Apple Releases Firmware Updates for 'Late 2008' Portables

[MacRumors]

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Apple today released a number of firmware updates for the "Late 2008" MacBook, MacBook Pro, and MacBook Air. Each model requires two separate firmware updates.

EFI Firmware Updates: The Extensible Firmware Interface (EFI) specifies the interface between a computer's firmware and the operating system. These updates address several issues related to system stability. Further information and installation instructions can be found on Apple's support page (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3260).

SMC Firmware Updates: The System Management Controller (SMC) controls various power-related functions. According to Apple, these updates address the "sensing and accuracy of the MagSafe Power Adapter indicator light, and the battery charge indicator lights." General information and installation instructions for SMC updates can be found on Apple's support page (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2368).

MacBook EFI Firmware Update 1.3 (http://support.apple.com/downloads/MacBook_EFI_Firmware_Update_1_3) (1.8 MB)
MacBook SMC Firmware Update 1.2 (http://support.apple.com/downloads/MacBook_SMC_Firmware_Update_1_2) (556 KB)

MacBook Pro EFI Firmware Update 1.6 (http://support.apple.com/downloads/MacBook_Pro_EFI_Firmware_Update_1_6) (1.9 MB)
MacBook Pro 15-inch SMC Firmware Update 1.2 (http://support.apple.com/downloads/MacBook_Pro_15_inch_SMC_Firmware_Update_1_2) (559 KB)

MacBook Air EFI Firmware Update 1.1 (http://support.apple.com/downloads/MacBook_Air_EFI_Firmware_Update_1_1) (2.4 MB)
MacBook Air SMC Firmware Update 1.1 (http://support.apple.com/downloads/MacBook_Air_SMC_Firmware_Update_1_1) (556 KB)



Article Link: Apple Releases Firmware Updates for 'Late 2008' Portables (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/12/10/apple-releases-firmware-updates-for-late-2008-portables/)

[stovetop6872]

It's about time! :D

[Auzburner]

Updates are always good, it's too bad they made the problem in the first place. Then most stability updates would not be necessary.

[rlmccormick]

I wonder if the MBPs power consumption while in sleep mode will be improved. I lose ~20% of my battery in 12 hours while in sleep mode :(

[chimpy72]

I thought the SMC updates would address the supposed nVidia issues, not charging lights...

Can we get any reports from anyone to say if these updates fixed that problem?

[schneb]

Does this include the new MacBook Whites?

[rlmccormick]

Does this include the new MacBook Whites?

Highly doubtful.

[nippyjun]

Is it ok to delete the files from the utilities folder after the updates are successfully completed?

Also, there was a past trackpad update that i performed and i see that that file is in my utilities folder as well. Can that be deleted too?

Thanks.

[daneoni]

Hmmm call me a cynic but i have the weird feeling the firmwares are just gonna 'adjust' the GPUs (down-clock) or boost the fans so they 'perform better'

[fendol]

No need to be rude :)

It's good that they "took the time" and released these firmware updates. Thanks for posting macbot :cool::apple:http://seoagora.com/img/1261/v08t1201sxfb/cheers.gifhttp://seoagora.com/img/589/d08l1104oulu/smiley2.gif

[Kilamite]

Any news on whether this fixes any trackpad issues and the whole 4GB issue?

[MLeepson]

SMC Firmware Updates: The System Management Controller (SMC) controls various power-related functions. According to Apple, these updates address the "sensing and accuracy of the MagSafe Power Adapter indicator light, and the battery charge indicator lights." General information and installation instructions for SMC updates can be found on Apple's support page (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2368).

I have a Late 2008 MacBook.
I have noticed that the indicator light on the MagSafe occasionally/randomly goes out. I will do this update ASAP and see if it fixes it.

[mackpro]

I have a Late 2008 MacBook.
I have noticed that the indicator light on the MagSafe occasionally/randomly goes out. I will do this update ASAP and see if it fixes it.


I have the late 08 macbook pro and experience the same problem. This should fixx it. :confused:

[calvy]

is it available via software update?

[cosmokanga2]

Odd. Am I the only one who only sees one new update?

EDIT: Wait a second. I only saw one update in software update, but once it had installed and closed another update came up. Interesting. Requires shutdown.

Update: Updated and working. No noticeable changes, though fingers crossed if fixes the sleep issue.

[Soat]

In true Apple update fashion, switching between GPUs "feels snappier."

Now if it stops BlSODing in the middle of WoW raid bosses while I'm main tanking, that remains to be seen...

[longofest]

I have a Late 2008 MacBook.
I have noticed that the indicator light on the MagSafe occasionally/randomly goes out. I will do this update ASAP and see if it fixes it.

That's an issue with the Magsafe, not the laptop. See this thread from 2007 (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=307824).

Google search (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en-us&q=magsafe+light+goes+out&btnG=Search) = "magsafe light goes out"

EDIT: though the SMC updater does appear to indicate that their is some kind of update... interesting...

[eleven2brett]

Has anybody notice the performance change?

[tekmoe]

Just installed both updates. I'm hoping the EFI update takes care of the issue with my MacBook Pro waking up out of sleep mode with the OHC2 wake reason code. *crosses fingers*

[maxshanly]

I had an appointment at the Genius Bar on Saturday and the Mac Genius replaced my MagSafe Power Adapter because like me, he thought it was faulty. Turned out it just needed an EFI Update!

[ErikCLDR]

I hope this improves charge time. Also my alumacbook uses so much power while sleeping.

[Bryanj026]

In true Apple update fashion, switching between GPUs "feels snappier."

Now if it stops BlSODing in the middle of WoW raid bosses while I'm main tanking, that remains to be seen...

Download SMCfancontrol and use that while playing wow. I personally don't have any experience with this BlSOD thing but from what I understand its a heating issue. SMCfancontrol does what apple should have put in there computer to begin with but I guess they felt we can adjust the fan speed manually. anyway I hope this helps.

[cRuNcHiE]

I installed the EFI update and all went fine.

Installed the SMC update and as it updates (during the reboot) the fans went on full blast.
It rebooted on completion and now back in leopard the fans seem to be running faster than usual at idle on the left side of the keyboard. I presume this is where the GFX card is.

[teknishn]

Interesting... I just tried to apply both new updates to my new mbp that I received Monday. It came back saying my system already had the updates applied. Appears that they have had this update done for at least a week then.

Aside from that, I have absolutely ZERO complaints about this new rig. I love it, and its absolutely fantastic.

[Bryanj026]

I installed the EFI update and all went fine.

Installed the SMC update and as it updates (during the reboot) the fans went on full blast.
It rebooted on completion and now back in leopard the fans seem to be running faster than usual at idle on the left side of the keyboard. I presume this is where the GFX card is.

I noticed that too but they returned to normal after a minute. I'm trying to get my computer nice and hot now in hopes that apple has installed some kind of heat monitor. so far cpu 140F and GPU around 135F. I would think the fans would kick in my now but I guess I was wrong. Looks like manual adjustment through smcfancontrol ftw

[kousuke18]

anyways glad to see apple ironing out bugs.:)

[MLeepson]

I just did both updates.
The SMC wasn't in software update, I got it from Apple.com.
No problems.
SMC rev'd up the fan and messed with the MagSafe indicator light.
The EFI just made me hold down the power button, and a took about a minute.

[aimbdd]

Download SMCfancontrol and use that while playing wow. I personally don't have any experience with this BlSOD thing but from what I understand its a heating issue. SMCfancontrol does what apple should have put in there computer to begin with but I guess they felt we can adjust the fan speed manually. anyway I hope this helps.

Nope it fixes the fan control too. Turned on my computer and they run slightly higher when idle now. Try wow/ other games now and it should be good

[Bryanj026]

my cpu seems to be running about 5-10 degrees F hotter now. I kind of liked it when it stayed below 100.

