IDG: Jobs Expected to Give Macworld Keynote

[MacRumors]

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Businessweek's Arik Hesseldahl spoke (http://www.businessweek.com/technology/ByteOfTheApple/blog/archives/2008/12/steve_jobs_will.html?campaign_id=rss_blog_byteoftheapple) with VP at IDG World Expo Paul Kent, who assured him that Steve Jobs was expected to speak at Macworld San Francisco's keynote and that a joint announcement was coming soon."We haven't made the announcement yet. We usually do this in concert with Apple…I have no reason to believe that plans are not moving ahead," for Jobs to speak.Steve Jobs has traditionally given the Macworld Expo keynote speech during which new products and plans are revealed. The lack of an official announcement has generated some interest and concern (http://blogs.oreilly.com/digitalmedia/2008/12/no-jobs-at-macworld.html) about the event. Hesseldahl points out that Jobs absence at a Macworld keynote would be seen "as a bad thing."

Article Link: IDG: Jobs Expected to Give Macworld Keynote (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/12/15/idg-jobs-expected-to-give-macworld-keynote/)

[DaveTheGrey]

It wouldn't be the same without Steve.

[voicegy]

A MacWorld w/o Jobs is like a day w/o sunshine. He'll be there. : )

[fendol]

...has generated some interest and concern. What? :confused:

Maybe Jobs is sick as it seems to be insinuating itself in the article or he just has a lot of stuff going on and being prepared to be revealed... hopefully :cool::apple:http://seoagora.com/img/589/d08l1104oulu/smiley2.gifhttp://seoagora.com/img/308/s08e1024rvou/champagne.gif

[mingisback]

what!!! no way!!!

[chillywilly]

A keynote without Jobs while he's still in charge would be unthinkable.

[JFreak]

PowerBook G5 next tuesday?
Safari feels snappier?
Cinema Display updates any day now?
10-finger gesture support for Snow Leopard?
Mac Mini will die?
Final Cut Studio finally Cocoa?

Let me just finally get the new Mac Pro for God's sake...

[Kilamite]

Could be one of his last..

[Tallest Skil]

PowerBook G5 next tuesday?
Safari feels snappier?
Cinema Display updates any day now?
10-finger gesture support for Snow Leopard?
Mac Mini will die?
Final Cut Studio finally Cocoa?

Let me just finally get the new Mac Pro for God's sake...

Add me to the "Finally Get The New Mac Pro" list. It won't be at MacWorld, but add me.

[gkarris]

Blu-ray support... :eek:

(ducks...)

:D

[ingenious]

Steve'd better be there.... there is NO way i'm watching a keynote done by ...ugh... Phil Schiller!

[flottenheimer]

Really looking forward to a new Stevenote. His presentation flow/technique/style alone is simply world-class.
This time the speech will be stuffed with brand new hardware, significant updates to excisting lines and lots of great news. Steve + Actual content = Killer combo. Can't wait.

[gilkisson]

And now, pitch-hitting for Steve Jobs, up to the plate walks..... The Woz!:eek::eek:

[TurboSC]

Steve Jobs will soon be replaced by a CG CNN hologram broadcast version. He will never die.

[Tallest Skil]

This time the speech will be stuffed with brand new hardware...

Sure it will.

He's a kick-awesome orator, but there won't be new hardware.

[Wolfpup]

Blu-ray support... :eek:

(ducks...)

:D

It would be about time! Except if I've already ordered a Sony by then I may be mad at myself :D

I just interpreted that as that there may be nothing to announce. Other than the Mac Pro and the 17" Macbook Pro, I don't think they'd do much but bump stuff. Now granted, those may be HUGE changes, but Apple's all focused on the cheaper stuff in terms of the big events.

[dagamer34]

Steve'd better be there.... there is NO way i'm watching a keynote done by ...ugh... Phil Schiller!

It'd probably be done by Tim Cook, in all honesty.

[drichards]

Maybe new hardware you already heard about months ago in newegg.com's damn letters they send every week...

[Tallest Skil]

Maybe new hardware you already heard about months ago in newegg.com's damn letters they send every week...

Eh?

[Wolfpup]

Eh?

Yeah, what?!? Hee hee. I love Newegg, but I don't remember them preannouncing the 18.4" Macbook Pro with Geforce 9800GTX, quad core CPU, adequate cooling to run everything at max, Blu Ray, and built in tuner that works with their new DVR software :D

Dang, I can't wait! :D

[dontwalkhand]

It would be about time! Except if I've already ordered a Sony by then I may be mad at myself :D

I just interpreted that as that there may be nothing to announce. Other than the Mac Pro and the 17" Macbook Pro, I don't think they'd do much but bump stuff. Now granted, those may be HUGE changes, but Apple's all focused on the cheaper stuff in terms of the big events.

You would actually buy a SLOWNY COMPUTER?

[queshy]

I hope he turns on the RDF because I'm ready to be suckered into the next big thing! *submits to Mapple*

[Wolfpup]

You would actually buy a SLOWNY COMPUTER?

Yeah...I mean is there something wrong with them? (I'd like to know, 'cause whatever I buy it's a lot of money :( ) The AW I'm looking at has a similar price to the Macbook Pro, but has a physical wifi switch and an Intel chipset, Blu Ray, and a TV tuner.

