New Mac Mini at Macworld San Francisco 2009?

[yoyo5280]

How about this? I think the colors could help sales.

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x281/KevzDog/minichromatic.jpg?t=1229894482


http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=148298&d=1229234309 I think colors might work too!
or just Black and white option

click me click me click me! (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=616002)

[Dont Hurt Me]

Dont you Mini lovers think apple will replace it with a another:rolleyes:pod thingy:rolleyes:

[basesloaded190]

Dont you Mini lovers think apple will replace it with a another:rolleyes:pod thingy:rolleyes:

No, i think the mini is to important for 'switchers' to change dramatically from what it already is.

[MagnusVonMagnum]

How about a clear case top with one of those 'lighting' gas ball tricks (like used for the "Borg" recharge chambers in the Star Trek TV shows) running underneath. That'd get all the Star Trek types drooling and buying them up by the boat loads, especially if they could license some Star Trek stickers to include with it. Look! It's my Borg-O-Mac! It'd look cool on my fireplace mantle anyway along with some lava lamps and an overhead disco ball. :eek:

[eMacmadman]

I'm holding onto to my cash for a new Mini, as long as they make it better than the current ones I'll buy. I like to see Firewire stay, but I could live without it.

I believe that Target Disk Mode is an invaluable tool for a Mac and therefore the FW should stay. But, the Mini is marketed at newbies, so it will probably go.

The main reason that FW is better is that it uses a separate chip, where USB is controlled by the CPU which equals poorer performance in large transfers.

IF they throw the Mini under the bus, I'll probably by an iMac anyway. If they update that, I'll get a current gen iMac that is still in stock for a lower price.:)


I'm trying to stay optimistic, leaving OS X isn't really an viable option at this point. We'll have to wait and see.

[Mac Dummy]

if this is true ill be highly interested, all i ask is firewire since we know we will never get esata and well thats really all there is to ask for, also dont only give me display port, i need dvi

You might try an adapter like these:

DisplayPort to DVI

http://www.hdtvsupply.com/dipotodvi.html

or DisplayPort to HDMI

http://www.hdtvsupply.com/dipotohdad.html

[Gunga Din]

Can you have output for Display Port and DVI ? I don't know. I was thinking of getting a Mac Mini to share the 20" ACD I just got with my MBP. Now i'm thinking of taking the monitor back since every freaking new Apple product will be using this Display Port. EDIT> (I did find some adapters for Display Port to DVI)

Unless they make a smaller LED display thats more affordable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort#Advantages_over_DVI

[gkarris]

If the new Mini only has a display port, I think its doomed. Your telling me your gonna get the 24 LED monitor to go with this ? Who in their right f ing mind would do that?

Can you have output for Display Port and DVI ? I don't know. I was thinking of getting a Mac Mini to share the 20" ACD I just got with my MBP. Now i'm thinking of taking the monitor back since every freaking new Apple product will be using this Display Port.

Unless they make a smaller LED display thats more affordable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort#Advantages_over_DVI

You'll need a Display Port to DVI (or VGA) adapter...

[Gunga Din]

You'll need a Display Port to DVI (or VGA) adapter...

Yea, but where can u get a DVI to Display Port? U can't. 2nd, won't the adapter downgrade the Display Port technology?

Look, I understand the advantages over DVI and its royalty free, but why wouldnt u release an adapter with the new monitor? It boggles the mind. Think different? How about just think?

[internetmachine]

Apple doesn't need to change anything. Mini is perfect as it is. But if they put up the price up a tad higher to make it more exclusive I would buy a couple more in a heartbeat.

I don't know why everyone thinks Apple needs to make cheap computers. Apple is the Ferrari of the computer world. Extraordinary performance at extraordinary prices. It's a luxury item for the rich and privileged. Not something that everyone should have.

Do you see people complaining to Ferrari that their cheapest car F430 is too expensive? No, they go and buy some ****** Honda.

Whatever car Ferrari brings out, whatever price, it will sell out. Whatever hardware Apple brings out, whatever price, it will sell out.