[Bryanj026]

Nope it fixes the fan control too. Turned on my computer and they run slightly higher when idle now. Try wow/ other games now and it should be good

they should calm down after a minute or two. I got my cpu and gpu up to 145 degrees F and nothing happened with the fans.

[Cozmo85]

EFI update showed up on software update. installed and rebooted and then the smc update showed up. This is on aluminum 2.4 macbook

[Knolly]

my cpu seems to be running about 5-10 degrees F hotter now. I kind of liked it when it stayed below 100.

The CPU can't damage itself until it's well above 212 F, so seriously, no worries.

[Bryanj026]

The CPU can't damage itself until it's well above 212 F, so seriously, no worries.

well yeah but when you set it on your lap the heat can get a little annoying after awhile (unless its cold in the room:)). I know 5-10 degrees won't make a huge difference though.

[DLC]

I did both of these updates on an MBP 2.4/2GB.

I'd been having a problem in BootCamp, running XP, with DirectX9 games like Painkiller and Half-Life 2. Quake 4 and Max Payne run brilliantly, but they're OpenGL and DX8 games, respectively.

This has, so far, not helped. The BKSOD remains an issue.

I'm in the process of doing a clean install of the latest build of the NVidia drivers from laptopvideo2go (180.84).

[Bryanj026]

I did both of these updates on an MBP 2.4/2GB.

I'd been having a problem in BootCamp, running XP, with DirectX9 games like Painkiller and Half-Life 2. Quake 4 and Max Payne run brilliantly, but they're OpenGL and DX8 games, respectively.

This has, so far, not helped. The BKSOD remains an issue.

I'm in the process of doing a clean install of the latest build of the NVidia drivers from laptopvideo2go (180.84).

have you tried installing smcfancontrol??

[tseitz89]

ive only had the updates for about 20mins so far, but ussually after i reboot firefox takes many "bounces" to start up (a long time) after this it starts alot faster, secondly default fan speed on my MBP has increased from 2000 to 3000rpm and i'm using my 9400 right now

[Bryanj026]

ive only had the updates for about 20mins so far, but ussually after i reboot firefox takes many "bounces" to start up (a long time) after this it starts alot faster, secondly default fan speed on my MBP has increased from 2000 to 3000rpm and i'm using my 9400 right now

are they still at 3000rpm's? if so what is your cpu and gpu temp?

[abijnk]

have you tried installing smcfancontrol??

That's a mac program. Won't do any good in XP.

Surely someone has seen whether or not the "insomnia" problem is gone? I can't wait to get home and find out. :o

[DLC]

have you tried installing smcfancontrol??

Unless there's a Windows version, I don't think it'll work.

Quake 4, as I mentioned, runs perfectly, as does Max Payne. The fans turn on, whirring away as the GPU cranks on the pixels and texels, and I don't have a problem.

I played through the entire Quake 4 single-player campaign with no problems, and am 2/3rd the way through Max Payne, yet I can't go for more than 120 seconds in either Half-Life 2 or Painkiller.

[tseitz89]

are they still at 3000rpm's? if so what is your cpu and gpu temp?

yes they still are, cpu 108F gpu104F

[Bryanj026]

That's a mac program. Won't do any good in XP.

Surely someone has seen whether or not the "insomnia" problem is gone? I can't wait to get home and find out. :o

you have to run fancontrol in osx then when you restart to xp the settings will carry over so the fans will be running at a higher speed in xp. assuming you are using bootcamp that is

[Bryanj026]

yes they still are, cpu 108F gpu104F

hmmm..... mine slowly rose to 5000rpms then slowly returned to a normal 2000 rpms and they are still at that speed. 2.4 MBP

[abijnk]

you have to run fancontrol in osx then when you restart to xp the settings will carry over so the fans will be running at a higher speed in xp.

Oh, I've never gotten that to work before. :(

[tseitz89]

hmmm..... mine slowly rose to 5000rpms then slowly returned to a normal 2000 rpms and they are still at that speed. 2.4 MBP


yep my bad smcfancontrol's setting were still active even though it was shutdown, fans at 2000rpms now

[shoulin333]

Oh, I've never gotten that (SMC Fan Control) to work before. :(

Just make sure you are using the OSX version, it is very simple ... sits up top by your clock... i finally am able to game with this thing... even on my lap! with this.. i set the fans to 6,000 RPM then boot into vista... ya it's loud but this way it only gets warm at most, no more burning. And plus i play games with either the speakers cranked up or headphones in. The fan noise is a non issue.

[Bryanj026]

Oh, I've never gotten that to work before. :(

works for me all the time. Its almost necessary when using bootcamp.... ESPECIALLY when running dedicated graphics. I wouldn't be surprised if gpu/cpu reached around the 200's (F) when doing that. SMCfan, at full speed should stop the BKSOD from what I understand of the issue

[DLC]

you have to run fancontrol in osx then when you restart to xp the settings will carry over so the fans will be running at a higher speed in xp. assuming you are using bootcamp that is

Very good to know.

[Hawkeye411]

The EFI update showed up in Software Update. I installed it and then, after the reboot, the SMC update showed up in Software Update. After the reboot, the fan speeds slowly increased to 4500 and then went back down to 2000 with a CPU temp of 108.

Cheers.

Edit: Oh ... and of course ... it seems much "snappier" now ;)

[Anthony82]

What they should do now is make a Firmware update for us 06 iMac users, my DualLayer Dvd drive hasn't worked the right way since the last Firmware update, doesn't let me use Dual Layer disks anymore and won't let me use my Windata DVDs that used to work perfectly fine before the updates. :mad: And in the Mac-forums many have had this problem, not just me. Makes me pretty mad that they don't even look into this problem.

[J the Ninja]

Yeah, tried some stress testing on the machine in my sig after updating. Definitely more trigger happy with the fans now. iStat Menu shows them speeding up to around 3200rpm with the CPU at 75C (before it let it get to around 90C)

[Bryanj026]

What they should do now is make a Firmware update for us 06 iMac users, my DualLayer Dvd drive hasn't worked the right way since the last Firmware update, doesn't let me use Dual Layer disks anymore and won't let me use my Windata DVDs that used to work perfectly fine before the updates. :mad: And in the Mac-forums many have had this problem, not just me. Makes me pretty mad that they don't even look into this problem.

06?...... you should still have apple care coverage....... you did buy the extended warranty didn't you? bwahaha

[DLC]

Just tried the smcFanControl trick.

Set the fans to full, rebooted into XP and ran Painkiller.

It went about 10 minutes before the BKSOD, which is a LOT longer than it has in the past.

Closer, but not quite there yet.

Also, MacOS seems to come up much, much slower into Finder now.

[Bryanj026]

Yeah, tried some stress testing on the machine in my sig after updating. Definitely more trigger happy with the fans now. iStat Menu shows them speeding up to around 3200rpm with the CPU at 75C (before it let it get to around 90C)

wow 90C thats pretty freakin hot.

[Bryanj026]

Just tried the smcFanControl trick.

Set the fans to full, rebooted into XP and ran Painkiller.

It went about 10 minutes before the BKSOD, which is a LOT longer than it has in the past.

Closer, but not quite there yet.

thanks for the test run.... I guess its not a fix then.

[Soat]

Download SMCfancontrol and use that while playing wow. I personally don't have any experience with this BlSOD thing but from what I understand its a heating issue. SMCfancontrol does what apple should have put in there computer to begin with but I guess they felt we can adjust the fan speed manually. anyway I hope this helps.

I've used smcfancontrol since it was a glimmer in Hendrik Holtmann's eye, and I've had to use 9400M during prolonged gaming sessions because I couldn't risk dropping in the middle of a critical fight.

