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Maximus38
Oct 18, 2008, 11:07 AM
I am in the frustrating position of having to buy a brand new Windows XP disk to use on bootcamp, even though I have a perfectly good one already that just doesn't happen to have Service Pack 2. Leaving any more discussions about Microsoft ripping people off for the time being, is it possible to buy an OEM disk (for about £50) instead of the 'proper' version (around £150?) I don't even know what OEM means, except that apparently it is meant to be used for system builders only.......are they the same in essence?
deorg
Oct 18, 2008, 11:21 AM
I am in the frustrating position of having to buy a brand new Windows XP disk to use on bootcamp, even though I have a perfectly good one already that just doesn't happen to have Service Pack 2. Leaving any more discussions about Microsoft ripping people off for the time being, is it possible to buy an OEM disk (for about £50) instead of the 'proper' version (around £150?) I don't even know what OEM means, except that apparently it is meant to be used for system builders only.......are they the same in essence?
I would recomend to torrent it, but if you wish to buy one, buy the oem, I will come the disc only maybe not even a proper cd case, just a dirty cd, thats oem, thats why is chepear. And it will also do the work.
mediumofmeaning
Oct 18, 2008, 11:29 AM
OEMs basically are full versions, just cheaper. registration will have limits, since it's for system builders.
Trainwreck707
Oct 18, 2008, 12:00 PM
Do a search for slipstreaming SP2. You should be able to use your copy of Windows and create a new disc that includes SP2.
I just installed an OEM version of Windows and it would work fine as well. The difference between an OEM and retail version of Windows is that the OEM version can only legally be installed on one computer (you can't use it if you get a new computer).
maccompaq
Oct 18, 2008, 12:23 PM
I just installed an OEM version of Windows and it would work fine as well. The difference between an OEM and retail version of Windows is that the OEM version can only legally be installed on one computer (you can't use it if you get a new computer).
I think you have reversed the OEM and the Retail version.
jag00
Oct 18, 2008, 12:40 PM
If you own a full copy of XP you can make a copy and essentially add SP2 to Windows so that it works with bootcamp. http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_sp2_slipstream.asp. It worked for me.
-J
Maximus38
Oct 18, 2008, 01:50 PM
guys thanks for the input....jag I have to say I'm tempted to try out your suggestion but it looks INCREDIBLY complicated, I can see myself spending many frustrating hours trying to figure out at which stage did I do something slightly wrong........I guess the alternative is Vista but I only have a max 2GB of RAM on my iMac, so I'm still leaning towards Windows XP despite all its flaws. I'll try out the OEM..........
Maximus38
Oct 18, 2008, 02:22 PM
guys thanks for the input....jag I have to say I'm tempted to try out your suggestion but it looks INCREDIBLY complicated, I can see myself spending many frustrating hours trying to figure out at which stage did I do something slightly wrong........I guess the alternative is Vista but I only have a max 2GB of RAM on my iMac, so I'm still leaning towards Windows XP despite all its flaws. I'll try out the OEM..........
velocityg4
Oct 18, 2008, 03:19 PM
guys thanks for the input....jag I have to say I'm tempted to try out your suggestion but it looks INCREDIBLY complicated, I can see myself spending many frustrating hours trying to figure out at which stage did I do something slightly wrong........I guess the alternative is Vista but I only have a max 2GB of RAM on my iMac, so I'm still leaning towards Windows XP despite all its flaws. I'll try out the OEM..........
Use nLite (http://www.nliteos.com/download.html) to make the SP2 slipstream or go ahead with SP3 and save a lot of time with updates. I use this for making custom install discs and it is quite easy. There are guides online for more in depth customizing. However for a simple slipstream it prompts you at each step. Once done slipstreaming you can create a burnable .iso file with nLite or burn directly to disc (personally I create the .iso and use Nero BurningROM)
SP2 download (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=049C9DBE-3B8E-4F30-8245-9E368D3CDB5A&displaylang=en)
SP3 Download (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=5b33b5a8-5e76-401f-be08-1e1555d4f3d4&displaylang=en)
I would also integrate Internet Explorer 7 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=9ae91ebe-3385-447c-8a30-081805b2f90b&displaylang=en) into the install disc using nLite.
Though more difficult I would also integrate Windows Media Player 11 and hotfixes with WMP11 slipstreamer
Slipstreamer (http://www.boooggy.org/slipstreamer/) download page also has Windows Media Player and hotfixes for download (use the WMP slipstreamer after integrating SP2 or SP3 with nLite afterwards use nLite to slipstream IE7 and any other mods to the install)
All of this assumes you still have a Windows machine.
Trainwreck707
Oct 19, 2008, 02:21 AM
I think you have reversed the OEM and the Retail version.
Nope. Microsoft's OEM license forbids the software from being installed on a whole new PC (legally)—it is permanently tied to the original computer. The retail version may be installed on a new computer as long as it is uninstalled from the previous one.
SnowLeopard2008
Oct 20, 2008, 05:08 AM
Just slipstream SP2 or SP3. OEM is the same thing as Retail, except that MS rips you off a little less.
chrono1081
Oct 20, 2008, 06:09 AM
I second nLite. It may look complicated but its actually REALLY easy.
synth3tik
Oct 20, 2008, 06:15 AM
OEM=Original Equipment Manufacturer
Let's say you buy a Dell the windows disk you get will be a Dell OEM disk. Most of the time (not all) these are version of windows set up for that computer. Lots of junk programs, but also things specific to that computer. Trick is getting one that will work correctly.
Slippery Gimp
Oct 20, 2008, 06:26 AM
I bought the OEM version of XP with SP2 on the disk, and I now have SP3 downloaded. The whole thing works flawlessly.
I also believe that it's licensed to one computer only and is non-transferable.
telecomm
Oct 20, 2008, 06:57 AM
Much confusion surrounding OEM installations is addressed here (http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070130-8730.html).
jbrenn
Oct 20, 2008, 08:47 AM
you dont need a xp sp2 disk. install xp then have sp2 on a cd install that before you install the drivers. you can install and oem copy on a mac it will work. i see people installing dell xp on other systems. legally probably not but who cares.
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