CrapBook Air 1.0

[CaptainCannabis]

I hate this machine. I can watch a youtube video or a normal video for as long as I want when I have the computer on a desk. But when I put it on my lap, even if I try to do my best to not having anything blocking my vents it just starts to sound like a hoover vacuum and run choppy.

Its either a big piece of crappy engineering or really bad testing before it was launched. Steve is eating his own words for bragging during its presentation of how good it was at keeping low cpu temps and stuff. I rather have a machine that burns my legs but runs a F* youtube video properly. Even the iphone can do it (and I dont care if it has different encoding).

And its not even that thin! It is just its design to make it seem to the eye like it is super thin. Plus who the F* cares if the machine weights 1kg or 2kg (like a macbook)?

And good for office stuff??... well... office s**s on Mac... Excel makes no sense, you cant use any of the shortcuts.

$3000 thrown to the F* trash!
Thanks Steve I hope you use that money to clean up our ass after ******** on some CrapBook airs!

I never had core shutdowns. But I put it on my lap... and yes... just discovered the way to make it happen.
And what is the point on Steve bragging how this machine runs at 1.8ghz whereas other machines only at 1.25ghz... when actually it doesnt deliver what is promised and goes down to 1.2 or even 800!!!!!!!!!

Who is with me? and got this thing on Feb 2008 and has felt like he wanted to throw it out of the window like a frisbee since then?

PS: The worst thing is that it runs choppy and stuff when istat actually says the temp is 60C and the fan is at 6200.... WTFFFFFFF??? ... such a useless machine. I remember as soon as I bought it it went up to 80C and never had a core shutdown, and the fan never started sounding until then.. really bad OS updates have made it into such a useless machine instead of fixing the very few problems that mine had.. ¬¬

Edit: And I forgot to mention something... I have had this problem since the beginning, and that is:

I cannot ichat with someone for more than 5 minutes before this machine starts to sound like a hoover vacuum and run so slow that I need to close it for it to cool down... it doesnt matter if its on my desk or my lap .... what a rip off Steve!!!

[iDave]

I remember as soon as I bought it it went up to 80C and never had a core shutdown, and the fan never started sounding until then.. really bad OS updates have made it into such a useless machine instead of fixing the very few problems that mine had.. ¬¬
Would it be possible to reinstall the original software and get it back to where it was?

[1rottenapple]

I love the air but like you i'm kinda disappointed by it. I needed coolbook to make it run properly and if anyone on here says... "blah blah it was not meant to be your only computer..." F U .

[mhnajjar]

You guys remind me of myself when I got my first MBA :D

[aleni]

boy you are lucky to be able to watch youtube for as long as you want. mine is stuttering when the video is longer than 4-5 minutes. i had to use coolbook to fix the damn issue!

the rev B MBA is was the first gen of MBA should be.

[Constantinos]

I was on two minds whether one should let such postings go and get lost into the oblivion of the net, or respond to set the record straight, but then again this has happened so many times now that it is probably pointless to engage in one more debate of this kind.

Yes there are MBA haters and lovers and that is the way it is because it is not a machine made for all (but then which machine is?). Why don't we stop wasting bandwidth and valuable time by having to go through such pointless arguments? Does not everybody have a life to pursue?

I am sorry if being too philosophical, but then it is in my Greek DNA ...

[Satori]

I hate this machine. I can watch a youtube video or a normal video for as long as I want when I have the computer on a desk. But when I put it on my laps, even if I try to do my best to not having anything blocking my vents it just starts to sound like a hoover vacuum and run choppy.

Its either a big piece of crappy engineering or really bad testing before it was launched. Steve is eating his own words for bragging during its presentation of how good it was at keeping low cpu temps and stuff. I rather have a machine that burns my legs but runs a F* youtube video properly. Even the iphone can do it (and I dont care if it has different encoding).

And its even not that thin! It is just its design to make it seem to the eye like it is super thin. Plus who the F* cares if the machine weights 1kg or 2kg (like a macbook)?

And good for office stuff??... well... office s**s on Mac... Excel makes no sense, you cant use any of the shortcuts.

$3000 thrown to the F* trash!
Thanks Steve I hope you use that money to clean up our ass after ******** on some CrapBook airs!

