Sex and Macs, Macs and Sex

[jefhatfield]

when i first came here on these boards, there were no females

then came cleo and macette

and then the famous ubergeek and true777

how many current users out there now who are women?

[tpjunkie]

I like the creative title of this thread :p

[SiliconAddict]

Hmm wonder how may hits this thread would get if sex was replaced with gender. Then again Macs and gender would be in interesting thread in and of it self. :D

[wdlove]

Either one is appropriate gender or sex, they mean the same. It just happens to be the mind of the reader.

One very important member that you forgot Jef, is the ever present vinow. She was the first female that I met on the forum, that is posting wise.

[scem0]

The females in our mac community are very valuable, I think they have a lot to offer in a world of males.

I always pay special attention to posts by vniow, uber, cleo, and the other women here.

They tend to say something different and interesting.


The title of this thread is misleading (I was expecting another geek thread :eek: :D).

scem0

[Kwyjibo]

to me when your <18 your a girl not a woman .... so ubergeek for sure is not a woman

[Doctor Q]

Originally posted by wdlove
Either one is appropriate gender or sex, they mean the same.As I understand it, gender applies primarily to the style of a word, i.e., it describes a grammatical characteristic. Secondarily, gender describes a class of people in categorical statements. Thirdly, in a relatively newer usage, it is a synonym for sex when used to identify male vs. female. I think this usage caught on because people were afraid to say the word sex, given its other uses. I'm sure dictionaries differ among themselves on this issue.

So it is certainly correct to say that "he" is of male gender, and simply acceptable to say that he is of male gender, no matter who he is!

Female members you can add to your list: Arielle, Genie, Giaguara, Iconocat, judith, MacFan26, selloutvixen, and sillymacgirl.

[bont]

So all the other 21,129 members are male? :(

[bont]

Anybody know of any forums with 21,129 female members? :confused:

[warcraftmaster]

email mac polls and we will find out ehh?

[vniow]

I heard sex.

Resident Powerbitch here.

[joker2]

You could add me to the list as well, though I haven't posted here nearly as much as most others here :)

[rainman::|:|]

Originally posted by wdlove
Either one is appropriate gender or sex, they mean the same. It just happens to be the mind of the reader.

One very important member that you forgot Jef, is the ever present vinow. She was the first female that I met on the forum, that is posting wise.

as you should know as a nurse, sex generally refers to the sex organs that a person has, in defining their male/female characteristics. Gender has come to mean the other characteristics of a person, not just what organs they have but how they act, dress, and self-perceive. it's not terribly useful to the conversation, as people will respond as they would either way, but just to clarify.

the reason the previous poster had brought it up, however, was that "sex" generally grabs people's attention, and the thread is simply titled "macs and sex..." and if it were "macs and gender..." it might have people less quick to see what he was talking about...

paul

[Alte22a]

I'm trying to presaude my girlfriend to join the forums but she aint interested. :( Just pops round to use her mac on my WIFI. never mind..

How come I still aint got a picture thingy (sorry for being so technical). Guess I aint qualified as a full Mac head.

[Doctor Q]

Originally posted by Alte22a
How come I still aint got a picture thingy (sorry for being so technical). Guess I aint qualified as a full Mac head. Yes, the official name is "picture thingy". :) But some people also call them avatars. You'll get one when you reach 500 posts. At your current post rate, that's 18 months from now. Getting an avatar shouldn't be an incentive to submit pointless posts, but rather to visit often, read threads, and particpate in the discussions. It also helps new members identify those who have been longer-term presences in the MacRumors forums.

[MrMacMan]

I don't really care since nooo one here talks about sexual related issues -- Expect talk about Gay/Homosexual topics which are getting frikken old.


If there was a more balanced forum base we could talk about things...

blah.

[sethypoo]

I talked my girlfriend Tara into joining. Her username is "Tara" (real original).

She's going to start posting more often soon, she says.

Add her to the list!

[Genie]

Hello

[pseudobrit]

As I understand it, gender applies primarily to the style of a word, i.e., it describes a grammatical characteristic. Secondarily, gender describes a class of people in categorical statements. Thirdly, in a relatively newer usage, it is a synonym for sex when used to identify male vs. female. I think this usage caught on because people were afraid to say the word sex, given its other uses.

Very observant and accurate. The use of the word "gender" to describe someone's sex or sexual orientation is a relatively new and incorrect usage of the word.

The first two definitions you listed are the correct usage. Think of the term "engender." It has no connection to sex whatsoever, despite having "gender" as its root.

[Westside guy]

Anybody know of any forums with 21,129 female members? :confused:

Well I didn't actually check this one out, but I imagine the Justin Timberlake forums (http://www.justin-t.com/jtforum/register.php?action=signup) are a good bet. :p

[mymemory]

Wow, we really have a masters in topics with non sense. But any way, girls are cool, specially when they think. I hearded once that "women are not bright technically speaking but nothing like a conversation with one at tea time" I guess that was Froid or Bell who said that.

