my dual (upgrade the g5's apple!), ill throw that in as well.

:)

[britboy]

Welcome to the MR fold ;)

Glad to have you on the team. Were you folding for a different team before?

[twiztidn8v]

Welcome to the team Safari! It's nice to know that we got someone from that thread on AppleInsider. I pretty sure we've gotten others, but to my knowledge you're the first to come and post!

I thought it funny the thread got hijacked from us... but folding in general has benefitted from that thread in general, and MaineRoad was the one who started it!

Again, welcome aboard, and be sure to post frequently and keep in touch!

[maineroad]

Safari,

Welcome to the team (or into the "fold"). Thanks for throwing your hardware in with us, we're making real progress. I myself have added 3.3 ghz to the team over the past week and am churning out about 800 points a week.

If you get a chance Safari, spread the word!

All the best.

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by twiztidn8v
Welcome to the team Safari! It's nice to know that we got someone from that thread on AppleInsider. I pretty sure we've gotten others, but to my knowledge you're the first to come and post!

I thought it funny the thread got hijacked from us... but folding in general has benefitted from that thread in general, and MaineRoad was the one who started it!

Again, welcome aboard, and be sure to post frequently and keep in touch!

Indeed, the thread has been hijacked.

I can't keep responding all bymyself guys, come on.

SafariX welcome to the team.

And congrads on the future Dual's.
:D

Take back the thread.

[wdlove]

Well I am now officially the newest member of MacRumors Folding.

Donator Rankings -- Name 'wdlove' -- Team 3446

I want to publicly than MrMacman, he is a very patient helpful young man. :)

[Selecter]

I second that - he did a excellent service pointing you to the way of true enlightenment. :D

[MrMacMan]

Thanks guys...

I feel the need since I aint a large (or Medium) sized folding member I feel the need to help people out...

It would have been easier if there was a faster way of communication... haha but it worked overall.

[wdlove]

Originally posted by MrMacman
Thanks guys...

I feel the need since I aint a large (or Medium) sized folding member I feel the need to help people out...

It would have been easier if there was a faster way of communication... haha but it worked overall.

I second that MrMacman. ;) It is very frustrating when something happens unexpected and you don't have someone to ask. We are very lucky to have someone that is so patient.

Maybe this is where iChat would be very helpful?

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by wdlove
I second that MrMacman. ;) It is very frustrating when something happens unexpected and you don't have someone to ask. We are very lucky to have someone that is so patient.

Maybe this is where iChat would be very helpful?

Indeed iChat/AIM would have been a faster method of communication.

But thats just me, iChat, Phone... all fast.

Forums you have to check back later for more...

[wdlove]

Originally posted by MrMacman
Indeed iChat/AIM would have been a faster method of communication.

But thats just me, iChat, Phone... all fast.

Forums you have to check back later for more...

For me personally the phone would be the preferable method! ;)

[Selecter]

THE LANDLINE!?!?!?!?!

:D wow.....thats for like.....normal poeple who dont have computers.....;)

[MrMacMan]

haha.


Come on, for people you want to be more personal with?

Phone is still the method of choice...


wdlove -- I am worried... you haven't shown up on the rankings yet... :confused:

If you can post whatever text appears after you type in work in the terminal...

[bousozoku]

Originally posted by Selecter
THE LANDLINE!?!?!?!?!

:D wow.....thats for like.....normal poeple who dont have computers.....;)

The phone doesn't have to be a landline anymore. :D

[wdlove]

Originally posted by MrMacman
haha.


Come on, for people you want to be more personal with?

Phone is still the method of choice...


wdlove -- I am worried... you haven't shown up on the rankings yet... :confused:

If you can post whatever text appears after you type in in the terminal...

I really appreciate your concern on my account MrMacman. Hopefully you are able to analyze this. I look forward to your answer.

