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anim8or
Oct 20, 2008, 02:12 PM
I have been around these forums for a couple of years now and I have contributed both ways, had my rants, laughed with and at many, many posters.... as have we all, yet i still cannot get over the fact that soooooooo many people who 'live' here are so bloody grumpy.....

There is this one poster, i wont name names, who i always see on threads where people are asking advice on things, quite specific things and not things that are present in other threads, its in a specialist forum on the site.... and his post always leave me angry, i have even felt his wrath on one occasion!

Why dont these people just leave instead of spending what they always say their 'precious time' answer benign queries!!!

.....rant over :o

Dejavu
Oct 20, 2008, 02:17 PM
You should report the member to the moderators.

Sometimes if they get enough reports and it is decided that he/she has a pattern of trolling, they will be banned. You can also put them on ignore if their posts trouble you enough.

Blue Velvet
Oct 20, 2008, 02:17 PM
Just as a general statement, please report any problematic posts and let the mods deal with things rather than getting into any arguments with people.

I haven't met my ban quota this month and time is running out. ;)

synth3tik
Oct 20, 2008, 02:18 PM
If you feel that some people are harassing other people I would report it. Every now and again we may leave something less then desirable in the forums, but it someone is just badgering people the Mods should know about it.

chilipie
Oct 20, 2008, 02:22 PM
I haven't met my ban quota this month and time is running out. ;)
Ooo, pick me, pick me! :D

You should report the member to the moderators.

Sometimes if they get enough reports and it is decided that he/she has a pattern of trolling, they will be banned. You can also put them on ignore if their posts trouble you enough.
Out of interest, Blue Velvet, if someone leaves several posts in the same thread that look like they merit reporting, is it worth reporting all of them or is that just more hassle?

GGJstudios
Oct 20, 2008, 02:28 PM
I can say that the moderators have always been great at addressing problems that are reported, and they're happy to explain what they consider problematic posts, so you don't waste their time with unnecessary reports.

Blue Velvet
Oct 20, 2008, 02:33 PM
... if someone leaves several posts in the same thread that look like they merit reporting, is it worth reporting all of them or is that just more hassle?

Please report anything that breaks forum rules (http://guides.macrumors.com/Help:Forum_Rules), even if it's just trolling or bickering. Multiple posts usually mean problems down the line which we like to be made aware of. :)

chilipie
Oct 20, 2008, 02:43 PM
Please report anything that breaks forum rules (http://guides.macrumors.com/Help:Forum_Rules), even if it's just trolling or bickering. Multiple posts usually mean problems down the line which we like to be made aware of. :)

Having just done a search for his posts it seems the user in question has been disappeared from MR, but thank you anyway. :)

skunk
Oct 20, 2008, 02:44 PM
Having just done a search for his posts it seems the user in question has been disappeared from MRThe Moderators are not to be trifled with...

Blue Velvet
Oct 20, 2008, 02:48 PM
The Moderators are not to be trifled with...

Hush. You'll have people shaking like jelly. ;)

chilipie
Oct 20, 2008, 02:51 PM
Hush. You'll have people shaking like jelly. ;)

*Ice cream and run away.*

WildCowboy
Oct 20, 2008, 05:18 PM
Out of interest, Blue Velvet, if someone leaves several posts in the same thread that look like they merit reporting, is it worth reporting all of them or is that just more hassle?

If there is a string of posts that need to be addressed, you don't have to report each one. Simply reporting the first problem post and then noting in the reason field that there are subsequent posts that should be looked as well is generally sufficient.

Notes like "and another one a few posts down" and "check out all of this user's posts in this thread" can help notify us that a thorough analysis/cleanup is required.

anim8or
Oct 20, 2008, 06:28 PM
this is all fair and true... but what i was getting at is why?

Why bother coming on here just to make people feel less about their situation, i mean this guy i speak about hasn't exactly been posting anything particularly offensive or directly insulting... he just seems to have this know it all attitude and everytime i come across him i just wanna PM him and give him a berating for being so cold to people, he is supposed to be a professional in his field but i'll be damned if i were to ever work for this guy!!!!