I hope he turns on the RDF because I'm ready to be suckered into the next big thing! *submits to Mapple*

[Peace]

New quad-core iMac

The long awaited ( for me at least ) 10" Newton!!

[drichards]

I was just referring to newegg's "here's the latest and greatest parts to build your new computer with" letters. There's a bunch in my junk mail folder. Intel i7 and blah blah blah...

[Tallest Skil]

I was just referring to newegg's "here's the latest and greatest parts to build your new computer with" letters. There's a bunch in my junk mail folder. Intel i7 and blah blah blah...

What does that have to do with anything involving Apple? There won't be Nehalem Macs save the Mac Pro until Q4 2009.

[gilkisson]

Tiger Direct is worse, IMO, than NewEgg. With their emails all the time, taunting me, tantalizing me. It's not spam, it's geek porn!

[numbsafari]

It's still too soon to launch the iPhone tablet. If they are planning to use ARM chips and not Intel chips then it's just too soon. And they won't say anything until it's ready.

I'm expecting to hear about updates to the iMac and Mac Pro. On the Mac Pro front we might see Nehalem chips and on the iMac side I'm expecting juiced up graphics capabilities and (possibly) a design more in line with the new cinema display and (possibly) a bump to a quad core processor though not Nehalem just yet.

It's also too soon to talk about Snow Leopard. There might be some discussion about iLife/iWork updates but I'm not holding my breath there. I'm guessing iLife will get a bump with Snow Leopard and iWork will follow shortly after.

Oh, and I could see them announcing a 17" MBP based on the new manufacturing technique now that the first batches of MB and MBP15 are out and about. That one might be scuttled by the economic outlook, but my gut tells me that it kills them to have such a mixed up product line at the moment.

It's an open question as to whether Steve makes the presentation, but I think he simply has to. He's set too much of a precedent in the past. Then again, if Steve is good for anything it's breaking precedent.

[alexbates]

He must be at the Keynote if he is the CEO. I also hope that he is the main speaker.

Without Jobs, Apple would not exist. I hope he continues to be the CEO for a long time, and not end up like Bill Gates.

[gkarris]

New quad-core iMac

The long awaited ( for me at least ) 10" Newton!!

iPad Tablet (10" Newton)
nVidia-based Minis
iMac and Mac Pro Updates and price decreases

(runs and hides credit cards...)

[SwiftLives]

Jobs really should begin passing the torch. His personality and presence is dangerously intertwined with the company. What would help would be a killer keynote without Jobs.

And that would start all sorts of speculation that Jobs is sick again or about to retire.

But a keynote delivered by Ive would be incredible.

[Wolfpup]

It's still too soon to launch the iPhone tablet. If they are planning to use ARM chips and not Intel chips then it's just too soon. And they won't say anything until it's ready.

I'm expecting to hear about updates to the iMac and Mac Pro. On the Mac Pro front we might see Nehalem chips and on the iMac side I'm expecting juiced up graphics capabilities and (possibly) a design more in line with the new cinema display and (possibly) a bump to a quad core processor though not Nehalem just yet.

It's also too soon to talk about Snow Leopard. There might be some discussion about iLife/iWork updates but I'm not holding my breath there. I'm guessing iLife will get a bump with Snow Leopard and iWork will follow shortly after.

Oh, and I could see them announcing a 17" MBP based on the new manufacturing technique now that the first batches of MB and MBP15 are out and about. That one might be scuttled by the economic outlook, but my gut tells me that it kills them to have such a mixed up product line at the moment.

It's an open question as to whether Steve makes the presentation, but I think he simply has to. He's set too much of a precedent in the past. Then again, if Steve is good for anything it's breaking precedent.

I hope they don't use ARM chips. The iPod touch 2nd gen is the fastest mobile OS X device they ship, and it's completely straining against that CPU. I can't imagine something that's supposed to be more fully featured trying to run on that thing...plus it's much more useful if it can run REAL OS X of some version.

[-hh]

He must be at the Keynote if he is the CEO. I also hope that he is the main speaker.

Without Jobs, Apple would not exist. I hope he continues to be the CEO for a long time, and not end up like Bill Gates.


Quite understandable. It also would send a calming influence to the Stock price too...

Of course, what I wouldn't mind is for Steve to provide some lighter moments. Two things I can think of would be:

Announce/demo an app for the iPhone that puts Bill & Jerry Seinfeld online.

Provide 'Market Guidance' that Katie Huberty's IQ has been downgraded ... to 65.


:D

-hh

[eyephone]

PowerBook G5 next tuesday?
Safari feels snappier?
Cinema Display updates any day now?
10-finger gesture support for Snow Leopard?
Mac Mini will die?
Final Cut Studio finally Cocoa?


Nice to get most of them out of the way early....

Here are some more:

Google Street View for ipod touch?
Copy and Paste for iphone?
itouch tablet / netbook?
Tethering for iphone?
Snow Leopard Speed Comparisons?
Imac touchscreen?

[RTiii320]

Agreed, I cannot see Macworld without Jobs. Being the "king" of Apple it may shed some negative light if he does not show up as everyone expects.

[xbjllb]

What does that have to do with anything involving Apple? There won't be Nehalem Macs save the Mac Pro until Q4 2009.

Hmm, given current and projected economic conditions, hope that Apple AND Jobs are both still around by then to get MY $10,000 I've been hanging onto now for two years waiting for a state of the art flagship tower that can handle blu-ray properly.