I've been logged in Dalaran and flying around Icecrown for over an hour and no problems yet. I only ever seemed to BlSOD during boss fights when spell effects were everywhere (i.e. the card getting stressed), so who knows. 75c now, which is about where it was pre-EFI patch, but so far so good. I'll keep you guys updated.

[hob]

I wonder if this will fix the crazy displays I sometimes get when coming back from hibernation mode...

Last night my Apple logo appeared 1/3 of the way across the screen!

(oh, and so it doesn't often display the desktop but instead the apple boot logo screen thinger)

[TheSVD]

wtf!
so ive ordered my MBP, and its just gunna be messed up from gaming and im gunna have to control fans myself?
not too happy with that :mad:

[gonnabuyamac]

Do they even test these things before release anymore? It seems like Apple hardware goes out, and then the first few months are for working out bugs. I realize that you can't prepare for every situation that every user will encounter, but so many of the problems are across the board kinds of issues.

I would be stoked if Apple didn't release any new hardware for a year and just completely focused on their quality - kind of like what they're doing with Snow Leopard... no super flashy new features, just a solid reworking and polishing.

One can dream. :rolleyes:

[Bryanj026]

I wonder if this will fix the crazy displays I sometimes get when coming back from hibernation mode...

Last night my Apple logo appeared 1/3 of the way across the screen!

(oh, and so it doesn't often display the desktop but instead the apple boot logo screen thinger)

you may want to run tech tools on your graphics processor. I think there would be a larger disturbance than just a desktop background issue if there were anything wrong..... I would check if it were mine though just for piece of mind

[Eidorian]

Hmmm call me a cynic but i have the weird feeling the firmwares are just gonna 'adjust' the GPUs (down-clock) or boost the fans so they 'perform better'That's what I think as well. It'll be nice to see how the fans react now to 100° C.

[shoulin333]

I wonder if this will fix the crazy displays I sometimes get when coming back from hibernation mode...

Last night my Apple logo appeared 1/3 of the way across the screen!

(oh, and so it doesn't often display the desktop but instead the apple boot logo screen thinger)


Maybe this will fix my issue, sometimes from waking from sleep my external screen is just fuzz, like an old TV (i think it has something to do with HDCP not re connecting as the image looks scrambled) Anyone else experience this? not a big deal as a simple unplug and re plug fixes the issue... I just set that when i am plugged in the machine never hibernates / sleeps and i have no problem... cept when i forget to plugin, DOH!

[Bryanj026]

wtf!
so ive ordered my MBP, and its just gunna be messed up from gaming and im gunna have to control fans myself?
not too happy with that :mad:

yeah not a lot of new mac users realize that, including myself. I was dissappointed too especially for the money we pay for these things

[zorahk]

Hey guys I just did both updates but I noticed something.
Apple claims it updates the EFI to MBP51.0074.01B

My EFI after update reads MBP51.0074.B01

What the hell is going on here? Is something wrong? What does everyone else's read? (System profiler for those who don't know how to look)

[hob]

you may want to run tech tools on your graphics processor. I think there would be a larger disturbance than just a desktop background issue if there were anything wrong..... I would check if it were mine though just for piece of mind

I do sometimes get some weird scrambled stuff as well just before the system fully comes back...

[TheSVD]

yeah not a lot of new mac users realize that, including myself. I was dissappointed too especially for the money we pay for these things
yeah!
£1,180 (Higher Education Discount ;)) aint cheap!
ah well, got applecare.
For 50 quid too, cause of discount. Not bad eh :D

[Bryanj026]

Maybe this will fix my issue, sometimes from waking from sleep my external screen is just fuzz, like an old TV (i think it has something to do with HDCP not re connecting as the image looks scrambled) Anyone else experience this? not a big deal as a simple unplug and re plug fixes the issue... I just set that when i am plugged in the machine never hibernates / sleeps and i have no problem... cept when i forget to plugin, DOH!

I have my MBP hooked up to my 42" HD display and I get that static display too, but it usually goes away after a couple seconds. hopefully this firmware update addresses that

[hob]

Hey guys I just did both updates but I noticed something.
Apple claims it updates the EFI to MBP51.0074.01B

My EFI after update reads MBP51.0074.B01

What the hell is going on here? Is something wrong? What does everyone else's read? (System profiler for those who don't know how to look)

I'm on B01 as well. Probably just a typo somewhere along the line... :o

[Bill&Rose]

I am not sure if I need this update or not. When I run software update it says my computer is up to date.

This is what my system has, can someone tell me if this is the current versions?

Hardware Overview:

Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro4,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 3 MB
Memory: 4 GB
Bus Speed: 800 MHz
Boot ROM Version: MBP41.00C1.B03
SMC Version: 1.27f1
Serial Number:
Sudden Motion Sensor:
State: Enabled

[Bryanj026]

I am not sure if I need this update or not. When I run software update it says my computer is up to date.

This is what my system has, can someone tell me if this is the current versions?

Hardware Overview:

Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro4,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 3 MB
Memory: 4 GB
Bus Speed: 800 MHz
Boot ROM Version: MBP41.00C1.B03
SMC Version: 1.27f1
Serial Number:
Sudden Motion Sensor:
State: Enabled

this is only for the late 2008 (unibody) MBP's

[hob]

That's an older MBP.

Mine is MBP 5,1

Which is now running:

Boot ROM Version: MBP51.0074.B01
SMC Version: 1.33f8

[Stridder44]

Wow, problems in the first place is one thing (and expected from any product), but now after reading all these posts about how the update didn't actually even fix it.

Apple is (has been?) really going downhill on quality lately. Pretty disappointing really.

[Bryanj026]

Wow, problems in the first place is one thing (and expected from any product), but now after reading all these posts about how the update didn't actually even fix it.

Apple is (has been?) really going downhill on quality lately.

true....

[Bryanj026]

maybe all these graphics problems are coming from the transition for everyone to adapt to opencl technology. hopefully when snow leopard is released we will all be Wow'd with the performance of our machines

[howie78]

Installed and working fine here

[daneoni]

maybe all these graphics problems are coming from the transition for everyone to adapt to opencl technology. hopefully when snow leopard is released we will all be Wow'd with the performance of our machines

If the GPUs cant even handle casual gaming now how would they cope with an OS that would repeatedly offload heavy duty tasks onto them

[richardsim7]

Sigh, this still hasn't fixed my external display issue :(
I still get flashing snow :\

-Rich-

[WilliamG]

Sigh, this still hasn't fixed my external display issue :(
I still get flashing snow :\

-Rich-

Hey Richard - I was coming on here to post the same thing. External displays still don't work with the new MacBook/MacBook Pros when coming out of sleep. More times than not they flicker and flash all over the place. I see you posted where I did on the Apple forum. Really fed up with Apple right now...

[Bryanj026]

If the GPUs cant even handle casual gaming now how would they cope with an OS that would repeatedly offloads heavy tasks on them

maybe it has something to do with it not being fully optimized for normal computing. Whatever they threw for opencl is "destabilizing" it a little bit which is why we are seeing what we are seeing. these are just speculation though.... I'm not saying these opinions are true.

[Bryanj026]

Hey Richard - I was coming on here to post the same thing. External displays still don't work with the new MacBook/MacBook Pros when coming out of sleep. More times than not they flicker and flash all over the place. I see you posted where I did on the Apple forum. Really fed up with Apple right now...

I have that same issue but it resolves itself within a couple seconds. only once have I had to restart the computer. its not ideal however it has yet to truly erk me.

[Kar98]

Has anybody notice the performance change?

I installed them on my mini, and Safari is indeed much snappier! :D

[Loge]

Well so far the update seems to have killed bluetooth, at least as far as my mighty mouse is concerned. :mad:

[hob]

I've got an ext Dell display hooked up at work on DVI - I've not noticed any of these problems... I'll give it a test tomorrow....