Im sure there is no REAL answer to this thread but perhaps sharing our frustrations with people's attitudes will help relieve our own frustration!

Doctor Q
Oct 20, 2008, 11:09 PM
this is all fair and true... but what i was getting at is why?

Why bother coming on here just to make people feel less about their situation, i mean this guy i speak about hasn't exactly been posting anything particularly offensive or directly insulting... he just seems to have this know it all attitude and everytime i come across him i just wanna PM him and give him a berating for being so cold to people, he is supposed to be a professional in his field but i'll be damned if i were to ever work for this guy!!!!

Im sure there is no REAL answer to this thread but perhaps sharing our frustrations with people's attitudes will help relieve our own frustration!
I think some people like to use their knowledge more to show off and flatter themselves than to help people for the sake of being a good citizen. It's nice to have knowledgeable members who can provide answers, but if it comes with a condescending attitude then we're better off without it.

In some cases, this type of person will make posts that aren't breaking specific forum rules, but are simply unnecessarily unfriendly. You can still let the moderators know if you have concerns about posts of that type, so they can note if there is a pattern of behavior that warrants a reminder or warning to the member.

Samarium
Oct 20, 2008, 11:14 PM
There is this one poster, i wont name names, who i always see on threads where people are asking advice on things, quite specific things and not things that are present in other threads, its in a specialist forum on the site.... and his post always leave me angry, i have even felt his wrath on one occasion!


Me? :confused:

Phrasikleia
Oct 20, 2008, 11:21 PM
I recently encountered an individual who was abusive and rude for no apparent reason, and it actually made me question my involvement here...until I reminded myself that the vast majority of the people on these forums are very good natured, helpful, and respectful...also full of crazy opinions, sure, but that keeps things interesting. :)

Abstract
Oct 21, 2008, 06:54 AM
this is all fair and true... but what i was getting at is why?

Why bother coming on here just to make people feel less about their situation, i mean this guy i speak about hasn't exactly been posting anything particularly offensive or directly insulting... he just seems to have this know it all attitude and everytime i come across him i just wanna PM him and give him a berating for being so cold to people, he is supposed to be a professional in his field but i'll be damned if i were to ever work for this guy!!!!

Im sure there is no REAL answer to this thread but perhaps sharing our frustrations with people's attitudes will help relieve our own frustration!

I think most people know of the 2 or 3 people you could be referring to, and while I agree with you, I'd only report him if I think he has done something wrong. You can't ban someone because you don't like him/her/them. If you're really bothered by this, use the Block function to block all posts created by this user you're talking about. That's what you do to people you don't personally like, but haven't actually broken any rules.

Me? :confused:

Ughh..... *block user*





;)

rdowns
Oct 21, 2008, 02:16 PM
Me? :confused:

If you have to ask...

Samarium
Oct 21, 2008, 02:22 PM
Ok. People get mad with me because I tell them that their thread is not in the correct forum, or that there is already a thread about that so they have to use the search button or MRoogle on my signature. So, if it's me please tell me.

robbieduncan
Oct 21, 2008, 02:34 PM
because I tell them that their thread is not in the correct forum, or that there is already a thread about that

Use the report button. The moderators can move or merge threads.

IJ Reilly
Oct 21, 2008, 03:05 PM
As unofficial spokesperson for the UGP (union of grumpy posters) I would like to add that it's not always easy to provide advice and feel like you've made much of a difference. No small proportion of advice-askers tend to be advice-ignorers if the answer isn't what they expected it to be.

MacNut
Oct 21, 2008, 03:12 PM
I think a lot of the members attitudes would improve if the questions being asked were not so stupid. How many times can you answer the same questions without going insane.

Samarium
Oct 21, 2008, 03:29 PM
Ok. I feel better now.

