Why Apple Did What They Did

[dougelo7]

Okay I've started this thread to explain to all the naysayers why Apple made the compromises they did in the MacBook Air (you're still welcome to comment on their other products as well). :p

I won't steal all the talking points from you, but here are some starters:

Just look at the top/middle left of the first attached photo (of an aluminum MacBook) to see why Apple forewent putting an optical drive into MacBook Air - it takes up WAY too much space.
Apple had to only have one USB port because of the INTERNAL limitations. The only way they could add another would be to reduce the size of the battery, which would likely be complained about more loudly than the addition of another port would be praised. :rolleyes: (See second photo for the size of the battery and logic board inside MBA; the three-port door is in the top left of the snapshot.)
The processor in MBA rules. Hands down. If you need proof just look at other "ultraportables" that have like 1 GHz processors. :confused:
MBA is not expensive, relatively. Again, just look at other ultraportables - they usually START around $2,000!!! :eek: (MBA starts at $1,699 (http://www.apple.com/eppstore/militarycity.com) for me since I'm military and $1,799 for normal people.) :cool:


Feel free to add other explanations! :D

[belvdr]

MBA doesn't have an optical drive because, think about it, who pops in a disk while running/walking down, say 42nd street to get to work? NO ONE. You can't balance the jewel case and the laptop and your Starbucks and your briefcase to do so. Since nobody ever uses mobile laptops' (MacBook Pro is NOT mobile in my opinion and I've used one for two years) optical drives Apple took it out. Just look at the top/middle left of the attached photo to see why they did - it takes up WAY too much space.

Who walks around all over downtown with a laptop outside of a bag, trying to get to work and drink coffee? Someone may do so going from one building to another, but going to work? Who also says anyone is trying to flip CDs/DVDs while running/walking anyway? Terrible example and explanation for it. I think your explanation of physical room below makes more sense than this.

I think the MBP is portable. I have a 15.4" HP laptop and a 15.4" Dell as well. Both seem portable to me. Why do you think they are not?

Apple had to only have one USB port because of the INTERNAL limitations. The only way they could add another would be to reduce the size of the battery which would probably be complained about more loudly than the addition of another port. :rolleyes:

Agreed.

The processor in MBA rules. Hands down. If you need proof just look at other "ultraportables" that have like 1 GHz processors. :confused:

I don't see the issue with the processor either. It's an ultraportable, not a workstation.

MBA is not expensive, relatively. Again, just look at other ultraportables - they usually START around $2,000!!! :eek: (MBA starts at $1,699 (http://www.apple.com/eppstore/militarycity.com) for me since I'm military and $1,799 for normal people.) :cool:

Depends on one's needs and finances.

Feel free to add other explanations! :D

[aleni]

i'm glad that apple doesn't include the optical drive on MBA, that thing is ancient dude!

i hope macbook and macbook pro will not have optical drive and just include the external superdrive, it will be less weight and much thinner laptops.

[Compile 'em all]

i'm glad that apple doesn't include the optical drive on MBA, that thing is ancient dude!

i hope macbook and macbook pro will not have optical drive and just include the external superdrive, it will be less weight and much thinner laptops.

i think so too.

[dougelo7]

I think the MBP is portable. I have a 15.4" HP laptop and a 15.4" Dell as well. Both seem portable to me. Why do you think they are not?

The main gripe I had with my MacBook Pro (I sold it to iFixit) was that it (a) was too heavy to take everywhere - bringing it along was a really big deal; (b) it felt too clunky and therefore delicate - granted this was probably fixed by the new unibody design.

Others' reaction to my bringing of my MBP usually sounded like "OMG! You brought your laptop!" "You didn't have to go to all this trouble!" "Why did you bring your Mac when we have perfectly good PCs here?!"

My point is that carrying around the light and thin MacBook Air won't be regarded as a chore, but a pleasure, since I'll get full access to Mac OS X no matter where I am.

(Note the PC comment - the main reason why I usually didn't bring my MacBook Pro to school everyday was because it was still too thick and heavy to carry every day - I'm hoping my new MacBook Air will solve these issues.)