[Bryanj026]

I installed them on my mini, and Safari is indeed much snappier! :D

uh no you didn't but nice try

[Bryanj026]

Well so far the update seems to have killed bluetooth, at least as far as my mighty mouse is concerned. :mad:

no mighty mouse, but apple wireless keyboard working fine and Verbatim wireless mouse working fine as well.

[richardsim7]

Hey Richard - I was coming on here to post the same thing. External displays still don't work with the new MacBook/MacBook Pros when coming out of sleep. More times than not they flicker and flash all over the place. I see you posted where I did on the Apple forum. Really fed up with Apple right now...

At least yours works somewhat, mine's just constant snow and flashing no matter what I do :(

-Rich-

[Bryanj026]

At least yours works somewhat, mine's just constant snow and flashing no matter what I do :(

-Rich-

I remember someone saying that the monitors need to be HDCP compliant or they might not work. I'm not sure though. Has the monitor ever worked??

[DLC]

I remember someone saying that the monitors need to be HDCP compliant or they might not work. I'm not sure though. Has the monitor ever worked??

This is an HDCP playback issue. It was, or should have been, resolved with the recent QT playback update.

[bryan1884]

I know somebody asked this earlier and im interested to know as well.....

Can we delete these updates from the utilities folder after installation?

[Bryanj026]

This is an HDCP playback issue. It was, or should have been, resolved with the recent QT playback update.

maybe try reinstalling the QT update again. Worth a try i guess

[Bryanj026]

I know somebody asked this earlier and im interested to know as well.....

Can we delete these updates from the utilities folder after installation?

no you have to keep them their forever.....

[crazyxzer0]

updated EFI first.. as it only showed up by itself on the software update.


Then SMC showed up afterwards on the next restart after the EFI update. Glad they decided to fix problems. Working great for me :)

[richardsim7]

I remember someone saying that the monitors need to be HDCP compliant or they might not work. I'm not sure though. Has the monitor ever worked??

Works perfectly with my PC and my PS3 (including Blu-Rays) :S

-Rich-

[Bryanj026]

Works perfectly with my PC and my PS3 (including Blu-Rays) :S

-Rich-

if there is a problem with the update on your mac then the HDCP wouldn't be able to do whatever it is that they do to communicate with each other properly. That may be whats causing the problem. has the monitor ever worked for your mac?

[richardsim7]

No, it's always been flickery :(

-Rich-

[daneoni]

I know somebody asked this earlier and im interested to know as well.....

Can we delete these updates from the utilities folder after installation?

Yes you can

[nippyjun]

no you have to keep them their forever.....

I assume you are kidding.

[bryan1884]

no you have to keep them their forever.....

Thanks for the wise ass response...

[Bryanj026]

I assume you are kidding.

I wish i was..... (sigh)

[Bryanj026]

Works perfectly with my PC and my PS3 (including Blu-Rays) :S

-Rich-

I tried to find the update for you but I can't find it... I don't remember what it was called.

[Bryanj026]

No, it's always been flickery :(

-Rich-

another thing you could try would be to hook it up to another monitor to see if its something wrong with the port on your computer.

[Loge]

Well so far the update seems to have killed bluetooth, at least as far as my mighty mouse is concerned. :mad:

False alarm, the mouse paired with my old MBP which was also running :o

[Bryanj026]

False alarm, the mouse paired with my old MBP which was also running :o

haha...nice one

[wizard]

maybe all these graphics problems are coming from the transition for everyone to adapt to opencl technology. hopefully when snow leopard is released we will all be Wow'd with the performance of our machines

If the problems reported hereare overheating, it does look like it, then how would using the GPU even more help the issue? If anything the problems described here are just another example of a cronic design problem with Apple hardware. That being under designing the thermal solution.

The thing is this thecurrent MB & MBP lookedlike ideal machines to support SL technology. Now I'm not to sure. I don't want to jump the gun here but we already have people indicating that thermal issues are not resolved. The question then becomes whom is to blame. Is it Apple and it's hardware & software thermal solution or crappy hardware from Nvidia?

I guess the old wisdom of never buying a gen one Apple device still applies.


Dave

[Shiner]

wtf!
so ive ordered my MBP, and its just gunna be messed up from gaming and im gunna have to control fans myself?
not too happy with that :mad:

Do not game on a mac!! You will be much happier if you follow this rule.

[iOrlando]

yeah i came home from work and:

macbook turned itself off and battery was all gone (while still plugged in). I left it alone for maybe 20 hours.

hopefully firmware will fix this.

[itisme1760]

Wow, they really did tweak the fans a lot.

Before, I would encode video on my Macbook Pro for a good 10 minutes for it to hit 105C before the fans would kick in. It would just take it's dear time to throttle up the fans. Now, it comes in at around 65-70C which I am much more happy. Translating 100C = 212F which is something I don't ever want my Macbook Pro to hit ever again.

[nippyjun]

I wish i was..... (sigh)

what happens if you delete the update files?

[Eric S.]

EFI update showed up on software update. installed and rebooted and then the smc update showed up. This is on aluminum 2.4 macbook

I don't see anything in software update. I just received my MB six days ago. Any way to tell if they're already installed?

Update: Never mind, I see they are already installed:
Boot ROM Version: MB51.0073.B06
SMC Version: 1.32f8

[swb1192]

During the SMC update my fan blew soo loud. I've like never even heard my fan before, but during the update it was extremely loud.

[DeLoMan]

During the SMC update my fan blew soo loud. I've like never even heard my fan before, but during the update it was extremely loud.

I noticed this on mine as well. It must have been going 100%.

[DLC]

While I've played games that haven't crashed, Quake 4 and Max Payne, the fans are spinning quite fast. Not sure if it's at the full 6K, but it seems to be enough speed to maintain stability.

I wish I knew why it was only doing this in some games (at least for me).

[mike12806]

Just updated....for some reason CPU is up to 85 C with just iTunes and Safari open??? Fan's are spinning up accordingly however....istat doesn't show anything CPU intensive going on! Weird....

[trs23]

The build to order macbook I just received Monday had these updates already.

[Compile 'em all]

This forum would also be far more civil, if ignorant, personal attacks like the one above were not made. The fact is all Apples computers seem to require an update within two months of being released. The person to which the above comment was made has a valid point. If Apple took the time and care that they used to such immediate updates would not be required.

Apple has truly gone from one end of the spectrum to the other.

you don't know much about software development, do you?

No one can write bug free software, especially when the code is massive as it is with operating systems.

[alphaod]

Is the Air update for the older Airs as well? If it is, I have upgrade my father's computer as he does not do his own updates :(

[chatoyer]

Just updated....for some reason CPU is up to 85 C with just iTunes and Safari open??? Fan's are spinning up accordingly however....istat doesn't show anything CPU intensive going on! Weird....

Can others confirm this happens after the update?

If so, I'm staying far, far away...

[sukanas]

feels like nothing happened at all
didnt notice any fan revving or cpu temp change but the firmware was confirmed updated

edit:
nvm that was only part 1 of the update
part 2, during the smc status bar, the fan revved up like no other

right now my cpus at 40C and fan started around 2500 rpm, then 3000 rpm..... wow as i was typing this.. it all went down to 2000 rpm

so far so good :)

[twentyeight7]

i did the update a few hours ago..... and now i just realized that my sound card does not work. when i go into system properties, only the digital output is there....

any one else? im pissed

EDIT:
i just got it working, i put in headphones and it switched the output over from the digital out. odd.

