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andreab35
Dec 15, 2008, 08:38 AM
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Here is information about my screen that has not been affected by lines or flickering. Screen is crystal clear and beautiful.

Serial number: indicates Week 50
Manufacturer: 00000610
Model #: 00009C9A
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Well... it's been a little bit less than a day with the HDD MacBook Air- and it is absolutely wonderful.
I'm currently still downloading and installing updates. I'm over a WiFi connection, so I took your advice mhnajjar and hooked it up to an Ethernet connection by USB. Stupid me, as I was trying to update everything and typing this out, my hand slid over and accidently shut down the laptop! lol.
But anyways, things aren't going to bad at the moment with the MBA.
- Heat hasn't been a big issue... yet. With iStat on my Dashboard, the CPU is at 117 degrees (F) running software update, two Safari tabs, Finder, and two large downloads. Fans are quiet at 2499 rpm. I have to say though, that I hate the location of the vent on the bottom. On my lap, my legs block almost the whole vent! But I do have a laptop fan cooler, so that aids a big help to keep this baby a bit on the cooler side. Right now with the laptop cooling fan, I've got the CPU down to about 114 degrees (F)
- Alrighty guys, this laptop is a week 50 here. I am extremely blind, but I don't see any lines or defects with the screen. It's simply bright and beautiful. I even asked other people and looked directly at a white background. Nope- nothing... just beauty!
- I have not tested out a video quite yet, on YouTube or Hulu. I will be doing that once my updates are finished.
- Opening programs are in my opinion, snappy. Safari for me takes 2-4 seconds to open. For mail, 2-3 seconds. Dashboard, of course instantly- no hesitations. iChat in 3 seconds. iTunes took 6 seconds. iMovie and other iLife applications took about 6-7 seconds to open. I have nothing to compare to an SSD model, but I'm guessing SSD is much speedier in opening applications at this moment.
- The battery likes to dwindle down a bit quickly... but I believe that's because I'm doing a lot of downloading at the moment and that I like my screen and keyboard nice and bright. I have taken note for now: In one hour while charging, the battery percentage has jumped from 79% to 92%. So, battery charging takes a while- but it doesn't bother me much.
- Oakie doke guys! YouTube for me runs quite alright. After watching about 7 "get a mac" commercials, the CPU temp was around 137 degrees (F). I tried watching Family Guy on Hulu- but that didn't work out too well. Tons of stuttering... It could be possible that it's stuttering a lot because I'm over a wireless connection. But anywho... all is good, except Hulu. No core shut downs, no intense overheating. Since I'm done typing this paragraph, CPU temperature is down to 121 degrees (F)!
- If you are not a big port user, say thank you to the MacBook Air. I'm not missing any ports... I barely use them. One pain in the butt I'm trying to deal with is the port location. For sticking a USB in the port, I always have to tip over my MBA and fiddle around with it. But... it takes practice I'm guessing!
- Ok... here's something odd that I don't get... According to iStat... for only having the MacBook Air for 4 days and only having 5 cycles, my health for my battery is down to 95%. :confused:
- As requested by justit, the poster was wondering how long it took for this MBA to duplicate the utilities folder. Timed with the iPhone stopwatch, it took 3 minutes and 22.3 seconds.

And remember guys, if you have any sort of questions, feel free to ask! :)

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Well, it's been about 5 days with this baby. I can't say anything really bad about it!
I know a lot of people like to be power users and look for their laptops/desktops to do extensive work, but for me, I don't do that. I do my simple music things, internet and email, presentations, etc. But, although this laptop can be considered the "low end" at the moment on Apple's laptop line, it sure is a speedy little thing. It gets what I want done in a quick and efficient way.
It's thinness and lightweight composition is wonderful. I am surprised that this thing is not lighter, but that's quite alright. It's better than carrying a 1 inch, 4-5 pound laptop, right? It fits perfectly in your hands, and is perfect, absolutely perfect for traveling. I took it to Barnes & Noble at Starbucks to sit down with it and do some work. (I had to have some books next to me teaching me about Mac OS X!) Let me tell you, this thing is an eye catcher. I got a lot of "wows" and "awesomes" from some people who walked by. I even talked to some people who were in the market for a portable laptop, and I told them my experience.
Anyways, one feature I could not live without now is the light up keyboard. It's so beautiful in the dark, and makes typing so much easier than squinting and trying to see the keys from a monitor's source of light. Since I am hard of seeing anyway, the keyboard is a very satisfying and helpful feature for me, and can be for you too!
Battery life has not been an absolute favor for me. Although my old Gateway M275 drained faster, this little thing likes to eat my battery. I could have the keyboard lighting shut off, the monitor brightness down to the lowest of my comfortability, energy savings at reasonable levels, airport turned off- it just loves battery. Plus, it takes a while to charge... I've been here for about... 20 minutes and the battery has only charged about 4%. So if you are looking for a quick charge or a replaceable battery for a laptop (I don't need these things)... try to think again before considering the MBA. But don't let this part get you down!
Applications are flawless and run fabulous. Safari now loads in a bounce. iLife programs run nicely with no problem. iWork (still getting used to this!) is a great office suite. It's a little confusing for me since I've been a Microsoft Office user, but I remember the guy at the Apple Store telling me how wonderful iWork is, and so that's why I downloaded the trail. I'm getting to really like it, and I have realized it can create some awesome projects. Additionally, I downloaded XCode also, which runs very well. I am interested in learning about software development, so I'm in the process of slowly learning.
My screen is absolutely beautiful. The first thing when I opened my MBA out of the box, I prayed, "Please no lines, please no lines..." and I am one of the fortunate ones without the distorted, liney MBA. The screen is bright, crystal clear, and for when I tested out a screen comparison in the Apple Store against the MB and MBPs, my MBA kicked butt (in my opinion) in screen quality.
Guys, I have totally gotten used to just having 3 ports. I had several on my old laptop, and barely used them. Barely having any ports on the MBA suites me perfectly. I don't need no Firewire, or ten thousand USB ports... one USB port suites me perfect. If I ever need another USB port for some reason, I can always plug in my little USB hub.
Heat? Eh, that's for everyone else to find out how much heat they can take. I watched about 7 YouTube videos, and the CPU got up to around 137 degrees (F). When I attempted to watch Hulu, I got a lot of stuttering, hence I am over a wireless connection. This morning, I let is stream an episode of the Simpsons for a bit, just up to 2:30, and it only stuttered twice. Heat wasn't that bad... only 139 degrees (F). Lol- after I closed the tab in Hulu, CPU is down to 122 degrees (F). But for heat, I highly recommend a laptop fan. It just plugs into your USB port or by AC adapter and your laptop can sit on the fan. It's an ideal thing to have on when you are sitting with your laptop on your lap, so you don't heat your legs up too much. It's also just a little boost to keep this baby running a bit cooler.