Consultant
Oct 21, 2008, 04:00 PM
I think a lot of the members attitudes would improve if the questions being asked were not so stupid. How many times can you answer the same questions without going insane.

Exactly. The search needs to be improved, also newbies need to be forced to search a few times before they post.

GGJstudios
Oct 21, 2008, 04:16 PM
Exactly. The search needs to be improved, also newbies need to be forced to search a few times before they post.
I couldn't agree with this more! Especially before they can post a new thread. There should be a minimum time/post requirement for starting new threads. It's too bad the forum can't be "smart" enough (the software, not the people!) that when you try to post a new thread, it says, "That question has been asked before. Here are links to the threads where you can find answers." That would make it easier to find answers and free up time to spend on the more complex and new issues.

allmIne
Oct 21, 2008, 05:18 PM
While there is a small minority of nasty posters, I tend to find that a larger number are either misinformed in virtually every post they make, or are just miserable, and take life too seriously.

I was a fairly prolific poster a few years back, and I've really noticed a difference in attitude this time. Life's just far too short to be miserable on the internet, of all places :)

andy.

roisin and mac
Oct 21, 2008, 06:18 PM
OP, for what it's worth I've kind of seen the same thing sometimes, I do have a couple of people where whenever I see them, I'm like, oh man, not them again! lol. One or two sometimes get downright creepy in their quickness to condemn. Of course it gets particularly ugly over in the politics, religion, social issues forum-where I tend to end up sometimes, because I often can't really help with other people's questions in the 'proper', main mac forums as I'm largely a noob myself really. There you have a couple of sort of 'trigger topics', where whenever someone brings it up, I can pretty much predict who will say what and at pretty much what point in the discussion. Needless to say, I hung out there for a bit after my 100th post (the lure of the recently forbidden ya see, lol), but after a few weeks I stopped going unless the most recent thread, which showed up, was intriguing.

I like Blue Velvet lol, she's on the prowl now looking for transgressors :p

Samarium
Oct 21, 2008, 06:20 PM
Is there any way to force to make a search before making a thread? Things that could help to reduce multiple threads is by making a minimum post count for making new threads because there are lots of people that will only join for asking a question and never come back, so the past threads are practically a huge datebase that helps out most of the people solve their problems.

dukebound85
Oct 21, 2008, 06:22 PM
except that not searching is not a prob just for the newcomers. i know i sometimes foregt to search

EricNau
Oct 21, 2008, 06:24 PM
I think a lot of the members attitudes would improve if the questions being asked were not so stupid. How many times can you answer the same questions without going insane.
Then don't answer the questions that bother you.

Honestly, I don't see what the big deal is. The more times a question is asked, the easier it becomes to answer.

There's no excuse for rudeness.

Gray-Wolf
Oct 21, 2008, 06:34 PM
Is there any way to force to make a search before making a thread? Things that could help to reduce multiple threads is by making a minimum post count for making new threads because there are lots of people that will only join for asking a question and never come back, so the past threads are practically a huge datebase that helps out most of the people solve their problems.

Actually, must posters should be adult and mature enough to do a search. Who knows, the answer to your question could be right under your nose. ;)

*Adult does not always equal Mature* :D

IJ Reilly
Oct 21, 2008, 06:48 PM
While there is a small minority of nasty posters, I tend to find that a larger number are either misinformed in virtually every post they make, or are just miserable, and take life too seriously.

Or just like to judge others harshly.

iBlue
Oct 22, 2008, 01:28 AM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone 3G; CPU iPhone OS 0_o) like Mac OS X; O HAI) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Vendor/ My Pimp Hand is way strong/ Safari/420.69)

Don't take it too seriously or personally, the internet is rife with douchebaggery and other unpleasantries.

I present you with the theorem:

http://upc.edesignuk.com/uploads/macros/internetdickwadtheory.jpg

Though if it's a constant problem then report it to the mods and they may dish out a bitchslapping if warranted.