[funnyent]

hopefully this will fix my magsafe power light from going out all of the time! and on my dads laptop, it flashes constantly

[mets1125]

I have a UNI MBP 2.4 that I bought on Sunday and when I try to download the update it says I already have them.. but the Boot Rom is not the correct version :confused:

Boot ROM Version: MBP51.0074.B01
SMC Version: 1.33f8

[15inchbrick]

My MBP 2.53/4GB/320GB Stock is not preforming any differently.

ISTAT:
CPU 110
FANS 2000RPM
GPU 101

I came up in two sprate updates, and My fans did go up to full throttle as others have reported.

I have also had no graphics issues, no sleep issues (besides consuming a lot of battery life). But, I have yet to connect an external display to my pro....

All is well...:)

[Eric S.]

you don't know much about software development, do you?

No one can write bug free software, especially when the code is massive as it is with operating systems.

Exactly. There would be something wrong if Apple were not issuing OS updates every few months.

[DeLoMan]

Can others confirm this happens after the update?

If so, I'm staying far, far away...

I tried it on mine and could not replicate the problem. My CPU is at a steady 50 degrees.

[sangosimo]

I wonder if this fixes some of the memory issues people have been having.

[VSMacOne]

VLC, iTunes, Entourage and Safari open and CPU is at 62C, RPMs at 1999, which is not much different than before. If anything, it may be a little higher temp.
Other than that, I have to say that my system feels a little snappier than before the update.

[joe01]

Were the updates for the Alum MacBooks ?

[MacMuttonchops]

Just updated....for some reason CPU is up to 85 C with just iTunes and Safari open??? Fan's are spinning up accordingly however....istat doesn't show anything CPU intensive going on! Weird....

Well, if you JUST updated, I would assume the CPU worked up a little sweat and has to cool down. Which you know, takes time. Just because you updated doesn't mean everything gets reset to room temp.

[ATimson]

I have a UNI MBP 2.4 that I bought on Sunday and when I try to download the update it says I already have them.. but the Boot Rom is not the correct version :confused:

Boot ROM Version: MBP51.0074.B01
SMC Version: 1.33f8
Yes, it is the correct version; the "01B" on the site is a typo. (Systems without the update were version "B00".)

[mlmorg]

Yes, it is the correct version; the "01B" on the site is a typo. (Systems without the update were version "B00".)

I haven't updated and mine says MBP51.0073.B02. I think your theory may be incorrect...

[mAc-warrior]

Just installed both updates on my MBP. All seems to be exactly the same as before. Fans spooled up during the update... wow! I haven't ever heard them half that loud before. They're back to ~2000RPM after the update. I will do some gaming under OS X to test how they react. I don't know about Windows because I don't have it installed and never will install it, but I play GTA:SA running through Cider on OS X and the MBP has never crashed once, or gotten above around 75ºC. This is with all settings maxed, under the 9600M. Also played a bit of Flatout2 and ToCa Race Driver 3 (demos) and I can easily max the settings on those games and haven't experienced any difficulty. I'm going to check it out now and see how the fan reaction compares.

Sidenote: The sudden motion sensor was listed as an area of improvement in the SMC KB article I believe. Mine is much less sensitive now. I can move my MBP up and down decently vigorously without invoking the SMS. Much better, and much more practical I would say.

All around, great updates. Thanks Apple!

--mAc

[Soat]

I've used smcfancontrol since it was a glimmer in Hendrik Holtmann's eye, and I've had to use 9400M during prolonged gaming sessions because I couldn't risk dropping in the middle of a critical fight.

I've been logged in Dalaran and flying around Icecrown for over an hour and no problems yet. I only ever seemed to BlSOD during boss fights when spell effects were everywhere (i.e. the card getting stressed), so who knows. 75c now, which is about where it was pre-EFI patch, but so far so good. I'll keep you guys updated.

Update:
Just ran 4 hours of Naxxramas on the 9600GT at max settings (4xAA all sliders maxed all glow/death effects) and just fine with beautiful framerates. Even did some fights that literally covered the room in spell effects and no problems at all. About 70-75 C while gaming in fullscreen (periodically windowing to check temp), with a cooling pad on my lap isn't even noticeable. I can actually touch above my keyboard without suffering burns! I've always ran smcfancontrol at 6200rpm, so my guess is they underclocked the 9600 a little. Which is fine by me, because I'm not taking performance hits at all. Maybe in games like Crysis its an issue.

Did Apple actually fix something with a firmware patch?! Did this patch have anything to do with the 9600GT chip at all?! Regardless, I'm a much happier Unibody owner now. Hopefully this holds up...

[Mackan]

Wow, they really did tweak the fans a lot.

Before, I would encode video on my Macbook Pro for a good 10 minutes for it to hit 105C before the fans would kick in. It would just take it's dear time to throttle up the fans. Now, it comes in at around 65-70C which I am much more happy. Translating 100C = 212F which is something I don't ever want my Macbook Pro to hit ever again.

Why is a firmware update needed to adjust fan speeds so drastically? Shouldn't good fan speed levels been tested and finalized before they release the notebooks in the first place... Makes you wonder.

[mAc-warrior]

About 70-75 C while gaming in fullscreen (periodically windowing to check temp), with a cooling pad on my lap isn't even noticeable. I can actually touch above my keyboard without suffering burns! I've always ran smcfancontrol at 6200rpm, so my guess is they underclocked the 9600 a little. Which is fine by me, because I'm not taking performance hits at all.

Likewise. Just tried out GTA:SA under OS X for a few minutes at max settings. I think its running a little smoother even than before (possibly placebo effect? I have no FPS data) but its cooling just as well if not better. The MBP ran around 75ºC, with the fans at ~3500RPM. Right now at idle I'm seeing temps in the low 50's ºC under the 9600M, fans at ~2000RPM. Around 5ºC lower for the 9400. Add to that the SMS tweaking and the update has been excellent, to echo my earlier sentiment. Go for it kids.

--mAc

EDIT: I should mention that this was all occurring with no cooling pad of any kind. The MBP is simply sitting on a glass desk.

[calviin]

I think the update actually made it worse. I'm only running iTunes, Adium, Firefox, and Word and the temps up to 155F. It would only go near that high when I play Warcraft 3. Would it be a good idea to set the fan at 6200 to keep it at roughly 100 F? Or will the high speeds kill my fans more quickly? O yea, would setting some stuff under the macbook so that it's raised help the heat?

[astromoose]

After the updates.... when transcoding video the fans start to ramp up when CPU temp is in the 70s Celsius and are keeping the machine under 80C. Before the update they would sometimes not spin up above 2000rpm until the machine CPU temp was above 100C!!

[Anthony82]

06?...... you should still have apple care coverage....... you did buy the extended warranty didn't you? bwahaha

Yeah I did, but the Drive is not Broke, I can still burn CDs and still use certain DVDs now, but before everything I put in it worked just fine, no way a CD/DVD drive just gets a mind of it's own and starts deciding what it likes and doesn't, it's the Update they did, not sure which one it was, but started noticing that the disks that did work just fine before stopped shortly before Leopard came out, so it was a update before that time. :mad: SO it's really nothing a Apple Care thing could solve, it's up to Apple to fix the BUG, I already looked into it, and read up on other forums and allot of others have the same problem.

[J the Ninja]

Why is a firmware update needed to adjust fan speeds so drastically? Shouldn't good fan speed levels been tested and finalized before they release the notebooks in the first place... Makes you wonder.

Who knows how much time they had to do real world testing on different apps? As someone who has programmed a fan routine for a homebuilt machine once, I can tell you the process involves a crapload of trial and error, and good bit of analysis of what happens with what setting. It's not usually something you can do in a day.

As if all that wasn't bad enough, fan ramps are, to a point, subjective. Some people are unnerved by 80C chips, and don't mind 35dB of noise to avoid it. Others don't care, and want silence.