I never had core shutdowns. But I put it on my lap... and yes... just discovered the way to make it happen.
And what is the point on Steve bragging how this machine runs at 1.8ghz whereas other machines only at 1.25ghz... when actually it doesnt deliver what is promised and goes down to 1.2 or even 800!!!!!!!!!

Who is with me? and got this thing on Feb 2008 and has felt like he wanted to throw it out of the window like a frisbee since then?

PS: The worst thing is that it runs choppy and stuff when istat actually says the temp is 60C and the fan is at 6200.... WTFFFFFFF??? ... such a useless machine. I remember as soon as I bought it it went up to 80C and never had a core shutdown, and the fan never started sounding until then.. really bad OS updates have made it into such a useless machine instead of fixing the very few problems that mine had.. ¬¬

Sounds like your MBA experience has been horrible - mine has been good but then I didn't purchase until April when most of the maunfacturing problems seem to have gone away. I would return your machine to Apple and get these problems addressed before the warranty is up.

[aleni]

I was on two minds whether one should let such postings go and get lost into the oblivion of the net, or respond to set the record straight, but then again this has happened so many times now that it is probably pointless to engage in one more debate of this kind.

Yes there are MBA haters and lovers and that is the way it is because it is not a machine made for all (but then which machine is?). Why don't we stop wasting bandwidth and valuable time by having to go through such pointless arguments? Does not everybody have a life to pursue?

I am sorry if being too philosophical, but then it is in my Greek DNA ...

MBA is totally for me who travels alot. 1.6ghz of computing power is just fine with me, but the heat makes the system clocked down to 800mhz and makes it unusable. glad coolbook fixed this problem.

[uniforms]

I bought my MBA v1 in Feb of 2008. I never had any problem with the core shut down that I've read about here. To be honest, I've never had a computer I have enjoyed more! The only problem I had was the video cable became damaged and had to visit Apple for over a week. I found Apple's repair service takes much too long for the business professional. Other than that, I found v1 of MBA perfect. So perfect I went out Saturday and bought the v2 with the SSD! I love my MBA! Again, I'm sorry to hear of others having problems.

[gooddeal]

Who is with me? and got this thing on Feb 2008 and has felt like he wanted to throw it out of the window like a frisbee since then.

...and it took you 9 months to express your anger? Also, if you hate it so much, you should get rid of it 4 or 5 months ago so that you can get the most money.:confused:

[CaptainCannabis]

...and it took you 9 months to express your anger? Also, if you hate it so much, you should get rid of it 4 or 5 months ago so that you can get the most money.:confused:

I've expressed my anger like a million times. But I always hoped they would solve the problem somehow so I never decided myself to get rid of it. But now I see that Apple has no way of solving it, and like a bunch of sissies quickly come up with 2.0 to try solve the problem. I can still sell it for $1600.

Worst of all... they never acknowledged that it was a real problem... a real bunch of sissies ¬¬

[lenselijer]

Install coolbook and set the correct voltages, then you can watch youtube videos without the fan going crazy.

I also replaced my thermal paste, and since there are no warranty stickers you dont void anything :D

[Jpoon]

Install coolbook and set the correct voltages, then you can watch youtube videos without the fan going crazy.

I also replaced my thermal paste, and since there are no warranty stickers you dont void anything :D

Yeah, that's all nice... But the point is, those measures should have been taken care of before they shipped them out. No one should have to install third party software and re-apply thermal paste just to make a laptop functional out of the box.

[okrelayer]

My friend wants the Air so bad. He bought the new MacBook Pro, only to take it back since he wants the air. Im trying to talk him into the new MacBook. Stuff like this leads me to think that the new macbook is a better option

[FFTWarren]

no the new mb is not the answer. the screens suck. I went through 2 of em and then I just returned it and got my money back and just bought the 2.0MBA. I am completely satisfied with it. the new MB screens have dead and stuck pixels. one guy on the MB forum was on number 5 of the new MBs still trying to get one with a flawless screen. they either have dust behind the glass, dead pixels, or stuck pixels. so straight out the box you turn on a brand new MB and theres a stuck pixel in the middle of the screen.

[iomatic]

I only have one lap. Maybe that's your problem?

