Windows 7 Taskbar = Mac OS X Dock

[jav6454]

Ok, I didn't know where to put this so, here it is. Mods, excuse me for putting this wrong if I did.

So Microsoft unveiled Windows 7. Looks snappy just as Vista did in the beginning. However, I couldn't stop noticing a feature we all here enjoy in our beloved MacBooks, Mac Pros, iMacs and Mac Minis.

Windows 7 has a Taskbar that has big icons in which windows minimize to the taskbar. I'm sure pretty much by now everyone got the idea, Redmond fired up its photocopiers on the Dock. Yes, its true. Just saw the tour of it. It is very similar, the Microsoft employee made a note that a comment was raised regarding this; however, he responded its copied from Windows 1.0, 95 and XP (I called that BS).

What else has Microsoft copied from OS X? Or did they finally finished Vista? Be the judge.

PS - Please don't bash me for wrong forum.

[Primejimbo]

I don't think it looks like OS X

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081028-first-look-at-windows-7.html

[NT1440]

i think its basically the same idea, just implemented differently

I wouldnt call it a direct rip off.

Was apple even the creater of the dock idea?

[jav6454]

i think its basically the same idea, just implemented differently

I wouldnt call it a direct rip off.

Was apple even the creater of the dock idea?

Not Apple, Steve was when he was with NEXT. The dock just carried into OSX due to the implementations NEXT brought.

[DannyBres]

Nope it was Nextstep by NeXT Computer that first had the dock..... which Steve made in his time away from apple and became the basis of OSX i believe

EDIT: damn u beat me to it....

[mikeyr0x]

Looks more like the kde dock to me

[mcdj]

one thing the W7 "dock" does that I always wished the OSX dock did is toggle the window of running apps...click a dock icon to minimize an open window, click again to maximize the window.

[richard.mac]

i think its basically the same idea, just implemented differently

I wouldnt call it a direct rip off.

Was apple even the creater of the dock idea?

NeXT created the Dock. Steve Jobs created NeXT. Apple purchased NeXT.

[NT1440]

NeXT created the Dock. Steve Jobs created NeXT. Apple purchased NeXT.

Id chalk that up as an apple creation then.

[chill.]

lay off the kool-aid kids, everyone in the tech business has copied things from each other and apple is no different.

contrary to popular belief, apple has ripped a lot off for their original operating system (xerox), chiclet keyboard (sony), jonathan ives design (dieter rams), etc. etc. and those people probably got the ideas from somewhere else beforehand

stop worrying about who thought of what idea first and appreciate the work that has been built iteratively upon the efforts of others

[Piaget]

The Peek feature looks quite convenient. Here's a link my bro sent me: http://lifehacker.com/5075076/new-windows-7-taskbar-peek-feature-look-awesome

Edit: I just realized that this topic is in the Macbook/Ibook subforum, doesn't seem right. Mods might want to move this.

[brotherben]

I don't know, I'm biased so I don't like it, But the biggest thing that pisses me off that they copied is their "gadgets" I mean they even got the name close to widgets. :mad:

[acfusion29]

lay off the kool-aid kids, everyone in the tech business has copied things from each other and apple is no different.

contrary to popular belief, apple has ripped a lot off for their original operating system (xerox), chiclet keyboard (sony), jonathan ives design (dieter rams), etc. etc. and those people probably got the ideas from somewhere else beforehand

stop worrying about who thought of what idea first and appreciate the work that has been built iteratively upon the efforts of others

sony and apple are friends though :p

[trekkie604]

I don't know, I'm biased so I don't like it, But the biggest thing that pisses me off that they copied is their "gadgets" I mean they even got the name close to widgets. :mad:

Where do you think Apple got the name "Fast User Switching"?

[jaytv111]

I don't know, I'm biased so I don't like it, But the biggest thing that pisses me off that they copied is their "gadgets" I mean they even got the name close to widgets. :mad:

Um, are you kidding me? Konfabulator was out long before OS X had it. I think they were even called widgets in Konfabulator.