Well... I don't know what else to say. I could not be happier with this laptop... and the fact that I am now using it as my main system. I do have another laptop in the house, and a desktop if I need it, but I bought this to be my primary system, and the MacBook Air does great playing that role I have given it.

Feel free to test it out at the Apple Store. You'll be blown away.

And for me to say, now every laptop I look at, I think it looks bulky and fat! :D

:apple:

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GEEKBENCH BENCHMARKS

Here you go guys... not sure if this is what you guys are looking for... but here's my best. I really don't understand the mumbo jumbo... lol

Geekbench Score 2229
Version Geekbench 2.0.19
Platform Mac OS X x86 (32-bit)
Operating System Mac OS X 10.5.5 (Build 9F2533)
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU L9300 @ 1.60GHz
Model MacBookAir2,1
Memory 2.00 GB 1067 MHz DDR3
Integer Score 1819

Blowfish
single-threaded scalar 1303
57.3 MB/sec

Blowfish
multi-threaded scalar 2797
114.6 MB/sec

Text Compress
single-threaded scalar 1239
3.97 MB/sec

Text Compress
multi-threaded scalar 2066
6.78 MB/sec

Text Decompress
single-threaded scalar 1102
4.53 MB/sec

Text Decompress
multi-threaded scalar 2071
8.25 MB/sec

Image Compress
single-threaded scalar 1128
9.33 Mpixels/sec

Image Compress
multi-threaded scalar 2174
18.3 Mpixels/sec

Image Decompress
single-threaded scalar 945
15.9 Mpixels/sec

Image Decompress
multi-threaded scalar 1790
29.2 Mpixels/sec

Crafty Chess
single-threaded scalar 1392
703.5 Knodes/sec

Crafty Chess
multi-threaded scalar 2363
1.15 Mnodes/sec

Lua
single-threaded scalar 1792
690.3 Knodes/sec

Lua
multi-threaded scalar 3312
1.27 Mnodes/sec

Floating Point Score 2883

Mandelbrot
single-threaded scalar 1185
788.4 Mflops

Mandelbrot
multi-threaded scalar 2242
1.47 Gflops

Dot Product
single-threaded scalar 1569
758.2 Mflops

Dot Product
multi-threaded scalar 3808
1.74 Gflops

Dot Product
single-threaded vector 1211
1.45 Gflops

Dot Product
multi-threaded vector 2476
2.58 Gflops

LU Decomposition
single-threaded scalar 456
406.2 Mflops

LU Decomposition
multi-threaded scalar 932
817.8 Mflops

Primality Test
single-threaded scalar 2257
337.1 Mflops

Primality Test
multi-threaded scalar 3190
592.1 Mflops

Sharpen Image
single-threaded scalar 3189
7.44 Mpixels/sec

Sharpen Image
multi-threaded scalar 5955
13.7 Mpixels/sec

Blur Image
single-threaded scalar 4128
3.27 Mpixels/sec

Blur Image
multi-threaded scalar 7764
6.11 Mpixels/sec

Memory Score 2130

Read Sequential
single-threaded scalar 2308
2.83 GB/sec

Write Sequential
single-threaded scalar 2415
1.65 GB/sec

Stdlib Allocate
single-threaded scalar 1337
4.99 Mallocs/sec

Stdlib Write
single-threaded scalar 2493
5.16 GB/sec

Stdlib Copy
single-threaded scalar 2097
2.16 GB/sec

Stream Score 1577

Stream Copy
single-threaded scalar 1530
2.09 GB/sec

Stream Copy
single-threaded vector 1924
2.50 GB/sec

Stream Scale
single-threaded scalar 1692
2.20 GB/sec

Stream Scale
single-threaded vector 1756
2.37 GB/sec

Stream Add
single-threaded scalar 1221
1.84 GB/sec

Stream Add
single-threaded vector 1818
2.53 GB/sec

Stream Triad
single-threaded scalar 1348
1.86 GB/sec

Stream Triad
single-threaded vector 1328
2.49 GB/sec

System Information
Platform Mac OS X x86 (32-bit)
Compiler GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5484)
Operating System Mac OS X 10.5.5 (Build 9F2533)
Model MacBookAir2,1
Motherboard Apple Inc. Mac-F42D88C8
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU L9300 @ 1.60GHz
Processor ID GenuineIntel Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 6
Logical Processors 2
Physical Processors 1
Processor Frequency 1.60 GHz
L1 Instruction Cache 32.0 KB
L1 Data Cache 32.0 KB
L2 Cache 6.00 MB
L3 Cache 0.00 B
Bus Frequency 1.06 GHz
Memory 2.00 GB
Memory Type 1067 MHz DDR3
SIMD 1
BIOS Apple Inc. MBA21.88Z.0075.B03.0811141325
Processor Model Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU L9300 @ 1.60GHz