I hate this machine. I can watch a youtube video or a normal video for as long as I want when I have the computer on a desk. But when I put it on my laps, even if I try to do my best to not having anything blocking my vents it just starts to sound like a hoover vacuum and run choppy.

Its either a big piece of crappy engineering or really bad testing before it was launched. Steve is eating his own words for bragging during its presentation of how good it was at keeping low cpu temps and stuff. I rather have a machine that burns my legs but runs a F* youtube video properly. Even the iphone can do it (and I dont care if it has different encoding).

And its even not that thin! It is just its design to make it seem to the eye like it is super thin. Plus who the F* cares if the machine weights 1kg or 2kg (like a macbook)?

And good for office stuff??... well... office s**s on Mac... Excel makes no sense, you cant use any of the shortcuts.

$3000 thrown to the F* trash!
Thanks Steve I hope you use that money to clean up our ass after ******** on some CrapBook airs!

I never had core shutdowns. But I put it on my lap... and yes... just discovered the way to make it happen.
And what is the point on Steve bragging how this machine runs at 1.8ghz whereas other machines only at 1.25ghz... when actually it doesnt deliver what is promised and goes down to 1.2 or even 800!!!!!!!!!

Who is with me? and got this thing on Feb 2008 and has felt like he wanted to throw it out of the window like a frisbee since then?

PS: The worst thing is that it runs choppy and stuff when istat actually says the temp is 60C and the fan is at 6200.... WTFFFFFFF??? ... such a useless machine. I remember as soon as I bought it it went up to 80C and never had a core shutdown, and the fan never started sounding until then.. really bad OS updates have made it into such a useless machine instead of fixing the very few problems that mine had.. ¬¬

[CaptainCannabis]

I only have one lap. Maybe that's your problem?

I know... spelling mistake. If you read further down I write lap correcty the 2nd time.

[Goldcard]

I love the air but like you i'm kinda disappointed by it.

That sounds kind of contradictory.

[Goldcard]

My friend wants the Air so bad. He bought the new MacBook Pro, only to take it back since he wants the air. Im trying to talk him into the new MacBook. Stuff like this leads me to think that the new macbook is a better option

Don't be persuaded. There are tons of satisfied Air users out there that don't feel the need to vent their frustrations on some pointless forum.

It's a great computer and don't let a few people's opinions dissuade you from checking it out. Just make sure you know what you want the computer for and you won't make the mistake of buying the Air when it is not the right computer for you.

Learn from other's mistakes and do your research and you will be fine.

[Heavenkittykat]

I hate this machine. I can watch a youtube video or a normal video for as long as I want when I have the computer on a desk. But when I put it on my lap, even if I try to do my best to not having anything blocking my vents it just starts to sound like a hoover vacuum and run choppy.

Its either a big piece of crappy engineering or really bad testing before it was launched. Steve is eating his own words for bragging during its presentation of how good it was at keeping low cpu temps and stuff. I rather have a machine that burns my legs but runs a F* youtube video properly. Even the iphone can do it (and I dont care if it has different encoding).

And its not even that thin! It is just its design to make it seem to the eye like it is super thin. Plus who the F* cares if the machine weights 1kg or 2kg (like a macbook)?

And good for office stuff??... well... office s**s on Mac... Excel makes no sense, you cant use any of the shortcuts.

$3000 thrown to the F* trash!
Thanks Steve I hope you use that money to clean up our ass after ******** on some CrapBook airs!

I never had core shutdowns. But I put it on my lap... and yes... just discovered the way to make it happen.
And what is the point on Steve bragging how this machine runs at 1.8ghz whereas other machines only at 1.25ghz... when actually it doesnt deliver what is promised and goes down to 1.2 or even 800!!!!!!!!!

Who is with me? and got this thing on Feb 2008 and has felt like he wanted to throw it out of the window like a frisbee since then?

PS: The worst thing is that it runs choppy and stuff when istat actually says the temp is 60C and the fan is at 6200.... WTFFFFFFF??? ... such a useless machine. I remember as soon as I bought it it went up to 80C and never had a core shutdown, and the fan never started sounding until then.. really bad OS updates have made it into such a useless machine instead of fixing the very few problems that mine had.. ¬¬


I'm sorry about your bad experience with your MBA. I'm wondering though, have you ever brought your MBA to the apple store to get it checked out. I know its hard to get your perspective straight especially if you have a bad experience, but not all MBA rev. A have the same problem. Actually, I have an 8 month old MBA 1.6/80 GB and its working nicely. I watch videos a LOT (youtube, Imeem, veoh) and I have no problems. I usually watch anime for HOURS on my MBA and I've never experienced anything similar to your experience.

