I have had mp3 players, but the Touch is my first Apple product, so I have not frame of reference. Once I got the Touch, I did update the firmware to the 2.0 version. I then began to gather accessories and apps to my liking. One thing I have not been able to work out is the AV out. I ordered a cable from eBay but when it came it did not work. The vendor then told me it was not compatible with the upgrade. So how do I find a cable so that I can watch vids on my TV?