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XBENCH SCORES

Results 81.95
System Info
Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.5.5 (9F2533)
Physical RAM 2048 MB
Model MacBookAir2,1
Drive Type SAMSUNG HS12UHE
CPU Test 105.05
GCD Loop 185.97 9.80 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 87.16 2.07 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 72.98 2.41 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 132.86 23.14 Mops/sec
Thread Test 219.22
Computation 307.79 6.24 Mops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 170.23 7.32 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 141.89
System 161.05
Allocate 177.74 652.71 Kalloc/sec
Fill 141.23 6866.72 MB/sec
Copy 168.91 3488.83 MB/sec
Stream 126.81
Copy 139.52 2881.82 MB/sec
Scale 144.11 2977.32 MB/sec
Add 157.05 3345.41 MB/sec
Triad 90.33 1932.45 MB/sec
Quartz Graphics Test 88.21
Line 85.07 5.66 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 95.90 28.63 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 79.04 6.44 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 89.36 2.25 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 93.84 5.87 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 72.28
Spinning Squares 72.28 91.69 frames/sec
User Interface Test 154.32
Elements 154.32 708.24 refresh/sec
Disk Test 30.64
Sequential 53.96
Uncached Write 82.42 50.61 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 67.36 38.11 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 48.63 14.23 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 37.62 18.91 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 21.39
Uncached Write 7.90 0.84 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 59.13 18.93 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 33.53 0.24 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 73.16 13.58 MB/sec [256K blocks]



pgharavi
Dec 15, 2008, 09:31 AM
Well, I guess the big question is whether the differences b/w the SSD and HDD versions are negligible for Rev B., as they were for Rev A?

If not, are they enough to warrant the price difference?

NC MacGuy
Dec 15, 2008, 09:39 AM
You've waited all this time for your new toy and you're going to let a silly ice storm stop you from fondling it???
Tsk, tsk. Disappointing to say the least.:p

GoCubsGo
Dec 15, 2008, 09:46 AM
Knowing that you don't currently own a Rev B SSD model, is it possible to run some benchmarks that mimic what user NC MacGuy ran in his thread where he took his MB Air apart? That may help some of us who are in the market for the HDD make that final push away from the SSD model that clearly has a huge price gap.

Some of my questions would be:

The questions I have are how long does it take for an application to open?
What is the start temp of the machine, then open one Safari window and at least 6-10 tabs (with some pages loaded), then launch a few more apps. How is the heat and performance after this is done?
Do you find that your memory is being maxed out? If so, what were you doing?
Can you watch something on hulu.com in HD, what is the temp reading then?


I apologize if that is too much to be asking, if you wish not to perform these tasks then no worries. I am certain we'll see a some decent reviews out there in no time at all. Thank you in advance for your willingness to share. I am very excited for you.

andreab35
Dec 15, 2008, 09:51 AM
Knowing that you don't currently own a Rev B SSD model, is it possible to run some benchmarks that mimic what user NC MacGuy ran in his thread where he took his MB Air apart? That may help some of us who are in the market for the HDD make that final push away from the SSD model that clearly has a huge price gap.

Some of my questions would be:

The questions I have are how long does it take for an application to open?
What is the start temp of the machine, then open one Safari window and at least 6-10 tabs (with some pages loaded), then launch a few more apps. How is the heat and performance after this is done?
Do you find that your memory is being maxed out? If so, what were you doing?
Can you watch something on hulu.com in HD, what is the temp reading then?


I apologize if that is too much to be asking, if you wish not to perform these tasks then no worries. I am certain we'll see a some decent reviews out there in no time at all. Thank you in advance for your willingness to share. I am very excited for you.

No worries... questions are quite fine! That's what we are all here for! :)
I will try to give my best review as I can. I will report heat, screen quality, video playback, memory, CPU... everything I can. I'll try to do a benchmark... although I'm not quite sure how to do it since I've never done such a thing.
But any questions are welcome. I will try to answer all of them to the best of my abilities. :D

GoCubsGo
Dec 15, 2008, 09:56 AM
Thank you very much.
I believe you can go to Geekbench (http://www.brothersoft.com/downloads/geekbench-benchmark.html) and download their testing software.

Cynicalone
Dec 15, 2008, 10:32 AM
I was beginning to wonder if Apple wasn't going to quietly phase out the HDD version.

GoCubsGo
Dec 15, 2008, 10:46 AM
If they phase it out then they leave their "mobile notebook" that caters to one specific market due to cost. I would imagine the number of people willing to spend $2500 on a notebook that can't be upgraded at all (memory/hard drive), is rather small. The MB Air has a market, but leaving the only option to be the $2500 model results in a much smaller market in my opinion.

Sorry to the OP for the slightly OT side conversation.

Cynicalone
Dec 15, 2008, 10:53 AM
Off topic again... It did for a while seem like the HDD model was heading toward vaporware status. Glad to see one finally show up.

mhnajjar
Dec 15, 2008, 10:55 AM
I have a 3.06 iMac and I have been using a 2.53 UniB MBP for a week now and I kind of want to keep the MBP and send the MBA back to Apple which I just received now while typing this message :eek:

Shall I open the box and return the MBP or return the MBA?