[drewsof07]

You might try an adapter like these:

DisplayPort to DVI

http://www.hdtvsupply.com/dipotodvi.html

or DisplayPort to HDMI

http://www.hdtvsupply.com/dipotohdad.html

Neither of these products are compatible with the new Macs, as it is a "Mini" display port and as of now, the only one of its kind.

[gkarris]

Yea, but where can u get a DVI to Display Port? U can't. 2nd, won't the adapter downgrade the Display Port technology?

Look, I understand the advantages over DVI and its royalty free, but why wouldnt u release an adapter with the new monitor? It boggles the mind. Think different? How about just think?

Neither of these products are compatible with the new Macs, as it is a "Mini" display port and as of now, the only one of its kind.

We should know by MacWorld. Apple will need the adapters to hook up the new Mini to older monitors, as well as users with the new MacBooks who want to as well.

[MrZebra]

Giving it away would diminish it's exclusivity.

The same could be said about an actual argument to reply to your previous post, except that there's no exclusivity in saying that your "argument" is out of reality to say the least.

[wizard]

If the new Mini only has a display port, I think its doomed. Your telling me your gonna get the 24 LED monitor to go with this ? Who in their right f ing mind would do that?

First it isn't impossible for Apple to have a Display Port to DVI adapter ready to go with the Minis replacement. A second possibility is that the new Mini will be offered sans power supply, thus the new display would power it. This could help Apple lower the initial price. A third possibility is that Apple ships the Mini with two built in ports, if they did this though I suspect that the second port would be HDMI.

In any event I still don't understand what the hell is wrong with you people here. Technology maches on and either Apple keeps up or they disappear. It is like nobody on this forum learned anything from the PPC days!!!

Right now I have an old ViewSonic monitor with a VGA connector. You don't see me whining about not being able to plug that straight into the DVI connector on my MBP. Nope won't do that even though the monitor was one of the better available at the time. Technology maches on.

Can you have output for Display Port and DVI ? I don't know. I was thinking of getting a Mac Mini to share the 20" ACD I just got with my MBP. Now i'm thinking of taking the monitor back since every freaking new Apple product will be using this Display Port.

Most like you can have the multiple outputs though if Apple is really going consumer with the Mini an HDMI port along with Display Port makes more sense.

As to taking the monitor back for no reason other than you THINK you made a mistake - I can't support that!! I just think it is sleazy to saddle the rest of us with the expense of your return because you screwed up.

Unless they make a smaller LED display thats more affordable.

I doubt Apple will make a smaller monitor. They might make one without the built in laptop supply though. Even if Apple doesn't the industry is slowly switching over to Display Port anyways. The alternatives will come and considering Apples past marketing practices I believe they will be counting on those alternatives.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort#Advantages_over_DVI

I'm not trying to be rude here but I have little tolerance for people that go out and buy stuff and then a day later claim ignorance about what is happening in the industry and then go into a panic about returning said item. At the very least it is foolish and in this economic climate a little stupid.

The question I have is this: would you go out and buy a car so rashly and then drop into panic mode realizing that the new models are coming out in two weeks time? Further would you attempt to return the car to the dealler? It was your decision to enter into the contract so how is this any different. The same thing could be said of a lot of expensive consumer items, for example DSLRs or washers and dryers.

Of course your options may be severly strained by dealer policies that may include significant penalties. Rightfully so as such behaviour can lead to the failure of a business. It is just a shame in my estimation that everybody has to suffer because people like you run Around expecting free use of a product until the new model comes out.

Dave

[wizard]

Apple doesn't need to change anything. Mini is perfect as it is.

Right off the bat you have to dazzle us with your ignorance. No computer is perfect and in the Minis case it is an old less than perfect design.

But if they put up the price up a tad higher to make it more exclusive I would buy a couple more in a heartbeat.

Sure you would, most likely with your parents money. Apple has never been about exclustivity

I don't know why everyone thinks Apple needs to make cheap computers. Apple is the Ferrari of the computer world.

