iPhone Nano Concept Photo?

[ingenious]

so the question is... are iPhone apps able to handle different resolutions? I know some web apps aren't (or weren't, at least).

otherwise, that could pose a problem, but it's something Apple will have to deal with eventually.

[basesloaded190]

so the question is... are iPhone apps able to handle different resolutions? I know some web apps aren't (or weren't, at least).

otherwise, that could pose a problem, but it's something Apple will have to deal with eventually.

why can't they keep the same resolution?

[Muncher]

why can't they keep the same resolution?

They can. The screen, as I've said before, can have a higher dpi.

[mrkgoo]

why can't they keep the same resolution?

More likely, they will design the hardware, so that IT can rescale.

[huck500]

I'd think the camera lens would be the same size as on the iPhone... but it's smaller. Also, everything is smaller except the earpiece opening and the side rocker and ringer switch... what are the chances of that? I guess they could be using the same parts for those, but then why the smaller camera lens? And really, who the hell wants a smaller iPhone?:confused:

[pieomy]

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Wow some folks here and their thoughts are truly funny. Wow LOL some of you provide great laughs. The first pages of this thread are the best!!!!!!!!

[aaronxsubaru]

Here's what i think. stop arguing about the image, it is fake, most of us can tell. What is not fake is the market for non smartphones, so the concept could be real. i like the idea of it being based loosely on the current nano. i have an ipod touch i take everywhere i just need a simple small phone that makes calls, sms, and a camera. No apps, no GPS, no video, no wifi.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e178/aaronxsubaru/fourm%20stuff/Untitled-1.jpg

[alexbates]

Also, the apple logo should be the same size on both devices.

Also, the camera is a smaller. Both of the back frames are the exact same thing, just different sizes.

[lamar777]

I had the original iPhone and loved it. Things have changed. I still love the phone but my circumstance is drastically different. I no longer need many of the features of the iPhone. My phone recently crapped out and I can niether afford a new one or afford the 30$ monthly for data and there are many in this economy that are in the same boat. I would love to be using an apple product again.

I think apple would do well with a product aimed at those with tighter pocket books just as they do with the iPod bit I doubt this is the product. Back to basics scratch the gps, bluetooth, web and email, keep text, phone, ipod and the appstore apps for games and widgets @ 4 gigs $99 with contract and apple will sell a product to those of us that bought a phone almost 2 years ago and are up to renew a contract in june but cant justify a 3G iphone in the current economic state or have since realized the iphone was way more than we needed.

Typing on the smaller screen would be no biggie if the text app was landscape capable, if so the keys and keyboard would be as big or bigger than the current iPhone in portrait orientation.

[JAT]

People are so foolish, they get everything backwards. This picture is clearly a photo of the current iPhone (on the right) and the new iPhone Giga. Finally an iPhone made for a man.

[SnowLeopard2008]

I doubt this will be announced at MacWorld. Makes no sense to make it smaller.

[MacFan782040]

I'm sure somebody already mentioned this, but www.iphonenano.com gets redirected to www.apple.com/iphone...

Hmm?? :confused:

[bradl]

I'm sure somebody already mentioned this, but www.iphonenano.com gets redirected to www.apple.com/iphone...

Hmm?? :confused:

bradl@bellicha:~> whois iphonenano.com


Whois Server Version 2.0

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.

Domain Name: IPHONENANO.COM
Registrar: FABULOUS.COM PTY LTD.
Whois Server: whois.fabulous.com
Referral URL: http://www.fabulous.com
Name Server: NS1.FABULOUS.COM
Name Server: NS2.FABULOUS.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 15-jul-2008
Creation Date: 11-aug-2006
Expiration Date: 11-aug-2009

Domain iphonenano.com:

1-33 Lenina Str.
Aprelevka, Moscow region 143360 RU

Administrative contact:
Technical contact:
Billing contact:

Alexander Bitkin
avensen.sw@googlemail.com
1-33 Lenina Str.
Aprelevka, Moscow region 143360 RU
Phone: +7.9035245042
Fax:

Record dates:
Record created on: 2006-08-11 23:30:57 UTC
Record modified on: 2008-07-15 13:50:51 UTC
Record expires on: 2009-08-11 UTC


Someone in Russia owns the domain and is redirecting all HTTP requests to apple.com/iphone.

