What do you think is the good human life? Please post here

[sheebal]

Hello all. Recently, I've seen a video of Darfur and the children being abused since they were four years old. This greatly saddened me about how the world revovled around me while I'm here living in America with a good wife, sister, brother, family, car, house, clothes, shelther, and food.

I just want some input from the MacRumors community on what you guys believe should a basic human life should be.

Here is my list


Food
Shelter
Family
Love
A Macintosh :P



I really believe that we should currently do more than what we are doing in order to stop this international crisis of genocide. It truly does sadden me.

Thank you to everyone who contributes to this thread.

Please do not go into politics or economics on this matter. This is only about what the basic human life should be. What should be allowed/should not be.

[ZiggyPastorius]

I will add music to that list.

[dukebound85]

we are definitly very privileged and i wont lie, i often take it for granted.

funny how some people think they are better than others just because they happened to be born in a more well off family by pure CHANCE

ill add a sense of belonging/purpose within a community to your list

[robanga]

1. Love for God
2. Love/Marriage
3. Children
4. Work
5. Tech Stuff :)

Exactly in that order

[63dot]

Two people have mentioned high tech products. I can hardly do anything without my computer but I actually know successful people who have never used one to this day.

The first 4 on the OP's list, plus faith, are basic needs.

[nickspohn]

god
family
shelter
food
cars

[No1451]

Faith in a higher power? No thanks.

Unfailing faith in myself, absolutely necessary.

What we do need:

1) Food
2) Shelter
3) Safety

Everything after that is a luxury

[TuffLuffJimmy]

Faith in a god is hardly a something everyone needs, especially if you pick the wrong one.

1. Food/shelter/community
2. Sense of belonging.
3. Love
4. Music (it really is vital to human survival)

[QuarterSwede]

Faith in a higher power? No thanks.

Unfailing faith in myself, absolutely necessary.

What we do need:

1) Food
2) Shelter
3) Safety

Everything after that is a luxury
While I disagree with your faith statement (and find it completely unnecessary that you felt the need to belittle everyone else), I do agree that Food and Shelter are necessary for a good life. People would be surprised how happy they can be just by helping someone else out.

So:
1) Faith
2) Food
3) Shelter
4) Helping others

[ZiggyPastorius]

Faith in a higher power? No thanks.

Unfailing faith in myself, absolutely necessary.

What we do need:

1) Food
2) Shelter
3) Safety

Everything after that is a luxury

I wanted to say the exact same thing, but I didn't want to be responsible for a downhill religious discussion that got the thread closed (that's usually what happens as soon as religion is brought up). Plenty of people live great lives, though, without religious faith, so I wouldn't call it a necessity.

(and find it completely unnecessary that you felt the need to belittle everyone else)

I don't think it was belittling at all. He pointed out that he disagreed that faith in God is necessary to live a good life and offered his own positive spin on the statement. I don't think he meant it to be insulting, nor do I think it was.

[KingYaba]

Jimmy Valvano once said that we should do three things every day: We should think, we should laugh, and we should cry.

[dukebound85]

Faith in a god is hardly a something everyone needs, especially if you pick the wrong one.

1. Food/shelter/community
2. Sense of belonging.
3. Love
4. Music (it really is vital to human survival)

and ill say music is hardly something everyone needs by that logic;)

to each his own, just dont belittle someone's faith if you dont want someone to belittle your values. its important to them and they are entitiled to that opinion

[robanga]

I wanted to say the exact same thing, but I didn't want to be responsible for a downhill religious discussion that got the thread closed (that's usually what happens as soon as religion is brought up). Plenty of people live great lives, though, without religious faith, so I wouldn't call it a necessity.

just by all of you saying things like this, you are sending the thread down that rabbit hole. Can't resist? Why not just state your values and move on.

That is the issue with these threads sadly.

