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tjwett
Jun 2, 2002, 08:09 PM
Okay we have the iBook and the Powerbook. The iMac and the PowerMac. And the iPod. Perhaps there will one day be a PowerPod to go with it?. It could be a PDA type machine with a nice screen, perhaps running some version of OSX. Maybe a little larger with an all metal look. 10 or 20 gig HD, with all the MP3 capabilities of the iPod plus a whole lot more features that you would find in a fancy PDA or mini PC. Maybe even a G3 since they run so cool. Just a thought. The iPod is the only "i" unit that does not have a "power" cousin. Possible?



Tomasz
Jun 2, 2002, 08:57 PM
That would be quite interesting. Although would they still use a G3, if it uses OSX? Or would the system be OSX at all?

hobie
Jun 2, 2002, 08:59 PM
interesting idea..., at least it would fit into the "iMac / PowerMac" - scheme.

An iPod + PDA capabilities... now that would really rock!

Skandranon
Jun 2, 2002, 09:29 PM
Yeah, and let's throw in an ePod to match, huh... I don't expect Apple to be THAT predictable, fellas.

And if they turn out to be, I'd like to ask for a suite of PowerApps to follow up with the supposed product infastructure... PowerTunes, PowerMovie, PowerDVD...

hehe... PowerPhoto --- Apple's answer to Photoshop?

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

SilvorX
Jun 2, 2002, 09:34 PM
it'dd be cool, n it could have a touch screen so u could use one of those fancy pens (or your finger) to do stuff on it

tjwett
Jun 2, 2002, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by Skandranon
Yeah, and let's throw in an ePod to match, huh... I don't expect Apple to be THAT predictable, fellas.

And if they turn out to be, I'd like to ask for a suite of PowerApps to follow up with the supposed product infastructure... PowerTunes, PowerMovie, PowerDVD...

hehe... PowerPhoto --- Apple's answer to Photoshop?

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

they sort of do this already...with iDVD/DVD Studio Pro, iMovie/Final Cut Pro. i'm not counting on this to happen. i just think it would be one possible way for them to go if they ever did launch a PDA or similar.

TiMacLover
Jun 3, 2002, 01:35 AM
Here is a company that Sculley is apart of....
http://presenter.com/prod_mobile_conference.html

Now this is a iConferencing application for mobiles and desktops, do you think Apple could have a PDA/new "i" app? hmm...

iwantanewmac
Jun 3, 2002, 04:54 AM
Did some1 said PDA?

eyelikeart
Jun 3, 2002, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by iwantanewmac
Did some1 said PDA?

oh god...here we go again...:rolleyes:

I do have to say this though...I absolutely love how Mac users are always pushing the envelope...there is definitely something to say for persistance...he he he ;)

sprescott1974
Jun 3, 2002, 05:16 PM
i hate to say it, but no one has made a PDA or handheld computer that is up to speed with current available technology. It just doesn't make sense. Here is what I would really love and it isn't much:

The style of the new Sony Handheld with the flip around screen and hidden keyboard. With color screen, no built in camera.

Inkwell handwriting recognition, the Newton did it best.

Integrated wireless internet access through whichever ISP you want. I don't need my PDA to be my cellphone or vice-versa. I just want to be able to check my email and AIM on my handheld whenever neccessary.

OSX compatibility. Easy syncing with Mac apps not M$ apps.

And this could all be in a low end model. It doesn't need a camera or an mp3 player. though being able to watch a short film or look at pictures would be great, but that is software moreso then hardware.

If someone made a device like this that had ease of use, the handheld market would not be in such a slump. But no one really is at this point. There is not one standard device that has all the basic features anyone would want.

Apple is really missing the boat here.

iwantanewmac
Jun 3, 2002, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by eyelikeart


oh god...here we go again...:rolleyes:

I do have to say this though...I absolutely love how Mac users are always pushing the envelope...there is definitely something to say for persistance...he he he ;)



I knew you would react :)

Why do so many people want that PDA anyway? I don't get it.
Does every1 use it to fiddle around during lunch break.. or look on it when lunch break starts?
I have a VERY busy schedule but I can perfectly do without 1. I think it's a complete waste of money and time.

sprescott1974
Jun 3, 2002, 05:43 PM
some of us are not so great at orgainizing our day. and some of us are are the run a bit too much to use our laptop to check our email all day so we need somethign to help us with those things.

mr.w
Jun 3, 2002, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by iwantanewmac




I knew you would react :)

Why do so many people want that PDA anyway? I don't get it.
Does every1 use it to fiddle around during lunch break.. or look on it when lunch break starts?
I have a VERY busy schedule but I can perfectly do without 1. I think it's a complete waste of money and time.

that's exactly why i want a pda, i want something to fiddle around with. and there are a lot of people out there that would do the same.

power, portability, looks, why wouldn't you want one

Quark
Jun 3, 2002, 07:57 PM
PowerPod is a registered trademark and a separate product, completely unrelated to Apple.