Obviously you do not know the history of Apple computer nor the sorts of people that it offered computers to. Apples pricing history is more about survival than it is about being exclusive. The fact that they are now the only desk top alternative to MS powered products says more about the management and the products they have created then it says about being exclusive.

The fact of the matter is Apple couldn't serve the markets you think it serves today simply because the company is too big. There are only so many idiots out there with the faulty thinking you have.

Extraordinary performance at extraordinary prices. It's a luxury item for the rich and privileged. Not something that everyone should have.

Again you demonstrate a lack of knowledge about the companies history and the people it has and continues to sell product to.


Do you see people complaining to Ferrari that their cheapest car F430 is too expensive? No, they go and buy some ****** Honda.

Most people I know buy that Honda because they know deep down that it will last a lot longer with far fewer troubles than the Ferrari. A products expense has never been an indicator of it's quality, durability or overall performance.


Whatever car Ferrari brings out, whatever price, it will sell out. Whatever hardware Apple brings out, whatever price, it will sell out.

Errr what about Mac Book AIR, the Cube or any of Apples other failures? You see you are trying to transfer your stupid behaviour on to humanity in general. Unfortunately most of humanity is a little more intelligent because we put value on class, durability, ease of use and resposibility. None of these apply to Farrari or your view of the world, it is a different market that many of us simply don't play in.




Dave

[Mal]

We should know by MacWorld. Apple will need the adapters to hook up the new Mini to older monitors, as well as users with the new MacBooks who want to as well.

Umm, Apple already has the adaptors necessary to hook up the new Mini to any monitor on the market, with only a rare few needing the expensive ones that most are complaining about. The only adaptors not available now are the opposite: connecting the new ACD to an older computer. Apple doesn't care to design or provide those because it's not beneficial to them. Let's face it too, how many people would buy them if they were available? I'm guessing a very small number of people.

jW

[Eric S.]

Apple doesn't care to design or provide those because it's not beneficial to them. Let's face it too, how many people would buy them if they were available? I'm guessing a very small number of people.

Back in the day, this would be an example of what Apple liked to call "third party opportunities."

[Gunga Din]

First it isn't impossible for Apple to have a Display Port to DVI adapter ready to go with the Minis replacement. A second possibility is that the new Mini will be offered sans power supply, thus the new display would power it. This could help Apple lower the initial price. A third possibility is that Apple ships the Mini with two built in ports, if they did this though I suspect that the second port would be HDMI.

In any event I still don't understand what the hell is wrong with you people here. Technology maches on and either Apple keeps up or they disappear. It is like nobody on this forum learned anything from the PPC days!!!

Right now I have an old ViewSonic monitor with a VGA connector. You don't see me whining about not being able to plug that straight into the DVI connector on my MBP. Nope won't do that even though the monitor was one of the better available at the time. Technology maches on.

Most like you can have the multiple outputs though if Apple is really going consumer with the Mini an HDMI port along with Display Port makes more sense.

As to taking the monitor back for no reason other than you THINK you made a mistake - I can't support that!! I just think it is sleazy to saddle the rest of us with the expense of your return because you screwed up.

I doubt Apple will make a smaller monitor. They might make one without the built in laptop supply though. Even if Apple doesn't the industry is slowly switching over to Display Port anyways. The alternatives will come and considering Apples past marketing practices I believe they will be counting on those alternatives.


I'm not trying to be rude here but I have little tolerance for people that go out and buy stuff and then a day later claim ignorance about what is happening in the industry and then go into a panic about returning said item. At the very least it is foolish and in this economic climate a little stupid.

The question I have is this: would you go out and buy a car so rashly and then drop into panic mode realizing that the new models are coming out in two weeks time? Further would you attempt to return the car to the dealler? It was your decision to enter into the contract so how is this any different. The same thing could be said of a lot of expensive consumer items, for example DSLRs or washers and dryers.

Of course your options may be severly strained by dealer policies that may include significant penalties. Rightfully so as such behaviour can lead to the failure of a business. It is just a shame in my estimation that everybody has to suffer because people like you run Around expecting free use of a product until the new model comes out.