:apple:

[talkingfuture]

phew! Now the build up can begin. Bring on the rumours!

[gilkisson]

Nice to get most of them out of the way early....

Here are some more:

Google Street View for ipod touch?
Agree, it should exist.
Copy and Paste for iphone?
Not anytime soon.
itouch tablet / netbook?
Not anytime soon.
Tethering for iphone?
Not up to Apple.
Snow Leopard Speed Comparisons?
Not till it releases.
[QUOTE]Imac touchscreen?
You wish. And so do I.

[alexbates]

Agree, it should exist.

Not anytime soon.

Not anytime soon.

Not up to Apple.
[QUOTE]Snow Leopard Speed Comparisons?
Not till it releases.

You wish. And so do I.

I don't know about the copy and paste thing. It could be a fairly basic feature that Apple could add in a future version of the iPhone.

[Tallest Skil]

Hmm, given current and projected economic conditions, hope that Apple AND Jobs are both still around by then to get MY $10,000 I've been hanging onto now for two years waiting for a state of the art flagship tower that can handle blu-ray properly.

:apple:

We all need to shut up about the economy. I mean come on! The only way in which it has affected my family is that gas is cheaper now. That's really it. Apple has 25 billion dollars and no debt. They'll be fine.

Also, we also need to keep dreaming on the Blu-ray thing.

[gilkisson]

I don't know about the copy and paste thing. It could be a fairly basic feature that Apple could add in a future version of the iPhone.

I suspect you are right. Heck, I bet lunch you are right. But that does not mean it will happen... look at everything else that would be "easy" to do right now: put FireWire back in, update the Mini, and (dare I go there) make a screen that's not also a mirror. Think we'll see those?

[ivladster]

Steve isn't leaving Apple yet, so its like in his duties list. But I like when he lets other people speak. We should start getting used to it.

[Kwill]

He's losing his dynamic stage presence. I would be satisfied if he served as a chairman, introducing other Apple employees for various announcements.

[dernhelm]

We all need to shut up about the economy. I mean come on! The only way in which it has affected my family is that gas is cheaper now. That's really it. Apple has 25 billion dollars and no debt. They'll be fine.

Also, we also need to keep dreaming on the Blu-ray thing.

Good for you. I'm thrilled that the downturn hasn't affected you. Unfortunately there are a few million other people that are losing their homes as a result of this. Are you going to tell those people to shut up about the economy?

Trust me, $25 Billion in the bank or not, Apple is worried about the economy.

You should be too.

[pmoeser]

Blu-ray support... :eek:

(ducks...)

:D

I wouldn't worry about ducking. It's not going to happen.

[twoodcc]

well i sure hope we hear an announcement soon. i don't know what to expect if he's not there, but it can't be good

[Kar98]

PowerBook G5 next tuesday?
Safari feels snappier?
Cinema Display updates any day now?
10-finger gesture support for Snow Leopard?
Mac Mini will die?
Final Cut Studio finally Cocoa?


Finder^ Spotlight fixed?

[IJ Reilly]

How many of you are willing to bet that Steve will not be addressing MacWorld? I mean, put money on it?

That's what I thought.

[dernhelm]

I went back and read the original article. The jist was:

Apple has not come out and stated the obvious. This must mean the sky is falling.

This kind of "sensationalist journalism" makes me ill.

[ChrisA]

It's getting to the point where I don't care any more. The low point was when Steve talked about a phone and not much else during macworld. And then there was that "special event" where all he could announce was that the iPod Shuffle was now available in multiple colors and the nano would be tall and curved. And then at the next event they talked about a new manufacturing process for notebook cases.

This time I bet he announces that Apple notebooks will ship with a free trial size package of screen cleaner. Oh and "one more thing... In six months Snow Leopard will ship with zero new user facing features. Thanks for comming."

I hope I'm wrong but I'm not betting on it. I doubt we will see the mid-tower, blu-ray, netbooks or anything but "speed bumps" at most.

[Tallest Skil]

I doubt we will see the mid-tower, blu-ray, netbooks or anything but "speed bumps" at most.

Uh, bingo? Of course we'll never see those things.

[BRLawyer]

He must be at the Keynote if he is the CEO. I also hope that he is the main speaker.

Without Jobs, Apple would not exist. I hope he continues to be the CEO for a long time, and not end up like Bill Gates.

For a good roundup of SJ's keynotes:

http://blogs.pcworld.com/techlog/archives/003627.html

He is surely the best presenter on Earth, no doubt about it. Check his keynote on the G4 Cube...what an awesome moment of RDF..!

But I really hope he's had some time to recover from his latest ailments, gain some weight and come back in full force, hopefully with a jacket and no tie as was the case with his earlier keynotes at Apple post-'97...GO APPLE! :rolleyes:

[schneb]

Add me to the "Finally Get The New Mac Pro" list. It won't be at MacWorld, but add me.

Here's hoping for a Mid-Tower Mac Pro. But I won't hold my breath.

[DARKJ3DI]

how can 10 people rate this article as negative? steve is an awesome public speaker! if it wasnt for him we wouldnt have wouldnt have Apple and we would all be using window$!

[schneb]

You would actually buy a SLOWNY COMPUTER?

