Obama Assassination Plot Thwarted

[rdowns]

Breaking news on MSNBC.

ATF says it disrupted skinhead plot in Tenn., Ark. to assassinate Obama.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27405681/

[chilipie]

Linky?

[SilentPanda]

The story seems to be at the "we're the first to report it because we put a headline on msnbc.com but we haven't written an article yet" mode.

In a sad sort of way an Obama win might create Secret Service jobs... ...

Edit: Oh here's a more informative link now...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27405681/

It sounds like this is "old news" but the files have been opened to the public as of today. The people have already had one court appearance.

[és:]

I bet it's not the only one, thought. I hope they manage to thwart the others, too.

[floyde]

Another link (http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2008/08/25/obama-assassination-plot-police-schedule-press-conference-amid-tv-report/).

*Edit: Oh wait, that's old. Nevermind :o

[és:]

Another link (http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2008/08/25/obama-assassination-plot-police-schedule-press-conference-amid-tv-report/)

That's from the 25th of August.

[Watabou]

This is really messed up. Why don't these people grow up?!

Honestly though, I have been fearing this, Obama has a really huge threat and even more after he gets elected to office.

hopefully the secret service stops all assasination attempts.

[deriko100]

What is wrong with people obamas a good man and they want him dead, sad.

[és:]

hopefully the secret service stops all assasination attempts.

As callous as this might sound, I hope that any attempt on Obama's life results in a secret service agent shooting the would be assassin, live and in HD, right in the head. This would be a stark warning to any other ********** idiot that wants to try it.

[Watabou]

What is wrong with people obamas a good man and they want him dead, sad.

Yup. That's what's totally wrong. That's what happened to Lincoln, JFK, MLK.

Damn religious racists right wingers and these neo-nazis. I'm ok with expressing religion but assassinations?! They are the people who should be deported, put in Guantanomo or whatever. I'm okay with that. :mad:

[kavika411]

As callous as this might sound, I hope that any attempt on Obama's life results in a secret service agent shooting the would be assassin, live and in HD, right in the head. This would be a stark warning to any other ********** idiot that wants to try it.

I agree. The public's viewing of the killing of a suspect is always a deterent.

[Bosunsfate]

Yup. That's what's totally wrong. That's what happened to Lincoln, JFK, MLK.

Damn religious racists right wingers. I'm ok with expressing religion but assassinations?! They are the people who should be deported, put in Guantanomo or whatever. I'm okay with that. :mad:

Don't forget Robert Kennedy as well.

Just when a great leader in our country rises, somehow the radical right wing in this country tears them down.

[synth3tik]

I like how MSNBC is treating it as it just happened, when in reality they were brought up on charges today. Thiese guys sound like a couple of morons. If they can't even rob a gun store how did they plan to kill anyone.


disgusting bastards.

[freeny]

Don't forget Robert Kennedy as well.

Just when a great leader in our country rises, somehow the radical right wing in this country tears them down.

While Obama is certainly very inspiring and a step in the right direction, he has yet to prove his "greatness"....

[Watabou]

I wouldn't go so far as to call Obama a "great leader" but hey who knows right?

Then these people show up and destroy that hope.

[mkrishnan]

Wow, I'm glad it was thwarted.

This was interesting:

The numbers 88 and 14 are symbolic in the white supremacist community.

I had to look it up (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen_Words). Of course this post will probably make me get made fun of again for defending the idea that the term Bush Doctrine had been used ambiguously to refer to different things at different times. :o

[stevento]

when i first saw this on abc a few minutes ago, i thought this was like some super huge conspiracy. it was really just some skinhead teenagers...........

[Prof.]

I hope they string the guys who tried to do it.:mad:

[leekohler]

when i first saw this on abc a few minutes ago, i thought this was like some super huge conspiracy. it was really just some skinhead teenagers...........

So, it shouldn't be taken seriously?

[Peace]

when i first saw this on abc a few minutes ago, i thought this was like some super huge conspiracy. it was really just some skinhead teenagers...........

So, it shouldn't be taken seriously?

Two skinhead type teenagers killed a lot of innocent people at Columbine.

These wackos should be taken seriously .

[aethelbert]

What is wrong with people obamas a good man and they want him dead, sad.
JFK was probably a nice guy, same with Francis Ferdinand. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that these idiots were probably looking a tad beyond the charisma.

[bradl]

Two skinhead type teenagers killed a lot of innocent people at Columbine.

