'Push' Notifications Coming in iPhone 2.2.1?

[MacRumors]

http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/11/29/push-notifications-coming-in-iphone-2-2-1/)

RussianiPhone.ru claims (http://russianiphone.ru/archives/2762) that they have seen iPhone 2.2.1 Beta 1 and that it implements Push notifications as well as over-the-air MobileMe syncing with Notes support.

As proof they've posted a screenshot (http://images.macrumors.com/article/2008/11/29/134913-img_00021.png) showing the Notes and Calendar applications with a update badges displayed (though this is relatively easy to fake).

MacRumors can't verify these claims at this time. Apple has not yet seeded iPhone 2.2.1 Beta 1 to developers, so if RussianiPhone.ru does have a copy, they obtained it outside of any public distribution.

While Apple originally promised Push notification support for September, Steve Jobs acknowledged a delay (http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2008/10/02/apple-misses-september-deadline-for-push-notifications/) in an email and said they wanted to "get it 100% right the first time." Developers and users have been anxiously awaiting the release this new feature. In the current iPhone firmware, applications are not allowed to run any background tasks. As a result, an application like a Instant Messaging application would be unable to notify the user that a new message had arrived. Push notifications would provide the tools to trigger these alerts.



Article Link: 'Push' Notifications Coming in iPhone 2.2.1? (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/11/29/push-notifications-coming-in-iphone-2-2-1/)

[macfan881]

this better be on touch as well i was rather p.oed that streetview wasnt on 2.2

[kmcrawford]

This would be huge, and I think important for Apple to release before Christmas time. Some of the new apps that could be developed as part of this enhancement would certainly help iPhone sales.

[plumbingandtech]

More Mobile Me support (notes - todos??? maybe? ;)) would add lots of value to my mobileme subscript and make this user happy happy.

[abijnk]

this better be on touch as well i was rather p.oed that streetview wasnt on 2.2

Well, they would be a little less useful, since you could only get them on wifi, but I'd be surprised if some sort of implementation wasn't coming for it.

Then again, I was also surprised that streetview wasn't available for the touch, so who knows.

[Icaras]

That is some of the finest photoshopping I've ever seen.

[nitewolfgtr]

About time! I've been waiting for this. At least they'll be releasing it by the end of the year...

[BittenApple]

Looks like if this is real, it is going to drop in MWSF.

[angemon89]

LOL at the screenshot. I could do that with mspaint.

[bizzaregood]

this better be on touch as well i was rather p.oed that streetview wasnt on 2.2


Well if your touch is jailbroken you can enable it :cool::cool:


Hope this rumor is true and that it comes out before the new year (come on :apple: )

[Kilamite]

We know it is coming - would make sense for it to drop in as a quick announcement during Apple's MWSF09 keynote.

[jdwingnut]

So, what is the equivalent of Notes on the Mac that this would be synced or pushed with.

Is this like "To Do" in iCal or "Tasks" in Outlook

[cgiffin]

The picture doesn't show the contacts app. I don't believe that app can be removed from the phone so I thing this picture is a fake.

[plumbingandtech]

The picture doesn't show the contacts app. I don't believe that app can be removed from the phone so I thing this picture is a fake.

I put my contacts app on my second page.

Am I fake?
:D

[alexexexex]

The picture doesn't show the contacts app. I don't believe that app can be removed from the phone so I thing this picture is a fake.

it'll be on page 2 of apps i guess!??

[QCassidy352]

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The picture doesn't show the contacts app. I don't believe that app can be removed from the phone so I thing this picture is a fake.

It's on another screen... There are five of them in that pic.

Note syncing would be great... Plz not just for mobile me tho!

[lozanoj83]

The picture doesn't show the contacts app. I don't believe that app can be removed from the phone so I thing this picture is a fake.

Well there are more home screens, and usually the contacts app is in the second home screen
although who knows if this is fake or not..

[kk1ro]

The picture doesn't show the contacts app. I don't believe that app can be removed from the phone so I thing this picture is a fake.

It's in another page.

I hope this is true and I hope it launches before Xmas as a free update for the iPhone AND iPod Touch users.

[BittenApple]

I put my contacts app on my second page.

Am I fake?
:D

Oh so very fake. =p

Some people choose to hide their contacts with SBSettings and other just move it to another page. Not a very big deal in regard with the authenticity of the screenie.

[shm00n]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but calendar events sync over MobileMe at the moment, and they certainly don't have the number notification badges on the main screen when they do...?