I was thinking "Sorny" ala Simpsons. ;)

[lazyrighteye]

Steve's keynote high water mark was - hands down - the initial iPhone announcement. He was practically in tears; thanking friends, family... he was uncharacteristically sentimental. Very much felt like he knew it was his last (if not his most important). Was bizarre...

And while I think there are more Stevenotes ahead, none will come close to surpassing that epic iPhone keynote.

[NT1440]

lotta people predicting steves downfall......


ugh.

[Tallest Skil]

Here's hoping for a Half-Height Mac Pro. But I won't hold my breath.

Time for an If/Then flowchart.

If: Steve Jobs=Alive//://Then: no xMac. Ever.

[newamiga]

Well if Steve were not going to present the keynote, it would make the most sense to delay that message as long as possible to not have more companies pull out of the show and also get as many people as they can to sign up to attend the show. I don't doubt that if they announced that either Jobs would not present, or that Apple would not present at the keynote (the former seeming more likely every day to me, the latter seeming like a long shot) that attendee numbers would be way down. I don't envy Paul Kent his job. He does an awesome job of putting on the show every year. I just hope Apple decides to announce that Steve will be there and does that soon. I will be there again for another of many MW Expo's and keynotes. It would just not be the same without Steve there to give the speech.

[MacsRgr8]

Time for an If/Then flowchart.

If: Steve Jobs=Alive//://Then: no xMac. Ever.

You should start a thread:

If: Steve Jobs=Alive//://Then: <fill in> Ever.
;)

My fill:
- No Mac OS X on generic PC hardware

[schneb]

Finder^ Spotlight fixed?

Finder and Spotlight fixed? After how many Feedback requests I have sent? These two alone are an embarrassment for their bugs and lack of consistency. My only hope is that Snow Leopard will fix what is wrong rather than add something else that does not work properly. </:apple:>

[schneb]

Time for an If/Then flowchart.

If: Steve Jobs=Alive//://Then: no xMac. Ever.

I see no bugs in that code. I would, however, give it a REPEAT and make xMac a variable that accesses a DIM file full of nixed products and software fixes.

MacsRgr8 - That will begin our DIM file. :)

No Mac OS X on generic PC hardware
No RETURN to begin Spotlight search
No default for Spotlight to search current folder
No tablet Mac
No mid-tower
No Pro-sumer hardware or software
No Blu-Ray support

[El Carbonite]

After all, I didn't just pay $200+ to Macworld Expo to see the keynote. It would be very disappointing to a lot of folks, and a very lackluster expo.

[Rot'nApple]

Really looking forward to a new Stevenote. His presentation flow/technique/style alone is simply world-class.
This time the speech will be stuffed with brand new hardware, significant updates to excisting lines and lots of great news. Steve + Actual content = Killer combo. Can't wait.

Nah. This year Steve will give his "Johnny Appleseed" keynote. :apple:

No major product announcements but a lot of "seeds" planted of some really, really cool products that should be coming out in time when the economy shows signs of recovery and people start buying again. :rolleyes:

[sighlent]

Time for an If/Then flowchart.

If: Steve Jobs=Alive//://Then: no xMac. Ever.

How true. This is one thing Steve should give into. Mac Pro sales would not hurt that much, they would definitely tap into the market of people seeking out Hackintoshes.

[skythefly13]

And this is a surprise because?

[justbn]

My hopes are pinned on that rumored AppleTV/LCD. I'd love an all in one solution. Come on Steve, give me a post Xmas present!

[alexbates]

How true. This is one thing Steve should give into. Mac Pro sales would not hurt that much, they would definitely tap into the market of people seeking out Hackintoshes.

Hackintosh's are the main reason that Apple should come out with a netbook or a cheap tablet. By looking at all of the comments, it looks like people don't think that Apple will do this. Why not?

[Tallest Skil]

Hackintosh's are the main reason that Apple should come out with a netbook or a cheap tablet. By looking at all of the comments, it looks like people don't think that Apple will do this. Why not?

... How does this make sense at all? The Hackintosh community is a group of xMac fanboys. Having a tiny, worthless laptop or a kick-awesome MacTablet is a completely different market.

[137489]

Little to know news...
Updates done early in the year (new macbooks/pros in October, new ipod in September)....
vendors pulling out.....

Either this economy is hitting worse, Steve not well (which we know there has been a lot of false speculations this year)..

or the fact they released they are not going to try to dispell leaks and rumors, they tightened ship and there is a big surprise planned.

dunno - but no news lead to too much rumors and worries.

Please don't let it be anything bad. I just switched my entire platform, and my employer is starting to embrace macs. I am one of the testers with the initial roll out.

[Wie Gehts]

Jobs announces a revamping of all computer lines into sleek wafer thin objet d'art. No cpu, no drives, no display, no i/o. Just a thin sheet of metal with the apple logo.

Fanboi's go wild and lash back at content artists complaints saying, "no ones stopping you from buying a refurbish."

[NT1440]

Please don't let it be anything bad. I just switched my entire platform, and my employer is starting to embrace macs. I am one of the testers with the initial roll out.

Yup, apple is waiting till their biggest event of the year to release bad news....

:rolleyes:

I'm getting really sick of all the speculation, not just on here, but everywhere in life.

I'm amazed that people can lose billions of dollars because some jackass thinks product x isnt as stellar as it could be, meaning a corporation is about to die.....


yes im just ranting.