[belvdr]

Weight is relative too. I have no idea how much either of my PCs weigh, but I'm certain they are heavier than the Air and maybe even the MBP. Either way, their weight is not noticeable enough to me.

[belvdr]

i'm glad that apple doesn't include the optical drive on MBA, that thing is ancient dude!

i hope macbook and macbook pro will not have optical drive and just include the external superdrive, it will be less weight and much thinner laptops.

So do you think you'll just download all software when purchased? Case in point, X-Plane is 8 DVDs right now (around 32GB). Don't think bandwidth is that cheap yet, not to mention optical media is great for backups and video.

[aleni]

So do you think you'll just download all software when purchased? Case in point, X-Plane is 8 DVDs right now (around 32GB). Don't think bandwidth is that cheap yet, not to mention optical media is great for backups and video.

i don't use x-plane.

i don't backups music and videos every time. and when backing up stuff, it's better done at home. that's why the external superdrive is there.

i rather lugging a much thinner and lighter laptop than having the optical drive all the time which is not used all the time unlike the hard drive and the other parts of the notebook..

[sherthang]

the optical drive all the time which is not used all the time unlike the hard drive and the other parts of the notebook..

I totally agree. Apple got it right when they got rid of the floppy, now when they got rid of the optical-these are barely used items for a whole class of customers-the will stay residual in some products but will likely go the way of the floppy one of these days

two questions remain=
1)why did they take the apple logo off of the command key
2) no mouse in apple's line up has a button anymore except for the MacBook Air-i wonder why

[aleni]

I totally agree. Apple got it right when they got rid of the floppy, now when they got rid of the optical-these are barely used items for a whole class of customers-the will stay residual in some products but will likely go the way of the floppy one of these days

two questions remain=
1)why did they take the apple logo off of the command key
2) no mouse in apple's line up has a button anymore except for the MacBook Air-i wonder why

1) maybe they realize that apple is not a command button.
2) the air still has a silver bezel instead of the black glass bezel instead. i believe it's lack of time for holiday rev.B release that makes the design of the air same. in the next revision i believe they will include the new trackpad and a glass bezel which sucks to me.

[twist2b]

I have heard ALOT of complaints about the lack of an optical drive. BUT the super drive is JUST as nice, and MOUNTING drives is so easy now a days. Also, Personally, I don't use a drive that much. And if I NEEDED the drive, I can usually wait until I get home before I install an app OR rip a cd. Seriously consider how often you USE a cd, and were you use it! See what I am saying?

The only complaint I can think of for the AIR is the lack of a 4GB ram option, but again its really not that bad. I don't think people really lose anything significant with only 2GB of ram.


I like OP's thought though.

edit - and yeah I am seriously considering waiting for the next REV for the updated trackpad and maybe some MORE improvements :P I am FREAKISHLY impressed in this Rev though....

[Tomorrow]

...think about it, who pops in a disk while running/walking down, say 42nd street to get to work? NO ONE.

Well, I don't - but that's mostly because I'm not USING the thing while I'm running/walking anywhere.

Since nobody ever uses mobile laptops' ... optical drives Apple took it out.

Wow...I read these forums and I realize I'm in a minority that's shrinking at an alarming rate. I have an iMac and a MacBook and I use the optical drives on both machines more days than not - either to play games, watch a DVD, or burn discs. I know that Apple makes an external Superdrive, but I'm just not interested - one more thing to carry around and plug in.

But your blanket statement ("nobody") isn't quite correct.

[twist2b]

Wow...I read these forums and I realize I'm in a minority that's shrinking at an alarming rate. I have an iMac and a MacBook and I use the optical drives on both machines more days than not - either to play games, watch a DVD, or burn discs. I know that Apple makes an external Superdrive, but I'm just not interested - one more thing to carry around and plug in.

But your blanket statement ("nobody") isn't quite correct.