[gts197]

all i have to say is they have had plenty of time and that it better work when it is released :cool:

[fastcar]

To me, it makes little sense to have a badge appear on the Notes app if it is being synced, which makes me a little sceptical.

The Contacts app acts in the same manner now as we would expect the Notes app to behave if it were synced over MobileMe, and there is no need to badge the Contacts app.

Users would not need to be notified of new Notes being pushed to the phone, because they were created by the user themselves on their Mac. Only if Notes were RSS capable or fetching non-user generated Notes would this be necessary, I think?

[Vasileios]

This is not the v2.2.1
They are just playing with badge MobileNotes :-)

http://www.iphonehellas.gr/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1707.0;attach=464;image

[noisymime]

Am I the only one who got excited thinking it meant Lotus Notes syncing? :(

[alexp2ad]

Can't believe this was even posted. Look at the shadow under the badges, the shadow isn't nearly that black on actual badges, they've just made it solid black because they're too crap to draw shadows properly (and too crap to apply fake badges via jailbreak too).

Horrendously fake, ignore.

(Also, can confirm there is no developer betas at this time)

[Scottyk9]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but calendar events sync over MobileMe at the moment, and they certainly don't have the number notification badges on the main screen when they do...?

If you receive an emailed invitation with a calender event attached (.ics), this shows up as a "new event" in a similar fashion in iCal. Perhaps this is the same, but on the iPhone.

[funnyent]

I want push notifications so bad!!! However, I think that would be a 2.3 update, or maybe a macworld 3.0 update along with sideways SMS and email.

[bbplayer5]

Nothing like more push services killing your battery! woohoo!

[websyndicate]

I want to believe but not in Photoshop. Say it no so.

[TheSpaz]

I just want 2.2 fixed so that pictures are saved from Mail correctly. Meh.

[bbplayer5]

I still dont get how and why apple calls this "push". Its not push!!! Its your iPhone constantly begging for information from a server. Thats not push...

Battery complaints incoming!

[TheSpaz]

I still dont get how and why apple calls this "push". Its not push!!! Its your iPhone constantly begging for information from a server. Thats not push...

Battery complaints incoming!

No. Push is the opposite. The iPhone doesn't constantly poll the server. When new data is ready, it's pushed to the iPhone and the iPhone downloads it.

[TuffLuffJimmy]

I just want 2.2 fixed so that pictures are saved from Mail correctly. Meh.

What does that have to do with push notifications?
I can't wait for push notifiactions. The first Twitter client to use push will have my ten dollars.

[JRSAHLBERG]

2.2.1 with push notifications? Why not 2.3?

[Kilamite]

What does that have to do with push notifications?
I can't wait for push notifiactions. The first Twitter client to use push will have my ten dollars.

2.2 broke it, so you'd expect 2.2.1 to fix it ;)

[Krevnik]

I still dont get how and why apple calls this "push". Its not push!!! Its your iPhone constantly begging for information from a server. Thats not push...

Battery complaints incoming!

It is push, but it does it by keeping a connection alive with the server (via a heartbeat packet). It still sucks your battery dry because of the radio being more active than normal.

Unless this is driven by some other mechanism worked out with AT&T, that is.

[jarofclay73]

Even though the rumor is fake, I still hope "push" is coming in the next update.

[TheSpaz]

In case anyone is wondering, I went ahead and jailbroke my iPod touch for this thread to swap the icons for Mail and Notes to see how a badge would REALLY look on Notes WITHOUT Photoshopping to shut up those who are screaming Photoshop on this. Here is a screenshot I took.

I swear to you that this screenshot is legit. It's 2.2 with Mail and Notes icons swapped... so Notes is actually just MobileMail.app in disguise.

[dagamer34]

So, what is the equivalent of Notes on the Mac that this would be synced or pushed with.

Is this like "To Do" in iCal or "Tasks" in Outlook

Mail has an option for notes.

The picture doesn't show the contacts app. I don't believe that app can be removed from the phone so I thing this picture is a fake.

By default, contacts is listed on the 2nd page of iPhone apps on an iPhone that hasn't been used yet.

[dagamer34]

It is push, but it does it by keeping a connection alive with the server (via a heartbeat packet). It still sucks your battery dry because of the radio being more active than normal.

Unless this is driven by some other mechanism worked out with AT&T, that is.

If you are already using MobileMe, then it's not going to suck your power down any more. Plus, doesn't the phone have to be "kept alive" to receive a phone call anyway? The power difference isn't that significant.

