The Grand Unified Theory

[Janus20]

Here is the only one that works thro' A to Z. [/URL]http://www.thewebspert.com/cresswell/[/URL] It is a NEWTONIAN ARMAGEDDON and 380 years overdue.

Non of these devices are 'over unity' nonsense. They are always exactly 100% efficient and keep themselves that way with an uncanny Darwinian survival action. Sorry I cannot say it in a much more simple fashion but most will hack it if they try hard enough. The basics anyway.

This is very unpopular with university embryo genius. But truth, not popularity is the name of my game.

[jefhatfield]

interesting stuff but it lost me when all the formulas starting hitting me like a chinese opera;) (or any opera for that matter)

what is the website trying to prove exactly? it seems well written and researched, it's just that idiots like me have a hard time understanding the formulas presented:p

[crenz]

I don't know, I generally mistrust people that mix their personal rants and paranoidity with their theory...

[jxyama]

didn't really read the article, but many professors and researchers get these weird science stuff. i have gotten a few via email.

it's usually fluffy stuff, even if they look quite "professional." if people really wanted to prove themselves, they should publish in an established paper. of course, they will claim that they would not be taken seriously, but there's usually a good reason for that...

ok, i've skimmed it. it's fluff. proves nothing.

edit: oh, didn't realize the o.p. is the author? he he... funny.

[Les Kern]

Hmmm. Not being a psychologist but knowing a bit of what he speaks, my opinion is that he is insane.
About 10 years ago there was a man in my town that went by the nickname "The Professor". He had all manner of gadgets in his house. One day I saw his car in a parking lot. It had 100's of suction cups all over it, with a layer of paint over them. I saw him walking toward the car, so I had to ask him about them. His reply: "It's to increase gas mileage. You know how a suction cup, even as small as it is, can pick up a ton, like a bowling ball. I figure if I put these on my car it would make it lighter, therefore increasing mileage. Want to see the computations?"

This scientist is his brother.

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by crenz
I don't know, I generally mistrust people that mix their personal rants and paranoidity with their theory...

exactly! The tongue in cheek manner of a lot of it really doesn't help make me believe in it. Sure its quite technical, but *if* it was part of the GUT - then other people would be backing him up and it wouldn't go unnoticed.

Bucking the trend or thinking contrary to popularly held theories isn't a new idea - I can't validate or disprove his work - but its an interesting concept.

I work with a bunch of physicist - I'll pass this along and see what they have to say - I think I already know the answer :D

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[Janus20]

Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
exactly! The tongue in cheek manner of a lot of it really doesn't help make me believe in it. Sure its quite technical, but *if* it was part of the GUT - then other people would be backing him up and it wouldn't go unnoticed.

Bucking the trend or thinking contrary to popularly held theories isn't a new idea - I can't validate or disprove his work - but its an interesting concept.

I work with a bunch of physicist - I'll pass this along and see what they have to say - I think I already know the answer :D

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Oh dear me, I think I found a wrong forum. Physicists and especially the 'astro' type are wappy, self deluded morons. They have been brainwashed since day one university.

Can you get not even the faintest idea of the $450,000,000,000 annual rip off that they are perpetrating. OK, engineers do more cash but but physicists invented the puke that they have to drink.

As for 'peer review'. A mutual masturbation society of sci fi perversions. To even whisper that I have found this, is a euthanasia jab for each and every one of them. They all run for the far horizons because to stand means to die like a washed up Vaudeville comic.

Why does this forum defend them? You are the very people that are filling their rice bowls so handsomely. When your kids get to 13, they begin a programme of paedophilia via sci-fi education. Farm them out to forums like this, and a perpetual motion fix of ignorance is in.

When you go to a physicist for advice, the prick knows you are another mug, in less than a second.

[jxyama]

i'm a phd physicist.

while i'm not exactly offended - because i don't care at all about your opinions - but i'm sure the tone of your post will go a long way towards you getting banned.

thanks for stopping by.