These wackos should be taken seriously .

While I agree they should be taken seriously, there's a difference between being racially motivated in doing something like this, and being bullied buy various cliques at school to the point where they responded.

Not that I agree with Klebold and company's actions, but just to note there is a difference. They could have been talked down/out of it. People can't change their skin colour.

BL.

[Thomas Veil]

As callous as this might sound, I hope that any attempt on Obama's life results in a secret service agent shooting the would be assassin, live and in HD, right in the head. This would be a stark warning to any other ********** idiot that wants to try it.Do you have any idea how cold-blooded that sounds?

I couldn't agree more.

[Sun Baked]

How many Bush plots have been thwarted?

He's catching up to and 8 year President quick, and he is just running for the job.

Really sad.

[BoyBach]

As callous as this might sound, I hope that any attempt on Obama's life results in a secret service agent shooting the would be assassin, live and in HD, right in the head. This would be a stark warning to any other ********** idiot that wants to try it.


I'd have to disagree. I'd be fearful that such a response would only fuel their paranoia.

[leekohler]

JFK was probably a nice guy, same with Francis Ferdinand. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that these idiots were probably looking a tad beyond the charisma.

Care to mention exactly what they were looking at?

[aethelbert]

Care to mention exactly what they were looking at?
Believe it or not, there are people that disagree with his proposed policies. These morons had a pretty dumb way of expressing their discontent.

[gregdrummeraz]

Although I do believe he will be shot, I didn't expect it to happen so soon.

I am not wanting him to be shot either, despite what people take from my post's and rewriting, or misinterpret, I am not racist. I also definitely think it's redonk that people are wanting to be a supremacist, much less over a race....


Sad stuff ladies and gentlemen.

I wonder if Obama's kids know the danger there father, mother, and them selves have been put in. Poor kids.

[abijnk]

Although I do believe he will be shot, I didn't expect it to happen so soon.

I am not wanting him to be shot either, despite what people take from my post's and rewriting, or misinterpret, I am not racist. I also definitely think it's redonk that people are wanting to be a supremacist, much less over a race....


Sad stuff ladies and gentlemen.

I wonder if Obama's kids know the danger there father, mother, and them selves have been put in. Poor kids.

Michelle Obama has actually addressed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyUsDOeFo24) that.

[Watabou]

Michelle Obama has actually addressed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyUsDOeFo24) that.

That was a pretty nice answer. I liked it. :cool:

[gregdrummeraz]

Good answer, I agree... But what an under-bite lol.

[leekohler]

Believe it or not, there are people that disagree with his proposed policies. These morons had a pretty dumb way of expressing their discontent.

You still didn't answer the question. Didn't really expect you to though.

[abijnk]

Care to mention exactly what they were looking at?

I'll help him out. RACE. That's was it. Not policy issues. Just the fact that he's black.

[Counterfit]

I agree. The public's viewing of the killing of a suspect is always a deterent.
Lee Harvey Oswald was killed in front of a camera, but it didn't stop this:
Don't forget Robert Kennedy as well.

Two skinhead type teenagers killed a lot of innocent people at Columbine.

These wackos should be taken seriously .

The innocent people at Columbine didn't have the Secret Service protecting them.

[it5five]

I doubt this will be the last attempt.

Obama might very well go down in history as the president with the most attempts against his life. We have this one even before the election day. I wouldn't be surprised if there was at least one more before inauguration day

[BoyBach]

Fourteen words that spell racism (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/uselectionroadtrip/2008/oct/28/uselections-obama-racism) - Guardian article with video.

[fivepoint]

Don't forget Robert Kennedy as well.

Just when a great leader in our country rises, somehow the radical right wing in this country tears them down.

Why am I not surprised that someone here tried to turn this into a partisan issue against conservatives/Republicans? Wow.

How can people be so blinded by their own bias? Would you like a list of liberal "terrorists" to be posted here? Heck, we could probably even find some that have "associations" with Mr. Obama. ;)

The difference is... that I KNOW there are sick wackos on all sides, and you seem to think that every "great leader" is a lefty, and every crazy is a "radical right wing" waiting to tear them down.

Very sad.

[geese]

Why am I not surprised that someone here tried to turn this into a partisan issue against conservatives/Republicans? Wow.

