NEW iMACS ON NOVEMBER!

[crunch2010]

:apple:

[NyMetsFan08]

I'm just pretty sure this is the date of the new release. I think there will be some hardware upgrades, such as:


CPU

Montevina (Centrino 2) platform.
Low-end: Core 2 Duo 2.8GHz.
High-end: Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz or Core 2 Extreme Quad-Core 2.53GHz.


GPU

Low-end: NVIDIA GeForce 9400M (256MB GDDR3).
High-end: NVIDIA GeForce 9400M + 9600M GT (256MB or 512MB GDDR3).


RAM

Maximum of 8GB of RAM memory (SDRAM DDR3 at 1.066 MHz).


PORTS

Mini DisplayPort.


There will be no design upgrades as the design is just perfect (or at least for me ;)), and if so, they would make the iMac thinner.

NOTE: This is just my prediction date and specs of the new iMacs. Although, I think they are extremely accurate.

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Simply :apple:
Way to go to copy me dude. Too bad I predicted it first.

[crunch2010]

Way to go to copy me dude. Too bad I predicted it first.

Just coincidence, mate. Sorry if this annoyed you.

[NyMetsFan08]

Just coincidence, mate. Sorry if this annoyed you.
It's cool I don't mind.

[NyMetsFan08]

Here is the quick pattern: Sept. 9th (2nd Week) iPod Update, Oct.14th (2nd Week) Macbook Update, and Now Nov. 11th (2nd Week) iMac Update.

[goobimama]

Unless they give you four slots, 8GB is impossible right now. Each 4GB dimm costs $2k or so. Otherwise the predictions seem about right (except for that insanely fast 'low end' processor)

[DHagan4755]

You can rest assured that there will not be any new Apple news or hardware on November 11th. November 11th is Veterans' Day, a national holiday.

[bigjnyc]

You can rest assured that there will not be any new Apple news or hardware on November 11th. November 11th is Veterans' Day, a national holiday.

ha ha :D

[NyMetsFan08]

You can rest assured that there will not be any new Apple news or hardware on November 11th. November 11th is Veterans' Day, a national holiday.
oops I feel so dumb now haha wow I can't believe I forgot that. Wow now it's easy Nov 18th New iMacs !!! Nov 4th- Election Day Nov 11th- Veteran's Day.

[queshy]

LED backlit displays across the board?

[NyMetsFan08]

LED backlit displays across the board?
take a look here at my new thread I revised it. http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=589172

[brad.c]

Care to make an extremely accurate prediction on firewire inclusion? :rolleyes:

[AlexH]

Quad core iMac w/8GB of RAM? Nice. I can live with that. :cool:

[mathcolo]

Care to make an extremely accurate prediction on firewire inclusion? :rolleyes:

I don't think Apple will drop FireWire from the iMacs. Tons of iMacs are still use in video editing and education environments. Apple couldn't afford to drop it. MacBooks... maybe Apple had a reason. iMacs? Too beneficial.

[stevetim]

Predictions predictions....I'd rather predict lottery numbers.

[Aea]

Unless they give you four slots, 8GB is impossible right now. Each 4GB dimm costs $2k or so. Otherwise the predictions seem about right (except for that insanely fast 'low end' processor)

I don't believe that iMacs use FB-DIMMS and the poster mentioned SDRAM DDR3. I can't find them in 4GB sizes on Newegg though, so I'll take your word here. I'm pretty sure they'd put in two more slots though :)

[goobimama]

They will definitely not drop Firewire in the iMac. Cause professionals are known to use iMacs instead of the Mac Pro (they seriously don't expect people to buy Mac Pros because of FW). They may however drop it in the 20" model (for some stupid reason).

As for the 8GB, definitely not happening. They will have to redesign the insides of the thing to fit in the extra two slots. Although, the chipset et al does support 8GB, so Snow Leopard might just enable it software wise.

[BRETTrobison]

I am really excited about these. They need an update. I am assuming they will ship around the same time the new Apple Displays ship.