Yes, to have a girl in between give some magic to the place. :cool:

[blue&whiteman]

Hello

Genie, you have over 600 posts and I have never seen you around ever till now... guess either i'm blind or you're very stealth. ;)

its good to have women around. women bring grace to anything they do usually and that makes being around them more fun than men. :)

[Kyle?]

jef's always been interested in the ladies on the board. When I first started posting, he was hoping to add me to the list of chloe and macette. :D I've always liked the name Kyle, now there are too many Kylies and such out there. It's a cool name but now it's becoming too cross-gendered. :eek:

[whooleytoo]

Genie, you have over 600 posts and I have never seen you around ever till now... guess either i'm blind or you're very stealth.

Answer (A). You must be blind! ;)

Thanks to her gallery, Genie is probably more famous than MacRumors!

[wordmunger]

Well, there is this (http://www.macpolls.com/?poll_id=39). On the other hand, we probably could do with an updated poll--that's a year and a half old.

[blue&whiteman]

Answer (A). You must be blind! ;)

Thanks to her gallery, Genie is probably more famous than MacRumors!

I have only been around here for about 4 or 5 months and was in germany and san fran for most of january so I guess I just never read the same threads or something :)

or ya... maybe I am blind
:confused:

hehe

[Bedawyn]

Present and more-or-less accounted for. Been reading for years, though I only signed up a year or so ago and don't post much.

Interesting that the thread seems to have more replies from men than women...

[question fear]

despite the assumption of some people here, and far more often people i meet in real life, I am a woman.

slowly outgrowing my uberbutch phase, which has ellicited more confusion about my gender. go figure.

[kaylee]

add me to the list.

[selloutvixen]

Female members you can add to your list: Arielle, Genie, Giaguara, Iconocat, judith, MacFan26, selloutvixen, and sillymacgirl.

Hey! That's me! :D

[wPod]

Yes, the official name is "picture thingy". :) But some people also call them avatars. You'll get one when you reach 500 posts. At your current post rate, that's 18 months from now. Getting an avatar shouldn't be an incentive to submit pointless posts, but rather to visit often, read threads, and particpate in the discussions. It also helps new members identify those who have been longer-term presences in the MacRumors forums.

im working on getting a "picture thingy" ever since i found out about that i also found out about other lovely things in the forums. . . like posts asking if people are male or female. maybe people could put pics of themselves as their "picture thingy" then we would just be able to tell if they are male or female :-)

[PlaceofDis]

i think we definately need a poll for this

i tried to get my girlfriend to join but she wont, and my roommate wont until shes gets her own mac....was worth a try at least

[thatwendigo]

as you should know as a nurse, sex generally refers to the sex organs that a person has, in defining their male/female characteristics. Gender has come to mean the other characteristics of a person, not just what organs they have but how they act, dress, and self-perceive. it's not terribly useful to the conversation, as people will respond as they would either way, but just to clarify.

Thanks for covering that, Paul. I have a couple of TS friends, and so gender issues are just another of those things that are on my plate, while most people ignore or misunderstand them. Everyone automatically assumes that sexual identity is some kind of physical thing, and I can't count how often I've seen people assume that slightly effeminite men are gay or bisexual, because of the conditioning of popular culture... Granted, most of the gay guys I know are not terribly butch, but I'm not gay and I sure don't come across as the typical beer-drinkin', football watchin' good ole boy.

Hell, I like art museums and Chopin a little too much to join the older club, and I like how women look and feel too much to be on your side. What's a guy to do? ;)

[Kyle?]

In this day and age we have a description for everybody, including you. And you my friend are metrosexual, a guy who enjoys the finer things in life and is still 100% straight. I could go into depth about what I think about all this gender v. sex stuff, but I'd be shot down and/or ridiculed and mocked by those who refuse to see things from another perspective. It seems the more "intelligent" we get, the more likely we are to shun other viewpoints or possibilities. Really beneficial to intelligent conversation. :rolleyes:

[rueyeet]

Who you are doesn't have to be exclusively guided by the organs you were, or weren't, born with. But it's a symptom of how neurotic our society is about sexuality that we have such trouble with--and are so picky about--terminology. We're struggling to put words around things our society has never allowed a concept of before, and thus never included in the language.

Anyway, chalk up another poster of the feminine persuasion here, by virtue of both organs and identity. :)

[thatwendigo]

In this day and age we have a description for everybody, including you. And you my friend are metrosexual, a guy who enjoys the finer things in life and is still 100% straight.

I hate the connotations of metrosexuality, though, especially because it's so trendy and would feel like I was trying to present myself as something I'm not. Really, I prefer to think of myself as being off on my own, in any case... Didn't Heinlein say, in Stranger in a Strange Land, that genius tends to invent its own sexual mores, in any case?

Guess I'm alright, then. :cool:

I could go into depth about what I think about all this gender v. sex stuff, but I'd be shot down and/or ridiculed and mocked by those who refuse to see things from another perspective. It seems the more "intelligent" we get, the more likely we are to shun other viewpoints or possibilities. Really beneficial to intelligent conversation. :rolleyes:

Hey, I'm interested in hearing it. It's not often I get to talk about sexuality with anyone who isn't already off into left field to begin with. Most of my conversations lately have been with the GLBTQ community, and even further out, after all.