[Tallest Skil]

yes im just ranting.

Don't worry. So are the people saying that product x isn't as stellar as it "should" be.

[El Carbonite]

Taking into account the lack of rumors in the mill lately, it seems like Apple is trying to keep a pretty tight ship after the leaks we've had in the past year (unibody notebook enclosure, iPod nano 4G, etc).

[bobbleheadbob]

He better be there. I'm going, and the highlight of the trip will surely be the Keynote. Well, one of them anyways! ;)

Only 3 more weeks to MWSF! :D

[puffnstuff]

If: Steve Jobs=Alive//://Then: No notebook under 13.3" Ever.

if you want that get a time machine

If: Steve Jobs=Alive//://Then: no blu-ray Ever.

I have a feeling they will start weeding out optical drives period in the next yr or two

If: Steve Jobs=Alive//://Then: no larger iPhone/TouchEver.

It has already been proven possible that you can display something other then video and photos on an external screen with the touch/iphone. As soon as it is made official there will be 3rd party attachments like the RedFly

[ratattak]

no jobs?!?!!?

There will be rioting on the streets. And pillaging of villages. And slaughtering of all!

Honestly though, it would really suck without him.
:)

[137489]

Quote:
Originally Posted by shervieux

Please don't let it be anything bad. I just switched my entire platform, and my employer is starting to embrace macs. I am one of the testers with the initial roll out.

Yup, apple is waiting till their biggest event of the year to release bad news....

:rolleyes:



I didn't mean that... what I meant was I hope the lack of news and such a low-key MW, I just meant I hope nothing bad is on the horizon. I didn't mean they wouls announce bad news a MW.

[Niiro13]

Doesn't he always give the keynote for Macworld and WWDC? Or am I missing something?

It makes no sense for him not to, right? :confused:

[NT1440]

Quote:
Originally Posted by shervieux

Please don't let it be anything bad. I just switched my entire platform, and my employer is starting to embrace macs. I am one of the testers with the initial roll out.


I didn't mean that... what I meant was I hope the lack of news and such a low-key MW, I just meant I hope nothing bad is on the horizon. I didn't mean they wouls announce bad news a MW.

Heres to hoping for a great MW

cheers

[Winni]

No Mac OS X on generic PC hardware


Yes, it is quite unlikely that OS X will be made available for non-Apple hardware as long as Steve Jobs is in charge.

On the other hand, the pressure on Apple has been increasing steadily since they migrated to Intel processors and they have a great opportunity there. I'm sure they would easily make more money with OS X software licenses than they could ever make with Mac hardware. So I would not categorically rule it out anymore.

In fact, they wouldn't have to do much to make this fly: All they had to do is remove the hardware-dongle code inside OS X and hand-out a hardware compatibility list to interested companies like Dell so that they can ship compatible machines with a pre-installed OS X. In other words, they'd only have to clone Microsoft's very well working OEM business model and they'd be extremely successful.

Snow Leopard could be exactly the right version of OS X for that launch: No legacy PowerPC support, Intel architecture only. And with the still lacking acceptance for Vista, the launch window couldn't be any better than now.

[ProwlingTiger]

Steve Jobs? At Macworld? WOW! I...had always dreamed of this :D

Joking,
Seriously, I'd like to know when he ISNT there lol.

[pmpknetr21]

PowerBook G5 next tuesday?
Safari feels snappier?
Cinema Display updates any day now?
10-finger gesture support for Snow Leopard?
Mac Mini will die?
Final Cut Studio finally Cocoa?

Let me just finally get the new Mac Pro for God's sake...

This really made me chuckle.... Especially the "Safari feels snappier" line. Man, I needed that.

[Stately]

Steves talkin. Tablet please.:cool:

[Bonte]

Yes, it is quite unlikely that OS X will be made available for non-Apple hardware as long as Steve Jobs is in charge.

On the other hand, the pressure on Apple has been increasing steadily since they migrated to Intel processors and they have a great opportunity there. I'm sure they would easily make more money with OS X software licenses than they could ever make with Mac hardware. So I would not categorically rule it out anymore.

In fact, they wouldn't have to do much to make this fly: All they had to do is remove the hardware-dongle code inside OS X and hand-out a hardware compatibility list to interested companies like Dell so that they can ship compatible machines with a pre-installed OS X. In other words, they'd only have to clone Microsoft's very well working OEM business model and they'd be extremely successful.

When they stop growing is the time to go OEM, sooner than that would be stupid i think. But Dell wants it bad, they already have different models that are 100 % hardware compatible with osX except for the EFI compatibility.

[FoxyKaye]

Did anybody notice how many Apple products were in the Disney movie "Bolt"? I think Stevenote is going to introduce a whole new era of computing with an iDog - does your Internet and fetches a ball all in the same product, all without cleaning up pet mess.

Then again, maybe the dearth of rumors for the upcoming Macworld means Steve finally found the internal snitches at Apple and its vendors and had them assassinated. Or just locked in a closet somewhere. Or cut off one of their fingers or something.

[NT1440]

Did anybody notice how many Apple products were in the Disney movie "Bolt"? I think Stevenote is going to introduce a whole new era of computing with an iDog - does your Internet and fetches a ball all in the same product, all without cleaning up pet mess.