[starzplacez]

I wonder if the MBPs power consumption while in sleep mode will be improved. I lose ~20% of my battery in 12 hours while in sleep mode :(

is it just me or does others find it unnecessary to leave your MBPs, or any laptop for that matter, in sleep/hibernation for that long? I mean, i dont mean to sound rude, but experiences tell me that nothing good can ever come out of hibernation. windows/mac/linux.. something is bound to go wrong and you wind up having to restart anyways.. but just my 2 cents:cool:

[8theapple]

I can't install the EFI update...it says my target drive which is my Mac HD is not compatible or something like that.

This is my first Mac.

I'm going to try to click the Apple in the top right hand corner and select software update.

Anyone have any ideas?

[dennisje182]

After i update and reboot, the macbook-EFI-firmware-updater is still runnig in my dock. Can i close it now?

it's running for like 10 minutes now with no sign of any activity:P.....

I just tried, and i can't stop it (Right click on dock icon --> Stop) cmd+Q doesn't work either.......should I do a forced stop?

Nevermind, got it fixed

[brop52]

I can't install the EFI update...it says my target drive which is my Mac HD is not compatible or something like that.

This is my first Mac.

I'm going to try to click the Apple in the top right hand corner and select software update.

Anyone have any ideas?

Which computer do you have and how many weeks? What do you mean you are going to try to run software update? That is what you were supposed to do in the first place. You run software update, it installs the firmware, then you quit software update. Then it will open the installer and tell you to shut down. You shut down, and then it does its thing.

[brop52]

Just installed both updates on my MBP. All seems to be exactly the same as before. Fans spooled up during the update... wow! I haven't ever heard them half that loud before. They're back to ~2000RPM after the update. I will do some gaming under OS X to test how they react. I don't know about Windows because I don't have it installed and never will install it, but I play GTA:SA running through Cider on OS X and the MBP has never crashed once, or gotten above around 75ºC. This is with all settings maxed, under the 9600M. Also played a bit of Flatout2 and ToCa Race Driver 3 (demos) and I can easily max the settings on those games and haven't experienced any difficulty. I'm going to check it out now and see how the fan reaction compares.

Sidenote: The sudden motion sensor was listed as an area of improvement in the SMC KB article I believe. Mine is much less sensitive now. I can move my MBP up and down decently vigorously without invoking the SMS. Much better, and much more practical I would say.

All around, great updates. Thanks Apple!

--mAc

My hard drive still does its idle click when stationary. I don't think it changed for me.

[Sander]

The build to order macbook I just received Monday had these updates already.

Likewise (got mine on Monday, too). Apparently, these patches are first applied to new systems before they are sent out to existing ones.

[displaced]

is it just me or does others find it unnecessary to leave your MBPs, or any laptop for that matter, in sleep/hibernation for that long? I mean, i dont mean to sound rude, but experiences tell me that nothing good can ever come out of hibernation. windows/mac/linux.. something is bound to go wrong and you wind up having to restart anyways.. but just my 2 cents:cool:

Been sleeping my Macs daily for 7 years. I can count on one hand the number of times it didn't wake correctly and those were in the early days of the Intel switch (I've got an early '06 MacBook Pro). Resuming from hibernation ('safe sleep' in Mac parlance) has also never failed whenever I've needed it. The benefit of having everything resume exactly how I left it, including VMWare Windows XP virtual machines, is priceless.

Let me guess... are you used to Windows' "Russian-roulette" approach to sleep and hibernate?

[TonyHoyle]

Update:
Just ran 4 hours of Naxxramas on the 9600GT at max settings (4xAA all sliders maxed all glow/death effects) and just fine with beautiful framerates.

How the heck are you managing that? AFAIK the 9600GT just isn't capable of that.. If I put the draw distance above 50% it drops to about 5fps, and that's with glow effect and shadows disabled, and no AA.

[slackpacker]

If the GPUs cant even handle casual gaming now how would they cope with an OS that would repeatedly offload heavy duty tasks onto them

You Nailed it ..... How does Apple expect this to fly when Snow Leopard comes out:mad: ..... So we are just like a windows machine now.... but since Apple is hip we get Black Screen of Death

[slackpacker]

Update:
Just ran 4 hours of Naxxramas on the 9600GT at max settings (4xAA all sliders maxed all glow/death effects) and just fine with beautiful framerates. Even did some fights that literally covered the room in spell effects and no problems at all. About 70-75 C while gaming in fullscreen (periodically windowing to check temp), with a cooling pad on my lap isn't even noticeable. I can actually touch above my keyboard without suffering burns! I've always ran smcfancontrol at 6200rpm, so my guess is they underclocked the 9600 a little. Which is fine by me, because I'm not taking performance hits at all. Maybe in games like Crysis its an issue.

Did Apple actually fix something with a firmware patch?! Did this patch have anything to do with the 9600GT chip at all?! Regardless, I'm a much happier Unibody owner now. Hopefully this holds up...


Well I for one want to Rip my New UNiBody in half every time I have to use the trackpad in windows.... it is wwwwwaaaay BROKEN. The Driver needs to be updated.

[LoganHunter]

I have a macbook pro and after the updates, the power led goes off when the machine starts to load the OS. I don't remember if it happened before the updates but i guess it remained on all the time.

Is anyone experiencing this situation?

[Wombert]

I can't install the EFI update...it says my target drive which is my Mac HD is not compatible or something like that.

This is my first Mac.

I'm going to try to click the Apple in the top right hand corner and select software update.

Anyone have any ideas?

Hah, same problem here! I bought a 2.53GHz MBP with the 320GB 7200rpm hard drive option from an Apple Premium Reseller here in Munich, Germany. They took a normal 2.53GHz model and swapped in an original Apple Spare Part option hard drive with OS X pre-installed, at least they say so. I was in the store while they did it, and it took maybe five minutes, not enough time to re-install OS X on it, so it's probably true.

The drive is formatted with an Apple Partition Map (the format old PowerPC Macs used), not with a GUID Partition Table (which Intel Macs use). You can check that by starting Disk Utility and clicking the hard drive (not the Macintosh HD partition), it'll say in the bottom right ("Partition Map Scheme"). It's a small miracle the machine is booting at all ;)

What is yours there?
What hard drive, MB(P) model do you have, where did you buy it?
Does it have any optional hardware?
Did you re-format or re-partition it?

Mine:
Macbook Pro 2.53 GHz, 4GB RAM
320GB 7200rpm hard drive option (A Seagate ST9320421AS drive)
Bought in Munich, Germany, at http://www.macmuc.de/

Maybe Apple has produced a range of hard drives with the wrong formatting...

P.S: I cannot use Boot Camp for the same reason, and the only solution right now is to re-partition the drive, for which I'd need to back it up first, and I don't have the time to do that at the moment.

[Hawkeye411]

is it just me or does others find it unnecessary to leave your MBPs, or any laptop for that matter, in sleep/hibernation for that long? I mean, i dont mean to sound rude, but experiences tell me that nothing good can ever come out of hibernation. windows/mac/linux.. something is bound to go wrong and you wind up having to restart anyways.. but just my 2 cents:cool:

I always use sleep mode. I never turn off the power on my MBP. Did the same with my iMac and white MB when I had them and I have never had any problems.

Cheers.

[brikeh]

Sigh, this still hasn't fixed my external display issue :(
I still get flashing snow :\

-Rich-

Hey Richard - I was coming on here to post the same thing. External displays still don't work with the new MacBook/MacBook Pros when coming out of sleep. More times than not they flicker and flash all over the place. I see you posted where I did on the Apple forum. Really fed up with Apple right now...

I have that same issue but it resolves itself within a couple seconds. only once have I had to restart the computer. its not ideal however it has yet to truly erk me.


Having the same probs..its driving me nuts now

[mets1125]

Yes, it is the correct version; the "01B" on the site is a typo. (Systems without the update were version "B00".)


