Apple updates GarageBand to 1.0.1

[MacBytes]

Category: Apple Software
Link: Apple updates GarageBand to 1.0.1 (http://www.macbytes.com/link.php?sid=20040212170308)

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Approved by Mudbug

[Nermal]

This update clarifies specific alert dialogs regarding system performance.

21.5 megs for that? :eek:

[Mudbug]

Originally posted by Nermal
21.5 megs for that? :eek:

I wondered the same thing off the bat...
also, it doesn't show in SU yet - wonder if that'll change in time.

but here's to hoping it fixes that "unable to render tracks due to insufficient yada yada yada" I get on my powerbook sometimes. ;)

[mainstreetmark]

Hmm.. I was hoping for more than reworded dialogs, like being able to put in chord changes.

[johnnyjibbs]

I can't see it in software update either. Website here I come..

I hope it actually fixes some of the performance issues, not just how it reports them to you.

[virividox]

thats a big update

[reedm007]

Originally posted by mainstreetmark
Hmm.. I was hoping for more than reworded dialogs, like being able to put in chord changes.

Do you mean like transposing to a different key? That's already supported, so probably not what you mean, just thought I'd check.

[Photorun]

20+ MBs? Dang! Oh well, better than the 200 MB for UT2K4! (Which is cool BTW).

Maybe the annoying "some text may not display properly" DB at start up will go away now.

[lindmar]

Doesnt show up in Software Udate?
Whats up with that!!

[mainstreetmark]

Originally posted by reedm007
Do you mean like transposing to a different key? That's already supported, so probably not what you mean, just thought I'd check.

Yeah, but I mean like being able to somehow define a chord progression for the whole song. C G D G

[nagromme]

I think you can already do chord progressions like that. Soundtrack can.

(That's too funny to have a 20 MB download for some rewording... I'd say Apple has probably neglected to mention some other fixes :D )

[bousozoku]

It showed up as 18.9 MB when I downloaded it. I haven't used GB extensively so I haven't noticed any differences yet. I can't imagine, even with 15 languages or so, that it could just be alert dialog boxes. It may be that they've changed the code as to when those alerts pop up, as well as some language clarifications.

[sethypoo]

It's still not in my Software Update.....anyone know why? :confused:

Edit: maybe some system's performances don't need the update, due to the fact that some users may not get any dialog boxes. I think I should get the update, because I am running a 12" PowerBook G4 Rev. A.....

[pkradd]

A lot of updates don't appear on Software Update until a day after they appear on the Apple website as standalones. Nothing new.

The update is for everybody that has GarageBand, even if you haven't received those dialogue boxes. It has a new number ya know.

[imaginereno]

Originally posted by sethypoo
It's still not in my Software Update.....anyone know why? :confused:

Edit: maybe some system's performances don't need the update, due to the fact that some users may not get any dialog boxes. I think I should get the update, because I am running a 12" PowerBook G4 Rev. A.....

Try the link at the top of the page. :)

Here it is again:

http://www.macbytes.com/link.php?sid=20040212170308

[P-Worm]

Wow, what a coincidence. I just got my keyboard in the mail today.

P-Worm

[Trowaman]

*must . . . buy . . . iLife . . . '04 . . .:confused:

[geerlingguy]

Seems like there ain't much else in the update. Looked around the packages and found naught but language and dialog stuff. What a bloated peice of download! :confused:

[reckless_0001]

How about adding support for recording multiple tracks simultaneously? eh? eh? :)

[elgruga]

How about sending me a bag of 100 dollar bills? eh? eh?

Sorry, I think I'm just bored or something....

[bhanna]

I installed this tonight, and noticed that I can now run a tune that earlier gave me the out of resources error on my PB while running on battery with reduced processor.

Good fix!

[Engagebot]

Originally posted by sethypoo

Edit: maybe some system's performances don't need the update, due to the fact that some users may not get any dialog boxes. I think I should get the update, because I am running a 12" PowerBook G4 Rev. A.....

the frequency of those dialog boxes being called on your machine has nothing to do with the fact that the update will see that code as old.

[~Shard~]

Wow, that didn't take long! Hmm, why such a large file for such a "minor" update?

[Elektronkind]

Originally posted by nagromme
(That's too funny to have a 20 MB download for some rewording... I'd say Apple has probably neglected to mention some other fixes :D )

The update is replacing the complete GB executable. You cannot just replace "changed sections" of an existing executable. You are not seeing 20MB of just changes and/or fixes.