[Sky Blue]

In case anyone is wondering, I went ahead and jailbroke my iPod touch for this thread to swap the icons for Mail and Notes to see how a badge would REALLY look on Notes WITHOUT Photoshopping to shut up those who are screaming Photoshop on this. Here is a screenshot I took.

I swear to you that this screenshot is legit. It's 2.2 with Mail and Notes icons swapped... so Notes is actually just MobileMail.app in disguise.

why it suck

[aperley]

The author of the post on the russian website has officially acknowledged (in the forum thread) that it IS a fake. Not a Photoshop trick though - he used Erica Utilities on a jailbroken phone to run the "badge MobileNotes 3" command for Notes, and similarly for the Calendar. This allows to add a badge with about anything in it - just put your text in place of "3". That forum thread shows a screenshot of the home screen where every app has a badge with [part of] it's own name.

But regardless of the method, it is officially fake.

[Manic Mouse]

Nothing like more push services killing your battery! woohoo!

I don't get why everyone is assuming this will take any extra battery than what the iPhone "push" functionality currently uses.

There will only ever be ONE push process on the iPhone, like there currently is. Keeping this connection open will not take any more battery than it currently does to keep the push connection open for email. The difference is that the SINGLE push connection will be usable by any app, not just mail.

Yes if you get a lot of notification battery life might be slightly less, due to the small amount of downloading done every time you receive one, but it's unlikely it'll make a huge difference. I thought that this was the entire point of a single, unified push system; to be gentle on the battery compared to having multiple push services or letting apps run in the background.

Anyway, I'm not sure how Apple are implementing push, but on my iPhone I've not noticed any difference in battery life since enabling push. But maybe I'm lucky.

[TheSpaz]

Here's a comparison of my Notes icon with a badge and the article screenshot of the Notes icon cropped in the SAME PLACE so you can compare them. I suggest saving them to the computer and opening them both up in Preview and flick back and forth and you'll see they're identical.

[TheSpaz]

The author of the post on the russian website has officially acknowledged (in the forum thread) that it IS a fake. Not a Photoshop trick though - he used Erica Utilities on a jailbroken phone to run the "badge MobileNotes 3" command for Notes, and similarly for the Calendar. This allows to add a badge with about anything in it - just put your text in place of "3". That forum thread shows a screenshot of the home screen where every app has a badge with [part of] it's own name.

But regardless of the method, it is officially fake.

Good to know. It's funny when people immediately are like "Look at the shadows! Apple wouldn't make shadows like that!" Hahaha. It made me laugh.

[macfan881]

That is some of the finest photoshopping I've ever seen.

its funny how when people want proof they cry Fake until a pic is posted than they cry its fake from photoshop:rolleyes:

[Lepton]

No matter how many push apps you will have active, they won't draw any more battery power than one single push app. So if you are using push EMail now, adding any number of push apps won't affect battery at all. That's the beauty of it!

The thing is, all push apps will go through a single central connection. In a traditional system, each push app would have its own connection, and that takes resources. The new system will allow pushing without having the apps needing to run in the background. It's a good solution.

There is one drawback. When a push comes in, it can only do three things, but not the big thing. It can change the number on the icon badge, it can make a sound, and it can show an alert. But it can't actually launch the app and have it do something. The best you can do is show an alert, and a button on it will let the user launch the app - just like when you receive an SMS. Or it can just change the badge, like when you receive an EMail. When you think about it, this is a very small drawback indeed.

[aperley]

It's funny when people immediately are like "Look at the shadows! Apple wouldn't make shadows like that!" Hahaha.

My first though was - "Why the hell would I want that badge on the Notes.app anyway?"

[Maxington]

About time for a feature we expected a few updates ago.

[Manic Mouse]

No matter how many push apps you will have active, they won't draw any more battery power than one single push app. So if you are using push EMail now, adding any number of push apps won't affect battery at all. That's the beauty of it!

The thing is, all push apps will go through a single central connection. In a traditional system, each push app would have its own connection, and that takes resources. The new system will allow pushing without having the apps needing to run in the background. It's a good solution.

There is one drawback. When a push comes in, it can only do three things, but not the big thing. It can change the number on the icon badge, it can make a sound, and it can show an alert. But it can't actually launch the app and have it do something. The best you can do is show an alert, and a button on it will let the user launch the app - just like when you receive an SMS. Or it can just change the badge, like when you receive an EMail. When you think about it, this is a very small drawback indeed.

