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rezonat0r
Nov 3, 2008, 10:49 PM
I did this for the Macbook Pro's a while back, but I'm a Macbook guy now. There are a few other threads with profiles but it's no good if you use a profile made from a different panel than what you have. I'm just trying to consolidate things here.

I will try to keep this post current; please only submit profiles created from hardware, not those done by human eye (meatware?) :) And be sure to say which panel the profile is for. Thanks to everyone for contributing and improving the Macbook experience!

How to determine your panel type/code (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=6546056&postcount=20)
How to install and use color profiles (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=6501796&postcount=39)

Basic tests to determine if a profile is a good fit:

Black level (http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php)
White level (http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/white.php)
Gamma (http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/gamma_calibration.php)


9C89 (LG)

See attachment (rezonat0r-9c89.zip)
Spyder3 Pro. 2.2 Gamma, Native and 6500K whitepoint. I recommend using the Native whitepoint.

See attachment (rezonat0r-9c89-alt.zip)
Spyder3 Pro. 2.2 Gamma, Native whitepoint. This is an alternate profile made from another Macbook with the LG panel. It is similar to the previous but slightly darker
jessica's profile (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=6502002&postcount=43)
Spyder2 Pro. 2.2 Gamma. Native whitepoint (I think - not confirmed)


9C8C (AU Optronics)

See attachment (rezonat0r-9c8c.zip)
Spyder3 Pro. 2.2 Gamma. I only did a calibration at native whitepoint (honestly, if you really need 6500K then you won't be using a Macbook screen, or any laptop screen for that matter) :)


9C8A

See attachment (rezonat0r-9c8a.zip)
Spyder3 Pro. 2.2 Gamma. Native whitepoint.



iMac430
Nov 3, 2008, 11:03 PM
I have tried many different times with SuperCal and the built-in tool, but I cannot get a good calibration. I have the 9C5E screen. I hope that you can get a profile soon. Thanks!

oli84
Nov 3, 2008, 11:45 PM
Pick up kis's color profile that was put up on the other thread you were referencing. Created with spyder3 in dark room but not sure what panel he had.

iMac430
Nov 3, 2008, 11:46 PM
The thread that I created or which one?

oli84
Nov 3, 2008, 11:49 PM
The thread that I created or which one?

Page 3 of this one:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=588431

rezonat0r
Nov 3, 2008, 11:51 PM
Pick up kis's color profile that was put up on the other thread you were referencing. Created with spyder3 in dark room but not sure what panel he had.

Thanks, I have read through that thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=588431) but no one has indicated which panel they have yet. We'll get it sorted soon enough. :)

iMac430
Nov 3, 2008, 11:57 PM
I tried that profile and it looks alright, but it is still somewhat washed out. I clicked "open profile" in System Preferences, but since it was made with the Spyder and not ColorSync, I cannot find the actual model. I have the 9C5E. Thanks for the help thus far.

panzaman
Nov 4, 2008, 01:50 AM
On my 8c9c I am using this profile, it was made by somebody else but it works great on my MB.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=588431&page=3

post #69

RUnited
Nov 4, 2008, 02:06 AM
1. I use Bootcamp to go into Windows XP. Will this display profile change also affects the XP display? If not, can someone please post on how to apply these calibrations to Windows XP?

2. I use 9C89 screen, which one is the best profile? I see one here from the thread started, but many people have said the "JC Display" profile is also very good. If anyone has tried both please confirm which is the good one to use.

Thank you!

staccato83
Nov 4, 2008, 02:12 AM
1. I use Bootcamp to go into Windows XP. Will this display profile change also affects the XP display? If not, can someone please post on how to apply these calibrations to Windows XP?

2. I use 9C89 screen, which one is the best profile? I see one here from the thread started, but many people have said the "JC Display" profile is also very good. If anyone has tried both please confirm which is the good one to use.

Thank you!

Not sure about your first question, but I would definitely recommend the "JC display" profile. The other profiles seem to have a green tint to them... atleast to my eyes.

RUnited
Nov 4, 2008, 02:39 AM
Not sure about your first question, but I would definitely recommend the "JC display" profile. The other profiles seem to have a green tint to them... atleast to my eyes.