[iomatic]

I know... spelling mistake. If you read further down I write lap correcty the 2nd time.

Just ribbin' ya. Take it to the Apple Store-- often if necessary-- and make sure you register your dissatisfaction with them.

[sparkstack]

Tony i.e. GoldCard
Bose Corporation
MacBook Air 1.6Ghz
17'' iMac (fiance's) w/ eyeTV
iPhone 8GB (and one for fiance)

Hate to nit pick, but It's Fiancee, not Fiance. Unless you really are a woman about to marry a man...

[Bobjob186]

take it back and let them know, I have 2 macbook air's and they are just fine, I run hulu videos with no problem, yeah the fans kick in, but the fan kicks in on my macbook and imac as well. If you buy a computer or any peace of electronics in the first months it's out you're going to get problems...just fact.

[hippo206]

+1 for title

[lenselijer]

Yeah, that's all nice... But the point is, those measures should have been taken care of before they shipped them out. No one should have to install third party software and re-apply thermal paste just to make a laptop functional out of the box.

I can take it back and ask for a new air, but that will not solve the problem at all. All macbook air 1.0 are that way, and try to explain to the people in the store what the problem is, they dont understand :(

With coolbook my mac is locked at the 1600mhz its supposed to run at, only thing i had to do was install coolbook and lower the voltages, i dont think reapplying thermal paste did any good then shave of a couple of degrees.

It's maxing out at 85C now at 1600mhz, i guess without thermal paste it would be 90C, and the hardware downclocking only starts at 100C.

Only problem left is bootcamp, there is no tool like coolbook for windows xp, and it starts throttling to 1200mhz when its only 75C :(

[twist2b]

I understand your frustration. Buts still, you had the ability to read reviews.

I have found some people actually did NOT have trouble with the AIR crazy enough :P But some do, like you, have some problems.

I am so sorry for your problems. I recommend you sell it on ebay and try to buy another macbook.

[CaptainCannabis]

I understand your frustration. Buts still, you had the ability to read reviews.

I have found some people actually did NOT have trouble with the AIR crazy enough :P But some do, like you, have some problems.

I am so sorry for your problems. I recommend you sell it on ebay and try to buy another macbook.

I got mine on like Feb 2nd or 4th. There were absolutely no reviews by then, as people started to receive their MBAs on the same day. I didn't use mine a lot for the first 14 days... so I never got to realise how bad it was.

On the other hand, there were many reviews by websites a little before then, as they received theirs to review them, but none addressed the issue... it just makes me wonder how much they test a machine before they actually start writing about it...

[SFStateStudent]

I'm not onboard with the OP; I've had two MBA's and I sold my 1st to my brother b/c I needed more hard drive space than the MBA's provided. I bought my 2nd MBA b/c I realized the MBA's potential and understood what needs would be satisfied and what needs didn't need satisfying...:cool:

[twist2b]

I got mine on like Feb 2nd or 4th. There were absolutely no reviews by then, as people started to receive their MBAs on the same day. I didn't use mine a lot for the first 14 days... so I never got to realise how bad it was.

On the other hand, there were many reviews by websites a little before then, as they received theirs to review them, but none addressed the issue... it just makes me wonder how much they test a machine before they actually start writing about it...

OHHHH, Ok. I am sorry that happened to you. Have you tried to re-install OS X and remove un-necessary things like extra languages? Also have you tried cool-book or w.e its called? Might help ALOT. Some people have REALLY liked the Rev A air though.

Again, really sorry :'(

[shokunin]

Only problem left is bootcamp, there is no tool like coolbook for windows xp, and it starts throttling to 1200mhz when its only 75C :(

There are many Windows utilities similar to Coolbook, question is will it work with the motherboard in the air. Check our Crystal CPUID and RMClock, there are host of other "undervolting" and multiplier unlocking applications on the Windows side of the world and have been for years.

[1rottenapple]

Man when I read people who say wait for the second revision to buy, I thought it would never apply to me, but damn I wish I waited for the second revision. Lesson learned, never again.