Thanks I was all woried.:)

[LoganHunter]

Guys, i'm sorry for my ignorance, but i purchased my first mac 2 weeks ago... i got the updates but only one download appeared. I read somewhere that the second would install after the 1st one. Where can i check if both updates were successfully applied?

thanks for your answers

[imm22]

Guys, i'm sorry for my ignorance, but i purchased my first mac 2 weeks ago... i got the updates but only one download appeared. I read somewhere that the second would install after the 1st one. Where can i check if both updates were successfully applied?

thanks for your answers

Reboot and search again for new updates.!

[MagmaRules]

I have a new aluminum macbook and i was hopping this update would also fix the graphical performance issues im having. I made a post at the support forum here:http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=8551543#8551543

Did apple say anything about this problem? Did anyone heard/had the same issues?

I also get the flashy effects sometimes, like youtube videos or when im navigating a web page with mouse over effects, but on my main screen and not an external one.

I really feel disappointed with this mac, you guys think this is a software problem that will get fixed soon? Im thinking on returning my mac, as i said in my other post, i compared this one with a 1 year old black macbook and its incredible that an integrated intel graphics card can have better performance in osx. My expose is not fluid (when connected to power and on battery is even worse) and any type of transparency automatically makes the system all sluggish.

[Lavezzi]

Sigh, this still hasn't fixed my external display issue :(
I still get flashing snow :\

-Rich-
I have slightly different trouble with my external monitor (Samsung LE40R87BD), usually it will flicker about when connected and then work fine, but sometimes when the cable is connected/disconnected it will just crash my MBP, by showing a blank screen on both monitors.

This has really ****ed me off since on a number of occasions when it has happened I have lost of LOT of work..

[morespce54]

I didn't had the SMC Firmware Update...
Or maybe it was included in the EFI update and I didn't notice? Strange...
Anyway, all went smooth with the EFI one...

[brentsg]

is it just me or does others find it unnecessary to leave your MBPs, or any laptop for that matter, in sleep/hibernation for that long? I mean, i dont mean to sound rude, but experiences tell me that nothing good can ever come out of hibernation. windows/mac/linux.. something is bound to go wrong and you wind up having to restart anyways.. but just my 2 cents:cool:

I never shut down. Sleep mode is pretty much it for me, with maybe a weekly restart at most.

[rlmccormick]

is it just me or does others find it unnecessary to leave your MBPs, or any laptop for that matter, in sleep/hibernation for that long? I mean, i dont mean to sound rude, but experiences tell me that nothing good can ever come out of hibernation. windows/mac/linux.. something is bound to go wrong and you wind up having to restart anyways.. but just my 2 cents:cool:

It depends on how you use your computer. A lot of times my wife uses the computer for a few minutes to check email and then walks away for a good while. It's MUCH more convienent to open the lid, do what you have to do and then close the lid. On our older MB this works like a champ with great sleep mode power consumption. It isn't nearly as good with the new MBP.

[UMHurricanes34]

I'm interested to see if the power consumption during sleep has been changed at all.

When I left this morning my MBP was at 62%, I'm anxious to get home and check for power depletion. My MBP has just been ridiculous with the battery drain.

My PB would lose maybe 1% over 24 hours of sleep.

[Aldaris]

Aargh...

I don't know whether the update is to blame or something else? After the installing both updates, and charging my MacBook Pro, to full over night, 2 hours into the day, my 'book sleeping the entire time my battery is at 67%...

SMC? Power updates?

I'm going back to my PowerBook...

[Hipnomac]

Got my new unibody pro a week ago, and I ran system update, nothing came up.

So I tried to download manually from apple, and when I run it says my computer does not need this update. This applies to both of the updates.

[LoganHunter]

Reboot and search again for new updates.!

What I meant was, is there any item on system information which show the information about EFI and SMC.

I'm at work now and I can't check it until I get home.

[Eric S.]

is it just me or does others find it unnecessary to leave your MBPs, or any laptop for that matter, in sleep/hibernation for that long? I mean, i dont mean to sound rude, but experiences tell me that nothing good can ever come out of hibernation. windows/mac/linux.. something is bound to go wrong and you wind up having to restart anyways.. but just my 2 cents:cool:

I always leave my systems in sleep mode and never restart unless there's a specific reason for it. They may sleep for days at a time and not be rebooted for months. The only exception is my Macbook, which switches between OS X and Windows a lot and gets rebooted on a daily basis.

What I meant was, is there any item on system information which show the information about EFI and SMC.

I'm at work now and I can't check it until I get home.

:apple: menu -> About This Mac, then click on "More Info":

Boot ROM Version: MB51.0073.B06
SMC Version: 1.32f8

[AidenShaw]

...experiences tell me that nothing good can ever come out of hibernation. windows/mac/linux.. something is bound to go wrong and you wind up having to restart anyways.. but just my 2 cents:cool:

On Vista, Windows now does a good job of sleeping and hibernating. I've set my desktop Vista systems to sleep (standby) instead of going into the screensaver (15 mins).

When I wake the system by clicking a mouse button, as soon as the LCD warms up my desktop is ready. (In other words, Vista comes out of sleep faster than the monitor comes out of sleep.)

I have a quick disable if I'm downloading or something that I don't want it to sleep.

(With California electricity going for $.41/kwh you have incentive to go green.)

[bier-meister]

The battery appears to have improved on my Pro when it's asleep. I put it into sleep mode going to bed at full charge and plug it out, I wake it up the following day when I get in from work. It was always at 72% when I wake it up but today it was 78% so a bit of an improvement there!

[LoganHunter]

I always leave my systems in sleep mode and never restart unless there's a specific reason for it. They may sleep for days at a time and not be rebooted for months. The only exception is my Macbook, which switches between OS X and Windows a lot and gets rebooted on a daily basis.



:apple: menu -> About This Mac, then click on "More Info":

Boot ROM Version: MB51.0073.B06
SMC Version: 1.32f8

Thanks a lot Eric :) I'll check it as soon as I get home.

[richardsim7]

Having the same probs..its driving me nuts now

What monitor are you using??

-Rich-

[WilliamG]

What monitor are you using??

-Rich-

My wife is using the Samsung 245BW 24" 1920x1200. This problem is making her want to stop using a Mac for good. :eek:

[iAthena]

The update downloaded and installed flawlessly for me. I had been experiencing the "wavy" effect when scrolling through web pages, but none of the other problems others report. However, I don't know if it was my imagination or what, but I could have sworn I saw the whole screen momentarily flicker when I wasn't touching the computer now that the patch is installed. The wavy scrolling is still there though so I don't think that problem is solved by the patch. At least I haven't had the video lockup problem yet.

[Soat]

How the heck are you managing that? AFAIK the 9600GT just isn't capable of that.. If I put the draw distance above 50% it drops to about 5fps, and that's with glow effect and shadows disabled, and no AA.

What?! Something is seriously wrong with your set up. I can put all of the settings to max except for ground clutter and shadows, 1xAA and still have playable framerates on the 9400M. I was using the 9400M for stability before this EFI patch. You should delete your Cache + WTF folders, disable addons (turn them on one at a time to see which one is affecting it, if any), run smcfancontrol if you arent already, and zap your PRAM. Worldofwarcraft.com Mac Technical Support forums have a few other tricks, but I've never heard of it being that bad to begin with.

If none of those work, you should probably run to the nearest Apple Store with torches and pitchforks.

[ATimson]

What?! Something is seriously wrong with your set up. I can put all of the settings to max except for ground clutter and shadows, 1xAA and still have playable framerates on the 9400M.
Even in Northrend, especially Dalaran?