[SHADO]

The Windows 7 "launch bar" is basically the Tiger dock...so I would call it copying to a certain degree (and yes i no apple has done it too).

[chagla]

Ok, I didn't know where to put this so, here it is. Mods, excuse me for putting this wrong if I did.

So Microsoft unveiled Windows 7. Looks snappy just as Vista did in the beginning. However, I couldn't stop noticing a feature we all here enjoy in our beloved MacBooks, Mac Pros, iMacs and Mac Minis.

Windows 7 has a Taskbar that has big icons in which windows minimize to the taskbar. I'm sure pretty much by now everyone got the idea, Redmond fired up its photocopiers on the Dock. Yes, its true. Just saw the tour of it. It is very similar, the Microsoft employee made a note that a comment was raised regarding this; however, he responded its copied from Windows 1.0, 95 and XP (I called that BS).

What else has Microsoft copied from OS X? Or did they finally finished Vista? Be the judge.

PS - Please don't bash me for wrong forum.

yah, i wonder why all the tires are round you know. why this random person has two ears like me. must be a copycat.

but having used both mac and windows, i can confidently say that your assumptions is wrong. the windows taskbar has been there like forever. it does not work like the mac dock at all. the only difference now is that they are going to magnify it, (ie - make the icons bigger).

so no my friend. taskbar =/= dock.

you'll be surprised to know that if one wants have some validity in their arguments, they usually do some research prior to presenting it.

thanks.

[brand]

Id chalk that up as an apple creation then.

So then by your thinking, if Microsoft bought Apple that would mean that Microsoft created OSX, the iPod and everything else Apple created. Try again.

[chilipie]

but having used both mac and windows, i can confidently say that your assumptions is wrong. the windows taskbar has been there like forever. it does not work like the mac dock at all. the only difference now is that they are going to magnify it, (ie - make the icons bigger).

so no my friend. taskbar =/= dock.

you'll be surprised to know that if one wants have some validity in their arguments, they usually do some research prior to presenting it.

That would be because everyone is talking about Windows 7, in which the taskbar is application based (as in OS X), rather than previous versions of Windows where the taskbar was task based.

Read the thread properly before getting snarky with people ;)

[prostuff1]

This is a vast improvement over the XP taskbar. I don't have much experience with the Vista one but i assume it is very similar (except for previews of windows) to the XP one.

The way i see this is that, like someone else said, the taskbar has become much more application based. And it is the application icons that acts as the taskbar when the app has been launched.

The peek feature is kinda nice to. I do something similar in OS X already with expose>all windows. This little "shortcut" work some of the time, but as i open more windows it becomes impossible to read texts in exposed windows.

[akm3]

NeXT created the Dock. Steve Jobs created NeXT. Apple purchased NeXT.

Steve created Apple.
God Created Steve.
God Created Dinosaurs.
God kills dinosaurs.
Man creates dinosaurs
Dinosaurs kill man,
Women inherit the Earth?

[patrick0brien]

Everybody does borrow cues from everybody else, heck you know what they say about flattery...

Some 'copies' are more blatant than others, and I feel the those copies that are so bald-faced that the copy's implementation, or even name difference required so little creativity is what folks really rail at.

If you dig deep enough, copying can be attributed to everything .

Ex. "Hey! You used Iron in that design! Copycat!!!"

Perhaps the line could conceivably be drawn at the point that if, at first glance, the educated can immediately see (feel, use) the resemblance of a preexisting thing.

For the record, Apple's Macintosh (Lisa) GUI was created in-house at Apple after engineers saw Xerox Star at a demo. Star, due to an FTC ruling was not very patentable. Ergo, kind of a muddy area of IP. What then happened was Apple did implement patents on their creation.

It's a fuzzy line, but a simplification could be said that Apple copied Star, and MS ripped off Apple (Apple lost the lawsuit)