Ah well Merry ...er...Happy ...Holida....um have a great December :D

[TuffLuffJimmy]

and ill say music is hardly something everyone needs by that logic;)

to each his own, just dont belittle someone's faith if you dont want someone to belittle your values. its important to them and they are entitiled to that opinion

Mayhaps. But I have yet to find anyone who doesn't enjoy a beat, even deaf people love to feel musical vibrations, but there are millions of perfectly happy people living without a religion or faith.

[.Andy]

People are leaving sex off their lists :(. It's very important for relationships and happiness.

[dukebound85]

People are leaving sex off their lists :(. It's very important for relationships and happiness.

i would think thats included in love/marriage lol but i agree

[robanga]

People are leaving sex off their lists :(. It's very important for relationships and happiness.

Well for many of us that is implied in the love/marriage thing I am guessing.:)

[TuffLuffJimmy]

People are leaving sex off their lists :(. It's very important for relationships and happiness.

I knew my list needed five things, but I could only think of four!

[.Andy]

i would think thats included in love/marriage lol but i agree

Well for many of us that is implied in the love/marriage thing I am guessing.:)

I knew my list needed five things, but I could only think of four!
It's too late to get on the sex bandwagon™ :p!

[me_94501]

Aside from the basics (food, water, shelter, clothing), all you need is love--love of God (if you believe in God), love of your fellow humans, love of your planet, etc... Imagine what the world would be like if everyone truly put love first.

[ZiggyPastorius]

Aside from the basics (food, water, shelter, clothing), all you need is love--love of God (if you believe in God), love of your fellow humans, love of your planet, etc... Imagine what the world would be like if everyone truly put love first.

*sings* Imagine all the people living for today... /singing

Perhaps everyone should listen to Imagine by John Lennon tonight :p Good for the soul. Or even better, David Bowie's cover.

[EricNau]

In addition to those already mentioned, critical thinking.

[63dot]

It's too late to get on the sex bandwagon™ :p!

Without that, the entire human race would perish in just over a century. Actually, a great theme for a science fiction novel, if not already done.

[Prof.]

I just threw up a lil bit after reading ppl putting God first and their family second.
Faith in a god is hardly a something everyone needs, especially if you pick the wrong one.
You can choose to believe in the wrong God? Hmhmm didn't know that.

[dukebound85]

I just threw up a lil bit after reading ppl putting God first and their family second.

um good for you:rolleyes:

please dont make fun of others beliefs unless you are ready to be made fun of yourself

in short, respect others beliefs if you, yourself, want respect

[mgguy]

Bliss Consciousness.

[Rower_CPU]

Sorry to the OP, but this is a social discussion and will elicit social/religious responses. It needs to be in the PRSI.

[Prof.]

um good for you:rolleyes:

please dont make fun of others beliefs unless you are ready to be made fun of yourself

in short, respect others beliefs if you, yourself, want respect
I do respect other ppls beliefs and religions. In fact, I'm the first one to defend other ppl for their religious beliefs when they are under attack. I just don't see how one could put their family second in any situation.

[jonbravo77]

Respect. Respect to all living things. Respect to eachother in whatever your beliefs are. Just simple, un-adulterated Respect.

I believe that pretty much covers many if not all of what it is needed to be human.

[robanga]

I do respect other ppls beliefs and religions. In fact, I'm the first one to defend other ppl for their religious beliefs when they are under attack. I just don't see how one could put their family second in any situation.

..and that is the key YOU don't understand that. But it is someones value, so why question it? There is a lot of things I do not understand about people, but if I chose to call them out on it....well i would certainly never leave the forums.;)

[emt1]

Donuts.

[dukebound85]

I do respect other ppls beliefs and religions. In fact, I'm the first one to defend other ppl for their religious beliefs when they are under attack. I just don't see how one could put their family second in any situation.

then you don't quite understand religion apparently

anyways, enough of me derailing the thread

[Iscariot]

Attaining perfection of the human form.