Thank you for sticking up for the use the of phone. It is probably due to my age. I really wish there was someone on the forum that could assist me via the phone. ;)

Last login: Mon Feb 9 14:16:35 on console
Welcome to Darwin!
Winston\032Love\213s\032Computer:~ wdlove$ work
Start of data

Process 1
Protein: p1023_FSunf_337_99
Completed 1200000 out of 2500000 steps (48%)
Completed 1225000 out of 2500000 steps (49%)
Completed 1250000 out of 2500000 steps (50%)
Completed 1275000 out of 2500000 steps (51%)
Completed 1300000 out of 2500000 steps (52%)
-rw-r--r-- 1 wdlove wdlove 0 2 Feb 21:43 wudata_01.arc
-rw-r--r-- 1 wdlove wdlove 229944 10 Feb 14:45 wudata_01CP.arc

Process 2
Protein: p1024_FSnat_273_GS
Completed 1150000 out of 2500000 steps (46%)
Completed 1175000 out of 2500000 steps (47%)
Completed 1200000 out of 2500000 steps (48%)
Completed 1225000 out of 2500000 steps (49%)
Completed 1250000 out of 2500000 steps (50%)
-rw-r--r-- 1 wdlove wdlove 0 2 Feb 21:43 wudata_01.arc
-rw-r--r-- 1 wdlove wdlove 231024 10 Feb 14:46 wudata_01CP.arc

End of data

Winston\032Love\213s\032Computer:~ wdlove$

[bousozoku]

Wow!

You've been running nearly 8 days straight and you're only half way. Sounds as though you've been using your computer quite a lot or you're turning it off at night.

[MrMacMan]

Yeah...

You must be doing pretty heavy work while the computer is on and must shut it down right after you are done...


Well I guess its gonna take some more time then... :eek:

[wdlove]

Originally posted by MrMacman
Yeah...

You must be doing pretty heavy work while the computer is on and must shut it down right after you are done...


Well I guess its gonna take some more time then... :eek:

The only thing that I'm running is Safari, Filemaker Pro, Entourage, & Quicken.
I only run Quicken every other day, and Entourage in the evening. Safari & FileMaker are the only one's that are running constantly.

Because of wanting to be helpful to the team I let my G4 do a self sleep during the day. I do put it in sleep mode at night.

Am I doing something wrong MrMacmac?

[Dreadnought]

Don'tput it to sleep, that will stop folding! Just keep your mac on constantly. Also if you have a G5 put the processor speed on maximum, not automatic. I have my dual 1.8 turned on 24/7 and almost never using it... So it's folding like crazy! Anyway, good luck and keep on folding!

[wdlove]

MrMacman have you evaluated my printout from my Terminal. Is my G4 folding properly? When should I see something listed?

Do you reccomend leaving my G4 on constantly? Does that mean that you just allow self sleep. Will that cause undue wear and tear on an almost 3 1/2 year old machine. Are there advantages to this process, besides folding? I usually keep my machine covered when not in use related to dust. Can I still cover the G4?

[MrMacMan]

first off you spelled my name incorrect once!
:gates of hell burst open:
AHHHHH! :rolleyes: Am I doing something wrong MrMacmac?
: pfft : doesn't matter

Originally posted by wdlove
MrMacman have you evaluated my printout from my Terminal. Is my G4 folding properly? When should I see something listed?

Yes, your G4 is Folding Properly, thought I must say that putting the machine to sleep during the day and at night will only allow you to fold verryy slowwly since folding does not work when Sleep Mode is active (because the processor doesn't run basically).


Do you reccomend leaving my G4 on constantly?
It will not harm your machine, its fine. I've left my machine on basically 24/7 no problems.

Does that mean that you just allow self sleep.
Self Sleep? Eh? As I say before any 'type of sleeping does not allow any program to run, Including FOLDING.

Will that cause undue wear and tear on an almost 3 1/2 year old machine.
Doubtful.

Are there advantages to this process, besides folding? I usually keep my machine covered when not in use related to dust. Can I still cover the G4?
Can you cover the G4?

With what?

Not the fans... that would cause overheating for sure while the machine is on...

[wdlove]

I'm sorry MrMacman, I didn't misspell your name on purpose, it was an accident.

I'm sorry, by self sleep I meant that the Cinema Display goes dark. So I can cover the display OK. I use plastic. Is it at the lower back where I need to leave it open?

When will I be able to see results of my folding stats? The last time I looked, didn't even see my name listed.

[bousozoku]

Originally posted by wdlove

...

Do you reccomend leaving my G4 on constantly? Does that mean that you just allow self sleep. Will that cause undue wear and tear on an almost 3 1/2 year old machine. Are there advantages to this process, besides folding? I usually keep my machine covered when not in use related to dust. Can I still cover the G4?

I know I'm not MrMacMac :D but I thought I'd mention that there are several maintenance processes which will happen when the machine is constantly on.

There are daily, weekly, and monthly scripts which will be automatically run to clean out old logs and do various maintenance tasks. The system will also run indexing on your user area regularly.