I have had a 17" MBP before for a year and it was the best machine till I decided to sell it and get a 24" iMac + MBA. I have had tons of issues with the Air which made me decide to get rid of it. However, all the positive feedbacks about rev B. made me order one. However, now I kind of think that the MBP would be better since I do not really take my machines out much and the MBP should last me longer than the MBA which might not be enough in 2 years or so.

1. Keep the 2.53 MBP?
2. Open the 1.6/120 HDD MBA?

glitch44
Dec 15, 2008, 10:55 AM
If they phase it out then they leave their "mobile notebook" that caters to one specific market due to cost. I would imagine the number of people willing to spend $2500 on a notebook that can't be upgraded at all (memory/hard drive), is rather small. The MB Air has a market, but leaving the only option to be the $2500 model results in a much smaller market in my opinion.

Sorry to the OP for the slightly OT side conversation.

i think the thinking is that SSDs will completely replace hard drives as they come down in price and increase in capacity-- so there will be a $1800 (or less) Air, but it will be SSD.

Anyway, congrats to the OP on getting your Air. looking forward to hearing your thoughts...

glitch44
Dec 15, 2008, 10:57 AM
I have a 3.06 iMac and I have been using a 2.53 UniB MBP for a week now and I kind of want to keep the MBP and send the MBA back to Apple which I just received now while typing this message :eek:

Shall I open the box and return the MBP or return the MBA?

I have had a 17" MBP before for a year and it was the best machine till I decided to sell it and get a 24" iMac + MBA. I have had tons of issues with the Air which made me decide to get rid of it. However, all the positive feedbacks about rev B. made me order one. However, now I kind of think that the MBP would be better since I do not really take my machines out much and the MBP should last me longer than the MBA which might not be enough in 2 years or so.

1. Keep the 2.53 MBP?
2. Open the 1.6/120 HDD MBA?

you should probably start your own thread for this.

GoCubsGo
Dec 15, 2008, 11:14 AM
i think the thinking is that SSDs will completely replace hard drives as they come down in price and increase in capacity-- so there will be a $1800 (or less) Air, but it will be SSD.

Anyway, congrats to the OP on getting your Air. looking forward to hearing your thoughts...Agreed, I believe SSD is where it is at with mobile computing, only saying right now the prices are way too high to justify having them as the only option ever.

you should probably start your own thread for this.
Agreed.
mhnajjar, if you do not need the machine then please return it for some other poor sap (me) to go buy. Where do you live? And also, do you have to pay a restocking fee if the box was never opened?

mhnajjar
Dec 15, 2008, 11:16 AM
No restocking fees for returned sealed boxes.

I live in Colorado if you want to pay a visit to the snow land!

Do you want me to ship it to you? lol!

I do not "need" any extra machine to my iMac but I guess I am an Apple addict :o and I need help!

GoCubsGo
Dec 15, 2008, 01:16 PM
I just picked one up. No lines and safari is snappier. (I am kidding about safari I have no net in my car).

ashowkati
Dec 15, 2008, 01:23 PM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 2_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.18.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.1 Mobile/5G77 Safari/525.20)

I just picked one up. No lines and safari is snappier. (I am kidding about safari I have no net in my car).

Are u saying ur local apple store has the spec in stock? I wonder if mine does. I'll figure it out when I take my iMac in for service today.

GoCubsGo
Dec 15, 2008, 01:40 PM
yes that's what I'm saying. Irvine said they had none so despite the down pour I went to mission Viejo. Took 50 minutes just to get there and I made them pull it from the box. I did turn it on but no playing until I get home.

mark.roemers
Dec 15, 2008, 01:54 PM
Hi, my experience with the MBA's is that the SSD is in general a lot faster with opening files and starting programs. We have 4 MBA's in our company. 3 are SSD's and the other one was bought in a hurry. It is a pity we cannot exchange it because it is really worth the extra money. You really feel like it gets stuck sometimes. Especially when using Parallels!
Good luck with your new machine!
Regards Mark (Happy Apple convert!)

andyOSX
Dec 15, 2008, 04:02 PM
Here it is... the 1.6GHz, 2GB, 120GB HDD MacBook Air.

I came home and immediately went to go open the box.

Boy was it beautiful.


Congrats! You must be so excited! Mine should be here by thursday!

6SSD4
Dec 15, 2008, 04:02 PM
Hi, my experience with the MBA's is that the SSD is in general a lot faster with opening files and starting programs. We have 4 MBA's in our company. 3 are SSD's and the other one was bought in a hurry. It is a pity we cannot exchange it because it is really worth the extra money. You really feel like it gets stuck sometimes. Especially when using Parallels!
Good luck with your new machine!
Regards Mark (Happy Apple convert!)

Good to know! I'm buying the Rev. A SSD :D
(sorry for off topic)

GoCubsGo
Dec 15, 2008, 05:41 PM
I have not been affected by the lines. Screen is crystal clear... except I don't know why the screen and keyboard keep fading in and out constantly- it's getting annoying.
Thank you! I bought mine this morning but it is sitting in my desk drawer waiting to go home!

Now, about that fading thing. Go to your display preferences and make sure the auto brightness is turned off. This will fix that annoyance. Like you, I fired mine up in the car and NO lines.

Ironic
Dec 15, 2008, 05:52 PM
Thank you! I bought mine this morning but it is sitting in my desk drawer waiting to go home!