[spencers]

guess i'm the only one with a MBA 1.0 with no issues

[chocolaterabbit]

With coolbook my mac is locked at the 1600mhz its supposed to run at, only thing i had to do was install coolbook and lower the voltages, i dont think reapplying thermal paste did any good then shave of a couple of degrees.

It's maxing out at 85C now at 1600mhz, i guess without thermal paste it would be 90C, and the hardware downclocking only starts at 100C.

Only problem left is bootcamp, there is no tool like coolbook for windows xp, and it starts throttling to 1200mhz when its only 75C :(

Did you just say you locked it to 1600? That would be very bad, since you never need 1600mhz all the time. browsing and idling you will need only 800mhz or less. no wonder your computer is so hot. your battery life is also probably a lot less.

[Ironic]

That's why i bought the MB and sold the Air!
Watching anything turned it into a Hover Craft.
1.8 with SD drives are selling for about 1300.00 at the moment:(

[sparkstack]

Did you just say you locked it to 1600? That would be very bad, since you never need 1600mhz all the time. browsing and idling you will need only 800mhz or less. no wonder your computer is so hot. your battery life is also probably a lot less.
Finally, someone who 'gets' it. Cool book is great for finding out the minimum amount of power your own processor can reliably run with. Less power = less heat = less battery drain = win. Locking the processor speed is retarded. You wouldn't sit at the traffic lights with your engine at the redline, so why force your processor to run at full speed when it's just waiting for something to do..?

This whole argument about the Air's processor slowing down and speeding up is retarded. Seriously, Intel has been selling processors that speed step for years. It's not an Apple thing, it's not something that has only arrived with the Air, and above all it's not a bad thing to have.

[iDave]

It might be stupid but it's not retarded. :rolleyes:

[netdog]

We have two MBA rev. A's, and I love these computers, but they do have big issues with heat. Neither can play a movie (iTunes supplied) without stuttering after a while. Anybody who says these machines don't have issues hasn't done much with theirs. Video should play on a modern laptop without issue.

[buccsmf1]

the heating issues are certainly a problem for me but other than that i love the thing to death. And, even if you dont want to admit it, THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE YOUR MAIN COMPUTER. I've got my iMac that i use whenever I'm at home and my air for taking to class and traveling. Perfect combination for me.

[macsmurf]

Finally, someone who 'gets' it. Cool book is great for finding out the minimum amount of power your own processor can reliably run with. Less power = less heat = less battery drain = win. Locking the processor speed is retarded. You wouldn't sit at the traffic lights with your engine at the redline, so why force your processor to run at full speed when it's just waiting for something to do..?

This whole argument about the Air's processor slowing down and speeding up is retarded. Seriously, Intel has been selling processors that speed step for years. It's not an Apple thing, it's not something that has only arrived with the Air, and above all it's not a bad thing to have.

Speedstep and other technologies like it is designed to prolong the time a laptop can run on battery power. It is not designed to make up for poor industrial design. Any well-designed laptop will be able to run at full speed indefinitely (well, for years anyway) if power is not an issue. In addition, speedstep can be turned off and the only thing you'll notice is a slight decrease in battery life. To my knowledge, no laptop manufacturer besides Apple limit the CPU to compensate for a poor thermal envelope.

The problem with the Air is that it is not a well designed laptop from a hardware point of view. Anyone who knows anything about computers would feel ripped off.

The argument that you can just reapply the cooling paste og undervolt your CPU is what is laughable. Consumers shouldn't be mucking about with either in order to make any computer run as it was meant to run in the first place, especially when we're speaking of a company that take a lot of pride in their so-called end-to-end solutions.

So I guess the question is: If the customers don't know that you're ripping them off, are they actually being ripped off?

Granted, the Air has other qualities but Apple should at least be honest about its shortcomings.

[HLdan]

the heating issues are certainly a problem for me but other than that i love the thing to death. And, even if you dont want to admit it, THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE YOUR MAIN COMPUTER.

That may be true but for the type of money that you pay for the AIR it should at least be able to play videos for hours without a hitch or cause of core shutdowns. Playing videos or movies is as simple as web surfing. Rev B has corrected this.

[NewGenAdam]

That sounds kind of contradictory.