[yoyo5280]

you better bloody well be right. My dad says he will buy the updated ones. I can't wait!

[kenned]

It's funny that you say it'll have the centrino 2 chipset while you're predicting 9400M at the same time. Having 2 chipsets sure would be smart :rolleyes:

[iMJustAGuy]

I'm just pretty sure this is the date of the new release. I think there will be some hardware upgrades, such as:


CPU

Montevina (Centrino 2) platform.
Low-end: Core 2 Duo 2.8GHz.
High-end: Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz or Core 2 Extreme Quad-Core 2.53GHz.


GPU

Low-end: NVIDIA GeForce 9400M (256MB GDDR3).
High-end: NVIDIA GeForce 9400M + 9600M GT (256MB or 512MB GDDR3).


RAM

Maximum of 8GB of RAM memory (SDRAM DDR3 at 1.066 MHz).


PORTS

Mini DisplayPort.


There will be no design upgrades as the design is just perfect (or at least for me ;)), and if so, they would make the iMac thinner.

NOTE: This is just my prediction date and specs of the new iMacs. Although, I think they are extremely accurate.

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Simply :apple:

Steve..???

[crunch2010]

It's funny that you say it'll have the centrino 2 chipset while you're predicting 9400M at the same time. Having 2 chipsets sure would be smart :rolleyes:

9400M is an NVIDIA graphics card.
Intel Centrino 2 is a processor.
Montevina is the chipset.

Care to make an extremely accurate prediction on firewire inclusion? :rolleyes:

There's firewire (check my NOTE 2).

[nick9191]

They just added Firewire 800 on the alu iMac, they wont remove it. The most they will do is drop Firewire 400.

[crunch2010]

They will definitely not drop Firewire in the iMac. Cause professionals are known to use iMacs instead of the Mac Pro (they seriously don't expect people to buy Mac Pros because of FW). They may however drop it in the 20" model (for some stupid reason).

As for the 8GB, definitely not happening. They will have to redesign the insides of the thing to fit in the extra two slots. Although, the chipset et al does support 8GB, so Snow Leopard might just enable it software wise.

There's firewire (check my NOTE 2).

[crunch2010]

They just added Firewire 800 on the alu iMac, they wont remove it. The most they will do is drop Firewire 400.

There's firewire (check my NOTE 2).

oops I feel so dumb now haha wow I can't believe I forgot that. Wow now it's easy Nov 18th New iMacs !!! Nov 4th- Election Day Nov 11th- Veteran's Day.

Oh god, that's true, this happens to me because I'm not American. I just predicted the date on a tuesday somewhere in the middle of November.

Care to make an extremely accurate prediction on firewire inclusion? :rolleyes:

There's firewire (check my NOTE 2).

[dannyboxer]

Can you predict some prices. How much more expensive will they be?

[nsbio]

They will definitely not drop Firewire in the iMac. Cause professionals are known to use iMacs instead of the Mac Pro

SJ no longer seems to give a rat's a%% about professionals. Apple is now actively expanding their market, and for that they are putting all sorts of shine, gloss, and bling in their computers, since most consumers want just that.

[crunch2010]

Can you predict some prices. How much more expensive will they be?

I really can't predict prices, because with apple you never know, I'm guessing it will happen like with macbooks: low-end would have a similar price, while high end will increase around 200$. Just a guess.

[iPave]

Why would they put two gpus to iMac? To save battery???

[bolen]

At the moment there's no reason to put two GPU's in the iMac. Also it's pretty bad if they go from 8800GS to 9600M GT as it's slower or just equal in performance. I would like to see a HD4850. I think they'll stick nVidia though.

Maybe they'll just put nVidias renamed 8800GT (9800GT) in there and say its x% faster. :rolleyes:

A GTX 260 would've been nice.

[costabunny]

Why would they put two gpus to iMac? To save battery???