Thanks for that.

I'm usually just playing games on my new MB so if anyone has a clue about changing the calibration for Windows that would be great.

Philflow
Nov 4, 2008, 02:41 AM
Not sure about your first question, but I would definitely recommend the "JC display" profile. The other profiles seem to have a green tint to them... atleast to my eyes.

Same here. That was the best one I tried because it enhanced contrast. It was a bit dark though.

watergun
Nov 4, 2008, 05:14 AM
On my 8c9c I am using this profile, it was made by somebody else but it works great on my MB.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=588431&page=3

post #69

+1 --> I like that profile the best on my 8c9c too. :D

scienide09
Nov 4, 2008, 09:38 AM
Thanks for your efforts.

I'd be interested in seeing what you've got for the 9C8C, since that's what's in my MacBook.

PresentACat
Nov 4, 2008, 09:59 AM
I got the 9C8C screen and got a calibration that worked eventually.

Set the Macbook in its box, and adjust some selotape until it seals the box up. Then, ring Apple to send TNT to remove the damned thing from your house. Contrast improves dramatically when you do this. Finish the calibration off by buying the cheapest laptop you can find and wondering why it has better blacks.

phobic99
Nov 4, 2008, 10:11 AM
I got the 9C8C screen and got a calibration that worked eventually.

Set the Macbook in its box, and adjust some selotape until it seals the box up. Then, ring Apple to send TNT to remove the damned thing from your house. Contrast improves dramatically when you do this. Finish the calibration off by buying the cheapest laptop you can find and wondering why it has better blacks.

Very informative. Will read again.

RUnited
Nov 4, 2008, 10:59 AM
On my 8c9c I am using this profile, it was made by somebody else but it works great on my MB.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=588431&page=3

post #69

Gets a +1 from me too this profile. I'm using 9C89 but my wife and I agree this looks the best when going through our photos.

Thanks a bunch.

silverblack
Nov 4, 2008, 11:34 AM
I got the 9C8C screen and got a calibration that worked eventually.

Set the Macbook in its box, and adjust some selotape until it seals the box up. Then, ring Apple to send TNT to remove the damned thing from your house. Contrast improves dramatically when you do this. Finish the calibration off by buying the cheapest laptop you can find and wondering why it has better blacks.

Buying the cheapest laptop that I can find? No, thanks. I'd rather have a monochrome display on my Macbook than a Sony LCD-quality display on a Vista laptop.

Ryan T.
Nov 4, 2008, 11:51 AM
+1 --> I like that profile the best on my 8c9c too. :D

+1 another vote for this on the 9c8c display!

rezonat0r
Nov 4, 2008, 11:58 AM
On my 8c9c I am using this profile, it was made by somebody else but it works great on my MB.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=588431&page=3

post #69

You mean 9C8C, correct?

kis's profile is actually very similar to my profile for 9C89 (LG), only ever so slightly darker... Perhaps these screens are surprisingly similar.

I'm still waiting to hear from kis to be sure of the panel type and whitepoint settings.

everlast77
Nov 4, 2008, 12:40 PM
Same here. That was the best one I tried because it enhanced contrast. It was a bit dark though.


Can someone do a profile like the (JC screen profile), only a little bit brighter ?

//everlast

Bengt77
Nov 4, 2008, 01:56 PM
Can someone do a profile like the (JC screen profile), only a little bit brighter ?

//everlast
You can do that yourself. Open the profile, turn the Gamma a wee bit down, save the profile and you're set.

oli84
Nov 4, 2008, 01:58 PM
You mean 9C8C, correct?

kis's profile is actually very similar to my profile for 9C89 (LG), only ever so slightly darker... Perhaps these screens are surprisingly similar.

I'm still waiting to hear from kis to be sure of the panel type and whitepoint settings.

kis's profile has a cooler overall tint to it. The profile you posted on the top of the thread is much closer to the factory settings, like you said. In general though, have you noticed if it's a warmer or cooler tint that comes with other Macs?

Also, what conditions did you calibrate the screen under?

rezonat0r
Nov 4, 2008, 02:25 PM
You can do that yourself. Open the profile, turn the Gamma a wee bit down, save the profile and you're set.