[Rower_CPU]

Reads a lot to me like http://www.timecube.com. ;)

[themadchemist]

Originally posted by jxyama
i'm a phd physicist.

while i'm not exactly offended - because i don't care at all about your opinions - but i'm sure the tone of your post will go a long way towards you getting banned.

thanks for stopping by.

LOL. Very nice, calm response to what should have annoyed you a great deal. Oh, by the way, do you teach or do post-doctoral work at Michigan? I noticed you said you're situated in Ann Arbor.

Well, it's always nice to see some fresh rebel cursing the modern schools of thought. Maybe he's right, maybe he's wrong, but I think people would listen to him if he had some reproducable experiments. I just scanned it, but is it simply that he takes things that already exists and tries to promote the idea that they are potentially 100% efficient? I don't know what he's doing, but it doesn't seem like he has any REAL experiments.

Whatever. I think he could help his chances if he debated rationally with those who are skeptical, instead of accosting them with ire as members of the ranks of the established scientific circle jerk. :rolleyes: Or maybe the editors of Nature like it when their publication is called a 'programme of paedophilia via sci-fi education." That is, if they can figure out what exactly such a statement means.

I know I can't, but perhaps it requires a PhD to understand. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by Janus20
When you go to a physicist for advice, the prick knows you are another mug, in less than a second.

Although not a physicist myself, I work with physics, plasma physics, electrothermal physics, rf engineering continually at my job. Ever hear of HAARP? I've had an opportunity to develop the software that ran the system, worked along side the physicists in developing experiments and running the array myself - so I've had to absorb a good amount of science on top of what I learned in school to make sure it did what it was supposed to do. I hate having to defend myself, but seeing as how I don't have a Ph D. in physics, I felt in necessary to talk to someone who did - to see if my first impression was correct.

And by the way, the physicists I went to has a Ph D who's worked at Los Alamos before coming here.

His response? He laughed.....

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[jxyama]

the problem with these "revolutionary scientists" is that they fail to understand one aspect of science: science is built upon the foundations established by previous generations.

therefore, it's not enough to proclaim that everyone is being brainwashed and try to present something "new" because chances are, some smart people have looked at the same thing before and concluded that it's not anything new.

it's not enough to proclaim that something is new, there's also an added burden to prove that previously established foundations can also sensibly accomodate the new discovery without being contradictory. or, if something is truly revolutionary, it provides an alternative, complete and non-contradictory explanation to previously unexplained phenomenon. and in the latter case, it may take some genius and/or time for the idea to be accepted - relativity being a good example.

to claim that the theory of thermodynamics is false is like claiming that the earth is flat. there's so MUCH evidence to the contrary that one ranting webpage would hold absolutely no water against it.

[Durandal7]

Well, it starts right out with a faulty statement by stating that the solar system is a perpetual motion machine and then ranting about Darwin and humanity's arse.

It then rants about steam engines for some reason and "BSing evolution."

It goes downhill from there :rolleyes:

[jared_kipe]

Holy Crap, now I'm not a PHD physics, yet, but this is pretty absurd. I agree that him trying to disprove thermodynamics is like saying the earth is flat, but come on, he does it so well. He gives a equasion that is normally thought of a s a fact, then throws in some well know equasion like e=mc^2 and come out with such awesomely rediculous statements about perpetual energy. If that didn't make any sense then maybe I'm missing the point of the thread.

[themadchemist]

Anyone can play around with equations and make the universe seem as if it was not what it is by ignoring the physical constraints of scientific formulae (in mathematical terms, the domain of the function).

At the end of senior year of high school, I had nothing better to do, so I used infinite limits to show that all real numbers equal each other. It was fun. It was crazy. But was it legit? Absolutely not, because I flouted the domain of the function, and I allowed division of infinity by infinity.

I really don't have the time to read this garbage in full detail, I just got back from a midterm and I have a major proposal for a student government project due to the admin soon, but isn't this guy simply playing around with equations like I did in 12th grade? Then, isn't he just adding neat diagrams so that it appears that he conducted experiments and made calculations that would support his off-the-rocker hypotheses? I'm asking because I'd like to know.