MacNut
Oct 22, 2008, 01:32 AM
Stealing your wireless (ifone: Mozilla/6.0 (ifone; U; CPU BB OS 2_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.18.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) lookin at porn

You can't take stuff seriously on the internets.

alphaod
Oct 22, 2008, 01:11 PM
Well I post on every forsaken thread, so I hope it isn't me. If it is :D

jeremy.king
Oct 23, 2008, 02:57 PM
Just ignore them. User CP > Buddy / Ignore Lists

Antares
Oct 23, 2008, 04:31 PM
I think a lot of the members attitudes would improve if the questions being asked were not so stupid. How many times can you answer the same questions without going insane.

But couldn't you argue that this is exactly what teachers do? Teach the same subject and answer the same types of questions over and over again...only to new students? In a way you're doing the same thing for forum members who "didn't take that class before" or are new. Yes, you could simply tell a forum member to search for the answer or tell them where to look...just like a teacher could tell a student to go search the library for the answer or the answer is in Book X. Sometimes, that may be the best approach. However, sometimes it's just easier to answer the student on the spot.

The thing is, if you don't want to deal with answering or hearing/reading the same questions over and over again, don't get in front of the class in the first place. Now, it's a completely different thing if the same student is asking the same question over and over again....Then, there's a problem.

MacNut
Oct 23, 2008, 04:33 PM
The difference is that we have a search here. If students could search everything it would save a lot of education costs.;)

killerrobot
Oct 23, 2008, 06:02 PM
Stealing your wireless (ifone: Mozilla/6.0 (ifone; U; CPU BB OS 2_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.18.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) lookin at porn

You can't take stuff seriously on the internets.

Wait a second ... am I suppose to take that seriously?;)

bigandy
Oct 23, 2008, 07:00 PM
If you don't like it, go on the internet and complain about it!

...oh, wait, you already have. :o



I haven't met my ban quota this month and time is running out. ;)

*runs* ;)

Compile 'em all
Oct 23, 2008, 07:04 PM
Internet: Serious Business

iBlue
Oct 24, 2008, 01:09 AM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone 3G; CPU iPhone OS 0_o) like Mac OS X; dude) AppleWebKizzle/420.1 (KHTMLOL the dude abides) Venda/ that rug really tied the room together/ Safari/420.69)

But couldn't you argue that this is exactly what teachers do? Teach the same subject and answer the same types of questions over and over again...only to new students? In a way you're doing the same thing for forum members who "didn't take that class before" or are new. Yes, you could simply tell a forum member to search for the answer or tell them where to look...just like a teacher could tell a student to go search the library for the answer or the answer is in Book X. Sometimes, that may be the best approach. However, sometimes it's just easier to answer the student on the spot.

The thing is, if you don't want to deal with answering or hearing/reading the same questions over and over again, don't get in front of the class in the first place. Now, it's a completely different thing if the same student is asking the same question over and over again....Then, there's a problem.

Difference is, that is their job and they are being paid to do it (albeit poorly). They knew what they were in for. While most people here also know that the internet is full of n00bs who lazily want to use us as a free hotline for their problems, it is not unexpected or unreasonable for a couple of snappy posts here and there as a result. It's the way of the internet.

I think the majority of people who have put on their n00b stomping shoes have also taken them off and stuck up for the n00bs just as many times. It's a cycle, you see. :p

But anyway, enough seriousness.

econoline06
Oct 24, 2008, 01:46 PM
Sorry, not to disrespect the moderators, but often times I have seen people put in time outs or temp-bans for saying very truthful things to people that were freaking out on others, I'm not sure what that nonsense is all about, but it has happened a few times now. My suggestion is just be more open minded when it comes to people and why they are saying the things that they are. That aside, I do feel that too many people on these forums are here simply to rant and complain because it is the only place they can do it. What are the consequences here really? At most a time out or ban, but that is easily remedied. In all honesty the macrumors group has to be the most negative bunch I have run across out there on the web in regards to Apple forums.

econoline06
Oct 24, 2008, 01:48 PM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone 3G; CPU iPhone OS 0_o) like Mac OS X; O HAI) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Vendor/ My Pimp Hand is way strong/ Safari/420.69)

Don't take it too seriously or personally, the internet is rife with douchebaggery and other unpleasantries.