You still use cd's to boot games? SOOO over-rated :P Its so easy now-a-days to just boot games with a drive mounter. Faster, and so much nicer/quieter! Also, most recent games do not require cd's anymore.

watch a DVD, ok, so again you can easily hook your movie up with a super drive. Your prob not going to be moving any time soon. And another way is to just put the movie ON your drive! (or put it on a time capsule if you have it, for wireless...ness)

The super drive is SOOOO small its the size of a cd! It's awesome.


Just my 2 cents. I typed this quick, so I prob did not present my points very well. But oh well, just sayin.

[rotorblade69]

OK Explain whether the air is a pro, consumer, or new class of macbook computer line.

I dont mind the no CD dvd drive.
I dont mind one usb
I dont mind the new video port thing

What should be changed in my opinion is the headphone jack should be on the side of the computer by the magsafe port. or next to the hatch. who wants to open the hatch just to use the headphones.
Loosing the Headphone jack would open up for another port say compact ethernet or maybe even the dreaded FIREWIRE.
But the firewire puts us back at whether the air is pro or consumer. Consumer no firewire pro firewire. I think the air is what a lot of people I talk to want and thats a thin cddvd drive less macbook PRO. Basically a air pro on steroids.

[darrellishere]

I have to agree!

The macbook pro has gone in the other direction. Heavyer, glass, wasteful CD drive!

If they started from scratch, why didn't they thin-ovate like the macbook air.

Light THIN and uber sexy. Drop the glass.

Their agin, now thier is space for another apple notebook.

Well, as we become more specific about our portable needs, new uses and different usage patterns need to be considered. eg Netbook for example.

Lets face it the pro, is turning very consumer on us all of a sudden.

Do people still use these for work? Serious Professionals, Photographers, the numbers must be tiny compared to overall sales.

CD Drives are dead, give us OSX on USB Drives ;) We pay enough for it £80 :)

[aleni]

OK Explain whether the air is a pro, consumer, or new class of macbook computer line.

I dont mind the no CD dvd drive.
I dont mind one usb
I dont mind the new video port thing

What should be changed in my opinion is the headphone jack should be on the side of the computer by the magsafe port. or next to the hatch. who wants to open the hatch just to use the headphones.
Loosing the Headphone jack would open up for another port say compact ethernet or maybe even the dreaded FIREWIRE.
But the firewire puts us back at whether the air is pro or consumer. Consumer no firewire pro firewire. I think the air is what a lot of people I talk to want and thats a thin cddvd drive less macbook PRO. Basically a air pro on steroids.

the mainboard is on the right, so you can't put the audio jack on the left. remember it's very thin and small space to fit into the macbook air.

[AppliedMicro]

Apple had to only have one USB port because of the INTERNAL limitations. The only way they could add another would be to reduce the size of the battery
Really? Couldn't they have added another USB port right next to the one it has got?

MBA is not expensive, relatively. Again, just look at other ultraportables - they usually START around $2,000!!!
Not anymore. Just look at the Asus EEE PC and the like. It's certainly a notebook, it runs "normal" OS like Windows, it's certainly ultraportable - and it comes at a fraction of the Air's price point.

But even if you account for the EEE PC's obvious disadvantages (display, key size, processing power), the new Air comes a at relatively steep price. For instance, look at Lenovo's X200 starts at $1099.

Feel free to add other explanations!
I believe they must have had a deep look at usage patterns of mobile people, during the design process. And then they tried to get the 5 most important (= most heavily used things) "right":

- keyboard: used 90% or more of the time your book's switched on
- screen: ditto
- processing power (issues with Youtube playback and high CPU usage in Flash prove the point, especially on Macs)
- build quality / ruggedness
- weight!

[twist2b]

Actually, turns out that hackers have found that the AIR is capable of 3 MORE USB PORTS. 1 high and 2 lows. Even just the 1 high couldn't hert.

[ppc750fx]

Actually, turns out that hackers have found that the AIR is capable of 3 MORE USB PORTS. 1 high and 2 lows. Even just the 1 high couldn't hert.