How can people be so blinded by their own bias? Would you like a list of liberal "terrorists" to be posted here? Heck, we could probably even find some that have "associations" with Mr. Obama. ;)

The difference is... that I KNOW there are sick wackos on all sides, and you seem to think that every "great leader" is a lefty, and every crazy is a "radical right wing" waiting to tear them down.

Very sad.

White supremacists do tend to have very right wing views. If you know of any social-democratic white supremacists do tell us.

[fivepoint]

White supremacists do tend to have very right wing views. If you know of any social-democratic white supremacists do tell us.

Only the USA's largest neo-NAZI group...

National Socialist Movement
http://www.nsm88.org/index2.html
:D

[Anuba]

Only the USA's largest neo-NAZI group...

National Socialist Movement
http://www.nsm88.org/index2.html
:D
Nazism has very little to do with socialism and zip-nada-zero in common with social democracy. Hitler built his Frankenstein's monster of an ideology out of spare parts from both political wings. He formed most of his alliances on the political right, that's why nazism is referred to as an extreme right wing position.

Some of the key elements of Nazism were...

Anti-parliamentarism
racism
antisemitism
anti-communism
totalitarianism

In other words, Hitler had a lot in common with neo-cons and theo-cons in the GOP:

Anti-parliamentarism (big government suxxorz!!)
racism (proudly suppressin' the black vote since 1863!)
antisemitism (Ann Coulter: "Jews need to be perfected")
anti-communism (Damn those commie pinkos!)
totalitarianism (Big Brother Is Watching)

[it5five]

Only the USA's largest neo-NAZI group...

National Socialist Movement
http://www.nsm88.org/index2.html
:D



Oh boy, you really are clueless.

National Socialists ≠ socialists.

In fact, National Socialists oppose communism and socialism probably as much as you right-wingers do. When Hitler took power in Germany, he had framed the communists in the bombing of the parliament building (the name escapes me at this moment) and persecuted it's leading members. In fact, the Nazis saw the USSR as a bigger "threat" than any of the Western powers. When the allies were closing in on Berlin, the German troops abandoned the fight in the West and put all of their efforts into holding off the USSR, hoping that the American would capture Berlin rather than the Soviets.

You ought to do some research before you post anything. It isn't very difficult.

EDIT: Just would like to add that George Lincoln Rockwell (founder of American Nazi Party) was a big fan of McCarthyism. Socialists weren't fans of McCarthyism.

[Blue Velvet]

In other words, Hitler had a lot in common with neo-cons and theo-cons in the GOP:


It was like watching Gidget address the Reichstag. :D

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/17504


http://homepage.mac.com/alexandrajordan1/filechute/Palin.jpg

[fivepoint]

Nazism has very little to do with socialism and zip-nada-zero in common with social democracy. Hitler built his Frankenstein's monster of an ideology out of spare parts from both political wings. He formed most of his alliances on the political right, that's why nazism is referred to as an extreme right wing position.

Some of the key elements of Nazism were...

Anti-parliamentarism
racism
antisemitism
anti-communism
totalitarianism

In other words, Hitler had a lot in common with neo-cons and theo-cons in the GOP:

Anti-parliamentarism (big government suxxorz!!)
racism (proudly suppressin' the black vote since 1863!)
antisemitism (Ann Coulter: "Jews need to be perfected")
anti-communism (Damn those commie pinkos!)
totalitarianism (Big Brother Is Watching)

Oh boy, you really are clueless.

National Socialists ≠ socialists.

In fact, National Socialists oppose communism and socialism probably as much as you right-wingers do. When Hitler took power in Germany, he had framed the communists in the bombing of the parliament building (the name escapes me at this moment) and persecuted it's leading members. In fact, the Nazis saw the USSR as a bigger "threat" than any of the Western powers. When the allies were closing in on Berlin, the German troops abandoned the fight in the West and put all of their efforts into holding off the USSR, hoping that the American would capture Berlin rather than the Soviets.

You ought to do some research before you post anything. It isn't very difficult.

EDIT: Just would like to add that George Lincoln Rockwell (founder of American Nazi Party) was a big fan of McCarthyism. Socialists weren't fans of McCarthyism.