Then again, maybe the dearth of rumors for the upcoming Macworld means Steve finally found the internal snitches at Apple and its vendors and had them assassinated. Or just locked in a closet somewhere. Or cut off one of their fingers or something.

Mighta had something to do with Jobs founding pixar.....

Edit: NVM he bought it.

[alexbates]

It is obvious that Jobs is going to be at Macworld unless there is some sort of tragety that happens. We would all die without him.

Does anyone think that we could see new products a few days after Macworld and not just hear what will happen later in 2009?

[inkswamp]

Steve'd better be there.... there is NO way i'm watching a keynote done by ...ugh... Phil Schiller!

No love for Phil, huh?

I don't think many people can step into Steve Jobs' shoes for these keynotes, but my first pick would be Phil Schiller because he's one of those few executives who lets it slip from time-to-time that he actually has a goofy sense of humor. I think that could be turned into a great replacement for Steve's stage presentations. Besides, I like Phil's way of presenting things. He's definitely less epic-sounding than Steve but sometimes that's a good thing. Everything unveiled on stage does not need to be THE GREATEST THING WE'VE EVER DONE, SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO CHANGE THE WAY THE COMPUTING/MUSIC/PHONE WORLD WORKS.

[Tallest Skil]

No love for Phil, huh?

I don't think many people can step into Steve Jobs' shoes for these keynotes, but my first pick would be Phil Schiller. Personally, I like his way of presenting things. He's definitely less epic-sounding than Steve but sometimes that's a good thing. Everything unveiled on stage does not need to be THE GREATEST THING WE'VE EVER DONE, SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO CHANGE THE WAY THE COMPUTING/MUSIC/PHONE WORLD WORKS.

Yes, but...

You have to admit, Phil Schiller doesn't...

Well...

He doesn't say, "Boom!" :p

[NT1440]

No love for Phil, huh?

I don't think many people can step into Steve Jobs' shoes for these keynotes, but my first pick would be Phil Schiller because he's one of those few executives who lets it slip from time-to-time that he has a goofy sense of humor. I think that could be turned into a great replacement for Steve's stage presentations. Besides, I like Phil's way of presenting things. He's definitely less epic-sounding than Steve but sometimes that's a good thing. Everything unveiled on stage does not need to be THE GREATEST THING WE'VE EVER DONE, SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO CHANGE THE WAY THE COMPUTING/MUSIC/PHONE WORLD WORKS.

Thats how you pump up your fanbase....

[AidenShaw]

Heres to hoping for a great MW

Yeh, unlike the last couple of years.

Last year I spent $13 to go to MWSF, and it was disappointing.

[SleepyHead157]

Steve has to be there, even if he decides to leave he'll leave slowly on his own terms when he feels comfortable. Plus any keynote without Steve is not a Keynote at all.

[neutrino23]

Jobs really should begin passing the torch. His personality and presence is dangerously intertwined with the company. What would help would be a killer keynote without Jobs.

And that would start all sorts of speculation that Jobs is sick again or about to retire.

But a keynote delivered by Ive would be incredible.

It might make sense for Ive to deliver the keynotes. Having the CEO deliver the keynote is really unusual. If you watch the parade of CEOs that Steve has brought on stage you see that most of them are not competent at public speaking and know little about their products features. The MW keynote should be delivered by a product manager/marketing person/designer as they really know the product and have a passion about it.

[Tallest Skil]

The MW keynote should be delivered by a product manager/marketing person/designer as they really know the product and have a passion about it.

And... that's what Steve is. Before he dropped out of college, his major was advertising. He knows how to sell a product, and that's what he does every time he walks on stage.

The Reality Distortion Field works because in the way he presents, Steve makes you believe that the product is amazing, and he makes you believe that it is amazing by believing himself that it is amazing.

[law guy]

I'm a fan of a S.J. keynote - with the January 2003 three-size Power Book Alu notebook intro being one of my favorites. But my excitement is tempered because I see Apple producing a few revisions that seem to miss the mark, at least for me. In mind here, I have the last S.J. hosted event where matte screens on MacBook Pros were nixed as well as the separate track pad button. Perhaps Steve has read all of the photography sites panning the beloved notebooks in their last iteration and will bring back reasonable screens at least.

[NT1440]

To be honest, i love the keynotes regardless of if its a "worthy" product or not. That is simply because Im such a tech lover tho. Plus I cant think of anyone that gives a better presentation than jobs.


One things for sure, ill be watching.

[kdarling]

He knows how to sell a product, and that's what he does every time he walks on stage.

Yes, you can tell that every word is carefully chosen and rehearsed, to sell the products, even while appearing off the cuff.

The Reality Distortion Field works because in the way he presents, Steve makes you believe that the product is amazing, and he makes you believe that it is amazing by believing himself that it is amazing.

I don't think he does. It's really clear that he thinks he's much smarter than most of his customers, and revels in making them applaud even minor ideas or improvements, and ignore glaring omissions.

Anyone who's done similar dog and pony shows, can recognize (and even admire) such a refined BS artist.

[Tallest Skil]

I don't think he does. It's really clear that he thinks he's much smarter than most of his customers, and revels in making them applaud even minor ideas or improvements.

Anyone who's done similar dog and pony shows, can recognize (and even admire) such a refined BS artist.