Be sure to check if the displayed gamma is correct (at 2.2) using the link I provided. The 48% test is the most important. The other ones won't be perfect due to limitations of the screen.

kis's profile has a cooler overall tint to it. The profile you posted on the top of the thread is much closer to the factory settings, like you said. In general though, have you noticed if it's a warmer or cooler tint that comes with other Macs?

With LED backlighting the LEDs emit a blueish hue. Obviously there is correction built into the screen to compensate but my feeling was that there was still a slight blue tint out of the box. The Spyder3 confirms this (calibrated in a dark room at full backlight) as the profiles it made me are warmer. Now greys look very neutral to my eye.

Every screen is different, and no two Spyders will produce the exact same results either. But I will say that if you put on a profile and there is a huge change, that is probably not correct, unless you are going from native white point to 6500K.

marsbaby
Nov 4, 2008, 02:50 PM
I just got MB today, calibrated my screen with spider. Wiith a tat of extra contrast I have very decent result indeed. Difference with default color profile is big. Thought of posting color profile with appropriate info but strangely do not seem to have display indication?

rezonat0r
Nov 4, 2008, 02:53 PM
Thought of posting color profile with appropriate info but strangely do not seem to have display indication?

Make sure you're looking at the original "Color LCD" profile, your Spyder profile won't have the display code. Also which Spyder do you have?

Diversion
Nov 4, 2008, 03:34 PM
Hey Rezonat0r,

I'd recommend pulling down the 9C5E panel from your original post - people are just using color profiles from people who had the 9C5E and claiming it as their own.. I too, did the same because I didn't realize someone elses profile had their screen info too.

There's a command you can type out (or cut and paste) into a Terminal window that will report the LCD info straight from the hardware and leaves no room for speculation. I will try to find that command and post it up for you.

As far as I know, there's only two panels being used in the new Aluminum MacBooks.

rezonat0r
Nov 4, 2008, 05:44 PM
Hey Rezonat0r,

I'd recommend pulling down the 9C5E panel from your original post - people are just using color profiles from people who had the 9C5E and claiming it as their own..

Thanks, I did this. Two panels is better than three.

Let us know if you find those commands. The four character code we are referring to may be Apple specific, but it would be interesting nonetheless.

jessica.
Nov 6, 2008, 09:43 AM
This post here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=6502002&postcount=43) has the color profile that I created (3rd attempt) with Spyder2 Pro. I had the 9C89 (LG) display.

rezonat0r
Nov 6, 2008, 04:25 PM
This post here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=6502002&postcount=43) has the color profile that I created (3rd attempt) with Spyder2 Pro. I had the 9C89 (LG) display.

Thanks, I'll add this. Just to be sure, is this 2.2 gamma at native white point? I forget if the Spyder2 defaults to native or 6500K color temp.

Charlesrking
Nov 14, 2008, 12:41 AM
Oh god, NM. I'm delirious.

daneoni
Nov 14, 2008, 05:51 AM
This is mine...i dont think many will like it but this is how i think OS X looks originally on a good display

its a 2.4 Gamma and its for a 9C89

rezonat0r
Nov 14, 2008, 02:23 PM
This is mine...i dont think many will like it but this is how i think OS X looks originally on a good display

its a 2.4 Gamma and its for a 9C89

Thanks, what hardware created this?

VSMacOne
Nov 14, 2008, 02:44 PM
I dont know.... I tried all the profiles listed on this site, and I am not as happy as I am with the original one... Am I just weird, or is my screen just that good? All other profiles seem to add different tints or brightness that bothers me... :confused:

daneoni
Nov 14, 2008, 02:46 PM
Thanks, what hardware created this?

Colorsync

rezonat0r
Nov 14, 2008, 03:10 PM
I dont know.... I tried all the profiles listed on this site, and I am not as happy as I am with the original one... Am I just weird, or is my screen just that good? All other profiles seem to add different tints or brightness that bothers me... :confused:

You can't really trust your eyes to make a snap decision, because they have already adapted to the factory default. You have to use a profile for a while and then go back to the original and decide. What you should be looking for are neutral greys, and that can take some experience to determine quickly.