[jxyama]

well, these people are out there and they believe their stuff...

i remember going to a conference and several people in the audience asked some messed up questions - these people are so convinced that their stuff is legit and that all other scientists are mad that they'd pay hundreds of dollars in conference registration fees!

one of my favorite stories is the one my old advisor told me. he said some prominent professor he knows has a folder in his drawer labeled "Public Relations." when he asked what it was, he was told it's a folder to put away things lunatics want him to read or discuss... and that he had to label it as "Public Relations" because if he labeled it as "Lunatic Papers," he thought he'd offend those people! :D

[Janus20]

Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
Although not a physicist myself, I work with physics, plasma physics, electrothermal physics, rf engineering continually at my job. Ever hear of HAARP? I've had an opportunity to develop the software that ran the system, worked along side the physicists in developing experiments and running the array myself - so I've had to absorb a good amount of science on top of what I learned in school to make sure it did what it was supposed to do. I hate having to defend myself, but seeing as how I don't have a Ph D. in physics, I felt in necessary to talk to someone who did - to see if my first impression was correct.

And by the way, the physicists I went to has a Ph D who's worked at Los Alamos before coming here.

His response? He laughed.....

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Of course he laughed. For him it was much easier than trying to apply common sense. He figures that you figure him smart if he laughs. He is going to look bloody stupid if he tries to dispute Diagram 2 with reason and logic.

He also knows you have worked with plasmas and he dare not risk ************. Los Alamos does not impress me. Einstein died wrong. He knew it and all physicists know it but still applaud him
because he was a pop star wanker.

My twin brother also has a **** from shinola problem. Retired now but when I first travelled to see him about this. He left the country, night before I arrived. He went to look at some centrifuges in the USA. Guess WHERE!!!!

My twin brother has been through Los Alamos. and the UKAEA.

[themadchemist]

Originally posted by Janus20
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Of course he laughed. For him it was much easier than trying to apply common sense. He figures that you figure him smart if he laughs. He is going to look bloody stupid if he tries to dispute Diagram 2 with reason and logic.

He also knows you have worked with plasmas and he dare not risk ************. Los Alamos does not impress me. Einstein died wrong. He knew it and all physicists know it but still applaud him
because he was a pop star wanker.

My twin brother also has a **** from shinola problem. Retired now but when I first travelled to see him about this. He left the country, night before I arrived. He went to look at some centrifuges in the USA. Guess WHERE!!!!

My twin brother has been through Los Alamos. and the UKAEA.

Calling Albert Enstein a 'pop star wanker' does very little to improve your credibility, I daresay. Come back to us with reasoned responses instead of crass rhetoric, and perhaps we, and others, will listen.

jxyama--you're a physicist. Do you know that Einstein was wrong but still applaud him because he was a pop star wanker?

[Dippo]

This thread is just a plug for Janus20's website.

I don't think an aggresive and hostile approach is going to win anyone to your side.

I skimmed through the site and found it to be a bunch of inconsistent babble, but that's just my opinion.

[themadchemist]

Originally posted by Dippo
This thread is just a plug for Janus20's website.


Well, obviously! But why not squeeze out some more of that indignant, ascorbic ire while we can? If he's willing to spew it, I'm willing to soak it up, because it's just oh so entertaining. I can't wait for the next selection from his colorful vocabulary. Quick! Someone politely disagree with him so that he can let out his vengeance upon us with that wry wit of his! :)

Seriously, though, I'd love to hear a reasoned reply from him, if he's got one.

[Dippo]

Originally posted by themadchemist
Well, obviously! But why not squeeze out some more of that indignant, ascorbic ire while we can? If he's willing to spew it, I'm willing to soak it up, because it's just oh so entertaining. I can't wait for the next selection from his colorful vocabulary. Quick! Someone politely disagree with him so that he can let out his vengeance upon us with that wry wit of his! :)

Seriously, though, I'd love to hear a reasoned reply from him, if he's got one.

