Anyone have the new 5D MkII yet?

[wheezy]

A high school buddy of mine got his from Inkley's today and the envy inside me is overwhelming! Anyone on here get theirs yet? I'm so excited to see some pictures and videos outside of Vincent Laforet's. He's amazing but I'd like to see some more mortal people take some pics. :)

I'm on pre-order of sorts with a local shop, they'll email me when they have it in and it's my turn and I have 24 hours to go buy it.

[seenew]

I can't believe I got a 5D Mk1 in April for $2,200, and now I could be getting the MK2 for only $500 more. :(

Don't get me wrong, the Mk1 is magnificent, it's just like with all electronics, as soon as you can't wait any longer and take the plunge, they release the new one. :o (I had been waiting six months prior to purchasing the Mk1)

Congrats on the Mk2, though! I'm jealous.

[luminosity]

The 5D is the only camera in Canon's lineup that I'd love to have. It's a beauty.

[mcarnes]

I'm going to try to find one locally tomorrow. I can't find one online from a dealer I trust.

I can't *wait* to start shooting 1080p with my fast L primes.

[rouxeny]

A colleague of mine ordered from Ritz in late September and just received notice that his camera is shipping. I ordered 5 or so days later and haven't heard anything yet.

[Padaung]

My mate got one on Monday. He's out on a job now using it for the first time in anger. From what I saw of his test shots, it is looking damn good. Definite high ISO improvement of about 1.5/2 stops over the old 5D - I don't think it will quite match the efforts of a D3/D700 at the extreme ISO's though. Will need to wait for the online/magazine reviewers to give a definite answer on this over the next few weeks - I don't have a D700 yet for us to be able to compare. Build quality (general feel in the hand) has been improved too.

He just needs Aperture to be updated to handle the RAW files, come on Apple!

PS I looked on the DPR forum for an answer on the 5D2/D700 high ISO comparison issue, those guys don't half prattle on. I do hope we don't come across in the same way on the Macrumors forums!

[FX120]

I doubt it will match the noise performance of the D3/D700... The photosites are just too small. It will probably come close however, I would expect to see noise somewhat in line with what you see out of a 1Ds mkIII...


People gotsta remember that the D5mkII is 21MP vs the D3's 12MP...

[OreoCookie]

I doubt it will match the noise performance of the D3/D700... The photosites are just too small. It will probably come close however, I would expect to see noise somewhat in line with what you see out of a 1Ds mkIII...
Ditto. Hell, even the 50D has worse high ISO noise than its predecessor, the 40D. That's the price you pay if you increase sensor resolution substantially (i. e. decreasing pixel size).

[-hh]

I don't have one on order yet, but the 5DMk2 was the camera that I was waiting for its official announcment before deciding on what to do with my underwater camera system.

Naturally, there's always second thoughts. For example, a Canon PowerShot G10 would result in a significantly smaller UW system ... and be cheaper ... but I'll have to see if it can work to do superior Wide Angle work, since it only opens up to 28mm equivalent (with my Nikonos, I've been shooting 15mm).

Given my most recent vacation trip, one of the things that I found to be a noticable issue at times with my 20D was the autofocus (telephoto & flying birds). My recollection is that the 5DMk2 didn't really receive any changes to its AF sensors, so I don't know how it might compare...

...but as such, AF performance (speed) is going to be one of the things I'll be looking for in reviews, although the comparison baseline should probably be a 40D or 50D, as I could sell one of my 20D bodies to upgrade for the crop-body based telephoto stuff. Nevertheless, the 5DMk2 is for me still is primarily as an interest point for shooting wide wide angle.


-hh

[rouxeny]

Ack! I didn't even think about Aperture and RAW compatability. I just assumed it would be in the works. That's bad, I shoot pretty much 100% RAW.

[mdwsta4]

i have one on preorder to replace my 30d. just waiting for it to arrive.

anyone know of any places in LA that have the body-only in stock?

main thing that concerns me is that i'm using CS3 and apparently that doesn't handle the mkII's raw files? is there an easy/automated way to convert cr2 files to dng to use through adobe camera raw?

[Padaung]

i have one on preorder to replace my 30d. just waiting for it to arrive.

anyone know of any places in LA that have the body-only in stock?

main thing that concerns me is that i'm using CS3 and apparently that doesn't handle the mkII's raw files? is there an easy/automated way to convert cr2 files to dng to use through adobe camera raw?


Here you go:

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4213

It converts the CR2 files into DNG files, with (according to Adobe) no loss in info or quality. The DNG files cn then be opened using ACR CS3 or Aperture/Lightroom. I've not used it myself so can't offer any further help on it I'm afraid.