VSMacOne
Nov 14, 2008, 03:21 PM
You can't really trust your eyes to make a snap decision, because they have already adapted to the factory default. You have to use a profile for a while and then go back to the original and decide. What you should be looking for are neutral greys, and that can take some experience to determine quickly.

Neutral grays? Explain....
The closest one i almost picked had horrible blacks... But if this is fine for me, why not stick with it? Movies are ok, browsing looks ok... Am I really that weird?:eek:

ryanfong
Nov 14, 2008, 03:34 PM
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=588431&highlight=calibration&page=3

the calibration in post 56 is the best so far...for me...

rezonat0r
Nov 14, 2008, 03:35 PM
Neutral grays? Explain....
The closest one i almost picked had horrible blacks... But if this is fine for me, why not stick with it? Movies are ok, browsing looks ok... Am I really that weird?:eek:

Neutral greys mean R=G=B. Calibration brings the R, G and B channels in line with each other. From the factory one or more channels is slightly higher or lower than the others. No one says you have to use another profile than the default one Apple provides. :)

dougnewman
Nov 18, 2008, 11:58 PM
I have a 9C89 display and made this profile with a GretagMacbeth i1 Display (replaced by the i1Display 2, now branded as an X-Rite product after its takeover of GretagMacbeth or whatever its parent company was called).

iMac430
Nov 19, 2008, 12:03 AM
I have a 9C89 display and made this profile with a GretagMacbeth i1 Display (replaced by the i1Display 2, now branded as an X-Rite product after its takeover of GretagMacbeth or whatever its parent company was called).

What profile? Did you attatch it cause I don't see it?

Thanks

dougnewman
Nov 19, 2008, 12:18 AM
What profile? Did you attatch it cause I don't see it?Hmm, that seems to have not worked. Let's try this again.

Edit: Seems to have worked this time.

Bengt77
Nov 19, 2008, 10:36 AM
I calibrated my display, too. Not with any fancy hardware, just by vision, using ColorSync. Can anyone compare these two with the other profiles and tell me if I've done a good job or not? Thanks. I have the 9C89 display, by the way.

gotzaiPhone
Nov 19, 2008, 06:53 PM
rezonat0r:

I have been lurking here for a year since I got my first iPhone, but have never felt that I needed to post until now. I just recently got my new al mac book 2.4 and though I wasn't upset with the screen, I felt it could be better. So lurking here, I saw this thread and read up on your hardware configs for the screen. So I downloaded your calibration profile and it is soo much better! The blacks look black and the colors have a natural tone to them, so I wanted to say

THANK YOU!

nope7308
Nov 22, 2008, 01:39 PM
Hi Everyone,

I'm looking for a colour calibration profile for the 9C8A Alu Macbook screen. I don't know much about calibration, but the whites on this computer are WAY off. Everything looks washed out.

I returned a defective unibody MBP, and the screen on that machine was considerably better than this one. I'm actually a little worried - I expected some difference in quality, but this one is substantial. Hopefully it's just a calibration problem, but apparently, no MBs have the 9C8A...?

Any help would be greatly appreciated! :D

kabunaru
Nov 22, 2008, 01:56 PM
Hi Everyone,

I'm looking for a colour calibration profile for the 9C8A Alu Macbook screen. I don't know much about calibration, but the whites on this computer are WAY off. Everything looks washed out.

I returned a defective unibody MBP, and the screen on that machine was considerably better than this one. I'm actually a little worried - I expected some difference in quality, but this one is substantial. Hopefully it's just a calibration problem, but apparently, no MBs have the 9C8A...?

Any help would be greatly appreciated! :D

Try this one:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=6642251&postcount=8

VSMacOne
Nov 22, 2008, 02:10 PM
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=6646379#post6646379

Try the one i posted in this thread. I DIDN"T MAKE IT so the credit for that goes to someone else, but I can't remember where i got it from...
best one i've found so far IMO

dougnewman
Nov 23, 2008, 12:30 AM
I have a 9C89 display and made this profile with a GretagMacbeth i1 Display (replaced by the i1Display 2, now branded as an X-Rite product after its takeover of GretagMacbeth or whatever its parent company was called).This profile has a very, very strange flaw.