It's not that hard to figure out (a quick look at System Profiler will reveal that), but that's not the OP's point. The problem was likely one of internal space. As the OP rightly pointed out, reducing the battery size for another USB port would have drawn a _lot_ more flack than the current solution.

Would I like an additional USB port? Sure. But for me, battery life is the most important thing -- important enough that I'm willing to forgo the convenience of a second USB port if it would require me to deal with a shorter battery life.

[chocolaterabbit]

Something else to consider is if the Air wasn't tapered as heavily. a laptop that's 0.76 inches to 0.5 inches say, would have been more capable in terms of cooling and fitting the HD in. Would you really mind the extra tiny wedge?

[dougelo7]

Actually, turns out that hackers have found that the AIR is capable of 3 MORE USB PORTS. 1 high and 2 lows. Even just the 1 high couldn't hert.

I don't see how that's possible, considering the size limitations on the Air's case - it's already so thin that the one USB port takes up like the entire vertical space. I can see having a second USB port next to it but I don't know how Apple would shift the battery around to make room. :confused:

[dougelo7]

Something else to consider is if the Air wasn't tapered as heavily. a laptop that's 0.76 inches to 0.5 inches say, would have been more capable in terms of cooling and fitting the HD in. Would you really mind the extra tiny wedge?

Yes, actually. In reality, the main reason why I love using MacBook Air is because I don't need to prop my arms up - the computer is so thin my arms are practically laying flat on the table while typing on the MBA. If its thinnest point were thickened to half an inch this selling point would be eliminated for most people.

[dougelo7]

Not anymore. Just look at the Asus EEE PC and the like. It's certainly a notebook, it runs "normal" OS like Windows, it's certainly ultraportable - and it comes at a fraction of the Air's price point.

But even if you account for the EEE PC's obvious disadvantages (display, key size, processing power), the new Air comes a at relatively steep price. For instance, look at Lenovo's X200 starts at $1099.

Here's what I said:
...just look at other ultraportables - they usually START around $2,000!!!

Note that I said "usually." There are certainly exceptions to my statement; my point is that Apple (for once, I'll admit) is asking a comparatively reasonable price (in contrast to iPods and their other products).

I suspect the price of MBA will greatly lower in the coming years as a result of less expensive parts and already-paid-for-by-"beta testers" equipment (Apple had to build entirely new machines to manufacture MBA - think of the cost of Blu-Ray vs. DVD for an example of this effect).

[AppliedMicro]

Note that I said "usually." There are certainly exceptions to my statement;
Yeah, but please still allow me to disagree. The $2000 figure is how things used to be.

But nowadays these sub-2k "exceptions" are rather the rule. Especially if you account for differences in specs and configuration. Right now, the MacBook Air looks pretty disappointing to me (at least on paper, that is). For instance, look at Sony's VGN-Z540EBB. That Book is pretty comparable to the Air, spec-wise. It's currently $1849 directly from Sony. That $50 more than a new MacBook Air, directly from Apple, right?

So what hardware can these additional $50 buy?

- a 2.40 GHz CPU over the Air's 1,6 GHz one
- a 320 GB hard drive.
- DVD writer built-in
- 3 GB RAM installed
- a HDMI port built in
- a VGA port built in
- a FireWire port built in
- an ExpressCard Slot
- a second USB port
- an Ethernet port built in
- an analog modem built in
- 9 additional months of free telephone support
- a card reader built in
- stereo speakers built in (supposedly?)

A pretty good deal for a mere 50 bucks, ain't it? :rolleyes:

Lenovo also has some competitive models, relatively aggressively priced. I fully agree with this review I read today, stating that the MacBook Air should be priced at $1599, at the most. $1499 would be a "comparatively reasonable price" to me. But not more than that (see above). At $1799 I feel overcharged. Especially by Apple making all these adapters for VGA, DVI and Ethernet optional. These three adapters cost like 10 bucks to make. But I'm supposed to shell out almost $100 for really basic connectivity !?