Nooo to reduce power and heat.. The world is starting to see desktops as power hungry too (lower power & heat = lover running carbon footprint) :) think of the Trees, man :S

[fohawk17]

this excites me. i really think that apple made a mistake dropping firewire from the macbook. so if they drop it from this one it will kill. but as previously stated, they will at most probibly drop firewire 400

[Malivar]

Firewire 1600 anyone? ;)

Nah seriously, I'm really excited for these updates. I hope you're right, even though I doubt that the lower end iMac will be configured standard with a 2.8Ghz CPU.

[Willis]

9400M is an NVIDIA graphics card.
Intel Centrino 2 is a processor.
Montevina is the chipset.

Kinda..

the 9400M is a nVidia integrated graphics on a nVidia chipset.
It isnt Montevina, thats Intels chipset which would have X1300

Hense why nVidia are the ones confirming the chipsets accept 8GB of ram and not Intel :o

[bolen]

9400M is an NVIDIA graphics card.
Intel Centrino 2 is a processor.
Montevina is the chipset.

naah, not really.

9400M is a graphics card.. but also a chipset. 2in1. =) MCP79+9400M G
Intel Centrino 2 is not a processor. It's the name of Intel's certified mobile platform. Centrino 2 = Intel CPU, Intel Chipset, Intel Wifi
Montevina was the codename for Centrino 2. Montevina == Centrino 2
The codename Montevina refers to the fifth-generation Centrino platform, now formally named Centrino 2 to avoid confusion with previous Centrino platforms. Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrino#Montevina_platform_.282008.29)


The Processors name is Intel Core 2 (Duo/Quad), the current processor codename is Penryn.
Chipsets used in Centrino2/Montevina =GL40, GS45, GM45, GM47 or PM45 northbridges together with a ICH9M southbridge

As a side note: Apple never uses the whole Centrino platform and can therefore not call their computers Centrino2/Montevina computers. For example, they don't use the Intel Wifi card.

Peace out! :)

[chilipie]

At the moment there's no reason to put two GPU's in the iMac.

There never will be a reason until iMacs can run on battery power.

[bolen]

There never will be a reason until iMacs can run on battery power.

If Apple and nVidia adds support for Hybrid SLI there's a reason.. a quite good reason.

[kobefan234]

No glossy screen only matte! lol

I can dreAM cant I?:D

[Chaos123x]

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/34/l_80cdaa5a342f48e7a1009dfa0400c871.jpg

What's wrong with this picture?

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/imac1_wideweb__470x316,2.jpg

[cherry su]

I would like to see at least 9800M GTS in the iMacs

http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_9800m_gts.html

9800GT or 9800GTX would be better!

[crunch2010]

naah, not really.

9400M is a graphics card.. but also a chipset. 2in1. =) MCP79+9400M G
Intel Centrino 2 is not a processor. It's the name of Intel's certified mobile platform. Centrino 2 = Intel CPU, Intel Chipset, Intel Wifi
Montevina was the codename for Centrino 2. Montevina == Centrino 2
Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrino#Montevina_platform_.282008.29)


The Processors name is Intel Core 2 (Duo/Quad), the current processor codename is Penryn.
Chipsets used in Centrino2/Montevina =GL40, GS45, GM45, GM47 or PM45 northbridges together with a ICH9M southbridge

As a side note: Apple never uses the whole Centrino platform and can therefore not call their computers Centrino2/Montevina computers. For example, they don't use the Intel Wifi card.

Peace out! :)

Yeah, and the iMac would include an early Montevina chipset with the Centrino 2 chipset.
Anyway, the thing is that Apple have their own "special chipsets" in some sort of way.

[Francois22]

i´m really curious about the new iMacs...
will return finally back to this beautiful computer, after i returned to windows for some months...it´s horrible...

i guess the update features will be minimal,... nvidia graphic, probably a better cpu, but that´s it,...probably they sink the price to 50-99 $...

[ColinEC]

I would like to see at least 9800M GTS in the iMacs

http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_9800m_gts.html

9800GT or 9800GTX would be better!

Me too.