Now, about that fading thing. Go to your display preferences and make sure the auto brightness is turned off. This will fix that annoyance. Like you, I fired mine up in the car and NO lines.Congrats Jessica please post it on the no lines thread:)

andreab35
Dec 15, 2008, 06:01 PM
Thank you! I bought mine this morning but it is sitting in my desk drawer waiting to go home!

Now, about that fading thing. Go to your display preferences and make sure the auto brightness is turned off. This will fix that annoyance. Like you, I fired mine up in the car and NO lines.

Thank you for showing me how to turn off that annoying fading thing. It was driving me nuts!
I appreciate the help- I'm so new to Mac OS X... I'm surfing around on it with my head cut off!

GoCubsGo
Dec 15, 2008, 08:06 PM
Screen: 00009C90
No lines.
Found Wifi networks that even my MacPro didn't pick up. So wifi is good.
If anyone wants to explain the differences between the OP's and mine, I'm all ears.


Summary

Section Description Score Geekbench Score
Geekbench 2.0.19 for Mac OS X x86 (32-bit)
Integer Processor integer performance 1838 2245
Floating Point Processor floating point performance 2906
Memory Memory performance 2127
Stream Memory bandwidth performance 1602
System Information

Operating System Mac OS X 10.5.5 (Build 9F2533)
Model MacBookAir2,1 Motherboard Apple Inc. Mac-F42D88C8
Processor Intel Core2 Duo L9300 Processor ID GenuineIntel Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 6
Processors 1 Cores 2
Processor Frequency 1.60 GHz Bus Frequency 1.06 GHz
L1 Instruction Cache 32.0 KB L1 Data Cache 32.0 KB
L2 Cache 6.00 MB L3 Cache 0.00 B
Memory 2.00 GB Memory Type 1067 MHz DDR3
BIOS Apple Inc. MBA21.88Z.0075.B03.0811141325
Integer Performance

Integer 1838
Blowfish
single-threaded scalar 1299
57.1 MB/sec

Blowfish
multi-threaded scalar 2776
113.8 MB/sec

Text Compress
single-threaded scalar 1236
3.95 MB/sec

Text Compress
multi-threaded scalar 2192
7.19 MB/sec

Text Decompress
single-threaded scalar 1106
4.55 MB/sec

Text Decompress
multi-threaded scalar 2104
8.38 MB/sec

Image Compress
single-threaded scalar 1136
9.39 Mpixels/sec

Image Compress
multi-threaded scalar 2184
18.4 Mpixels/sec

Image Decompress
single-threaded scalar 942
15.8 Mpixels/sec

Image Decompress
multi-threaded scalar 1893
30.9 Mpixels/sec

Crafty Chess
single-threaded scalar 1394
705.0 Knodes/sec

Crafty Chess
multi-threaded scalar 2406
1.17 Mnodes/sec

Lua
single-threaded scalar 1750
674.1 Knodes/sec

Lua
multi-threaded scalar 3325
1.28 Mnodes/sec

Floating Point Performance

Floating Point 2906
Mandelbrot
single-threaded scalar 1183
787.2 Mflops

Mandelbrot
multi-threaded scalar 2295
1.50 Gflops

Dot Product
single-threaded scalar 1803
871.2 Mflops

Dot Product
multi-threaded scalar 3823
1.74 Gflops

Dot Product
single-threaded vector 1049
1.26 Gflops

Dot Product
multi-threaded vector 2771
2.88 Gflops

LU Decomposition
single-threaded scalar 455
404.9 Mflops

LU Decomposition
multi-threaded scalar 928
814.3 Mflops

Primality Test
single-threaded scalar 2249
335.9 Mflops

Primality Test
multi-threaded scalar 3246
602.4 Mflops

Sharpen Image
single-threaded scalar 3200
7.47 Mpixels/sec

Sharpen Image
multi-threaded scalar 5953
13.7 Mpixels/sec

Blur Image
single-threaded scalar 4116
3.26 Mpixels/sec

Blur Image
multi-threaded scalar 7617
5.99 Mpixels/sec

Memory Performance

Memory 2127
Read Sequential
single-threaded scalar 2314
2.83 GB/sec

Write Sequential
single-threaded scalar 2369
1.62 GB/sec

Stdlib Allocate
single-threaded scalar 1333
4.98 Mallocs/sec

Stdlib Write
single-threaded scalar 2472
5.12 GB/sec

Stdlib Copy
single-threaded scalar 2147
2.21 GB/sec

Stream Performance

Stream 1602
Stream Copy
single-threaded scalar 1678
2.30 GB/sec

Stream Copy
single-threaded vector 1908
2.48 GB/sec

Stream Scale
single-threaded scalar 1622
2.11 GB/sec

Stream Scale
single-threaded vector 1808
2.44 GB/sec

Stream Add
single-threaded scalar 1225
1.85 GB/sec

Stream Add
single-threaded vector 1928
2.68 GB/sec

Stream Triad
single-threaded scalar 1351
1.87 GB/sec

Stream Triad
single-threaded vector 1297
2.43 GB/sec

Ironic
Dec 15, 2008, 08:32 PM
Removed

mhnajjar
Dec 15, 2008, 08:48 PM
Jessica, glad to hear that you finally got yours.

BTW, what are your temps? before/while/after surfing/youtube ?!

GoCubsGo
Dec 15, 2008, 09:41 PM
115 right now running software update (which is taking FOREVER). Fans are running at 2499.

andreab35
Dec 15, 2008, 10:12 PM
115 right now running software update (which is taking FOREVER). Fans are running at 2499.