No thanks Apple. :mad:

[aleni]

Yeah, but please still allow me to disagree. The $2000 figure is how things used to be.

But nowadays these sub-2k "exceptions" are rather the rule. Especially if you account for differences in specs and configuration. Right now, the MacBook Air looks pretty disappointing to me (at least on paper, that is). For instance, look at Sony's VGN-Z540EBB. That Book is pretty comparable to the Air, spec-wise. It's currently $1849 directly from Sony. That $50 more than a new MacBook Air, directly from Apple, right?

So what hardware can these additional $50 buy?

- a 2.40 GHz CPU over the Air's 1,6 GHz one
- a 320 GB hard drive.
- DVD writer built-in
- 3 GB RAM installed
- a HDMI port built in
- a VGA port built in
- a FireWire port built in
- an ExpressCard Slot
- a second USB port
- an Ethernet port built in
- an analog modem built in
- 9 additional months of free telephone support
- a card reader built in
- stereo speakers built in (supposedly?)

A pretty good deal for a mere 50 bucks, ain't it? :rolleyes:

Lenovo also has some competitive models, relatively aggressively priced. I fully agree with this review I read today, stating that the MacBook Air should be priced at $1599, at the most. $1499 would be a "comparatively reasonable price" to me. But not more than that (see above). At $1799 I feel overcharged. Especially by Apple making all these adapters for VGA, DVI and Ethernet optional. These three adapters cost like 10 bucks to make. But I'm supposed to shell out almost $100 for really basic connectivity !?

No thanks Apple. :mad:

it doesn't have OSX and it's a deal killer for me.

[KamiNoYadoru]

It's also twice as thick as the MBA, about half a pound heavier, nowhere near as attractive IMO, and any "perks" on the hardware such as trackpad features or ambient light sensing are dependent on how well they integrate with windows, as opposed to the very smooth operation you get from the MBA.

Don't try and claim that the Z exposes the MBA for being overpriced when there are several things that the MBA does that the Z doesn't or can't, completely outside of OSX vs. Windows.

The Envy 133 comes close in the design department but still falls very short when it comes to that integrated OS + hardware package and all the little additions that makes using apple hardware so smooth, and until they update the specs, actually costs more than the MBA for inferior specs.

The real key to this discussion and this argument is that complaining about the MBA being overpriced when NOBODY else is offering the same package OUTSIDE of the OS choice (I like OSX, but I am in no way married to it) rings false. If the MBA's strong points don't appeal to you, fine, there are other laptops for you. However, if they do, there's nothing else that comes close right now, so don't attempt to tell me what those features are worth to me. It's cool if it's not the computer for you.

[AppliedMicro]

it doesn't have OSX and it's a deal killer for me.For me too.
Don't try and claim that the Z exposes the MBA for being overpriced when there are several things that the MBA does that the Z doesn't or can't, completely outside of OSX vs. Windows.
But these are minor things.

For a start, I suppose the Air's trackpad capabilities / gestures are handled in software (OS X). And there isn't much else what can be done with the Air but cannot with Sony cannot. Magsafe maybe...? Keyboard backlighting is just a nice-to-have, as is its design. And don't get me started on what you can do with the FireWire port, as opposed to the Air. The discussion is all over this forum.

So what's supposed to be so unique about the Air? :confused:

Now please don't get me wrong.
I like the MacBook Air as a product. I really do.
It's almost perfect as a product, if you ask me.
It has got about anything I would want in a notebook (including design and form factor).

But I still can't help but feel that it's another case of Apple-ish overpricing.
Not even the backlit keyboard is worth so many $.
I stand by that point.
In any case, it clearly shows in the optional connectivity department:
$87 plus tax for basic VGA / DVI / Ethernet connectivity?!

Only passive rewiring and the right connectors are necessary for the graphics.
And to make matters worse, the DVI adapter is DVI-D only, even though they could easily have made it a DVI-I.
That's what I call a corporate rip-off.

Seriously... who would call that "comparatively reasonable" pricing?!