Well okay then,

IMHO, Einstein was actually god on earth. He was not only right, he created everything so how could be be wrong? I have a shrine to Einstien and I pray to him everyday.

I hope that works ;)

[themadchemist]

Originally posted by Dippo
Well okay then,

IMHO, Einstein was actually god on earth. He was not only right, he created everything so how could be be wrong? I have a shrine to Einstien and I pray to him everyday.

I hope that works ;)

thank you, thank you very much.

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by themadchemist
Quick! Someone politely disagree with him so that he can let out his vengeance upon us with that wry wit of his! :)

Seriously, though, I'd love to hear a reasoned reply from him, if he's got one.

The above is quite true especially of a class of troll that likes to show their point of view as being oh so much better than everybody elses - degrading everything and everyone as being stupid, ignorant, banal and insiped.

Janus20 - you mentioned in your first response that you had found the wrong forum....this is a Mac Rumors forum, not a physics forum - what sort of forum where you looking for? Have you tried posting this in other forums? (My guess is yes)

What sort of response did you get there?

D

[crenz]

Janus20, as I said: As long as you keep on insulting people, I don't see a point in listening to your theories.

History of science is full of people that went against conventions - and succeeded! However, if you want to go this way, you have to learn to respect and understand those that disagree with you. Otherwise, you will not succeed. That is common sense, by the way.

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
Have you tried posting this in other forums? (My guess is yes)

:D

http://www.youdebate.com/cgi-bin/scarecrow/topic.cgi?forum=3&topic=933

http://www.energy.kth.se/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=22

Einstein a Retarded Fart? (http://www.tech-forums.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6529) Very nice one :rolleyes:

And the list goes on....

I love google :D

D

[jxyama]

well, here's my take...

i've dealt with some people of this type. it's futile trying to talk sense to them - it's similar to trying to convince a manic depressive schizo that no one is out to kill him... it's just not a very fruitful thing to do. (no offense implied, btw, if anyone's close friend/family is affected by such a condition...)

anyway, einstein wasn't entirely "right." he died having never fully accepted the quantum theory. however, to call him 'pop star wanker' is absurd, disrespectful and simply tasteless. his contributions in photoelectric effect and relativity are many orders of magnitude greater than most physicists dream to accomplish in a lifetime.

einstein solved incompatibility between electromagnetism and newtonian mechanics - special relativity. and his ideas were truely revolutionary, questioning the age old newtonian mechanics - however, he accomplished it all without resorting to cursing others, disrespecting the contributions of previous generations of scientists and generally acting paranoid with tin hat over his head. :rolleyes:

[themadchemist]

Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
:D

http://www.youdebate.com/cgi-bin/scarecrow/topic.cgi?forum=3&topic=933

http://www.energy.kth.se/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=22

Einstein a Retarded Fart? (http://www.tech-forums.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6529) Very nice one :rolleyes:

And the list goes on....

I love google :D

D

His problem is that he doesn't really make any sense when he posts...I mean, read his last post in the classic thread 'Einstein a Retarded Fart?' and I challenge you to figure out what the hell he's talking about.

In reality, I kind of feel sorry for him, mainly because he says he's 65 years old, not some cracked out 25 year old who had a shroom-induced enlightening experience.

[Durandal7]

Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
Ever hear of HAARP? I've had an opportunity to develop the software that ran the system, worked along side the physicists in developing experiments and running the array myself

HAARP is quite a technological feat. I remember hearing it full blast on my shortwave receiver a few years back, the array is so powerful that I thought someone in the neighborhood had a high power transmitter and was transmitting data packets. Imagine my surprise when I learned it was an array up in Alaska :eek: :D

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by Durandal7
HAARP is quite a technological feat. I remember hearing it full blast on my shortwave receiver a few years back, the array is so powerful that I thought someone in the neighborhood had a high power transmitter and was transmitting data packets. Imagine my surprise when I learned it was an array up in Alaska :eek: :D

Ha! That's friggin awesome! And guess what? Right now it has 48 antennas - a phased array, 6x8 with 10 kW per tx (2 tx per tower) The spec had the beam pointing 30° off zenith, but we don't have the full array yet. They just broke ground on the site expansion - 192 dipoles total - a 12x16 antenna array. Its going to be the largest Ionospheric facility in the world. Great stuff and I have some very cool pics. Here's one that I did way back in 97 or so. I have a 7' version at the office (its 6 35mm pics scanned in a high res and stitched together by hand - the ground screen was deadly getting right).