I hope they add alerts to mail. I've never understood why it only makes a noise and shows a badge, but not display a message like when you get an SMS, or show up on the lock screen. You can see if you have a missed call, or text message but not if you have an email.

[kornyboy]

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I hope this is true. It has been a long time waiting on this.

[JP3G]

Actually, I think it's the same site that gave us the CONFIRMED rumor that 2.2 was coming in 10 days.

[Pooshka]

Please, delete this thread.

What a shame.

[aperley]

I hope this is true. It has been a long time waiting on this.


Dude, the author of this "news" himself has confirmed it is NOT TRUE. You can keep hoping if you just don't want to face the reality...

[Wingsy]

Can't believe this was even posted. Look at the shadow under the badges, the shadow isn't nearly that black on actual badges, they've just made it solid black because they're too crap to draw shadows properly (and too crap to apply fake badges via jailbreak too).

Horrendously fake, ignore.

(Also, can confirm there is no developer betas at this time)

I've taken a screen cap of my phone and compared it to the Russian image. The shadows are almost identical with the shadow pattern I see on my capture. In fact, the entire badge is nearly an exact copy of the badge from my phone. If it's fake, they did a darn good job of it.

I believe the reason my badge pixels are not EXACTLY the same as the Russian pic has to do with the image underneath and the screen brightness. But it's the shadow and the blending around the badge that convinces me that it's not a fake.

[Wingsy]

In case anyone is wondering, I went ahead and jailbroke my iPod touch for this thread to swap the icons for Mail and Notes to see how a badge would REALLY look on Notes WITHOUT Photoshopping to shut up those who are screaming Photoshop on this. Here is a screenshot I took.

I swear to you that this screenshot is legit. It's 2.2 with Mail and Notes icons swapped... so Notes is actually just MobileMail.app in disguise.

Your badge pixels are within 1 or 2 RGB brightness values as the Russian picture. I don't understand why they are not exactly the same though, unless your screen brightness is not set to the exact same level as the Russian pic. But it has to be close, real close.

Considering that you managed to duplicate the Russian image, I'm now back to being undecided as to whether their pic is real or fake. Yours is a fake, so theirs can be too, regardless as to what I'm seeing in Photoshop.

EDITED: And now that I've read the REST of the story, I can go back to whatever I was thinking before this silly article came up.

[zedsdead]

To-Do-List & Notes please!

[fyrmedic]

is blue tooth support. like voice dialing a software or hardware upgrade. why can't apple add it? would it hog memory ect. Need to hands free dial and not a big fan of the supplied headphones

[eli8527]

if you have exchange on your phone, you do get notifications on Calendar application. If there is like a meeting invite, you get a notification and it shows up as a notification badge on the application icon.

[twoodcc]

i'm looking forward to push, but i think that site is faking

[pbkiller]

Fake or not fake, please add the "push" support for the next update, along with widescreen keyboard in SMS and email, SMS forwarding, notifications on the lock screen (email, SMS, missed call, silent/not silent, etc) and the "haptic feedback"

[Rat-Boy]

Man, I almost turned my MobileMe sub back on when I first read this.

I mean, why does MobileMe on the web have To Dos, but they aren't on the phone.

Seems stoooopid if you ask me.

Glad it was proven fake so I didn't waste my time or money on MobileMe.

[herocero]

call quality and dropped calls have INCREASED in metro LA since I updated to 2.2. Apple should get it right first then add features. I thought I was ready to get my rid of my landline.

[phytonix]

turning on push made my battery life suck
I am sure this will do the same
However it is still nice to have it, and turn it on when needed

[Tres]

I can't believe anyone fell for this. Everyone's ******** meters should have been going crazy the minute they learned that it was from a Russian site.

[coolfactor]

To me, it makes little sense to have a badge appear on the Notes app if it is being synced, which makes me a little sceptical.

The Contacts app acts in the same manner now as we would expect the Notes app to behave if it were synced over MobileMe, and there is no need to badge the Contacts app.

Users would not need to be notified of new Notes being pushed to the phone, because they were created by the user themselves on their Mac. Only if Notes were RSS capable or fetching non-user generated Notes would this be necessary, I think?

Agreed 100%. That logic alone makes me think this is a fake. I don't want badges all over my home screens, and this would be a poor usage of them.

[RMo]

OK, I give up (while I confess that I don't use Mail on my Mac, it if it does have this feature [then I could see why!], or the Notes app on my iPod very much): Someone please explain to me why the Notes application would need to have something pushed to it.

