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NT1440
Nov 6, 2008, 09:15 PM
Hey guys, I was just wondering if you guys could help me figure something out.

Anyone ever know anyone with depression or deal with it themselves? Any noteable symptoms that are easy to detect?

Thanks.



iGary
Nov 6, 2008, 09:26 PM
you can’t sleep enough or you sleep too much
you can’t concentrate or find that previously easy tasks are now difficult
you feel worthless and hopeless
you can’t control your negative thoughts, no matter how much you try
you have lost your appetite or you can’t stop eating
you are constantly irritated or become enraged even at small things – and this is new for you
you have thoughts that life is not worth living, or have a plan for how you would end it (Seek help immediately if this is the case)

That's pretty accurate.

NT1440
Nov 6, 2008, 09:27 PM
Would a person be displaying all these symptoms?

What if its just a majority?

iGary
Nov 6, 2008, 09:29 PM
Would a person be displaying all these symptoms?

What if its just a majority?

A majority of those symptoms, not all.

You basically lose hope, don't enjoy just about anything (things as simple as eating) and feel like there's no reason to live.

That's it in a nutshell.

If you think you might be suffering, it's very treatable; go see your primary care physician and get a referral to a psychiatrist.

firstapple
Nov 6, 2008, 09:29 PM
Never has to be all of these symptoms. If I knew someone with half of these symptoms I would be worried.

iShater
Nov 6, 2008, 09:30 PM
Think of all the symptoms you can think of when someone is having a down day, then multiply by 1000 and expect it every day. :(

NT1440
Nov 6, 2008, 09:32 PM
Are there different levels of depression?

Like, say they display most of the symptoms, but just not the suicidal part?

(loss of motivation, feelings of hopelessness, withdrawn, urges to be wreckless with body, etc)

iGary
Nov 6, 2008, 09:33 PM
Are there different levels of depression?

Like, say they display most of the symptoms, but just not the suicidal part?

(loss of motivation, feelings of hopelessness, withdrawn, urges to be wreckless with body, etc)

Yes, you can be depressed an not be suicidal, but it usually plays into the equation eventually.

Here are the DSM codes:

Major Depressive Disorder, Recurrent

296.36 In Full Remission
296.35 In Partial Remission
296.31 Mild
296.32 Moderate
296.33 Severe Without Psychotic Features
296.34 Severe With Psychotic Features
296.30 Unspecified

Major Depressive Disorder, Single Episode

296.26 In Full Remission
296.25 In Partial Remission
296 21 Mild
296.22 Moderate
296.23 Severe Without Psychotic Features
296.24 Severe With Psychotic Features
296.20 Unspecified

NT1440
Nov 6, 2008, 09:34 PM
Major Depressive Disorder, Recurrent

296.36 In Full Remission
296.35 In Partial Remission
296.31 Mild
296.32 Moderate
296.33 Severe Without Psychotic Features
296.34 Severe With Psychotic Features
296.30 Unspecified

Major Depressive Disorder, Single Episode

296.26 In Full Remission
296.25 In Partial Remission
296 21 Mild
296.22 Moderate
296.23 Severe Without Psychotic Features
296.24 Severe With Psychotic Features
296.20 Unspecified

im confused about the numbers?

iGary
Nov 6, 2008, 09:36 PM
im confused about the numbers?

They are codes for diagnoses from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.

NT1440
Nov 6, 2008, 09:38 PM
Who would you recommend a person, say, a 17 year old talk to about it if parents are not an option?

ntrigue
Nov 6, 2008, 09:41 PM
Absolutely. Even with a passionate President-elect things in DC move slowly.

ucfgrad93
Nov 6, 2008, 09:42 PM
Who would you recommend a person, say, a 17 year old talk to about it if parents are not an option?

School counselor or pastor?

NT1440
Nov 6, 2008, 09:43 PM
Thanks guys.

iGary
Nov 6, 2008, 09:43 PM
Who would you recommend a person, say, a 17 year old talk to about it if parents are not an option?

Problem is most doctors/psychs will not treat anyone under 17 without parental consent. They could always try a guidance counselor at school or maybe a local mental health clinic.

There are lots of resources online as well - forums just like this one, but for folks suffering from the disease.

Does that help?

Baron58
Nov 6, 2008, 09:45 PM
Who would you recommend a person, say, a 17 year old talk to about it if parents are not an option?

Doctor. Not a minister/priest/rabbi, since they are often not supportive of medical treatments for mental disorders. I mean, you can talk to them about how you feel, of course, but don't expect actual proper treatment (counseling/talk therapy/meds) to result.

If you have a trusted older relative (uncle/aunt) who you can talk to for a while (before they eventually inform your parents), try that.

yojitani
Nov 6, 2008, 09:49 PM
You will often be asked to fill in a questionnaire called the 'Wakefield test'. You can take it anonymously here:
http://depression.about.com/cs/diagnosis/a/wakefield.htm

JW8725
Nov 6, 2008, 10:35 PM
Google up Vitamin D3 it works wonders. I was rather stressed from my various businesses to the point where depression was kicking in. I now supplement with D3 and it helps lots.

Rodimus Prime
Nov 6, 2008, 10:41 PM
Would a person be displaying all these symptoms?

What if its just a majority?

Well based off that post it is not you who is dealing with it but some one else.

For the other person to answer you question no they can cover it up very well and you might get something here and there.

I battle with depression every day. I struggle with it. I can also cover it up very easily and I do cover it up where very few people see my private struggle with it.

It is here and there people who know will see when either a topic comes up or I am talking about something that hits closer to it and the emotions show threw. It always here and there that something like the battle shows.