Even if only one word was changed, that means a whole new 20MB binary.

/dale

[edesignuk]

Coolies :cool: I'll be getting that as soon as I get home :D

[CmdrLaForge]

Originally posted by Nermal
21.5 megs for that? :eek:

Thats exactly what I tought as well :( :mad:

Why should I even download it ? I really don't care why the performance is so bad.

[gfer]

Originally posted by Elektronkind
(...) You cannot just replace "changed sections" of an existing executable. You are not seeing 20MB of just changes and/or fixes.

Even if only one word was changed, that means a whole new 20MB binary.


Yes, you can. It can be done "patching" the application.

Cocoa apps are, in fact, a folder containing the binary and some resources. You can open any Cocoa app with the "show package contents" command in the contextual menu.

To change wording and/or interface, a Soundtrack update only needs to replace old files in the .lproj folders in /Applications/Soundtrack/Contents/Resources/.

[Elektronkind]

Originally posted by gfer
Yes, you can. It can be done "patching" the application.

Cocoa apps are, in fact, a folder containing the binary and some resources. You can open any Cocoa app with the "show package contents" command in the contextual menu.

To change wording and/or interface, a Soundtrack update only needs to replace old files in the .lproj folders in /Applications/Soundtrack/Contents/Resources/.

I know all about Cocoa apps and the FAT binary type Darwin uses. Believe me. Note that I use the word "binary" and not the all-encompassing word, "App" in my statement you respond to.

You are correct when you mention that all local resources, from the language files to any local shared libraries are contained within the resource fork of the overall App.

But I was referring to the actual GarageBand executable binary itself, the one you find in GarageBand.app/Contents/MacOS/

Patches as you are referring to, such as diff-type patches for text files, do and can exist. But Apple doesn't use them. They just overwrite the older file with the new version.

Patches for binary files, such as the executable itself, and accompanying libraries, etc however, are a different animal. It would be very cumbersome and dangerous for a someone to update their binaries by changing regions of an existing binary and then hoping it works. Plus, one loses the cumulative effect of the update. This is why, again, it is easier and more reliable to provide a complete new binary in updates.

But patches in the scope of the overall Application itself, these are.

/dale

[Toe]

Originally posted by Mudbug
but here's to hoping it fixes that "unable to render tracks due to insufficient yada yada yada" I get on my powerbook sometimes. ;) I've seen these on my PB too. To overcome it, I just quit out of other apps, and log out of other simultaneously logged-in users.

If you're still seeing this dialog (which I guess might still show up in 1.0.1, but with different words?), then launch Activity Viewer, view All Processes, and see what's eating your CPU cycles.

[psycho bob]

when the file is actually uncompressed it is around 40mb. Quite a meaty update.

[johnnyjibbs]

I think this might have done more. I haven't had that message come up lately. Performance appears to have improved. When GarageBand is idle it no longer consumes 30-40% CPU.

Then again, maybe it's just me.

[sethypoo]

Originally posted by Engagebot
the frequency of those dialog boxes being called on your machine has nothing to do with the fact that the update will see that code as old.

Wow, that made no sense!

BTW, it's still not in my Software Update. I don't think I need 21.5 MB for dialog boxes.

[psycho bob]

don't wait for it to appear in SU I didn't just download it from the apple OS X download page.

[Engagebot]

Originally posted by sethypoo
Wow, that made no sense!

BTW, it's still not in my Software Update. I don't think I need 21.5 MB for dialog boxes.

what i'm saying is whether or not those dialog boxes are used on your machine more than somebody elses, the update still will update your software. software updates dont care how often you use that function. theyll still update it.

it does make sense, assuming you've ever coded anything in your life. and if you havent, then dont make remarks about software issues you dont understand.

[Toe]

I'm guessing that the update might do more than change some text in some dialogs. At the least, it could change the conditions under which those dialogs are displayed. And it could do lots of other things. The info about what's new in this update is not exclusive... that is, it says "This update clarifies specific alert dialogs regarding system performance." But it does not say that that is the only change... just the only one they mention.

Anyway, if you think Apple should be more descriptive, then I'd encourage you to go to
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120320
scroll all the way to the bottom, and click on the second or third option in their survey.