Color-managed applications (like Photoshop) don't display the color red with it.

I'm serious; if I open up Photoshop's color palette when I'm using this profile, values that should look red look orange instead.

And yet it can display red as long as it's not color-managed (for example, using Safari to open an image that doesn't have a color profile attached to it).

I obviously had to stop using it once I realized this since something must be very wrong with it.

For the time being I've gone back to using the default profile, which doesn't look any worse than any of the other profiles anyone's posted on here.

Frankly this display looks awful no matter what profile I use. I hate it.

cellocello
Nov 27, 2008, 10:22 PM
rezonat0r:

I have been lurking here for a year since I got my first iPhone, but have never felt that I needed to post until now. I just recently got my new al mac book 2.4 and though I wasn't upset with the screen, I felt it could be better. So lurking here, I saw this thread and read up on your hardware configs for the screen. So I downloaded your calibration profile and it is soo much better! The blacks look black and the colors have a natural tone to them, so I wanted to say

THANK YOU!

I agree. I just installed the color profile for my monitor, and it looks really good.

Thanks!

rezonat0r
Nov 28, 2008, 10:49 PM
Well, I have another Macbook in the house and this one has the AUO (9C8C) panel instead of the LG. I have added my profile for this one to my original post in this thread. Enjoy!

I set the two up side by side and took some pictures just for fun. The AUO is on the left, LG on the right. These are both post-calibration at maximum brightness in a fairly dark room.

http://htcalibration.com/pics/macbook-earth.jpg
http://htcalibration.com/pics/macbook-fish.jpg
http://htcalibration.com/pics/macbook-bars.jpg

As you can see, the viewing angles (or lack thereof) are almost identical, as evidenced by the symmetry of the off-angle glows in the Earth pics. If anything, it looks to me like the AUO might have a very slight edge (a bit less glow) but the camera picks up on this more than the eye. In terms of contrast, again the AUO might have a slight edge, but this is splitting hairs.

In reality only the camera reveals these possible differences. I make no claims that this was a scientific test. :)

If you have an AUO panel and are not happy with it, try the profile and you may be pleasantly surprised, as I was. These are both equally solid panels after proper setup.

Jinsou
Nov 30, 2008, 09:40 PM
Gets a +1 from me too this profile. I'm using 9C89 but my wife and I agree this looks the best when going through our photos.

Thanks a bunch.

I am using this profile on my 9c89 as well and It's my fav!!
thanks for this 1+

rezonat0r
Dec 1, 2008, 10:55 PM
I returned a defective unibody MBP, and the screen on that machine was considerably better than this one. I'm actually a little worried - I expected some difference in quality, but this one is substantial. Hopefully it's just a calibration problem, but apparently, no MBs have the 9C8A...?

Interesting. No, I haven't seen many mentions of a 9C8A screen, but I believe they could be out there. Is your Macbook a 2.0 or 2.4 Ghz model?

Jisuo
Dec 4, 2008, 01:26 PM
I just got my MB 2.0 today and I checked my monitor and saw that I had 9C8B, and I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere? Which calibration should I use?

Btw I'm a first time mac user. Breaking new ground. :D

VSMacOne
Dec 4, 2008, 03:19 PM
I just got my MB 2.0 today and I checked my monitor and saw that I had 9C8B, and I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere? Which calibration should I use?

Btw I'm a first time mac user. Breaking new ground. :D

Just try out a few of them and see whatever works for you personally.

Jisuo
Dec 4, 2008, 03:58 PM
Just try out a few of them and see whatever works for you personally.

I tried to find he folder as said in this post:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=6496306&postcount=5

But I don't have a folder called ColorSync in my Library folder? Should I just create it?


update: Now ColorSync > Profiles appeared, but nothing more. Not the subfolder Displays in Profiles.

update2: nevermind, I just read you could put it there aswell. Works! :)

rezonat0r
Dec 5, 2008, 09:36 PM
Hey again, well my Macbook with the AUO panel went back to Apple due to an unrelated keyboard issue... the replacement has the LG panel, but its slightly different (as all panels are).