It was originally posted as a light-hearted jab / joke. However, now that you've attacked it, I went ahead and investigated further by reading through their talking points (I know, I'm about ready to throw-up right now:( ) and on economic points, I think it's very hard to say they are NOT liberal and/or socialist. Here are a few obvious examples:


All citizens shall have equal rights and duties, regardless of class or station.
We demand the nationalization of all businesses which have been formed into corporations (trusts).
The creation of a livable wage;
We demand the creation and maintenance of a healthy middle class, the immediate communalizing of big department stores and their lease at a cheap rate to small traders, and that the utmost consideration shall be shown to all small trades in the placing of state and municipal orders.
The primary land reform will be to ensure all members of the nation receive affordable housing.
However, we support the passing of a law for the expropriation of land for communal purposes without compensation when deemed necessary for land illegally acquired, or not administered in accordance with the national welfare.


On social issues, (all issues really) they're just plain CRAZY. I think the policies are far to deformed to say they are "on the right" or "on the left".
http://www.nsm88.org/25points/25pointsengl.html

[leekohler]

It was originally posted as a light-hearted jab / joke. However, now that you've attacked it, I went ahead and investigated further by reading through their talking points (I know, I'm about ready to throw-up right now:( ) and on economic points, I think it's very hard to say they are NOT liberal and/or socialist. Here are a few obvious examples:


All citizens shall have equal rights and duties, regardless of class or station.
We demand the nationalization of all businesses which have been formed into corporations (trusts).
The creation of a livable wage;
We demand the creation and maintenance of a healthy middle class, the immediate communalizing of big department stores and their lease at a cheap rate to small traders, and that the utmost consideration shall be shown to all small trades in the placing of state and municipal orders.
The primary land reform will be to ensure all members of the nation receive affordable housing.
However, we support the passing of a law for the expropriation of land for communal purposes without compensation when deemed necessary for land illegally acquired, or not administered in accordance with the national welfare.


On social issues, (all issues really) they're just plain CRAZY. I think the policies are far to deformed to say they are "on the right" or "on the left".
http://www.nsm88.org/25points/25pointsengl.html

Huh? That's a few, and I'd hardly call them all liberal. The rest of that crazy list is extremely right wing, however. If you want me to go pick and choose like you just did, I will. The list is a lot longer. That said- the consequences of extremes of either kind are loss of freedoms. It's all about balance. And right now, we're extremely out of balance.

[aethelbert]

You still didn't answer the question. Didn't really expect you to though.
Sorry, let me read their minds. I'll get back to you in 7-10 business days.

[leekohler]

Sorry, let me read their minds. I'll get back to you in 7-10 business days.

You were the one "went out on a limb" without explaining yourself, not me.

[geese]

All citizens shall have equal rights and duties, regardless of class or station.

On social issues, (all issues really) they're just plain CRAZY. I think the policies are far to deformed to say they are "on the right" or "on the left".
http://www.nsm88.org/25points/25pointsengl.html

All citizens? even the non-white/christian ones?

[fivepoint]

All citizens? even the non-white/christian ones?

Are you implying that "conservatives" are racist and unsupportive of "freedom of religion"?

[Anuba]

Huh? That's a few, and I'd hardly call them all liberal. The rest of that crazy list is extremely right wing, however.
Right, and furthermore we weren't talking about the original German nazis, we were talking about current day American white supremacists and neo-nazis, and these guys don't have a clue about nazi ideology, and they sure as sh** aren't socialists. More like racist anarcho-libertarians. Think Joe the Plumber plus KKK plus swastika tattoos, and you'll get the picture.

[geese]

Are you implying that "conservatives" are racist and unsupportive of "freedom of religion"?

errr, no I wasnt. I was picking up a point from that list from those National Socialist geezers of America, and wondering what they meant by that point.

I was implying that those NSM guys were racist, and that 'point' in question was meaningless.

[mactastic]

If they can't even rob a gun store how did they plan to kill anyone.
Most of the neo-Nazis I've had the displeasure of interacting with are -- shall we say -- a few tacos short of a combination plate. Not that there aren't smart and very hateful people among them, but your average white supremacist is just not that bright. Still plenty dangerous though.

Expect to see a resurgence among the white supremacists, and their close allies, the militia movement if Obama takes power. These folks did not go away when Clinton left office, they just were placated by Bush and his ilk for 8 years.

They'll be back, and in greater numbers. (See, I can quote old geek movies too! ;) )

[abijnk]

All citizens? even the non-white/christian ones?

You assume they consider non-white/christian's citizens...

Are you implying that "conservatives" are racist and unsupportive of "freedom of religion"?

You need to make up your mind. You posted that list calling it liberal, then someone quoted it and you called it conservative. Uh, which is it?