[iParis]

Awe man.
If this is released at MacWorld or even slightly before Christmas then it means that we will most likely not see 2.3 anytime soon.
If it's only 2.2.1 then there will probably be only push added.
I am hoping 2.3 will be announced at MacWorld and push along with a but load of other features, i.e. copy/paste and background, are added.

This has been said before but I'll say it again, I hope for this to be released on the iPod touch also.

[h.21]

If it's fake, they did a darn good job of it.

This guy did it.

[jmann]

:( I wish it was true.

[helical]

Maybe the reason Push has been delayed is because its going to be beefed out into something even more impressive and will drop at MWSF along with this rumoured/well overdue note syncing

[gotzaiPhone]

Dude, the author of this "news" himself has confirmed it is NOT TRUE. You can keep hoping if you just don't want to face the reality...

Someone didn't read all the posts before they posted.....

[MacFly123]

Well the push may be false info, but multi-tasking with spaces is on the way some time and I'm sure lots of people will love that.

[Vasileios]

Actually, I think it's the same site that gave us the CONFIRMED rumor that 2.2 was coming in 10 days.

WRONG! The site that gave the CONFIRMED rumor that v2.2 was coming in 10 days was iPhoneHellas.gr (link (http://www.iphonehellas.gr/3546/iphone-v22-released-we-told-you-so/)) and it's a Greek site.

The one with the false rumor about the v2.2.1 is a Russian site...

[TechnoLawyer]

I hope this paves the way for alarm apps that can play a playlist so that we can use any speakers with our iPhone instead of having to buy a clock radio (I'm not a fan of a glowing clock in my bedroom and miss the days of my iPod and iPod HiFi serving as my alarm clock).

[guzhogi]

this better be on touch as well i was rather p.oed that streetview wasnt on 2.2

Knowing Apple, if they do put it on the Touch, it'll be a paid update, not a free one. Damn you, Sarbanes-Oxley act!

[ntrigue]

First off, it's going to be a 2.3 release, not a 0.0.1.

What pertinence would Push have to Notes.app?

[TuffLuffJimmy]

First off, it's going to be a 2.3 release, not a 0.0.1.

What pertinence would Push have to Notes.app?

If you update a note on your computer, in either outlook or Mail.app, then it will push those changes to your phone. Or if you add a note to your phone it will add it to your computer at home.

[specops]

Well the push may be false info, but multi-tasking with spaces is on the way some time and I'm sure lots of people will love that.

wow thats a great idea lol to bad the iphone probably would crap itself if it tried to do that all at the same time lol

[TuffLuffJimmy]

Well the push may be false info, but multi-tasking with spaces is on the way some time and I'm sure lots of people will love that.

Get it working in OS X first please :)

[darijoe]

Well after all, Apple did say that it would be coming in September. But they didn't specify which September!! :D We could be waiting until September 2009 to see it!

[JRTeK]

i think the world gonna end when "push" is released... :rolleyes:

[mackmgg]

according to some1 in the forum (idr who) street view was VERY buggy on the touch, so that might be what comes in 2.2.1

[palmerc2]

this would be a major help

i've got BeeJiveIM (among other apps that would seriously benefit from push) but can't receive any IM's when not in the app :(

sure i stay signed in, but it doesn't let me know i got an IM

[sfh]

is Mobile me the only available push email right now for the Iphone?

[diamond.g]

is Mobile me the only available push email right now for the Iphone?

Nope, Yahoo Mail is supposed to be push as is Exchange ActiveSync.

[bradenwh]

Can't believe this was even posted. Look at the shadow under the badges, the shadow isn't nearly that black on actual badges, they've just made it solid black because they're too crap to draw shadows properly (and too crap to apply fake badges via jailbreak too).

Horrendously fake, ignore.

(Also, can confirm there is no developer betas at this time)

Actually, they look exactly like the badges on a real iPhone. I thought what you thought too, but the shadow is exactly the same on the iPhone in reality.

[jasko]

I hope this will be a holiday present update :)

[Wolfmore]

Yahoo push is working for me right now. I'm on 2.1 using a "free" Yahoo account. I got an email tonight about 1 hour ago and was surprised. I just sent myself an email to test and it worked! I hope it stays like this.

[cheapest]

this is true and I hope it launches before Xmas.

[Elloise]

What a waste of time, although there's something missing.

Allow me to complete this beg thread drivel with "OMGCUT/PASTEPLX".