[gooddeal]

I just don't understand why people keep posting/arguing on something they know they don't need/want. If you don't appreciate the thinnest/design of the Air (OS X?), the Air is not for you. If you can live w/ an I4 engine, you wouldn't be able to understand why people spend more money to get a V6 engine plus they need to spend more money on gas.:mad:

[KamiNoYadoru]

For me too.

And don't get me started on what you can do with the FireWire port

I don't use firewire.


So what's supposed to be so unique about the Air? :confused:



But I still can't help but feel that it's another case of Apple-ish overpricing.
Not even the backlit keyboard is worth so many $.
I stand by that point.

Show me another laptop that's as thin, light, and well-engineered as the air with as powerful specs, and as good and big a display, keyboard, and trackpad for less money.


In any case, it clearly shows in the optional connectivity department:
$87 plus tax for basic VGA / DVI / Ethernet connectivity?!


I have a good wireless network wherever I go (my iphone suffices when wifi is not an option) and I never hook my lapper up to an external display, and when I do, it will be to a 24" LED ACD. So what do I care what it costs for ports that I never use? If you do, you might not find the MBA worth the money. I don't, and I do.


That's what I call a corporate rip-off.

Seriously... who would call that "comparatively reasonable" pricing?!

I don't care about ports, and the MBA has no competitor that can do everything it can do, be it windows or OSX, and the closest competitor costs more. The guy above me has it right.

[AppliedMicro]

Show me another laptop that's as thin, light
There are few, if any. But the Air design itself isn't all that remarkable, considering that Apple just cut features from other notebooks.

the MBA has no competitor that can do everything it can do
OK, now I really want to get this, but I just can't. So please, anyone tell me:

what is it that competing notebooks can't supposedly do? :confused:

Nitpicking aside; so please don't tell me about a few trackpad gestures or how the Air is just that critical half an inch slimmer to fit into something at your place.

[MacsBestFriend]

i'm glad that apple doesn't include the optical drive on MBA, that thing is ancient dude!

i hope macbook and macbook pro will not have optical drive and just include the external superdrive, it will be less weight and much thinner laptops.

An optical drive will become obsolete when all CD's and DVD's are on solid state cards you plug into your TV, possibly when USB 3 comes out. Optical drives will become obsolete when other game companies use the iTunes method and sell video games wirelessly. This is going to be the future of media, it's going to be here, come three more years...

[TheReef]

They could have fit an extra USB, a Firewire, or with some more work even an express card slot on the left side :rolleyes:

[UltraNEO*]

i'm glad that apple doesn't include the optical drive on MBA, that thing is ancient dude!

i hope macbook and macbook pro will not have optical drive and just include the external superdrive, it will be less weight and much thinner laptops.

You know what would be even better? If they created a self-recovery partition on the HD. This way they won't need a external optical drive, either! But you'll lose like 10Gb to system backups! Can you afford that on a already tiny drive?

[aleni]

You know what would be even better? If they created a self-recovery partition on the HD. This way they won't need a external optical drive, either! But you'll lose like 10Gb to system backups! Can you afford that on a already tiny drive?

can't afford to lose any more HD space. it's better installing the air over the remote disc, or better supply a recovery disk in a usb flash disk and sell it for $5 (apple subsidized price). i would buy it without a thinking.

[UltraNEO*]

can't afford to lose any more HD space. it's better installing the air over the remote disc, or better supply a recovery disk in a usb flash disk and sell it for $5 (apple subsidized price). i would buy it without a thinking.

You could create one yourself...

[aleni]

You could create one yourself...

could u give a link for the tutorial. i will be gladly to do it.

[dougelo7]

could u give a link for the tutorial. i will be gladly to do it.

You would insert the disk into either the MBA SuperDrive or a Remote Disk computer; also you could use a non-MBA Mac to do this, but you couldn't use a standalone PC (you'd need MBA to oversee the procedure):

Insert the Mac OS X Install DVD, then open Disk Utility in the already-installed operating system (don't boot from the DVD). Select the disk and click New Image, then select DVD Master, then continue (I forget the exact button names, but they're somewhere close to what I just listed). Save the new image to the thumb drive in question.