But... go ahead and type in www.ipod2.com and see what happens... hmmmm...

Quark

sprescott1974
Jun 3, 2002, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by mr.w


that's exactly why i want a pda, i want something to fiddle around with. and there are a lot of people out there that would do the same.

power, portability, looks, why wouldn't you want one


my point exactly. unfortunately there isn't anything on the market right now that makes me feel like i've got to have it. and i really, really want one. so come on already steve.

MasterX (OSiX)
Jun 3, 2002, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by Quark
PowerPod is a registered trademark and a separate product, completely unrelated to Apple.

But... go ahead and type in www.ipod2.com and see what happens... hmmmm...

Quark

Another infamous apple DNS listing.

Seriously this PowerPod seems like the most reasonable thing in a LONG time about a 'PDA'. I mean a web tablet obviously doesn't fit in anywhere. I think the iMac would get a touch screen if anything like that ever happens. The PDA doesn't seem uber logical either. The PowerPod does. But i think we're overshooting it here. It needs to get back to the basics:

Imagine the PowerPod as a device slightly bigger than an iPod, with the same wheel and buttons, then a wireless keyboard for when you actually need to type.
iApps work with the PowerPod. Run iTunes and sync your music onto it's onboard 10GB+ HD. Run iPhoto and copy over an album to run slideshows, run iDVD and save super-compressed Mini-DVDs onto the PowerPod. Mac OS X would be updated with Ink, which would also handle hot syncing of text. Address Book would handle your addresses DIRECTLY (none of this AppleScript junk). Run Mail to put your mail onto it and read it later. Run IE and copy over any web site you want onto the PowerPod. Run iChat to hot-sync your buddy list to the PowerPod (iChat for the PowerPod? Who knows).

As for the OS the PowerPod would not be capable of a complex vector based API like Quartz. Instead the PowerPod would be roughly based off PalmOS 5, with full audio and video playback features. The PowerPod would function as a MP3 player seperatly, running completly simmilar to the iPod, less the address book and language options (which would be in the regular PDA part). Then add some utility for monitoring your Xserve farm and it's a best seller. Update HD and CPU and repeat. :)

MasterX (OSiX)
Jun 3, 2002, 08:18 PM
The OS would LOOK like OSX for those who care. Also the thing would be able to record and MAYBE even have input via voice command (PowerVoice thanks to ViaVoice?), get rid of that crap called Graffitie

Oh yeah cost, say $599. Around 10GB, 30% larger than iPod, medium res LCD (bigger than iPod's by a lot), all apps instaleld for hotsyncing to iApps and OSX. Records your voice, plays MP3s, organizes your life.

I want one already...

sprescott1974
Jun 3, 2002, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by MasterX (OSiX)
The OS would LOOK like OSX for those who care. Also the thing would be able to record and MAYBE even have input via voice command (PowerVoice thanks to ViaVoice?), get rid of that crap called Graffitie

Oh yeah cost, say $599. Around 10GB, 30% larger than iPod, medium res LCD (bigger than iPod's by a lot), all apps instaleld for hotsyncing to iApps and OSX. Records your voice, plays MP3s, organizes your life.

I want one already...


you forgot wireless internet connectivity through airport and a wireless modem. you have to be able to use iChat on this thing as Instant Messengers are going to be more a part of the corporate world as technology moves forward.

MasterX (OSiX)
Jun 3, 2002, 08:31 PM
Maybe Apple could mooch Springboard from Handspring. iChat Video anyone? (Yeah right, well maybe if the PowerPod is a 350-500Mhz ArmVengance processor)

Airport and Bluetooth is practically guaranteed on an Apple PDA, then again the iPod had neither so i guess i cant be so sure. OK revised: 'The Apple PDA *should* have Airport [dual band] AND Bluetooth". One for HotSync, one for Internet. Then again it'd also need an antanae for out-of home internet and FireWire to keep PC users away. haha :)

sprescott1974
Jun 3, 2002, 08:36 PM
it can be done!

so it is written
so it shall be

MasterX (OSiX)
Jun 3, 2002, 08:44 PM
This PDA stuff is nonsence, i say we form a coalition to buy a number of crappy PocketPCs and rewirite the OS and everything else. Then we force Apple to help us support it as a new emerging PDA standard. Get out Aqua and iApps on....