I do find it annoying that Adobe are not updating the Raw conversion capabilities for a product (CS3) that has been off the shelf for just a few months. It's like Ford saying 'sorry about the tyre blowing, we can replace it with this square wheel or you can buy a new car from us with four new round tyres which will allow you to achieve maximum efficiency.

[wheezy]

I doubt it will match the noise performance of the D3/D700... The photosites are just too small. It will probably come close however, I would expect to see noise somewhat in line with what you see out of a 1Ds mkIII...


People gotsta remember that the D5mkII is 21MP vs the D3's 12MP...

From everything I've heard from the lucky few that were able to play with it pre-release, it's noise is very impressive. The MP count will be a factor but Canon did say it has the highest image quality of any DSLR they've built, even over the current 1Ds mkIII (which will undoubtedly get the updated components pretty soon).

I'm still waiting to see 'in the wild' pictures from people who have it. Maybe I should search flickr....

[FX120]

The ability to have low noise at high ISO sensitivities aren't in any way the deciding factor in how good the images look.

The Fuji S5 is a great example, great dynamic range, great color, great contrast, just all around awesome looking images. Terrible high ISO performance.

[AlaskaMoose]

It seems that this guy is having a good time with his:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/canoneos5dmarkii/pool/

[mcarnes]

Local shop estimates earliest availability is April. That can't be.

[Kebabselector]

Some shops here the UK should have available stock in the next few weeks (well Jacobs, Birmingham)

[CrackedButter]

Some shops here the UK should have available stock in the next few weeks (well Jacobs, Birmingham)

There is an ebay seller I deal with regularly who is selling them for £1899 with 2 year warranty. I couldn't believe it and if I had the cash I'd have bought one off him.

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/e_rakuten_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_mdoZ

I doubt it will match the noise performance of the D3/D700... The photosites are just too small. It will probably come close however, I would expect to see noise somewhat in line with what you see out of a 1Ds mkIII...


People gotsta remember that the D5mkII is 21MP vs the D3's 12MP...

Yet Nikon just released the D3X with 24 megapixels and saying there isn't much loss in quality, I know what your talking about in relation to pixel density. It seems Canon have overcome it. In any case Anandtech report no loss in quality because they did a comparision in ISO performance with the D3 and SONY A900.

http://www.anandtech.com/digitalcameras/showdoc.aspx?i=3470

[Kebabselector]

There is an ebay seller I deal with regularly who is selling them for £1899 with 2 year warranty. I couldn't believe it and if I had the cash I'd have bought one off him.

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/e_rakuten_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_mdoZ

Mmmm, from his auction....


Ship From UK

TAX&DUTY FREE Within EU

Japan version

Made in Japan

comes with 2 year Canon dealer warranty

Canon Europe honor this warranty


Japanese grey import. Canon Europe only honour warranties on bodies bought in the EU. L series lenses are covered by a worldwide warranty. No camera bodies have this warranty (unless it's changed on the 5D Mk2)

Buyer beware!

[Mantat]

I have an order for mine but since I am in Canada and Canada inventory is managed by Canon USA, we wont see many 5D until 2009. Rumors are that Canon USA is keeping 95% of the bodies for domestic sales.

FYI there arent 20x more ppl in the states than in Canada... This really sucks because I had a wedding + a small contract that could have used the ridiculous ISO power of the body...

[CarlsonCustoms]

I'm still waiting for Leo Laporte to get his... heheh

[CrackedButter]

Mmmm, from his auction....



Japanese grey import. Canon Europe only honour warranties on bodies bought in the EU. L series lenses are covered by a worldwide warranty. No camera bodies have this warranty (unless it's changed on the 5D Mk2)

Buyer beware!

Of course the buyer beware but I've bought from him before with no issues. He does state Canon honours the warranty. Which make sense, why would I as a photographer, buy a camera, end up on the other side of the world on a shoot and not have Canon fix the camera for me if it fails while outside the area it was purchased?

[Kebabselector]

Just because he said Canon honour the warranty doesn't mean they do. I know some ebay importers (like Digital-Rev) have local UK agents who will deal with the warranty return.

[tonyeck]

Oh how I love this camera

[mdwsta4]

forgot about this thread. my preorder came in saturday. unfortunately, have had papers to write for finals this week and no time to shoot. here are some quick and dirty snaps. jpegs straight out of camera (have CS3, need to download DNG converter as the 5dmkii RAW files aren't supported).