Its great that someone actually knows about HAARP here :D

D

[jefhatfield]

like i said before, i may not know exactly what he is getting at with this thread and all those formulas, but for those of you who disagree with him and know physics, why do you disagree?

not his style, but with what he is saying in those formulas?

i am not trying to defend him, but someone explain what he is getting at, that's all:)

[Les Kern]

Originally posted by Janus20
Oh dear me, I think I found a wrong forum. Physicists and especially the 'astro' type are wappy, self deluded morons. They have been brainwashed since day one university.

Can you get not even the faintest idea of the $450,000,000,000 annual rip off that they are perpetrating. OK, engineers do more cash but but physicists invented the puke that they have to drink.

As for 'peer review'. A mutual masturbation society of sci fi perversions. To even whisper that I have found this, is a euthanasia jab for each and every one of them. They all run for the far horizons because to stand means to die like a washed up Vaudeville comic.

Why does this forum defend them? You are the very people that are filling their rice bowls so handsomely. When your kids get to 13, they begin a programme of paedophilia via sci-fi education. Farm them out to forums like this, and a perpetual motion fix of ignorance is in.

When you go to a physicist for advice, the prick knows you are another mug, in less than a second.

Exactly what the hell is wrong with you?? Genetic? Chemical? Don't get me wrong; I do care.

[Dippo]

Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
Ha! That's friggin awesome! And guess what? Right now it has 48 antennas - a phased array, 6x8 with 10 kW per tx (2 tx per tower) The spec had the beam pointing 30° off zenith, but we don't have the full array yet. They just broke ground on the site expansion - 192 dipoles total - a 12x16 antenna array. Its going to be the largest Ionospheric facility in the world. Great stuff and I have some very cool pics. Here's one that I did way back in 97 or so. I have a 7' version at the office (its 6 35mm pics scanned in a high res and stitched together by hand - the ground screen was deadly getting right).

Its great that someone actually knows about HAARP here :D

D

Exactly what is the HAARP used for? I guess I could google it but I am too lazy.

[rainman::|:|]

well i'm no physicist, and i have no PhD, but i am a Mensan, as are many of my friends-- who all agree that this is not only flawed but rather boring. the supposition, at most basic, seems that perpetual motion exists in a grand scale relative to the entire universe, so it must exist on smaller scales, and any laws (eg the laws of physics) that disagree must be wrong, opening all sorts of doors to inane "what-if"s. hell, to get around the basic energy transfer at atomic levels, he redraws the atom. when i learned about energy transfer and the laws of physics, i always learned that the universe practices total energy conservation-- no energy is able to leave it, so the total amount of potential and kinetic energy in the universe remains the same, at all times. it's just transfered. you know what? that makes sense. this doesnt.

point is, i don't think we'll be asking him to come speak for us anytime soon :rolleyes:

but, like the timecube, it's fun to read when you're feeling especially estranged from your sanity-- makes you realize you're not as bad as you thought ;)

paul

[G5orbust]

Originally posted by Dippo
Exactly what is the HAARP used for? I guess I could google it but I am too lazy.

Ill save you some time:

http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/

As for contributing to this thread, I really cant add much, but from what I know, Einstein is not at all wrong, but conversely not at all the end all of physics knowledge. In fact, Einstein was just the man who opened the door to a world of physics never before dreamed of in the history of man.