I'm running updates too... and it is taking quite a while... I believe about 4 hours it's been about now!
Anyways, I see that my CPU is 60 degrees right now, running: Finder, 4 Safari tabs, software update, and downloading iLife.
Fans at 2499. I haven't heard them go on yet.

mhnajjar
Dec 15, 2008, 10:15 PM
Aren't those temps kind of high?

BTW, I think the updates are taking forever because you are using wireless. Try using the USB ethernet. It would be way faster.

GoCubsGo
Dec 15, 2008, 10:19 PM
Aren't those temps kind of high?

BTW, I think the updates are taking forever because you are using wireless. Try using the USB ethernet. It would be way faster.

If I had one I would. ;)
I'm ok on Wifi.
117 F not C. No it's not that high the computer isn't even warm to the touch.

GoCubsGo
Dec 16, 2008, 12:01 AM
andreab35
My updates are done. Took about 2 hours in total I believe. 2.5 at best.

Snip completely OT crud
No offense, but considering we're discussing the HDD model of the Air here; which is not your machine, can you at least edit your post with a code tag? :rolleyes:

alphaxono
Dec 16, 2008, 02:17 AM
Could someone with an HDD Air rev B. use Xbench.com and post their results?

Thank you!

mhnajjar
Dec 16, 2008, 03:01 AM
I opened my 1.6/120 MBA and I GOT THE LINES!

Screen model 00009C9A


I am sure that all those who do not have lines simply do not see it.

BTW, I have week 50 and I might try to take some photos with my DSLR even though I do not feel doing so since this Air is going back ASAP.

andreab35
Dec 16, 2008, 06:15 AM
I opened my 1.6/120 MBA and I GOT THE LINES!

Screen model 00009C9A


I am sure that all those who do not have lines simply do not see it.

BTW, I have week 50 and I might try to take some photos with my DSLR even though I do not feel doing so since this Air is going back ASAP.

Oh, I'm so sorry mhnajjar! I feel so bad!
I believe I have a week 50 also, but I do not know what screen model I have.
No lines here though... I made it to be a lucky one I guess.
I am practically blind though- so if there are lines, I can't see them. But I've asked some people around and they don't see anything.
Sorry for the lines.

Ironic
Dec 16, 2008, 06:52 AM
I opened my 1.6/120 MBA and I GOT THE LINES!

Screen model 00009C9A


I am sure that all those who do not have lines simply do not see it.

BTW, I have week 50 and I might try to take some photos with my DSLR even though I do not feel doing so since this Air is going back ASAP.

No those of us with no lines have, no lines, Not that we don't see them:cool:

mhnajjar
Dec 16, 2008, 06:56 AM
Attached are two photos I took for your pleasure :(

:apple: made me so :mad: with this low production value. Why would they break a wonderful screen :confused:

BTW, this screen suffers from a lot of light bleed on top and bottom but I was okay with that since I was so happy that I finally got a perfect MBA without any scratches or dents since I had many bad experiences with the rev A. However, these lines are even worse.

Ironic
Dec 16, 2008, 07:03 AM
Attached are two photos I took for your pleasure :(

:apple: made me so :mad: with this low production value. Why would they break a wonderful screen :confused:

BTW, this screen suffers from a lot of light bleed on top and bottom but I was okay with that since I was so happy that I finally got a perfect MBA without any scratches or dents since I had many bad experiences with the rev A. However, these lines are even worse.

Yep you look like you have them bad.

andreab35
Dec 16, 2008, 07:13 AM
Yep you look like you have them bad.

Agreed. I just don't get what's going on with some of these Air's. :confused:

andreab35
Dec 16, 2008, 07:16 AM
Well, I guess the big question is whether the differences b/w the SSD and HDD versions are negligible for Rev B., as they were for Rev A?

If not, are they enough to warrant the price difference?

Hi pgharavi!
I have nothing to compare from HDD to SSD... I'm sorry. But others around do have SSD versions. I have posted how many seconds it takes to open some applications for you.

LeonX
Dec 16, 2008, 07:37 AM
Screen: 00009C90
No lines.
Found Wifi networks that even my MacPro didn't pick up. So wifi is good.
If anyone wants to explain the differences between the OP's and mine, I'm all ears.

that got my attention. it's the first time I read that there are rev.Bs out there with another sort of screen. Who else has 9c90 - and what manufacturer is it made by?

GoCubsGo
Dec 16, 2008, 07:55 AM
^^ Not sure. Will look more once I get home from work today. I'll also do the xbench scores and I'm still reading up on MSR tools. I'm too stupid to figure it out without google.

LeonX
Dec 16, 2008, 01:11 PM
^^ Not sure. Will look more once I get home from work today. I'll also do the xbench scores and I'm still reading up on MSR tools. I'm too stupid to figure it out without google.

yeah, and could you tell us as well the week when your new darling was built?

TSMOTW
Dec 16, 2008, 01:20 PM
Hi pgharavi!
I have nothing to compare from HDD to SSD... I'm sorry. But others around do have SSD versions. I have posted how many seconds it takes to open some applications for you.