Dave

Huh? You need to relax ! I havent even opened the box yet.

I have last yrs MBP and knew it was only compatible with the older ACD. I did have some regrets about not trying EBAY for a 23" , but then later just decided I made the right choice.

My issue began when I was reading about a possibly update to the Mac Mini and thought that might be neat to have along with my MBP since I have a keyboard and mouse etc. However, I realized they most likely will only put a mini display port for video out. (thats when I got a bit ticked off) I did read about some adapters for Mini Display to DVI ($29 or so), but the bottom line is I can't use a newer monitor with my old MBP and a revised Mac Mini. So basically if i got the LED then I could use it with my Mac Mini, just not the MBP. Which kind of sucks.


*** By the way, I would appreciate an apology. Calling me sleazy? You think i'm taking advantage of the economy or expect to use things for free and then return them? Untrue the way you branded me.

[MagnusVonMagnum]

Apple doesn't need to change anything. Mini is perfect as it is.


:rolleyes:


I don't know why everyone thinks Apple needs to make cheap computers. Apple is the Ferrari of the computer world. Extraordinary performance at extraordinary prices. It's a luxury item for the rich and privileged. Not something that everyone should have.

Do you see people complaining to Ferrari that their cheapest car F430 is too expensive? No, they go and buy some ****** Honda.


A luxury item for the rich and privileged? What planet are you living on? I suppose Apple's history with education was only for 'rich' schools and privileged children and that's why products of theirs like iPods and iPhones are in the hands of every day people, because they're designed for the rich and privileged? A comparison to Ferrari is odd given how underpowered most Mac models are compared to average PCs in the same price ranges. OS X is more reliable than Windows, but that would fit the "Honda" model you seem to despise (slower but more reliable) more than the Ferrari. And while it's true that many Mac USERS have traditionally gained a reputation of being arrogant snobs who have little actual knowledge of computers, I don't think this is something to strive for online. I own two Macs (one upgraded PowerMac and one brand new MBP laptop), another tower (brand new this year) with XP and Linux on it, multiple AppleTVs (also bought this year) and an iPod Touch (once again, purchased this year). Am I rich or privileged? I think not. You're living in a fantasy world and I am glad of that because if all Mac users had your attitude, I'd give mine away.


Whatever car Ferrari brings out, whatever price, it will sell out. Whatever hardware Apple brings out, whatever price, it will sell out.

Clearly, you have little ideas about the economies of scale and what it takes to keep Apple in the black. I'm guessing the day that you have to earn a living is the day you realize how ridiculous your statements are.

[jlewis2k1]

if this is true, I want to get my mum one to replace her awful vista machine.

[eMacmadman]

WTF?!? no new Mini, WTF Apple?? How much longer are you going to make us wait? I'm not saving up any more more money to buy up, so don't try that move, I used to be salesman I know that trick...:mad: I've put off buying for the last two months for today. My last BRAND NEW, unused, new to me, never been used by anyone else, Mac was a, ahem, Macintosh Classic...

[MagnusVonMagnum]

WTF?!? no new Mini, WTF Apple?? How much longer are you going to make us wait? I'm not saving up any more more money to buy up, so don't try that move, I used to be salesman I know that trick...:mad: I've put off buying for the last two months for today. My last BRAND NEW, unused, new to me, never been used by anyone else, Mac was a, ahem, Macintosh Classic...

Here, I was getting all gung-ho to actually buy one (which means I could put my current PC in an arcade cabinet for MAME use), but I can't exactly say that I'm surprised that Apple didn't release this fantasy machine that would undercut their sales of much more lucrative Macbooks (or maybe they'll just jack the starting price of the Mini up to around $1200 to compensate). Either way, it doesn't matter. There is no such machine and all those lovely rumors turned out to be elephant dung save the negative rumor about the 17" battery (true; you can't replace it so it's a joke computer now) and the DRM free music for iTunes (which they are still screwing over past customers by charging them to upgrade, which could cost a small fortune for a decent sized collection. I'm glad I never bought a single DRM track from them save a few music videos.)