I present you with the theorem:

http://upc.edesignuk.com/uploads/macros/internetdickwadtheory.jpg

Though if it's a constant problem then report it to the mods and they may dish out a bitchslapping if warranted.

That is the most truthful thing I have ever read...:) good one

mkrishnan
Oct 24, 2008, 01:53 PM
often times I have seen people put in time outs or temp-bans for saying very truthful things to people that were freaking out on others

No one is ever banned, in any instance of which I can think, either temporarily or permanently, for stating their opinion. We have issued time-outs many times for how a person expresses their personal opinion -- we don't tolerate name calling, personal attacks, racial or sexual slurs, etc, and we don't apologize for this.

Also, sometimes, you may see a post by a person who is temporarily banned and draw the conclusion that the person was banned for that post, when in fact the issue at hand was something completely different.

If you see a case where you believe a person was incorrectly banned, you may feel free to PM an administrator to let them know your thoughts. You may or may not receive a response, as bannings and other actions against specific members are between us and them, but you can rest assured that your concern will be read by our administrative team.

Sayer
Oct 24, 2008, 05:24 PM
Funny how intolerant so-called tolerant people become when there is a disagreement over opinion of all things or people use a message board to post a request for info instead of google built right into the Safari UI and the answer is on the top half of the first search results page.

Give a man a fish (taken from 5% of the fishermen for the other 95% apparently) and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime, or until fishing is banned and you go back to eating squirrels or other small animals that you can catch with little effort.

leekohler
Oct 24, 2008, 08:29 PM
Exactly. The search needs to be improved, also newbies need to be forced to search a few times before they post.

The search function is a bit rough. I know I always have a hard time when I use it.

GGJstudios
Oct 24, 2008, 10:42 PM
The search function is a bit rough. I know I always have a hard time when I use it.
That's why I always recommend MRoogle (http://mroogle.edesignuk.com/).

teflon
Oct 27, 2008, 01:47 AM
I think after you registered, MR should send you an email with some tips as to how to use the forum. Or when you first logged in, there should be a little tip box that appears and tells you to search before starting threads.

That should cut down those notoriously repetitive "should I buy now or should I wait", "when is ___ coming", "which iPod should I get" threads.

Ktscheinqe
Oct 27, 2008, 06:04 AM
Is there any way to force to make a search before making a thread?
the posting process could run the new subject line thru google, for example: site forums.macrumors.com Help!!! :-)
and then whichever 2004 thread is found, will get bumped.
:-)

As unofficial spokesperson for the UGP (union of grumpy posters) I would like to add that it's not always easy to provide advice and feel like you've made much of a difference. No small proportion of advice-askers tend to be advice-ignorers if the answer isn't what they expected it to be. Maybe the advice is too unfamiliar? or seems too complex to perform? so, they hope there's another solution? (i'm guessing...)

IJ Reilly
Oct 27, 2008, 10:33 AM
Maybe the advice is too unfamiliar? or seems too complex to perform? so, they hope there's another solution? (i'm guessing...)

Sometimes, but I don't think this is a major issue. The most common question where I find advice is frequently ignored is "how do I reinstall OSX?" The advice I and others typically give is that the reinstall of OSX probably isn't necessary to fix whatever problem they may be experiencing. But a substantial percentage of people who ask this question have already convinced themselves that a reinstall is the only solution, and will ignore any advice to the contrary. Human nature, I guess.

rhett7660
Nov 9, 2008, 11:10 AM
Sometimes, but I don't think this is a major issue. The most common question where I find advice is frequently ignored is "how do I reinstall OSX?" The advice I and others typically give is that the reinstall of OSX probably isn't necessary to fix whatever problem they may be experiencing. But a substantial percentage of people who ask this question have already convinced themselves that a reinstall is the only solution, and will ignore any advice to the contrary. Human nature, I guess.