Well i've got an Macbook Air 1.6ghz with SSD (free upgrade). My scores are nearly the same :rolleyes:


Geekbench Score 2233
Version Geekbench 2.0.19
Platform Mac OS X x86 (32-bit)
Operating System Mac OS X 10.5.6 (Build 9G55)
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU L9300 @ 1.60GHz
Model MacBookAir2,1
Memory 2.00 GB 1067 MHz DDR3
Integer Score 1827

Blowfish
single-threaded scalar 1307
57.4 MB/sec

Blowfish
multi-threaded scalar 2792
114.4 MB/sec

Text Compress
single-threaded scalar 1237
3.96 MB/sec

Text Compress
multi-threaded scalar 2209
7.25 MB/sec

Text Decompress
single-threaded scalar 1105
4.54 MB/sec

Text Decompress
multi-threaded scalar 2074
8.26 MB/sec

Image Compress
single-threaded scalar 1130
9.34 Mpixels/sec

Image Compress
multi-threaded scalar 2006
16.9 Mpixels/sec

Image Decompress
single-threaded scalar 941
15.8 Mpixels/sec

Image Decompress
multi-threaded scalar 1885
30.8 Mpixels/sec

Crafty Chess
single-threaded scalar 1396
705.5 Knodes/sec

Crafty Chess
multi-threaded scalar 2345
1.14 Mnodes/sec

Lua
single-threaded scalar 1823
702.1 Knodes/sec

Lua
multi-threaded scalar 3340
1.28 Mnodes/sec

Floating Point Score 2893

Mandelbrot
single-threaded scalar 1185
788.8 Mflops

Mandelbrot
multi-threaded scalar 2284
1.49 Gflops

Dot Product
single-threaded scalar 1569
758.2 Mflops

Dot Product
multi-threaded scalar 3728
1.70 Gflops

Dot Product
single-threaded vector 1042
1.25 Gflops

Dot Product
multi-threaded vector 2677
2.78 Gflops

LU Decomposition
single-threaded scalar 469
418.0 Mflops

LU Decomposition
multi-threaded scalar 955
838.1 Mflops

Primality Test
single-threaded scalar 2268
338.7 Mflops

Primality Test
multi-threaded scalar 3249
603.0 Mflops

Sharpen Image
single-threaded scalar 3188
7.44 Mpixels/sec

Sharpen Image
multi-threaded scalar 6109
14.1 Mpixels/sec

Blur Image
single-threaded scalar 4120
3.26 Mpixels/sec

Blur Image
multi-threaded scalar 7659
6.02 Mpixels/sec

Memory Score 2114

Read Sequential
single-threaded scalar 2319
2.84 GB/sec

Write Sequential
single-threaded scalar 2315
1.58 GB/sec

Stdlib Allocate
single-threaded scalar 1310
4.89 Mallocs/sec

Stdlib Write
single-threaded scalar 2490
5.15 GB/sec

Stdlib Copy
single-threaded scalar 2139
2.21 GB/sec

Stream Score 1586

Stream Copy
single-threaded scalar 1660
2.27 GB/sec

Stream Copy
single-threaded vector 1683
2.18 GB/sec

Stream Scale
single-threaded scalar 1776
2.30 GB/sec

Stream Scale
single-threaded vector 1810
2.44 GB/sec

Stream Add
single-threaded scalar 1236
1.87 GB/sec

Stream Add
single-threaded vector 1852
2.58 GB/sec

Stream Triad
single-threaded scalar 1306
1.81 GB/sec

Stream Triad
single-threaded vector 1367
2.56 GB/sec

System Information
Platform Mac OS X x86 (32-bit)
Compiler GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5484)
Operating System Mac OS X 10.5.6 (Build 9G55)
Model MacBookAir2,1
Motherboard Apple Inc. Mac-F42D88C8
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU L9300 @ 1.60GHz
Processor ID GenuineIntel Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 6
Logical Processors 2
Physical Processors 1
Processor Frequency 1.60 GHz
L1 Instruction Cache 32.0 KB
L1 Data Cache 32.0 KB
L2 Cache 6.00 MB
L3 Cache 0.00 B
Bus Frequency 1.06 GHz
Memory 2.00 GB
Memory Type 1067 MHz DDR3
SIMD 1
BIOS Apple Inc. MBA21.88Z.0075.B03.0811141325
Processor Model Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU L9300 @ 1.60GHz

ashowkati
Dec 16, 2008, 07:40 PM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 2_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.18.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.1 Mobile/5G77 Safari/525.20)

mines coming thursday morning (1.6/120). I'll let ya guys know about lines and such.

Ironic
Dec 16, 2008, 07:42 PM
Happy?

TSMOTW
Dec 17, 2008, 03:46 AM
yours should be higher like mine did you close all other programs before runnung it?

I closed all programs. But I don't think geekbench tests the harddisk, only the processor and internal memory. So my results should be the same as the OP.

LeonX
Dec 17, 2008, 08:58 AM
^^ Not sure. Will look more once I get home from work today. I'll also do the xbench scores and I'm still reading up on MSR tools. I'm too stupid to figure it out without google.

Jessica, did you check the manufacturer. I am really curious now! :)

GoCubsGo
Dec 17, 2008, 09:18 AM
yeah, and could you tell us as well the week when your new darling was built?

Week 49, as previously posted.

Also, I am unsure how to find out the screen manufacturer. I'll do some googling in a bit. The bad boy is charging after being fully drained and off all night. I'm trying to stay away while I get some work done. :(



Folks, honestly if you're going to post your scores of either your SSD (irrelevant to the thread title) or the HDD, use the CODE wrap. It makes for better viewing.

pgharavi
Dec 17, 2008, 09:50 AM
Week 49, as previously posted.

Also, I am unsure how to find out the screen manufacturer. I'll do some googling in a bit. The bad boy is charging after being fully drained and off all night. I'm trying to stay away while I get some work done. :(



Folks, honestly if you're going to post your scores of either your SSD (irrelevant to the thread title) or the HDD, use the CODE wrap. It makes for better viewing.



So do we have a consensus on how this performs compared to Rev A HDD and Rev B SSD?

andreab35
Dec 17, 2008, 10:10 AM
Week 49, as previously posted.