Oh, it makes perfect paradoxical sense.
^o^

[lenselijer]

Did you just say you locked it to 1600? That would be very bad, since you never need 1600mhz all the time. browsing and idling you will need only 800mhz or less. no wonder your computer is so hot. your battery life is also probably a lot less.

I bought a 1.6ghz macbook air and not a 800mhz one. And yes, I notice a big difference between these 2 speeds, programs like photoshop, safari and itunes start much quicker now.
My computer is 35C while browsing, only when i watch a video on youtube or play a game its 85C. But atleast it wont stutter or anything, even 1080p movies play smooth.

The 65nm chips in the first revision were just not efficient enough to be used in such a small casing. Yes, I should have waited for the reviews, but after seeing the keynote I went to the store and bought it immediately.

I've tried numerous undervolt tools on windows xp, like rmclock, but when the temp reaches 75C it clocks down to 1200mhz.
Run the Everest stress test and check the cpu speed for yourself.
It looks like there is no tool that is compatible with the air which can turn off all the 'safety' features apple has put in place. I dont understand why apple did this, because the CPU will clock itself to 1200mhz when it reaches 100C anyway.

Now when i play a game on bootcamp it will play smooth the first 3 minutes, then the temperature reaches 85C and the framerate drops because the CPU is running at 1200mhz :(

[twist2b]

I am going to try to make a "tl;dr" version of this thread:

The Rev A has many faults, but still loved by some.
The Rev B corrected those faults, it is loved by everyone.

For those that bought the Rev A, sad day...
For those that waited and bought the Rev B, happy day!

[iDave]

After reading about all of the problems with all of the MacBooks, I decided last night to order a $500 windoze netbook instead. For my portable needs, I think it'll be great. I now need not worry about glass screens, faulty hinges and trackpads or overheating. :D

Thanks for all of the lively discussion.

[chocolaterabbit]

In addition, speedstep can be turned off and the only thing you'll notice is a slight decrease in battery life.

I'm not sure you can turn it off, unless you force it with coolbook. Apple laptops don't have this function anyway. I'm pretty sure the battery life difference is significant, but if you never unplug it, then there's no reason to worry.

I bought a 1.6ghz macbook air and not a 800mhz one. And yes, I notice a big difference between these 2 speeds, programs like photoshop, safari and itunes start much quicker now.


I think your issue is speed step not working well for you since apple downclocks whenever temperatures reach a certain level. you want it to speed up to full speed even if the CPU is near 100 degrees, which it doesn't do, and so the only solution is to run it at full speed all the time. I don't really have a solution in that case, i would've done what you did. However, on battery you'd be advised to return to normal settings to save battery life.

[robeddie]

I have a rev. 1 Macbook Air (just bought it new at a local Apple store for a good deal).

I too have seen the choppiness that begins to occur when you watch a lot of YouTube (or other online videos).

What I don't get is, let's say it is clocking down to 1.2ghz or even 1.0ghz. Even so, WHY is 1.0ghz TOO SLOW to view a little online video!?!?!?

For goodness sakes, it was just a couple years ago I was on a 1.0ghz g4 and watching online videos all day (well not ALL day).

What's going on that now that a 1ghz machine (assuming that's what the Macbook Air becomes when hot) isn't enough to play some postage stamp sized videos without choking?

[aleni]

I have a rev. 1 Macbook Air (just bought it new at a local Apple store for a good deal).

I too have seen the choppiness that begins to occur when you watch a lot of YouTube (or other online videos).

What I don't get is, let's say it is clocking down to 1.2ghz or even 1.0ghz. Even so, WHY is 1.0ghz TOO SLOW to view a little online video!?!?!?

For goodness sakes, it was just a couple years ago I was on a 1.0ghz g4 and watching online videos all day (well not ALL day).

What's going on that now that a 1ghz machine (assuming that's what the Macbook Air becomes when hot) isn't enough to play some postage stamp sized videos without choking?

i'm confused too by this crap.

when i erase 1400 and 1600mhz from coolbook and just let the air operate at 800 and 1200mhz, youtube runs damn fine. some skipping occured but it's not that annoyed me.

but when coolbook uninstalled, and then let the osx throttling back down to 1200 and 800mhz, the video becomes stuttering like butter from the south park.