You should find that you would have a little more disk space, a more organised system area, and a better tuned system to enjoy while you're awake.

[wdlove]

MrMacman is Panther out of the box set to run as it should for continuous folding?

Today I haven't put it on sleep, but I noticed that it sounds the same. The two lights go up and down in waves. I didn't hear it making noise, normal?

So by the Mac running 24 hours the maintenance fixes a lot of problems? Is is similar to a Disk Doctor type repair?

Have you noticed if I'm on the list yet? I also wondering if I'm looking in the correct place.

[MrMacMan]

Letting your Monitor sleep or turn off is a good idea.

Saves a good deal of power.


Panther is 'out of the box' set up for folding, no necessary extra data needed.

As for the noise, are they the fans of the system? Are you sure you system has good ventilation (nothing blocking fans in back of computer)

Running the Mac during the nighttime allows maintenance to run some type of low level disk repair. Not as through as a 'Disk Doctor' like repair.


Currently the stats are down so I am unsure if you have turned in a work unit yet.

What I am going to ask you again is type work
in the terminal and hit enter and copy/paste them into a post.


--MrMacMan

[wdlove]

I really appreciate your continued assistance MrMacman. ;)

Last login: Wed Feb 11 20:17:55 on console
Welcome to Darwin!
Winston\032Love\213s\032Computer:~ wdlove$ work
Start of data

Process 1
Protein: p1023_FSunf_337_99
Completed 1375000 out of 2500000 steps (55%)
Completed 1400000 out of 2500000 steps (56%)
Completed 1425000 out of 2500000 steps (57%)
Completed 1450000 out of 2500000 steps (58%)
Completed 1475000 out of 2500000 steps (59%)
-rw-r--r-- 1 wdlove wdlove 0 2 Feb 21:43 wudata_01.arc
-rw-r--r-- 1 wdlove wdlove 229944 13 Feb 12:24 wudata_01CP.arc

Process 2
Protein: p1024_FSnat_273_GS
Completed 1300000 out of 2500000 steps (52%)
Completed 1325000 out of 2500000 steps (53%)
Completed 1350000 out of 2500000 steps (54%)
Completed 1375000 out of 2500000 steps (55%)
Completed 1400000 out of 2500000 steps (56%)
-rw-r--r-- 1 wdlove wdlove 0 2 Feb 21:43 wudata_01.arc
-rw-r--r-- 1 wdlove wdlove 231024 13 Feb 12:13 wudata_01CP.arc

End of data

Winston\032Love\213s\032Computer:~ wdlove$


I also want to ask you opinion on these?

http://www.mkd.cc/sox/

Cocktail

http://www.gordy-n-mikie.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?url=gordy/comp/mac_general/maintenance/

According to your answer, I just leave my Mac running as settings dictate? Can I get the monitor to shut off? Does that save energy over natural sleep, any advantages with either? It monitor sleep just easier?

I hope that you are OK my friend? ;)

[bousozoku]

According to what you've posted:

Process 1 is taking 597.00 minutes per percent
Process 2 is taking 694.50 minutes per percent

Process 1 will finish in 407.95 hours
Process 2 will finish in 509.30 hours from the time you acquired the information, of course.

That would be 17 days and 21 days to finish, respectively, at the current rate. That doesn't mean that it won't change rates.

You might want to do a work later today to confirm what I've calculated.

[wdlove]

This is after my G4 running constantly for 24 hours. Is it normal for the fan to run constantly? Notice that when not using the Mac the hard drive cycles quit frequently. MrMacman, I would really appreciate your input to my question on my previous post. I want to do what is best for my Mac, just want a second opinion. I went to the Stats page, tried to look at all pages and didn't find my name. Is there a finding mechanism? The colors and no definitive order makes it very difficult for me to find. I recognized a lot of the names on the list, just not mine!