In other words we make an iWalk that would actually work. Who's with me?!

sprescott1974
Jun 3, 2002, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by MasterX (OSiX)
This PDA stuff is nonsence, i say we form a coalition to buy a number of crappy PocketPCs and rewirite the OS and everything else. Then we force Apple to help us support it as a new emerging PDA standard. Get out Aqua and iApps on....

In other words we make an iWalk that would actually work. Who's with me?!

if i knew how i would. i'll buy the first one though.

MasterX (OSiX)
Jun 3, 2002, 08:54 PM
This is the GameBoy afterburner all over again. (http://www.tritonlabs.com/ for those who don't understand)

Royal Pineapple
Jun 5, 2002, 01:27 AM
Originally posted by Skandranon


And if they turn out to be, I'd like to ask for a suite of PowerApps to follow up with the supposed product infastructure... PowerTunes, PowerMovie, PowerDVD...

hehe... PowerPhoto --- Apple's answer to Photoshop?

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
final cut pro is sorta a PowerMovie:D :D :D :D :D

Royal Pineapple
Jun 5, 2002, 01:32 AM
Originally posted by sprescott1974

The style of the new Sony Handheld with the flip around screen and hidden keyboard. With color screen, no built in camera.

i thought the new sony had a camera

mmmdreg
Jun 5, 2002, 08:42 AM
I always thought of them as iMac/iBook PowerMac/PowerBook rather than the PMac/iMac PBook/iBook you thought..I don't think I even considered that once...

boymerang
Jun 5, 2002, 11:12 AM
cohesion.

power = professional.
i = consumer.
e = education.

is the iBook only capable of surfing porn and writing email? while the powerBook is the full-featured older brother? nope.

so why would an iPod just play MP3s, while your beloved powerPod be able to 3D render, edit movies, and refine the recipe for the LSD batch you kids are obviously cooking up.

if apple comes out with a PDA, it'll have a new name, and it'll be an iName, since it'll be a consumer product, not a professional product. and it _will_ replace the iPod. and if they had any intention of doing it any time soon...they would have released that instead of the iPod.

yeah?
yeah.

sprescott1974
Jun 5, 2002, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by Royal Pineapple

i thought the new sony had a camera

it does but who needs it? what ever would you use a camera on a PDA for?

Mr. Anderson
Jun 5, 2002, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by sprescott1974


it does but who needs it? what ever would you use a camera on a PDA for?

Don't be narrow minded. Even if it wasn't the best camera, it would still be a way to take pictures directly without having another device to connect to it. And if you had a 20 Gig drive, it would be a nice little addition, especially if you could take movies with it too. Potential is huge:D

iwantanewmac
Jun 5, 2002, 03:33 PM
Well if they DO make a device like that, I hope
wait... REALLY hope it will be a bit more durable than the Ipod and not with a crappy 4 month warranty.

sprescott1974
Jun 5, 2002, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by dukestreet


Don't be narrow minded. Even if it wasn't the best camera, it would still be a way to take pictures directly without having another device to connect to it. And if you had a 20 Gig drive, it would be a nice little addition, especially if you could take movies with it too. Potential is huge:D


I understand, but it should be an option not built in. Price is always a factor and I would rather have a really powerful handheld computer at a good price then somethign with a lot of extra frills that in the long run I may not need.

Mr. Anderson
Jun 5, 2002, 04:35 PM
Good point. And Apple would make more money by having more than one option available, digital still camera, digital video camera, microphone, etc., all which could be purchased separately.

There is a lot of potential, I just hope some day it all happens. Just the thought of pocket computer sounds cool.:D

boymerang
Jun 6, 2002, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by dukestreet
Good point. And Apple would make more money by having more than one option available, digital still camera, digital video camera, microphone, etc., all which could be purchased separately.

apple would also spend tons more money bringing to market three seperate technologies that have to interact with an entirely new concept in computing. for the price point they'd have to meet to make this an option for people, they'd have to sell a whole ton of units, just to break even :) new technology is expensive - why else do you think you only see new apple peripherials trickle into the market (and why else do you think the nearly left that market entirely a few years back)...

just something to consider.