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gemio17
Feb 3, 2004, 02:37 PM
Michael Jackson's got 7 macs that were all confiscated by the po' po', just thought
it was an interesting item..

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/mjreturn1.html



Hodapp
Feb 3, 2004, 02:51 PM
Hope he was running File Vault :)

Sun Baked
Feb 3, 2004, 02:55 PM
Wasn't quite the market iMovie was intended for. http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?postid=158571

Hodapp
Feb 3, 2004, 03:01 PM
Hmm... this brings up an interesting legal question regarding pleading the 5th, retrieving passwords, and file vault. Say for example the feds want to see the content of his drives, but he's running file vault, has everything encrypted. Would giving up his passwords would be self-incriminating, and therefore would he have to do it?

And if so, what if he 'forgot' his passwords, could he be charged with tampering with evidence, obstruction of justice, or something else?

Hmm...

beefcake
Feb 3, 2004, 03:13 PM
I assume the issues about the 5th and privacy that were brought up existed long before File Vault, so I'm going to take a guess that the feds have a way in.

sonofslim
Feb 3, 2004, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by io_burn
Would giving up his passwords would be self-incriminating, and therefore would he have to do it?

if it was deemed to be a self-incriminating act, he wouldn't have to do it, although i don't know if there's a legal precedent in terms of unencrypting data. i suspect all data from confiscated computers is taken without permission or password from their owners; encryption just makes it harder to do so.

incidentally, have you seen the thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=57871) about macs and the RCMP?

virividox
Feb 3, 2004, 03:38 PM
poor jacko i wonder...i wonder wat was on his iphoto and imovie libraries

gemio17
Feb 3, 2004, 03:48 PM
makes you kinda sad huh?? those poor macs...
I wonder if they operate on OS Jesus Juice :D

MoparShaha
Feb 3, 2004, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by beefcake
I assume the issues about the 5th and privacy that were brought up existed long before File Vault, so I'm going to take a guess that the feds have a way in. So do you think there is some "master password" Apple has that would unlock any FileVault system? My understanding is that once you've locked it -- thats it. Only your own password can get you back in.

Hodapp
Feb 3, 2004, 03:55 PM
The conspiracy theorist in me says there IS a master password, but probably few people besides Steve Jobs know it. :)

redAPPLE
Feb 3, 2004, 04:18 PM
hmm... when did Apple start using the slogan "think different"?

Apple might have misled jacko on that slogan... maybe he read it saying, "look different"...

mgargan1
Feb 3, 2004, 09:09 PM
hmm... the link's not working correctly... anyone else having issues?

Links
Feb 3, 2004, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by mgargan1
hmm... the link's not working correctly... anyone else having issues?
This is the correct link:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/mjreturn1.html
There was an extra "/" in the first posted link.

G4scott
Feb 3, 2004, 10:59 PM
Apple doesn't have a way into folders encrypted with FileVaule, or at least I hope they don't. That's the whole point. Make it so that the only way in is with your password or master password, because a god password is a major security hole... Someone just has to figure out one password, and everyone's filevault's are screwed...

Powerbook G5
Feb 3, 2004, 11:46 PM
I doubt there is a master password. Steve said himself that if you lose the password, you're essentially screwed. Besides, wouldn't someone at Apple have to have access to your computer to use it, anyway? It just sounds like some people watch way too much X-Files.

themadchemist
Feb 4, 2004, 12:39 AM
Originally posted by MoparShaha
So do you think there is some "master password" Apple has that would unlock any FileVault system? My understanding is that once you've locked it -- thats it. Only your own password can get you back in.

With the right amount of time, technology, and expertise, every lock can be unlocked. No master password is necessary.

G5orbust
Feb 4, 2004, 12:45 AM
Im willing to bet there isnt a master password, but instead a built in loop hole only Apple knows about so that, if need be, systems can be decrypted. After all, as all programmers know, there are always special loop holes and nuiances of a program only the creator knows about that cant be seen or retrieved through any means besides the one the programmer allowed at the beginning.

Originally posted by themadchemist
With the right amount of time, technology, and expertise, every lock can be unlocked. No master password is necessary.

Yeah, but as Apple said, it would take trillions of years to break the 512- bit encryption. By the time they would get it, MJ would be in dire need of a face lift...

alset
Feb 4, 2004, 08:35 AM
Even if there is a master password, Apple would never reveal that they added a backdoor because they would receive bad press. It's to their advantage to promote the idea that your data is 100% secure.

Dan

iAlan
Feb 4, 2004, 08:59 AM
I am just happy it wasn't Micheal's breast on TV....

Fabrix2003
Feb 5, 2004, 03:43 AM
nice article shame about micheals compexion maybe next he wants to look more like a mac? time for a change :)

shows you what the rich own, aprt from bad habits.