Last login: Fri Feb 13 12:25:23 on ttyp1
Welcome to Darwin!
Winston\032Love\213s\032Computer:~ wdlove$ work
Start of data

Process 1
Protein: p1023_FSunf_337_99
Completed 1875000 out of 2500000 steps (75%)
Completed 1900000 out of 2500000 steps (76%)
Completed 1925000 out of 2500000 steps (77%)
Completed 1950000 out of 2500000 steps (78%)
Completed 1975000 out of 2500000 steps (79%)
-rw-r--r-- 1 wdlove wdlove 0 2 Feb 21:43 wudata_01.arc
-rw-r--r-- 1 wdlove wdlove 229944 14 Feb 13:39 wudata_01CP.arc

Process 2
Protein: p1024_FSnat_273_GS
Completed 1800000 out of 2500000 steps (72%)
Completed 1825000 out of 2500000 steps (73%)
Completed 1850000 out of 2500000 steps (74%)
Completed 1875000 out of 2500000 steps (75%)
Completed 1900000 out of 2500000 steps (76%)
-rw-r--r-- 1 wdlove wdlove 0 2 Feb 21:43 wudata_01.arc
-rw-r--r-- 1 wdlove wdlove 231024 14 Feb 13:37 wudata_01CP.arc

End of data

Winston\032Love\213s\032Computer:~ wdlove$
:(

[bousozoku]

According to what you've posted this time:

Process 1 is taking 75.65 minutes per percent
Process 2 is taking 76.20 minutes per percent

Process 1 will finish in 26.47 hours
Process 2 will finish in 30.48 hours from the time you acquired the information, of course.

So, you have a little over a day (from 13:37) for them both to complete and to see your name on the web page.

[MrMacMan]

wdlove --
I acually have SOX, Cocktail and also use Disk Utility...

I don't use a few features for each and a few of the features overlap, but running those programs will surely increase a little speed.

Also turning your monitor off is a very good idea, there is no reason to waste electricity for no reason.


Your work units are moving fine.

At this rate your units will be done soon, and at that time your name will be found when you search for it, but not before that.

[wdlove]

I'm nor sure what is happening, it is not running as predicted. I had the opposite problem this time. Last evening I made some backup copies of my documents. I closed all applications. This time I noticed complete silence from the G4 no fan or HD cycling? So I'm not sure if I did something wrong or not. Do these programs run intuitively, such as run through setup and how to use? Thanks again MrMacman. ;)

Last login: Sat Feb 14 13:41:01 on ttyp1
Welcome to Darwin!
Winston\032Love\213s\032Computer:~ wdlove$ work
Start of data

Process 1
Protein: p1023_FSunf_337_99
Completed 2125000 out of 2500000 steps (85%)
Completed 2150000 out of 2500000 steps (86%)
Completed 2175000 out of 2500000 steps (87%)
Completed 2200000 out of 2500000 steps (88%)
Completed 2225000 out of 2500000 steps (89%)
-rw-r--r-- 1 wdlove wdlove 0 2 Feb 21:43 wudata_01.arc
-rw-r--r-- 1 wdlove wdlove 229944 15 Feb 16:26 wudata_01CP.arc

Process 2
Protein: p1024_FSnat_273_GS
Completed 2025000 out of 2500000 steps (81%)
Completed 2050000 out of 2500000 steps (82%)
Completed 2075000 out of 2500000 steps (83%)
Completed 2100000 out of 2500000 steps (84%)
Completed 2125000 out of 2500000 steps (85%)
-rw-r--r-- 1 wdlove wdlove 0 2 Feb 21:43 wudata_01.arc
-rw-r--r-- 1 wdlove wdlove 231024 15 Feb 16:19 wudata_01CP.arc

End of data

Winston\032Love\213s\032Computer:~ wdlove$

[MrMacMan]

Yes taking longer then expected...

Hmmm...

You can always check if folding is still running by going into Your utilities folder and go to CPU Monitor/Process Viewer and check if its running.

Running slower... yes, but if its moving a long your still good.

By now (if its running) you should be near 94% on that first processor... so very very soon, by Monday night they should both be done easily.

:D

I close all of my applications that I don't use when I am not using my computer so folding runs faster... that might just be it...

[wdlove]

As always MrMacman thank you my friend! ;) My Mac when I'm not using it acts just the same as if i put it to sleep myself from the Apple menu.