ISO 5000 (ceiling is textured)
http://images43.fotki.com/v1381/photos/5/51621/7000063/IMG_0007-vi.jpg

ISO 6400
http://images43.fotki.com/v1385/photos/5/51621/7000063/IMG_0022-vi.jpg

ISO 100
my 17-40 is now a lot more fun!
http://images44.fotki.com/v1420/photos/5/51621/7000063/IMG_0028-vi.jpg

and the camera itself taken by my 30d
http://images45.fotki.com/v1422/photos/5/51621/4246907/IMG_8647-vi.jpg

[luminosity]

The ISO 5000 shot is phenomenal.

[PCMacUser]

Yes, it's very good low light performance - incredible to think that a camera can shoot at iso5000 or 6400! I'm still using ISO50 black and white film...

[wheelhot]

nice quality, can't wait for DPReview of the 5D MKII :)

[tonyeck]

Put some of my crap here:

http://tonyeckersley.smugmug.com/gallery/6766314_6aiq5#432089747_uBJv5

and video here:

http://vimeo.com/2457046

[Phrasikleia]

Put some of my crap here:

http://tonyeckersley.smugmug.com/gallery/6766314_6aiq5#432089747_uBJv5

and video here:

http://vimeo.com/2457046

I am absolutely drooling over those smugmug photos. Where did you take those photos of the river? Outstanding!

[tonyeck]

I am absolutely drooling over those smugmug photos. Where did you take those photos of the river? Outstanding!

Why thank you :)

The rivier is the Potomac a few miles north west of DC in the DC metro area called Great Falls National Park

[PCMacUser]

Why thank you :)

The rivier is the Potomac a few miles north west of DC in the DC metro area called Great Falls National Park

Interesting looking river. The lighting is a bit flat and the compositions are a bit tight, but good effort. Just thought I'd balance out the 'drool' :)

[tonyeck]

Interesting looking river. The lighting is a bit flat and the compositions are a bit tight, but good effort. Just thought I'd balance out the 'drool' :)

:) It wasn't a great day to be outdoors I'll have to be honest... I agree that they are a little tight... Still getting used to this full frame thing :)

Thanks

[fiercetiger224]

I want... :D

I need a full-frame camera...Need to make use of my 24mm L lens eventually. ;)

[ebutka]

I got mine!!

[noakail]

So Jealous! I just want to buy a used 40D and a good lens. Looks like I’ll have to stick with my G9 for a few more months.

[whoathere]

A friend of mine got his last Thursday. Obviously, I stopped by to take a look. It is amazing. The video is great, photo's are great. Overall, a good camera, which comes with it's price tag. One thing he showed me that I thought was cool, and being a novice, don't know if it's common or not, was the camera has an 'option' to zoom in real tight on something, so you can focus perfectly and then you just back out and then your subject is in perfect focus, no guessing. The lens is not doing the zooming, but the camera does. Maybe I didn't explain it well, but I thought it was neat.

[leahmariv]

I got mine!!

do you mind me asking where you got yours at. im still waiting for mine :) im so excited!!

[luminosity]

A friend of mine got his last Thursday. Obviously, I stopped by to take a look. It is amazing. The video is great, photo's are great. Overall, a good camera, which comes with it's price tag. One thing he showed me that I thought was cool, and being a novice, don't know if it's common or not, was the camera has an 'option' to zoom in real tight on something, so you can focus perfectly and then you just back out and then your subject is in perfect focus, no guessing. The lens is not doing the zooming, but the camera does. Maybe I didn't explain it well, but I thought it was neat.

Sounds like something out of a Cybershot.

[SWC]

Sounds like something out of a Cybershot.

It's the live view magnification.

[The3nd]

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/4207/5diipu5.jpg

Just picked up a few hours ago at a Best Buy, I hate paying taxes but I hate waiting more. Plus got 4 year accidental protection....

[wheelhot]

Oo, does that L lens came as standard?

[j/k/Andy]

How does auto focus work in HD movie mode? Like a camcorder?

[The3nd]

Oo, does that L lens came as standard?


Ohhh noo, you can purchase it with a 24-105L but that costs 800 more over body. That's a 14mm 2.8L II on mine cost's almost as much as the camera itself..

[anubis]

My Rebel XT has been feeling a bit long in the tooth for a while now... I don't have nearly the money to buy a 5d Mark II but I've noticed a sudden surge in the number of used camera listings on eBay and craigslist for 5d Mark I's and 40D's, mostly because their Mark II's are arriving. Hopefully that will drive the price down on Mark I's and 40Ds so I can get a good price on a used one of those.

[lucidmedia]

How does auto focus work in HD movie mode? Like a camcorder?

I don't think so (but I have not had a ton of time to play with mine). It does adjust ISO dynamically, but I believe that it does not autofocus.