I had great framerates in Outland. Northrend has shot them all to hell, though. (Disclaimer: only on a 9400M here, as I have a normal MacBook. :))

[Soat]

Even in Northrend, especially Dalaran?

I had great framerates in Outland. Northrend has shot them all to hell, though. (Disclaimer: only on a 9400M here, as I have a normal MacBook. :))

Dalaran admittedly is pretty sluggish on the 9400M, but you can play with the settings to give you at least 25fps even with a lot of people there. Shadows are a huge killer, since it renders it on every character model, and they're always moving (idle animations, etc).

The max farclip has extended in WotLK. It used to be 777, now its like 1677 or something so we can see all the pretty while on flying mounts. You can turn down your View Distance a little, take some strain off your card, and you'll still be able to see just as far as you could in Burning Crusade.

[ATimson]

The max farclip has extended in WotLK. It used to be 777, now its like 1677 or something so we can see all the pretty while on flying mounts. You can turn down your View Distance a little, take some strain off your card, and you'll still be able to see just as far as you could in Burning Crusade.
Seeing as how I was cranking down most everything but the draw distance, not knowing that they'd doubled it, I'll have to give it a try. That's a good thing to know. :)

[minaguib]

Maybe this will fix my issue, sometimes from waking from sleep my external screen is just fuzz, like an old TV (i think it has something to do with HDCP not re connecting as the image looks scrambled) Anyone else experience this? not a big deal as a simple unplug and re plug fixes the issue... I just set that when i am plugged in the machine never hibernates / sleeps and i have no problem... cept when i forget to plugin, DOH!

Yes the same happens to me.

It's annoying but not a huge deal. You don't even need to unplug/replug to fix it. Hit on the keyboard ctrl+option+eject which will turn off the displays, then any key to turn them back o - problem's usually gone then.

[richardsim7]

I just discovered something odd, if I set the resolution of the external display to 720x480 then it's fine :S

And 1280x1024...

-Rich-

[SamVilde]

is it just me or does others find it unnecessary to leave your MBPs, or any laptop for that matter, in sleep/hibernation for that long? I mean, i dont mean to sound rude, but experiences tell me that nothing good can ever come out of hibernation. windows/mac/linux.. something is bound to go wrong and you wind up having to restart anyways.. but just my 2 cents:cool:

People turn computers off? Why? I thought even the apple website said don't bother unless you're leaving the computer for several days! Why do you turn it off?

[SamVilde]

I didn't think that this might be weird until I read about/installed the update. Since day one, my MB screen is very bright when I open it, and then dims considerably a split second later. If I'm in a light room I don't notice it, but in the dark it's very very noticeable/a little alarming. Is this normal? Expected? Common? Weird?

[petz0ldt]

I didn't think that this might be weird until I read about/installed the update. Since day one, my MB screen is very bright when I open it, and then dims considerably a split second later. If I'm in a light room I don't notice it, but in the dark it's very very noticeable/a little alarming. Is this normal? Expected? Common? Weird?

Im guessing thats the automatically adjust the brightness of the screen feature? Look under system preferences/display

[starzplacez]

I always use sleep mode. I never turn off the power on my MBP. Did the same with my iMac and white MB when I had them and I have never had any problems.

Cheers.

i agree about the fact that it is very nice to have it resume where i left off, i do that too very often.. just that i dont like the idea of leaving it sleeping for like 8+ hours.. maybe it's just me.. but i always feel that the computer is a bit sluggish after i resume it.. and no i am not a pc fanboy, i use PC at home, mac at school, and linux most of the time at work... hah:p

[brop52]

i agree about the fact that it is very nice to have it resume where i left off, i do that too very often.. just that i dont like the idea of leaving it sleeping for like 8+ hours.. maybe it's just me.. but i always feel that the computer is a bit sluggish after i resume it.. and no i am not a pc fanboy, i use PC at home, mac at school, and linux most of the time at work... hah:p

There is no reason to shut down your computer if you use it every day or even every couple of days.

[KineticEcho]

I bought my 2.4Ghz Alu Macbook two days ago, yesterday I downloaded the two updates and all worked fine (accordingly to the release notes, so no worry for the fan loud noise during the update).

Now the battery charge percentage displays 100% when full (it was stuck at 99% before) and the led of the magsafe becomes green (it was always orange before the update).

[Plumbstone]

JUst downloaded both updates for the MBP, once I got 'em I get a window telling e my computer doesn't need these updates... Guess they were already intalled as I only got the Mbp about a weel ago....?

[bbotte]

I bought my MacBook Air Rev B 2 weeks ago and it installed the updates when I downloaded them. Mine was a Week 43 MBA.

[dead76]

I just wanted to chime in for the record, after installing the updates, aside from fans now running slightly higher at normal computing stuff for me (non-gaming), I don't see a huge improvement in the drastic power loss I am getting during sleep mode.

I know people that leave their early Macs in sleep for days, I've done this for 1 full day and I'm at almost 70% from a full charge. I hope a future update will fix this specifically. Dunno what my computer is doing, but its using power somewhere. I thought this was supposed to be a "green computer"

-jeff

[brop52]

I had the hard drive clicking before and now I think it is worse if that is possible. I usually never had it more than 1 every 3 seconds. Now I get strings of clicks with 2 or less seconds between clicks and then quiet for a while or intermittent clicks.

[johnryjr]

I just received my MacBook today, the updates did not show up. How do I see if I have them?

[Eric S.]

I just received my MacBook today, the updates did not show up. How do I see if I have them?

:apple: menu -> About This Mac, then click on "More Info":

Boot ROM Version: MB51.0073.B06
SMC Version: 1.32f8

[johnryjr]

:apple: menu -> About This Mac, then click on "More Info":

Boot ROM Version: MB51.0073.B06
SMC Version: 1.32f8


Thats what I have. Thanks!!!

[RoDe]

OK this morning I woke my computer to find it still has the problem, that when I wake the computer my ACD goes all fuzzy/blurry on me.

I'm starting to fear that this maybe well be a hardware issue and not an software issue.

I hope I'm wrong but I'm getting this strange feeling NVIDIA **** up

[hob]

I'm having no trouble with my external monitor so far... *touch aluminum*

[henk.honk]

Are there any positive or negative differences between old & new efi & smc for the MBA?
Is the grafic improved (thin stripes on the display)?
Does the fan run more often?

[teme]

I have an interesting problem. Earlier my MBP was extremely hot (CPU/GPU over 90c) while playing and fans were at the full speed most time. These new SMC/EFI updates fixed the heating problem quite well, the fans weren't at the full speed all the time anymore and the processor temperatures stayed between 70c-80c. Everything seemed fine.

However, last night I installed Windows Vista with Bootcamp and used the Bootcamp drivers on the Leopard DVD. Today I was playing on Mac OSX, and it seems that the fans/temperatures are similar to those BEFORE the SMC/EFI updates. Is it possible that installing Windows and "old" Bootcamp drivers somehow messed up the SMC/EFI and the new firmware was overwritten by the old one?

[Eric S.]

However, last night I installed Windows Vista with Bootcamp and used the Bootcamp drivers on the Leopard DVD. Today I was playing on Mac OSX, and it seems that the fans/temperatures are similar to those BEFORE the SMC/EFI updates. Is it possible that installing Windows and "old" Bootcamp drivers somehow messed up the SMC/EFI and the new firmware was overwritten by the old one?

I don't know, but it should be easy to check. Go to :apple: menu -> About This Mac, and click on "More Info": that will tell you the current Boot ROM and SMC versions.

From http://support.apple.com/downloads/MacBook_Pro_EFI_Firmware_Update_1_6:
Boot ROM Version Information: MBP51.0074.01B
From http://support.apple.com/downloads/MacBook_Pro_15_inch_SMC_Firmware_Update_1_2:
SMC Firmware version = 1.33f8