Or they are coming from a windows background and this is the only real solution they know how to solve the problem at hand. :D

Schtumple
Nov 10, 2008, 09:57 PM
Well I post on every forsaken thread, so I hope it isn't me. If it is… :D

Same here, I'm harsh against those who I feel deserve it, I'm rarely nice to younger members, usually because the threads I come across that they post are so pointless they defy logic and reason as to why they were created...

/micro rant.

iVeBeenDrinkin'
Nov 10, 2008, 10:09 PM
Do you ever get banned if you are a Demi-God?

Blue Velvet
Nov 10, 2008, 10:13 PM
Do you ever get banned if you are a Demi-God?


Yes. The Demis are contributors to the site for $25 per year (http://forums.macrumors.com/payments.php), and are subject to the same forum rules as everybody else, although they also have a number of small perks. It doesn't happen that often because the Demis tend to have a vested interest in supporting the forum.

Schtumple
Nov 10, 2008, 10:20 PM
Do you ever get banned if you are a Demi-God?

Yes. The Demis are contributors to the site for $25 per year (http://forums.macrumors.com/payments.php), and are subject to the same forum rules as everybody else, although they also have a number of small perks. It doesn't happen that often because the Demis tend to have a vested interest in supporting the forum.

Actually it's all a big conspiracy, I will hide more information in secret posts exactly 2 weeks from now, I must be quick, before they pick up on this, oh god, they foun...

USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST

:p

GGJstudios
Nov 10, 2008, 11:01 PM
the posting process could run the new subject line thru google, for example: site forums.macrumors.com Help!!! :-)
and then whichever 2004 thread is found, will get bumped.

Actually, with MRoogle, you can put a time-limit on the search, so it only shows posts within the past year or 3 months or month. No need to pull up ancient posts in a search.

mgguy
Nov 11, 2008, 12:15 AM
I think new members should be cut a lot of slack. Many offenders of MR rules may be new not only to MR but also to forums generally and even the internet. For the first several weeks newbies stumble around making mistakes, like not doing searches or posting what more experienced Mac and MR users might think are stupid questions. It takes a while to learn the protocols of posting, and if you try to rush it you risk alienating new members. Of course, an abrasive communication style may never improve much, but even then I think there should be toleration unless the poster is really over-the-line offensive.

IJ Reilly
Nov 11, 2008, 10:39 AM
There are no stupid questions. In addition to trying to help people here, I teach an introductory Mac class at a community college -- so if I thought any question was too dumb or basic to ask, I certainly would not subject myself to standing in front of a classroom for three hours.

I see two issues here with increasing frequency:

First, even after it's been pointed out that a given topic has been discussed 20 times in last few months (with links to the discussions provided), the new thread on the topic often carries on as if this information had not been provided. The second is when advice is ignored when the answer isn't what the questioner expected.

For me, these are the real forehead-slapping moments on this forum.

Blue Velvet
Nov 11, 2008, 10:43 AM
First, even after it's been pointed out that a given topic has been discussed 20 times in last few months (with links to the discussions provided), the new thread on the topic often carries on as if this information had not been provided.


We're quite happy to close redundant or duplicate threads if the threads which answer their questions are clearly signposted, if they're reported. Particularly glossy vs. matte ones. ;)

IJ Reilly
Nov 11, 2008, 10:50 AM
We're quite happy to close redundant or duplicate threads if the threads which answer their questions are clearly signposted, if they're reported. Particularly glossy vs. matte ones. ;)

I know, but I suppose I am reluctant to blow the whistle. Some new members seem to get their feelings hurt when you simply point out that they've started a new thread on a dead horse topic. I worry that having it locked down might make them feel really unwelcome here.

Blue Velvet
Nov 11, 2008, 10:54 AM
... I suppose I am reluctant to blow the whistle...