The "Distortion" part has dual meaning. He distorts to make us think it's amazing, and he distorts to make us think that he thinks it's amazing. :D

[JGowan]

He must be at the Keynote if he is the CEO. I also hope that he is the main speaker.

Without Jobs, Apple would not exist. I hope he continues to be the CEO for a long time, and not end up like Bill Gates.Apple would certainly be in a better place if Steve weren't there tomorrow than when Scully/Board kicked him to the curb in the mid-80s. He's putting in the right people and a roadmap of product, culture/mentality firmly in place right now.

Apple will exist. And it will thrive and prosper.

[Hiddenlionheart]

Yeah...I mean is there something wrong with them? (I'd like to know, 'cause whatever I buy it's a lot of money :( ) The AW I'm looking at has a similar price to the Macbook Pro, but has a physical wifi switch and an Intel chipset, Blu Ray, and a TV tuner.

Well. If you are asking if there is something wrong with Sony computers, I'd say yes. They do use inferior hardware (had harddrive failure and overheating issues), and there is a lot of software issues. I had an Sony FZ-470E, after dealing with various issues, I sold it and bought a macbook. Much better computer. The screen is much better on mac than on any other computer. As for blurary support, there are external drives that support mac, and truth be told they really are not that great. Using bluray on a laptop you get really bad battery life.

Hope that helps a little.

[golfstud]

Ok a few things.

1)Steve may not be feeling well. He has had health issues. Apple may be waiting to see if he is up to the task.

2)He has been sharing the stage more and more over the last two years.

3)He may not feel there is anything GREAT to say, if he cannot get the record companies to go DRM free. I don't think Steve is all that excited about introducing new computers anymore, he is about "game-changing."
4)Apple and IDG may be watching the attendance numbers and ticket holders. This HAS to be a down year, dare I say it the LAST MacWorld as we know it. The last downturn(the dot com bust) killed Boston/NY.

Having said all this, I think Jobs takes the stage and shows off the new MAC PRO and a new cooler mini and "something special" either a tablet or a mid priced tower. I think the record companies are holding this up because I think the BIG announcement is this...
DRM free and one more thing...THE BEATLES on ITUNES with Paul and Ringo onstage. I guarantee this IS a way that Apple would spend some of it's BILLIONS. The reality isn't nearly as cool as the PRESS.

later,
golfstud:):):)

[Mykbibby]

Absolutely worthless post.

Let me fill everyone in on a little secret: Steve Jobs will give the keynote no matter what. Period.

This story isn't even worth Page 2.

[jaw04005]

2003

Macworld Expo Speaker Announcement, September 30, 2002
Macworld Expo Keynote, January 9, 2003

WWDC Speaker Announcement, May 8, 2003
WWDC Keynote, June 23, 2003

2004

Macworld Expo Speaker Announcement, December 18, 2003
Macworld Expo Keynote, January 5, 2004

WWDC Speaker Announcement, May 4, 2004
WWDC Keynote, June 28, 2004

2005

Macworld Expo Speaker Announcement, November 16, 2004
Macworld Expo Keynote, January 11, 2005

WWDC Speaker Announcement, May 2, 2005
WWDC Keynote, June 6, 2005

2006

Macworld Expo Speaker Announcement, December 1, 2005
Macworld Expo Keynote, January 9, 2006

WWDC Speaker Announcement, June 26, 2006
WWDC Keynote, August 7, 2006

2007

Macworld Expo Speaker Announcement, October 3, 2006
Macworld Expo Keynote, January 8, 2007

WWDC Speaker Announcement, May 1, 2007
WWDC Keynote, June 11, 2007

2008

Macworld Expo Speaker Announcement, December 3, 2007
Macworld Expo Keynote, January 15, 2008

WWDC Speaker Announcement, May 13, 2008
WWDC Keynote, June 9, 2008

Historically, it should be noted that the Macworld announcement always comes from IDG Expo, and the WWDC announcement directly from Apple. At most, Apple publishes a link to the IDG Expo press release on their "Hot News" Web site. Apple does not issue their own pre-keynote press release for Macworld.

[bwaadass]

Great post jaw04005!! So historically, latest date for an announcement was Dec 18th...

To me it seems strange, I mean, if he's going to do the keynote then why not confirm it as early as possible to encourage ticket sales and raise interest?

One explanation I could think of is that because the rumour mill is more mainstream these days (and generally gets more press attention) Jobs may not want to impact xmas sales of consumer goods by increasing the profile of this event too early.

[MacFly123]

Ok signal the false reports of Steve's poor health while people make a fortune from playing with Apple's stock! :rolleyes: Steve will be there, chill people.

And don't create all this unrealistic hype for product releases and then whine afterwards. Just have fun and see what comes.

[scunky]

Are we about to see Steve Jobs Stand Down?
Mac World would be a fitting time to do it!

[Tallest Skil]

Are we about to see Steve Jobs Stand Down?
Mac World would be a fitting time to do it!

Right...

"Ladies and gentlemen, in light of this recent economic downturn, I'm giving up on my company."

That's exactly what will happen.

[scunky]

Right...

"Ladies and gentlemen, in light of this recent economic downturn, I'm giving up on my company."

That's exactly what will happen.

The "joint announcement" thing sounds strange
The shareholders don't like cryptic comments like that.

[alexbates]

Absolutely worthless post.