Interestingly enough, you can take photos while capturing video...

[wheelhot]

Interestingly enough, you can take photos while capturing video...

Wow, thats a cool feature. Lets hope its not a bug and a feature cause I always believe that some events are better in video but there are some scenes where photos will give a unique effect.

I wonder why Canon did not build a built-in-flash for the 5D while Nikon compact full frame has a built-in-flash.

[lucidmedia]

Wow, thats a cool feature. Lets hope its not a bug and a feature cause I always believe that some events are better in video but there are some scenes where photos will give a unique effect.

I wonder why Canon did not build a built-in-flash for the 5D while Nikon compact full frame has a built-in-flash.

its def. a feature. Fully documented in the manual.

As a professional camera, I don't see the use or need for a small, on the camera flash. I am glad they left if off.

[wheezy]

Wow, thats a cool feature. Lets hope its not a bug and a feature cause I always believe that some events are better in video but there are some scenes where photos will give a unique effect.

I wonder why Canon did not build a built-in-flash for the 5D while Nikon compact full frame has a built-in-flash.

It was not included on the first 5D either, or on the 1D series. When you get that level of professionalism, you use your own flash/lighting.

[luminosity]

Built in flashes are entirely inadequate for just about all photography above personal snapshots.

[wheelhot]

Yeah, you guys got a point about it being a pro camera and pros will own external flash but I guess its just a matter of convenience?

[Squelch]

For those of you that have it, I have a question:

When you're taking video, is it possible to use a zoom lens? Does the camera maintain focus while zooming, or do you just have to use a high aperture to get a broad depth of field? I'm guessing it's the latter - so somehow video is shot in Av mode, with a fixed high aperture. But I'd like someone who actually has the camera to tell me.

Thanks!

[lucidmedia]

For those of you that have it, I have a question:

When you're taking video, is it possible to use a zoom lens? Does the camera maintain focus while zooming, or do you just have to use a high aperture to get a broad depth of field? I'm guessing it's the latter - so somehow video is shot in Av mode, with a fixed high aperture. But I'd like someone who actually has the camera to tell me.

Thanks!

No. The camera does not autofocus automatically for you while in movie mode. In some modes you can trigger an autofocus, but the camera may hunt or change its exposure settings.

Manual focus works fine of course.

So, its more "traditional movie camera" than "camcorder". As I am playing with it, I think I might prefer it that way.

[ebutka]

do you mind me asking where you got yours at. im still waiting for mine :) im so excited!!

Best Buy!!

[ebutka]

For those of you that have it, I have a question:

When you're taking video, is it possible to use a zoom lens? Does the camera maintain focus while zooming, or do you just have to use a high aperture to get a broad depth of field? I'm guessing it's the latter - so somehow video is shot in Av mode, with a fixed high aperture. But I'd like someone who actually has the camera to tell me.

Thanks!

Yes you can zoom, no he does not retain the focus. It's cool if its on a tripod, then you can use both hands.

[Squelch]

Ok, thanks for answering my question! :D

[rouxeny]

Cancelled my order. Plan on using the cash for other things, but I will eventualy get it I'm sure.

[CPPhoto]

mine just arrived this morning

as far as i can tell, the images will be amazing, but, sadly without apple's support for aperture and OSX for the 5DMKII, im still waiting to look at raw files.

On another note, i did shoot a small 22 second 1080p clip for the heck of it, and it turned out to be 150 MB! Also, using live AF, with the built in mike you can hear every zoom ring turn, every af motor sound, etc..

[Kebabselector]

without apple's support for aperture and OSX for the 5DMKII, im still waiting to look at raw files.

Why not install Canon's Digital Photo Professional software?

[vga4life]

its def. a feature. Fully documented in the manual.

As a professional camera, I don't see the use or need for a small, on the camera flash. I am glad they left if off.

I do wish the 5DII had a built-in ST-E2-equivalent remote trigger. I've always been jealous of the pop-up flash remote trigger feature on the Nikons. Not that the ST-E2 is that bulky, but it's one more thing to carry that should be a built-in feature.

[CPPhoto]

it would be a pain in the butt to mess with my D.A.M. system now..so im just waiting and using my mark IIn's...but alas, ironically, an update came out this morning.

[wheezy]

as far as i can tell, the images will be amazing, but, sadly without apple's support for aperture and OSX for the 5DMKII, im still waiting to look at raw files.

Camera RAW Updater 12/18/08 (http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/application_updates/digitalcamerarawcompatibilityupdate24.html)

I was at a Best Buy tonight in Salem Oregon and they had one on display, $2699. The associate there said they had one in stock. If only I had the freakin' cash! No sales tax here either...