Also, I am unsure how to find out the screen manufacturer. I'll do some googling in a bit. The bad boy is charging after being fully drained and off all night. I'm trying to stay away while I get some work done. :(



Folks, honestly if you're going to post your scores of either your SSD (irrelevant to the thread title) or the HDD, use the CODE wrap. It makes for better viewing.


Sorry about that. I was trying to figure out how you did that code wrapping thing for easier viewing and I finally figured it out.
I just code wrapped my Geekbench score and I will be code wrapping the XBench score now.
Sorry about the inconvenience of viewing guys. :o

GoCubsGo
Dec 17, 2008, 11:38 AM
Sorry about that. I was trying to figure out how you did that code wrapping thing for easier viewing and I finally figured it out.
I just code wrapped my Geekbench score and I will be code wrapping the XBench score now.
Sorry about the inconvenience of viewing guys. :o

Actually, it was directed towards a few others and most certainly not you. ;) Yes, I play favorites. :D

GoCubsGo
Dec 17, 2008, 08:27 PM
that got my attention. it's the first time I read that there are rev.Bs out there with another sort of screen. Who else has 9c90 - and what manufacturer is it made by?This is my screen. No typos there.

LeonX
Dec 18, 2008, 02:13 AM
This is my screen. No typos there.

well, then it's official: there are two diffrent screens out there, 9c9a and 9c90 - unfortunately both made by Chi Mei. But that doesnt mean that the later one has the same issues, and we have to see if there are more of these screens in future units (hopefully in the ssd model as well).

GoCubsGo
Dec 18, 2008, 08:48 AM
How did you find out who manufactured the screen? I think there's a terminal command but it escapes me.

LeonX
Dec 18, 2008, 09:14 AM
How did you find out who manufactured the screen? I think there's a terminal command but it escapes me.

Well, manufacturer code is 0610, the other screen has the same code. But maybe you can doublecheck.

ashowkati
Dec 19, 2008, 01:49 AM
Im in he midst of this also. I got my Air in earlier today and I have lines. Now I may sound like a total newberooni but how do I look up the screen model number? I know the manufacturer week is 50 (based on my serial XXX50XXXXXX) I wanna know this info before going into the Apple Store tomorrow. thx

[nvm] figured it out.

pstoehr
Dec 19, 2008, 03:15 PM
Hi,

has someone out there some Geekbench results for the the 1.8GHz MBA?

Thanks in advance
Peter

justit
Dec 19, 2008, 04:25 PM
- Opening programs are in my opinion, snappy. Safari for me takes 2-4 seconds to open. For mail, 2-3 seconds. Dashboard, of course instantly- no hesitations. iChat in 3 seconds. iTunes took 6 seconds. iMovie and other iLife applications took about 6-7 seconds to open. I have nothing to compare to an SSD model, but I'm guessing SSD is much speedier in opening applications at this moment.

On my SSD:
Safari: 1.3 sec
iChat: 1.7 sec
iTunes: 2.6

The 6MB L3 Cache seems to have narrowed the gap between both models.

Can you duplicate (right click->duplicate) your utilities folder (applications/utilities) and record the time?

andreab35
Dec 20, 2008, 05:19 AM
On my SSD:
Safari: 1.3 sec
iChat: 1.7 sec
iTunes: 2.6

The 6MB L3 Cache seems to have narrowed the gap between both models.

Can you duplicate (right click->duplicate) your utilities folder (applications/utilities) and record the time?

Hi justit!

I justed PMed you about the result I got.

It took to duplicate the utilities folder: 3 minutes and 22.3 seconds

andreab35
Dec 20, 2008, 05:21 AM
Hi,

has someone out there some Geekbench results for the the 1.8GHz MBA?

Thanks in advance
Peter

Haven't heard about anything yet, Peter. But, I hope something will come around so you can find out the results you'd like. Sorry, but I only have a Geekbench and XBench for the MacBook Air 1.6 GHz, 120 GB HDD.

justit
Dec 20, 2008, 08:08 AM
Hi justit!

I justed PMed you about the result I got.

It took to duplicate the utilities folder: 3 minutes and 22.3 seconds

Thanks andreab35,

On the SSD it comes out to 1 min 29sec. So overall the new HDD does a better job than before at shorter tasks like opening apps, but longer tasks like file copies the 4200 rpm is roughy still the same as before.

andreab35
Dec 20, 2008, 09:02 AM
Thanks andreab35,

On the SSD it comes out to 1 min 29sec. So overall the new HDD does a better job than before at shorter tasks like opening apps, but longer tasks like file copies the 4200 rpm is roughy still the same as before.

Opening apps is a breeze. For the more intense apps, it takes about 4-7 seconds to open, but it doesn't bother me. But they run great.
But file copying (big files) does seem to take a longer time than your SSD.

jtmav
Dec 20, 2008, 06:12 PM
This is my screen. No typos there.

I have 9C9A with Manufacturer 00000610
and no lines, pretty much a terrific display.

JTMav

Bobjob186
Dec 20, 2008, 08:17 PM
so the rev A hdd and the rev B hdd have pretty much the same benchmark scores?

justit
Dec 21, 2008, 12:08 AM
so the rev A hdd and the rev B hdd have pretty much the same benchmark scores?

The drives themselves may be the same, but there are additional internal improvements, like expanded L3 cache, faster graphics that make the rev B HDD model faster than the rev A HDD model.

dlblarg
Dec 24, 2008, 10:26 PM
This is my screen. No typos there.

I've got an MBA with the 00009C9A screen.