After the computer finishes you've got you're bootable USB copy of Leopard that you can conveniently install on your MacBook Air. :)

(BTW I think you'd need like an 8GB thumb drive - Leopard is 4GB and then some.)

[aleni]

You would insert the disk into either the MBA SuperDrive or a Remote Disk computer; also you could use a non-MBA Mac to do this, but you couldn't use a standalone PC (you'd need MBA to oversee the procedure):

Insert the Mac OS X Install DVD, then open Disk Utility in the already-installed operating system (don't boot from the DVD). Select the disk and click New Image, then select DVD Master, then continue (I forget the exact button names, but they're somewhere close to what I just listed). Save the new image to the thumb drive in question.

After the computer finishes you've got you're bootable USB copy of Leopard that you can conveniently install on your MacBook Air. :)

(BTW I think you'd need like an 8GB thumb drive - Leopard is 4GB and then some.)

oh sweet dude! i almost buy the superdrive just to install the OS incase something bad happens. but until now, nothing happens that needs the reinstall if the OS. thanks! :D

[KamiNoYadoru]

There are few, if any. But the Air design itself isn't all that remarkable, considering that Apple just cut features from other notebooks.


Exactly. There are no competitors who can do what the air does in the same space at the same price. You lament over the lack of features I don't care about, so it's remarkable that they're gone, making the end product more capable for what *I* need it for and slimmer and lighter than anything else out there.

OK, now I really want to get this, but I just can't. So please, anyone tell me:

what is it that competing notebooks can't supposedly do? :confused:

Nitpicking aside; so please don't tell me about a few trackpad gestures or how the Air is just that critical half an inch slimmer to fit into something at your place.

I don't think you get it at all. The fact that the MBA is extremely slim and light IS what the other notebooks can't do. You're touching it, you're carrying it around, how it feels and how it works IS a feature just like the screen and keyboard are. The fact that it's a fully functional and capable notebook (at least the rev2s are) with a high end feel in a thin, sleek package IS what makes it unique. I've used other notebooks, other ultraportables, other Macbooks, and nothing feels as good as the Air. I don't give a **** about what features it's missing because what it does RIGHT nothing else does. Your whole point was ZOMG OVERPRICED RAGE~ and what you fail to see is that for someone who appreciates what it does do, nothing else can measure up. Nitpicking? Not on your ****ing life.

[KamiNoYadoru]

oh sweet dude! i almost buy the superdrive just to install the OS incase something bad happens. but until now, nothing happens that needs the reinstall if the OS. thanks! :D

That is brilliant, I never thought of that. I might have to do this as well.

[twist2b]

I don't even have to rampage on something stupid. I will just show you a link and you figure out:
1. Why the MBA is the price it is
2. Why the MBA is the BEST portable when it comes to specs and size
3. Why you can't find ANY other deal like the AIR:

http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/laptop-inspiron-9?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
Just check out the $449 specs and you tell me why the AIR PWNS ALL.

Also, note that the air is over 4 times as powerful and about 4 times the price.



SSD - Get it in your head that its still expensive, ESPECIALLY 128 GB NEW version. If the SSD was cheaper (and hopefully it will be soon) the Air would be cheaper.

Thats all I am going to say for now.

[ppc750fx]

what is it that competing notebooks can't supposedly do? :confused:

Nitpicking aside; so please don't tell me about a few trackpad gestures or how the Air is just that critical half an inch slimmer to fit into something at your place.

No, we will tell you about those features, because they are what make the notebook what it is.

You can argue they're not important features for you (and at least for me, they aren't,) but for some people they are -- and for those people, those are precisely the things that "competing notebooks can't supposedly do."

Oh, and trackpad gestures aren't just a software thing -- there's got to be some level of hardware support to detect multiple contact points.

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The Gallery on the Apple Store site shows what appears to be a security lock slot on each side of the latest MacAir revision. Would one of you be so kind as to confirm that there is at least one?