Preferences - Energy Saver

Put Mac to sleep when inactive for: 10 minutes

Put Mac sleep when inactive: checked 8 minutes

Put hard disk(s) sleep when possible: checked

Winston\032Love\213s\032Computer:~ wdlove$ work
Start of data

Process 1
Protein: p1023_FSunf_337_99
Completed 2350000 out of 2500000 steps (94%)
Completed 2375000 out of 2500000 steps (95%)
Completed 2400000 out of 2500000 steps (96%)
Completed 2425000 out of 2500000 steps (97%)
-rw-r--r-- 1 wdlove wdlove 0 2 Feb 21:43 wudata_01.arc
-rw-r--r-- 1 wdlove wdlove 229944 16 Feb 15:16 wudata_01CP.arc

Process 2
Protein: p1024_FSnat_273_GS
Completed 2250000 out of 2500000 steps (90%)
Completed 2275000 out of 2500000 steps (91%)
Completed 2300000 out of 2500000 steps (92%)
Completed 2325000 out of 2500000 steps (93%)
-rw-r--r-- 1 wdlove wdlove 0 2 Feb 21:43 wudata_01.arc
-rw-r--r-- 1 wdlove wdlove 231024 16 Feb 15:13 wudata_01CP.arc

End of data

Winston\032Love\213s\032Computer:~ wdlove$

I hope that you will be able to effectively assess the problem. My hope is to be helpful to the team.


:)

[TimDaddy]

I am now running Panther. If I switch to another user, is F@H still folding in the background? Or do I need a copy of the program running on the other user's screen?

W.D. Love- I noticed you had some concerns about energy usage and wear and tear on the computer. I thought about the same thing. The only tip I can offer is to keep you modem turned off (if you have an always on connection) when a unit is nearing completion. That way, F@H will have no choice but to stop until you get online and get another work unit. At least, if you are worrying about heat, it will have a little time to cool down. Lately, I've been folding about two days. When I leave for work and it's almost done with a unit, I turn off the modem and when it completes, it has 4-8 hours before starting a new unit. I feel like I'm contradicting myself with folding. I put in all these flourecent lights, sealed off my windows in plastic four the winter and bought new more energy efficient appliances. Now, the little dent I made in the world's energy consumptions is being off-set by F@H!!! Oh well, at least it's for a good cause.

One last thing- I checked the stats, and it seems that there are nearly 100 folding teams with Apple or Mac in the name. I wonder if we could convince some of the smaller ones to disband and join us, for the common cause of getting a Mac team higher in the rankings?

[bousozoku]

wdlove:

It looks as though you have a few more hours, considering my earlier calculations and your latest posted percentages.

Personally, I have everything in the Energy Saver panel set to Never. I have a 3rd party LCD monitor that I shut off separately. I've never trusted sleep on Mac OS X since the various times I tried it on two machines were disastrous. Use it at your own risk.

It's probably cutting into the folding time somewhat, but I cannot determine without a detailed, prolonged analysis, which I'm loath to do. Boston is too far and too cold. :D

Obviously, at 75-77 minutes per percent, you're doing okay, but not burning a path to greatness. You'll feel better when you show up with 102.80 points from both work units.

[wdlove]

What do you suggest that I do MrMacman? Please check above post. ;) Want to do the best by you and my G4!

The results as of 9:18pm:

tart of data

Process 1
Protein: p1006_ppg10_pfold
Completed 0 out of 250000 steps (0%)
Completed 2500 out of 250000 steps (1%)
Completed 5000 out of 250000 steps (2%)
Completed 7500 out of 250000 steps (3%)
-rw-r--r-- 1 wdlove wdlove 0 16 Feb 17:58 wudata_02.arc
-rw-r--r-- 1 wdlove wdlove 1555644 16 Feb 21:06 wudata_02CP.arc

Process 2
Protein: p1024_FSnat_273_GS
Completed 2350000 out of 2500000 steps (94%)
Completed 2375000 out of 2500000 steps (95%)
Completed 2400000 out of 2500000 steps (96%)
Completed 2425000 out of 2500000 steps (97%)
Completed 2450000 out of 2500000 steps (98%)
-rw-r--r-- 1 wdlove wdlove 0 2 Feb 21:43 wudata_01.arc
-rw-r--r-- 1 wdlove wdlove 231024 16 Feb 20:59 wudata_01CP.arc

End of data

Winston\032Love\213s\032Computer:~ wdlove$

[MrMacMan]

wdlove -- I suggest you turn off your sleep mode.

While sleep mode is enabled Folding is not running, nor any other process.

What I don't understand is how you have 2 energy saver settings...
I have 1 setting for mac... one for monitor and one for hd spinning

I keep my mac to never sleep.
I make my monitor sleep after 2 minutes... (to save some power)
And I have the check off for hard drive spinning, it doesn't save much power... and it slows your computer.


BTW --
Congradulations on competeing 2 Work units for the folding project
http://folding.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/userpage?name=wdlove

:D

--MrMacMan