I really wish Apple would put a top-of-the-line mobile graphics chipset from NVIDIA in the iMacs.

Also, to the original posters, there's no need for a 9400M + 9600M. The 9400M in the laptops is there to save battery power, which is something the iMacs don't need.

[crunch2010]

Me too.

I really wish Apple would put a top-of-the-line mobile graphics chipset from NVIDIA in the iMacs.

Also, to the original posters, there's no need for a 9400M + 9600M. The 9400M in the laptops is there to save battery power, which is something the iMacs don't need.

It's a very good option for energy saving against global warming. Remember Apple is getting greener. :p

[joelw135]

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/34/l_80cdaa5a342f48e7a1009dfa0400c871.jpg

What's wrong with this picture?

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/imac1_wideweb__470x316,2.jpg

Five USB and no Firewire!

[nyprospect]

Will these new imacs overheat as well? I'm apologize to the op for highjacking.

[Syros]

hey, how about the led backlit display, isn't apple greener than before??

[Syros]

I'm just pretty sure this is the month of the new release. I think there will be some hardware upgrades, such as:


CPU

Montevina (Centrino 2) platform.
Low-end: Core 2 Duo 2.8GHz.
High-end: Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz or Core 2 Extreme Quad-Core 2.53GHz.


GPU

Low-end: NVIDIA GeForce 9400M (256MB GDDR3).
High-end: NVIDIA GeForce 9400M + 9600M GT (256MB or 512MB GDDR3).


Simply :apple:

there is a mistake,if they use Montevina (Centrino 2) platform
there wont be NV GPU chipset, cos Montevina (Centrino 2) platform includes the N/S chipsets, so there wont be 9400+9600M GT in the High end configs either

sorry for my en

[ditzy]

I can't really see them putting 9400m in the imacs. As they are not as powerful as the graphics card already in the imac, and there is no need to try and preserve battery life in the imac. There is no point to the 9400m at all in the imac.

[jameskohn]

Seems like there is at least a reasonable possibility of L.E.D. displays in the new iMacs. Is there a visible difference, for example, between Apple's new 24" LED display and the display on the current 24" iMac?

Quad core is another possibility people keep raising. Do we really think the high end will have quad core, or are we still an iteration or two away from that in the iMac?

[Dorfdad]

Title of this thread is misleading it should say MY predictions the way its worded makes it sound like you have final info..

My take on that would be pretty blah as well they need a much higher speed boost and better video card options as well

The changes are so minimal since I got my Imac in 2006 yes different bus speeds etc but not much that makes me need to upgrade.

The standard video card now needs to be a 512 and an upgraded to the 768's otherwise Im not even moving until its worth the cash..

[Smittay717]

yeah this title is kind of confusing

i got a bum 24 inch iMac, and have to return it and i almost made the mistake of asking the guy about the new ones in November... any other proof to this?

[iMacmatician]

I can't really see them putting 9400m in the imacs. As they are not as powerful as the graphics card already in the imac, and there is no need to try and preserve battery life in the imac. There is no point to the 9400m at all in the imac.Well the low-end iMac does have a HD 2400 now...

Seems like there is at least a reasonable possibility of L.E.D. displays in the new iMacs. Agreed.

Quad core is another possibility people keep raising. Do we really think the high end will have quad core, or are we still an iteration or two away from that in the iMac?Technically it's possible. But I've looked at the CPU speeds in the Mac Pro and they've never had a lower-clocked quad-core with higher-clocked quad-cores. So I'd probably say no to quad-core until 2010 (when they get cheap enough for the iMac to go all quad-core), although I'd like it if they came earlier. Same with the MacBook Pro. Dual-cores for another two years or so.

[NRose8989]

Some of you sure like to dream but the iMac is made from mostly mobile parts i.e. the processor... Quad core would be nice but let's be realistic here, quad core mobile processors won't come to market until Nehalem, which is supposedly due to be released in late 2009/2010.

[Smittay717]

wouldnt it kind of be late to do this RIGHT BEFORE christmas and the holidays?