I added its profile as an "alternate" to the OP. When I load my original profile with this new screen, things are still a tad washed out. What that probably means is that the new screen's gamma is a bit more off from the factory. So if you're finding your screen still slightly washed out try the "alternate" profile I made from the new screen.

Jisuo
Dec 5, 2008, 10:40 PM
I tried the posted profiles that people liked, but they all looked craptacular IMO! So did my on calibration using the built in tool in OS X and got it how I wanted it. Happy camper! :D

rezonat0r
Dec 5, 2008, 11:11 PM
I tried the posted profiles that people liked, but they all looked craptacular IMO! So did my on calibration using the built in tool in OS X and got it how I wanted it. Happy camper! :D

What specifically was "craptacular"? Did you give your eyes time to adjust, or just make a snap judgement? Which panel do you have? Have you verified proper black and white level using the links I provided?

etc., etc... :D

Jisuo
Dec 6, 2008, 05:40 AM
Yes, I checked the links. I've got the new (I think?) 9C8B screen.

When I e.g used the "JC Display" the screen got extremely red and I could only distinguish about 3 black/white boxes in the test. With mine own I could see all but the last 2. I swapped between them with the test site visible, to easily see the difference.

VSMacOne
Dec 6, 2008, 07:48 AM
Yes, I checked the links. I've got the new (I think?) 9C8B screen.

When I e.g used the "JC Display" the screen got extremely red and I could only distinguish about 3 black/white boxes in the test. With mine own I could see all but the last 2. I swapped between them with the test site visible, to easily see the difference.

The same thing happened to me, but then i found ONE that was better than the other ones.. Spyder Pro. I dont know how made it, but i's a champ. IMO best one so far.

Post your profile. Let's see how it compares to some of the other ones.

shady825
Dec 6, 2008, 08:54 AM
The same thing happened to me, but then i found ONE that was better than the other ones.. Spyder Pro. I dont know how made it, but i's a champ. IMO best one so far.

Post your profile. Let's see how it compares to some of the other ones.

I made a color profile that people seem to like.. if you wanna try it out, let me know..

iMac430
Dec 6, 2008, 05:57 PM
I made a color profile that people seem to like.. if you wanna try it out, let me know..

You should post it here so then we can try it out. Thanks.

VSMacOne
Dec 6, 2008, 06:30 PM
[QUOTE=shady825;6720503]I made a color profile that people seem to like.. if you wanna try it out, let me know..[/QUOTE=shady825;6720503]

Post it. Let's give it a try.
But so far, out of the 20+ that i've tried, not even one has come close...

tonyl
Dec 20, 2008, 12:16 AM
I got my MB today, love it! It has 9c8b panel. I have a spyder and will try to calibrate the display this weekend. Is native whitepoint good? I can upload the profile later. Btw, does anyone notice the space key is more flimsy?

rezonat0r
Dec 20, 2008, 11:00 PM
I got my MB today, love it! It has 9c8b panel. I have a spyder and will try to calibrate the display this weekend. Is native whitepoint good? I can upload the profile later.

You'll want 2.2 Gamma, Native white point and the screen at maximum brightness in a dark room. Be sure to disable all the screen dimming options in Energy Saver beforehand as well, especially the "automatically reduce the brightness before display sleep" option.

tonyl
Dec 21, 2008, 01:57 AM
I uploaded a zip file containing 2 profiles, one for native and one for 6500K. I found the brightness doesn't change the result. I also tried 50% brightness, no color difference.

You'll want 2.2 Gamma, Native white point and the screen at maximum brightness in a dark room. Be sure to disable all the screen dimming options in Energy Saver beforehand as well, especially the "automatically reduce the brightness before display sleep" option.

rezonat0r
Dec 21, 2008, 10:13 PM
I uploaded a zip file containing 2 profiles, one for native and one for 6500K. I found the brightness doesn't change the result. I also tried 50% brightness, no color difference.

Which Spyder are these from? Also, the backlight intensity won't affect color but it will affect how the Spyder sets white and black points. With my LG panel for example, if I don't calibrate at max brightness the resulting profile ends up crushing blacks in the lagom black level test.

tonyl
Dec 21, 2008, 11:38 PM
Which Spyder are these from? Also, the backlight intensity won't affect color but it will affect how the Spyder sets white and black points. With my LG panel for example, if I don't calibrate at max brightness the resulting profile ends up crushing blacks in the lagom black level test.