Well, in that case, it's your forehead that's getting sore, not mine. :D

IJ Reilly
Nov 11, 2008, 11:25 AM
Well, in that case, it's your forehead that's getting sore, not mine. :D

Better me slapping my forehead than someone else doing it.

rhett7660
Nov 11, 2008, 04:39 PM
Better me slapping my forehead than someone else doing it.

I don't know about that.. depends.... wait we are talking about foreheads... never mind move along! :D

Phat_Pat
Nov 11, 2008, 05:10 PM
I don't know about that.. depends.... wait we are talking about foreheads... never mind move along! :D


Hey now! feel like i could use a shower now.:eek:

IJ Reilly
Nov 11, 2008, 05:18 PM
I had nothing to do with this. I deny all responsibility.

Gray-Wolf
Nov 12, 2008, 06:22 PM
You folks have been hanging round each other too much. Need some fresh air. :D

Gaelic2
Nov 15, 2008, 11:01 AM
Regarding "Newbies" asking such stupid questions. Newbies, by definition are new! They are trying to get information in the only way they know. Once they realize they can search for threads, they usually do so. I have garnered a lot of info here that I wanted from kind, helpful people. I have also been ridiculed by some arrogant twits but I overlooked these posts due to their obvious age and lack of maturity. We've all been there while growing up. I have had Apples since 1981 and a myriad of Macs over a period of 27 years which is more than many of you have lived. I still enjoy hearing about new methods that all of you so generously post as well as your contagious enthusiasm. This is a wonderful forum I visit every day!:D

rdowns
Nov 15, 2008, 12:49 PM
I have had Apples since 1981 and a myriad of Macs over a period of 27 years which is more than many of you have lived.

Some may regard that comment as arrogant and twit-like.

Gray-Wolf
Nov 15, 2008, 03:16 PM
Some may regard that comment as arrogant and twit-like.


You didn't finish quoting the rest of his comment. :rolleyes:

Schtumple
Nov 16, 2008, 06:58 AM
You didn't finish quoting the rest of his comment. :rolleyes:

CENSORSHIP cannot be used to show what IS right from what is wrong and as a result is not very accurate or GOOD at portraying a truthful message

kabunaru
Nov 17, 2008, 04:16 PM
I like all people here. I have no problem with anybody. I did have a problem with a couple members in the past but I let that go and respect thy neighbour is what I follow.

Schtumple
Nov 18, 2008, 11:48 AM
I've found members who are around the "regular - 6502" post range seem to be very bashful of each other, just looked around one thread and loads of people are having ago at each other, all in that post range, seemed a little strange...

Although I'm not by any means saying that all the users with bad attitudes have that post count range, it would seem that they tend to get banned before they can get a higher post count...

marbles
Nov 18, 2008, 12:05 PM
Hi , newish member here , I'd like to say what a great place this is for the most part , very informative etc etc .

After a day of being new to the internet , struggling around I found this place and was great full I did as this site has helped my knowledge increase a massive amount .It took me an age to find my way around properly , I suppose what I'm trying to say is for new folks like myself , it would be a really good idea to have some info/ links etc flash up on screen the first few times logging in , directing new users to the various & very helpful basic Mac info & threads/guides that are available here .

May seem such an easy thing to find these threads/guides to you experienced guys but I can tell you it took me a week or two at least , now I'm not the brightest torch in the dark but I'm not stupid either !.

A little nudge in the right direction would have saved me a good amount of time and although I personally did search from the beginning ,I believe that something like I suggest could save you guys the headache of having the same thread pop up over and over and over



cheers



rj


EDIT , Sorry I almost forgot , in answer to the initial question maybe some people are just not very good at expressing themselves using words on a screen and might be really nice in 'real life'.

Dejavu
Nov 18, 2008, 12:25 PM
You didn't finish quoting the rest of his comment. :rolleyes:

Yep. :D myopic cherry picking of quotes in itself can be considered twit-like.