Let me fill everyone in on a little secret: Steve Jobs will give the keynote no matter what. Period.

This story isn't even worth Page 2.

Agreed. There is a chance that Jobs might not be the main speaker, but he will be at Macworld unless something happens with his health.

[CaryMacGuy]

I think I could watch a keynote done by Jonny Ive...He captured my attention when he was speaking in October. The only thing is he should learn to say "Aluminum" like everyone else.

Tim Cook, although a little drier, was not bad either. He kept me attention in October too. Of course, in both cases, I kept thinking "ok, when do I get to hear Steve?"

However, that being said, Steve Jobs has that something about him that just causes people to follow him. He could come to Macworld, introduce the iTurd and people would be standing outside an Apple store, just waiting in line to be the first one to hold this piece of ******.

Unfortunately, Steve is not immortal and one day Apple will have to survive without him. We all hope that day doesn't come any time soon but I am realistic enough to realize that he is 53 and I am 24...I will (barring any tragedy) see the day where Apple no longer has Steve Jobs. It is sad but true.

[Thomas2006]

Here's hoping for a Mid-Tower Mac Pro. But I won't hold my breath.
That would be very nice, but if it happens I do not think we will see it until after "Snow Leopard" comes preinstalled on the Mac. The same number of people that buy a mid-tower Mac Pro with "Leopard" will buy one with "Snow Leopard", but not everyone that buys one with "Leopard" will update it to "Snow Leopard". Now what is realistic is:

iMac - updated graphics, FireWire400 dropped, mini DisplayPort, and a quad-core processor (CTO at least)

Mac mini - updated with MacBook internals, mini DisplayPort, and FireWire400 dropped; however, Apple could replace it with FireWire800 since the Mac mini is a desktop model.

iWork & iLife - It has been 16 months so it is due for an update, but Apple might wait until "Snow Leopard" so 1) they are compiled 64-bit top-to-bottom from day-one instead of doing it through an update, or more likely because 2) some of the applications will require QuickTime X.

Cinema Displays - especially if the Mac mini is updated.

MacBook Pro 17" - We will get a date on when it will start shipping.

[chatin]

Steve needs to avoid being another Adam Osborne. I am seeing some parallels here. Don't come out with a Mac Snow Vixen. A.O. had a superior product, but sales started lagging the industry after he talked too much future-speak.

[The Toddfather]

Steve'd better be there.... there is NO way i'm watching a keynote done by ...ugh... Phil Schiller!


It'd probably be done by Tim Cook, in all honesty.

Yahoo news... "Apple said Philip Schiller, a marketing executive, will deliver the keynote instead of Jobs."

Well done ingenious, as for you dagamer...

[ingenious]

Yahoo news... "Apple said Philip Schiller, a marketing executive, will deliver the keynote instead of Jobs."

Well done ingenious, as for you dagamer...

i know... i know!! i'm regretting EVER saying that now.

[puffnstuff]

I don't get how if Steve Jobs goes that means the end of Apple. Have you seen the crap Apple came out with lately? I am ready for a tablet and an MBA with a smaller footprint as well as the consumer notebook dropping back down to the $899 point. I see the light at the end of the tunnel!

[The Toddfather]

I don't get how if Steve Jobs goes that means the end of Apple. Have you seen the crap Apple came out with lately? I am ready for a tablet and an MBA with a smaller footprint as well as the consumer notebook dropping back down to the $899 point. I see the light at the end of the tunnel!

I agree with you to a point, but Steve's nitpicking every little detail is the reason why Apple has 20 billion in the bank and beats evert PC product hands down. I would hate to see him go.

[Mykbibby]

Steve'd better be there.... there is NO way i'm watching a keynote done by ...ugh... Phil Schiller!

Oh yes you are! :eek:

[Electro Funk]

Good for you. I'm thrilled that the downturn hasn't affected you. Unfortunately there are a few million other people that are losing their homes as a result of this. Are you going to tell those people to shut up about the economy?

Trust me, $25 Billion in the bank or not, Apple is worried about the economy.

You should be too.

agreed...

i just went from making 130k/year to my position being eliminated due to the economy... i will get my last check on December 25... merry christmas eh?

i have held 3 jobs in my life and i am in my mid 30's. last company i was with for 8 years. got married ~ resigned from a great managerial position and hopped over to a competitor in hopes of making some more scratch to start a family. (october was my one year date with this company) brought in over 1.5 million in GP this year alone. last in... first out... three of us got hit with the wonderful news...

where i live 8% of companies are hiring and 48% are laying off...

my 401k was almost cut in half du to the market, and i had around 200k in the DOWJ & NASDAQ that are now worth around 80k...

if you think this economy isn't affecting anyone, you are living on another planet than i...

with all that being said, i still plan on buying another MPB for myself over the holidays! :D

[jecapaga]

While I got external HD access with this update via airport. iTunes no longer recognizes or sees my external drive for music. I'm SOL

[scunky]

Absolutely worthless post.

Let me fill everyone in on a little secret: Steve Jobs will give the keynote no matter what. Period.

This story isn't even worth Page 2.

EDIT: Looks like it wasn't quite so worthless after all. How a day changes things...
Tell me. How do your word taste?

[Mykbibby]

Tell me. How do your word taste?

It tastes like crap, thank you very much. This is the most surprising news to have come out of Apple since the Intel switch.