I use Spyder Pro, actually during calibration, brightness is required to reduce to minimum level, since too bright, you'll lose black.

rezonat0r
Dec 22, 2008, 12:10 AM
I use Spyder Pro, actually during calibration, brightness is required to reduce to minimum level, since too bright, you'll lose black.

That is actually incorrect. The Spyder software itself states to put the backlight (different than "brightness', the Macbook has no "brightness" control) on maximum (as long as maximum isn't crushing white level). What matters to the Spyder is seeing the full dynamic range of the screen, which it cannot do if you have the backlight trimmed way back.

tonyl
Dec 22, 2008, 06:24 PM
You mean it is backlight, not brightness control button on Macbook?

That is actually incorrect. The Spyder software itself states to put the backlight (different than "brightness', the Macbook has no "brightness" control) on maximum (as long as maximum isn't crushing white level). What matters to the Spyder is seeing the full dynamic range of the screen, which it cannot do if you have the backlight trimmed way back.

rezonat0r
Dec 22, 2008, 06:40 PM
You mean it is backlight, not brightness control button on Macbook?

Correct. You are really controlling the backlight with F1 and F2.

And just as an aside, the terms "brightness" and "contrast" are misused most of the time, especially on pretty much every TV and desktop LCD out there... "Brightness" is really "black level" and "contrast" is really "white level".

tonyl
Dec 22, 2008, 10:24 PM
Correct. You are really controlling the backlight with F1 and F2.

And just as an aside, the terms "brightness" and "contrast" are misused most of the time, especially on pretty much every TV and desktop LCD out there... "Brightness" is really "black level" and "contrast" is really "white level".

OK, I'll try to redo the calibration. Thanks for the clarification.

rezonat0r
Jan 18, 2009, 04:14 PM
Hey, so I was setting up a Macbook for someone and noticed it had the 9C8A screen, so I went ahead and profiled it. As usual you can download the profile in the first post.

I'm not sure who makes the screen but it seemed to be in line with the others quality-wise. Enjoy!

rezonat0r
Apr 23, 2009, 07:41 PM
Just uploaded the profiles as attachments, which should be a more permanent solution (and I'm tired of hosting them :D)

tongteh
May 2, 2009, 06:15 AM
quick question.. i got the 9C89 model of screen, presumably the worst screen out there.. :( i have been using the JC display found in this forum for about 6months, so if i change to one of the screen calibration in the thread, does that make my 9C89 model screen to be as good as 9C8C?

VSMacOne
May 2, 2009, 10:22 AM
quick question.. i got the 9C89 model of screen, presumably the worst screen out there.. :( i have been using the JC display found in this forum for about 6months, so if i change to one of the screen calibration in the thread, does that make my 9C89 model screen to be as good as 9C8C?

You just have to play around with them until you find one that YOU like, and that looks good with pictures, movies etc. Just open a picture file, a movie window and then switch around some profiles until you find one that fits your eyes best.

rezonat0r
May 3, 2009, 08:49 PM
I don't know who says 9C89 (LG) is the "worst screen out there" but it isn't. I've seen two of them and they were both as good (or better) than the other two varieties. After calibration all were virtually indistinguishable from each other.

Generally, using a profile made for a different screen won't be very accurate nor will it look good. So get the profile for your screen and use the tests I posted in my first post in this thread.

peepboon
May 22, 2009, 09:26 PM
Thanks guys, just done the calibration :)

firewater
May 22, 2009, 11:52 PM
I love my 9C89 screen

memco
May 29, 2009, 01:31 AM
So I have the 9C85, manufacturer 610. Is there any significant differences I need to be aware of when choosing one of the provided profiles?

rezonat0r
May 29, 2009, 11:25 AM
Haven't gotten my hands on a 9C85 panel to profile it, so it's likely none of these will work (well) for 9C85.

flowsy
Dec 10, 2010, 03:38 AM
MacBook Late 2008 "9C8C"-Display

Spyder 3 Pro - Profile