Perpetual motion machines are machines that run on their own power without use of any external source of energy. Wouldnt this concept alone break every current law of physics that applies to it? Regardless of what this guy says, the energy must come from somewhere to make the machine go. Even the origin of the universe is disputed because the energy to make the Big Bang happen had to come from somewhere. String Theory's 'branes' help to explain this by saying that infinite amounts of universes on infinite planes hit eachother occasionally, giving the necessary energy to create the Big Bang.

Systems may be infinitely efficient to the point where energy loss is minimized and the systems can continue to run without any more input, but the systems cannot violate the second law of thermodynamics and therefore they will eventually let all the energy dissipate and it will require additional fuel. Plain as rain, if you ask me.

Im 15, so I cant exactly give an expert's point of view, but basing my view on common sense, Id say this guy is wrong (not to mention Id be inclined to side with a Physics PhD any day).

[jefhatfield]

Originally posted by G5orbust
Ill save you some time:

http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/

As for contributing to this thread, I really cant add much, but from what I know, Einstein is not at all wrong, but conversely not at all the end all of physics knowledge. In fact, Einstein was just the man who opened the door to a world of physics never before dreamed of in the history of man.

Perpetual motion machines are machines that run on their own power without use of any external source of energy. Wouldnt this concept alone break every current law of physics that applies to it? Regardless of what this guy says, the energy must come from somewhere to make the machine go. Even the origin of the universe is disputed because the energy to make the Big Bang happen had to come from somewhere. String Theory's 'branes' help to explain this by saying that infinite amounts of universes on infinite planes hit eachother occasionally, giving the necessary energy to create the Big Bang.

Systems may be infinitely efficient to the point where energy loss is minimized and the systems can continue to run without any more input, but the systems cannot violate the second law of thermodynamics and therefore they will eventually let all the energy dissipate and it will require additional fuel. Plain as rain, if you ask me.

Im 15, so I cant exactly give an expert's point of view, but basing my view on common sense, Id say this guy is wrong (not to mention Id be inclined to side with a Physics PhD any day).

for a 15 year old, you are very smart and with it..and you have usc in your avatar..i give you five stars ;)

you will definitely get into usc...everyone at my high school with high scores applied there and at stanford (the two best colleges in california) and all were rejected to usc and one made it into stanford...but as second choices, people put ucla in lieu of usc and cal instead of stanford as backup plans since they are much easier to get into and much more affordable, but at the same time getting a good education

i had a friend who got into usc and hayward state for their respective mba programs...but my friend was shortsighted and cheap and chose hayward and has regretted it every day in the 20 years since...his standard greeting is hi, my name is jim and 20 years ago i got accepted to usc but didn't go:p

[tpjunkie]

for all that malarkey he wrote, I wish it could have at least been entertaining :rolleyes:

[Janus20]

Originally posted by tpjunkie
for all that malarkey he wrote, I wish it could have at least been entertaining :rolleyes:
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And what would a serial posting mcMouse Rider in the Sky know about 'serious' matters. Methinks your mommy still has to lead you indoors when it rains.

[themadchemist]

Originally posted by Janus20
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And what would a serial posting mcMouse Rider in the Sky know about 'serious' matters. Methinks your mommy still has to lead you indoors when it rains.

And what would a refusal to acknowledge and address people's questions and concerns say about these 'serious' matter. Methinks you know that you know nothing and that you therefore resort to unacceptable name-calling of those who ask you questions and those who know/knew far more than you will ever know in order to deflect legitimate concerns.

Why haven't you answered jefhatfield's sincere questions? Why haven't you responded to my questions about whether or not these ideas of yours are just mathematical manipulation? Why haven't you tried to dispel with jxyama's incredulity? Or cleared up paulwhannel's doubts about your logical reasoning? Or corrected G5 or bust's position on perpetual motion?

My guess is because you can't.

[Dippo]

Originally posted by Janus20
And what would a serial posting mcMouse Rider in the Sky know about 'serious' matters. Methinks your mommy still has to lead you indoors when it rains.

I would be lying if I said that I didn't see that coming :)
Bye Bye Janus20.

I think this thread is done.

[G5orbust]

Originally posted by Dippo
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I think this thread is done.


Agreed.