(unless this is their way to boost sales last minute)

i'm in sales and we usually let people know way in advance :)

[m1stake]

Some of you sure like to dream but the iMac is made from mostly mobile parts i.e. the processor... Quad core would be nice but let's be realistic here, quad core mobile processors won't come to market until Nehalem, which is supposedly due to be released in late 2009/2010.

Except for that part where the penryn refresh quads start appearing in stuff in January.

[NRose8989]

Except for that part where the penryn refresh quads start appearing in stuff in January.

prove it, then I'll eat some crow.

[spcdust]

What do we reckon to the chances of the Nehalem chips being introduced to the iMac range around August/September 2009 - or do we reckon it will be later in the year?

spcdust

[gkarris]

Five USB and no Firewire!

I was about to say that it has 1 too many USB 3.0 ports... :eek:

I want to predict....

I say the iMacs will stay the same, but they'll introduce a $999 model - 2.0 GHz, 1 Gig RAM, 160 Gig HD, X4500 IGA.

I think they'll actually do a newer version in the Spring around graduation time.

[iMacmatician]

Some of you sure like to dream but the iMac is made from mostly mobile parts i.e. the processor... Quad core would be nice but let's be realistic here, quad core mobile processors won't come to market until Nehalem, which is supposedly due to be released in late 2009/2010.Except that Penryn quads (http://www.intel.com/products/processor/core2xe/mobile/index.htm) are already here or will come very soon.

prove it, then I'll eat some crow.Prove that Nehalem will bring the first quad-core mobile CPUs. The QX9300 is already here (http://refgadget.blogspot.com/2008/10/toshiba-qosmio-x305-q708-gaming-laptop.html), so you don't have a leg to stand on.

(Side note: 17" 2560*1600? :eek::eek:)

What do we reckon to the chances of the Nehalem chips being introduced to the iMac range around August/September 2009 - or do we reckon it will be later in the year?

spcdustLate 2009 at the earliest, I think.

[thezerox]

As bolen already said, 9600M GT is a downgrade over 8800GS (read: 8800M GTS). So it won't be a 9600M GT. But I think the GPU will be still a mobile one.

[iMacmatician]

As bolen already said, 9600M GT is a downgrade over 8800GS (read: 8800M GTS). So it won't be a 9600M GT. But I think the GPU will be still a mobile one.For the highest-end, yes. But for the next one, the 9800M could be a BTO option. Also it is notable that for the lowest-end iMac, the GPU downgraded from an X1600 to a HD 2400 with the change to aluminum. I wouldn't consider it impossible for the same thing to happen with the high-end (8800M GTS to 9600M GT). Still, I think the *8*0 will stay in the highest model.

[thezerox]

For the highest-end, yes. But for the next one, the 9800M could be a BTO option. Also it is notable that for the lowest-end iMac, the GPU downgraded from an X1600 to a HD 2400 with the change to aluminum. I wouldn't consider it impossible for the same thing to happen with the high-end (8800M GTS to 9600M GT). Still, I think the *8*0 will stay in the highest model.

Thank you for correcting me.

[crunch2010]

Well, besides those predictions I made on the thread, I am 150% sure that iMacs' display will be updated to LED. I mean, isn't that obvious, right?

[mcgowan7]

I'm just pretty sure this is the month of the new release. I think there will be some hardware upgrades, such as:
CPU

Montevina (Centrino 2) platform.
Low-end: Core 2 Duo 2.8GHz.
High-end: Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz or Core 2 Extreme Quad-Core 2.53GHz.
:

I've seen a few different people predict the high end iMac CPU to be 3.06 core2duo Montevina (1066 Front side bus).

How is that different from the CURRENT high end iMac?? Which is also 3.06Ghz and a 1066FSB???
Where's my CPU upgrade?