[twist2b]

After reading about all of the problems with all of the MacBooks, I decided last night to order a $500 windoze netbook instead. For my portable needs, I think it'll be great. I now need not worry about glass screens, faulty hinges and trackpads or overheating. :D

Thanks for all of the lively discussion.

Thats actually pretty funny though. We critique apple's supply line just because we know its the one company that can bring the perfection that we demand. Most companies like Dell and HP take diff hardware and throw them together in a box. But, everyone has an opinion. Good luck.

[mmulin]

i'm confused too by this crap.

when i erase 1400 and 1600mhz from coolbook and just let the air operate at 800 and 1200mhz, youtube runs damn fine. some skipping occured but it's not that annoyed me.

but when coolbook uninstalled, and then let the osx throttling back down to 1200 and 800mhz, the video becomes stuttering like butter from the south park.

you guys need to understand that video de/encoding is still quite a CPU taxing task. usually, dedicated HW takes care of it, in professional context or home appliances anyway. the RevB MBA's GPU finally supports most of the de/encoding, hence taking load of the CPU.

[aleni]

you guys need to understand that video de/encoding is still quite a CPU taxing task. usually, dedicated HW takes care of it, in professional context or home appliances anyway. the RevB MBA's GPU finally supports most of the de/encoding, hence taking load of the CPU.

my sister's laptop which sucks so bad with its 1.6ghz core duo and intel graphic card can run youtube without stuttering.

i can't wait for the new mba SSD version to arrive (indonesia). maybe 2 weeks.

i love the air so bad that i'm willing to sell my first gen and buy the second gen of the SSD version.

[thechungster]

Umm, even if I put my MacBook (Black) onto my lap, the fans can get loud since it's blocking the air flow. Yes office sucks, that's why I use iWork08 :D

[Ironic]

Rev B is great,being a first A adopter, B is all I hoped for.

[justit]

my sister's laptop which sucks so bad with its 1.6ghz core duo and intel graphic card can run youtube without stuttering.


have you tried installing the new Flash 10 player? I've noticed on my '07 macbook it helps

[fteoath64]

My air (August build date) is fine. It can do 2 Youtube videos and one VLC video fine without stuttering with the temp peaking at 70 Deg C. Comes back to 55 Deg C with no load and the fan spinning at 2500 rpm silent!.

Only issues is some trouble connecting to Time Capsule sometimes when the RF interference get bad in my area. Switching the channel works on the TC. I had an aluminum cooling base with 4 port USD hub built in and 3 botto fans adjustable with a dial knob. Nice portable setup. Will get the AIR V2 when the SSD gets to 256GB

[fteoath64]

I really think it is poor build quality rather than the flaw in design, also the need for proper QC testing was severely compromised. Remember it is China where they build this thing. Remember the thermal paste application that was way too much ?.

I do not think the build machines even had a few hours of QC testing (Apple's QC test personnel, please tell us how you do your OC), and it looks like the slap together the parts turned it on and then package the thing and out of the door it goes. It all speculation, of course and i hope I am dead wrong on the above. But the number problems seems to imply a very quick time-to-manufacture and lots of corner-cutting.

[justit]

But the number problems seems to imply a very quick time-to-manufacture and lots of corner-cutting.

Is it cutting corners or the price of innovation? They attempted to do what no one else could by making the thinnest laptop in the world with unibody and couldn't foresee the problems ahead?

[Ironic]

I think the first Air was a beautiful thought, but after owning it I felt like all I was doing was watching the fans and temp rise, I sold it after 6 times in the shop.

I now have the new model and what a joy it is no fricken issues at all dudes nothing!
I did by Applecare, Just in case.

[aleni]

I think the first Air was a beautiful thought, but after owning it I felt like all I was doing was watching the fans and temp rise, I sold it after 6 times in the shop.

I now have the new model and what a joy it is no fricken issues at all dudes nothing!
I did by Applecare, Just in case.

sold my mbp penryn for the beautiness of the macbook air. and that's the biggest mistake i've ever done. watching tv shows from itunes, halfway through that, the movie becomes stuttering so i had to sleep the damn air for a while to make the temp lower so i can resume the movie later.

coolbook doesn't help, it even makes the OSX completely frozen even with only setting 800mhz at default voltage.