-Mike

[fohawk17]

i agree with most. faster fsb and larger hard drives. i dot think they will drop firewire. its still the best way to back up to external hard drive.

no quad cores though....... its too soon

[var]

If that is the case I hope they do it soon. i just got a new 24" machine and have a 30 day price guarantee. Money back to add some software would be nice! After two years of rumors I could not wait any longer. I glad I did not. What a machine!:D

[JayLenochiniMac]

I predict that the next iMac will be unibody.

Wait....

[pwnographer]

I would like the new iMac to be straight BLACK, with a silver (or possibly RED) apple in the middle...! That would be DOPE!

If they don't do this in a few weeks, I'd like it to be on the Nehalem version that hopefully comes out in the summer some time :).

Man so much debating going back and forth in between buying a new November iMac or waiting for the Nehalem...AND considering the next generation on MBP's as they might come out in the summer some time too. For now I've got 24inch iMacs to work on in the music lab at school :D

[MattInOz]

You want to get brave on prediction.
New 30" iMac core 2 quad, 2xSATA HD.

along with bumps to the current 20" & 24" but only core 2 duo.
other wise LED backlight, nVidia Chipset and graphics, FW 800, mini displayport all round. Revised back panel with user accessable Sata HD, memory and cardbus or USB2 slot for TV tuner.

The 20" will drop out 9to12months when the next case overhaul happens.
It would fit the usual pattern.

[Sarborg]

Question of mind:

Everyone here is discussing the gfx cards that are going to be in the Nov-imacs, but i was wondering...

I saw on Apples website that the new macbooks gfx card made them run video-editing and games 2.3 X faster... that means if i wait like 18 days i'll be able to buy an imac that runs games e.x. 2.3 times faster than the current one probably ? or won't the upgrade be that big.

I ask cous i want a 24' imac ( i love the screen :D ) but it's very expensive and there are no 24'inch low end imacs - unfortunately :( ..

So i consider buying a "used imac" but - if the november imac is going to be 2.3 x faster then it' won't even be worth buying a computer that is 2.3 times slower for maybe half price ... that's simple math.. will the new imacs be THAT much faster ?


- sarborg

[wackymacky]

if there are really new iMacs comming out in two weeks, why no leaked pics etc released yet, like we would usually see?!

[dannyboxer]

if there are really new iMacs comming out in two weeks, why no leaked pics etc released yet, like we would usually see?!

Because the update is most likely to only going to be a speed bump. No case changes.

[Icaras]

if there are really new iMacs comming out in two weeks, why no leaked pics etc released yet, like we would usually see?!

Yea, there are no design changes for the iMac. No public show event. Internal changes only.

[justmay]

will there be one this time around?

[crunch2010]

I've seen a few different people predict the high end iMac CPU to be 3.06 core2duo Montevina (1066 Front side bus).

How is that different from the CURRENT high end iMac?? Which is also 3.06Ghz and a 1066FSB???
Where's my CPU upgrade?

-Mike

UPDATE: Quad core. Although, now I think about it, it is quite impossible to be like that.

[Jack Flash]

Quad core isn't coming. Also, the 9400M would be a massive step down from the 2600 in the current units.

[NyMetsFan08]

Quad core isn't coming. Also, the 9400M would be a massive step down from the 2600 in the current units.
I think Nov. 10th will be a better chance.

[iMacmatician]

I've seen a few different people predict the high end iMac CPU to be 3.06 core2duo Montevina (1066 Front side bus).

How is that different from the CURRENT high end iMac?? Which is also 3.06Ghz and a 1066FSB???
Where's my CPU upgrade?

-MikeIt's 10 W cooler (45 W vs. 55 W) and probably cheaper, which means the highest-end iMac can have a 3.2 GHz CPU. This also means the CPU speeds would be bumped 133~267 MHz.

Quad core isn't coming. Not this year, and probably not next year either.

Also, the 9400M would be a massive step down from the 2600 in the current units.The lowest-end iMac has a HD 2400.

[bengal85]

Why centrinos why not xeons

[Jurwin]

Why centrinos why not xeons

cuz xeons is not mobile