Nothing to see here, move on.

BL.

[Michael CM1]

I'm sure somebody already mentioned this, but www.iphonenano.com gets redirected to www.apple.com/iphone...

Hmm?? :confused:

That domain was probably bought years ago. Domains cost maybe $10/year, so companies will (if they're smart) buy up similar names if for anything else to keep others from semi-stealing their thunder. How many hits do you think the previous owners of MLB.com got before Major League Baseball bought it?

So basically a domain name being taken means only someone (probably at Apple) bought it up so they didn't have to pony up hundreds of thousands later on to use that name. Yes, www.macbookair.com was bought up about a year ago, but I recall other similar domains being registered to Apple as well.

Speaking of all things domain, how much of a battle would be going for apple.com if Apple Corps was as big now as it was 40 years ago?

[plexdk]

This is clearly a fake.

Look at the "3G" logo.. It has the old design, from an older firmware.

Why would they show this, on a brand new iphone?

-Dave

[MikeMike2]

Take a look at these 2 ads: the phone in the eBay ad is obviously different... I think this video is in line w/ the specs of the case, even if the photo is a fake...

iPhone Nano:
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/atandt-iphone-3g-ebay-advertisement-commercial-2008/1881434342/?icid=VIDURVENT02

iPhone 3G

http://www.apple.com/iphone/gallery/ads/

[Mr. Giver '94]

People are so foolish, they get everything backwards. This picture is clearly a photo of the current iPhone (on the right) and the new iPhone Giga. Finally an iPhone made for a man.

:D:D:D:D Take a look at my MANLY iPhone!!!!

[RonMexico]

Take a look at these 2 ads: the phone in the eBay ad is obviously different... I think this video is in line w/ the specs of the case, even if the photo is a fake...

iPhone Nano:
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/atandt-iphone-3g-ebay-advertisement-commercial-2008/1881434342/?icid=VIDURVENT02

iPhone 3G

http://www.apple.com/iphone/gallery/ads/

the first video is squashed down or stretched sideway, making the phone and hand look shorter....the earth is not round and neither is the email bubble thing that has 9........

if u click on the video it takes u to the youtube page and u can actually see the video being stretched at the very beginning

[MikeMike2]

Yeah, maybe... It looked funny when i saw the ad on TV too though. Could've been the aspect ratio ...

[zarusoba]

Wow. Whoever did this image really knows how to use the Scale Tool. :rolleyes:

[cloud 9]

as the picture shows, the nano would have the same functionality as the iphone.

smaller form + same functionality would make it more expensive then the iphone.

=> fake

[Quillz]

I really do not get the point of an iPhone nano. Having the iPod nano makes a lot of sense, but the iPhone nano? Seriously? Just, why? You'd still have to have a contract, and all the nano would be doing is making the critical screen and touch keyboard smaller than they already are, as well as limiting space for games, photos and data.

[Mykbibby]

iPhone Nano = Epic Fail. Poor concept. Yes it will make money... a lot of money. But I see it as a step backwards from what Apple should be doing. The only way I could see this as being cool is if other carriers offer it, like Verizon. That would change things. Otherwise its a waste.

So MWSF will be like this according to the rumors:

1. Mac Mini Redesign
2. Snow Leopard (shipping Q1)
3. iPhone Nano

Hopefully we see an Apple TV redesign (http://9to5mac.com/Apple-TV-The-Recipe-for-Success) along with these things... if that comes, I will be a happy man.

[Mausse]

These Iphone-nano's will sell like hotcakes!!

I want one now! The current iphone is to big in my pocket.

Bring it on..the apple stocks will rise !!!!

[sjo]

I think apple would do well with a product aimed at those with tighter pocket books just as they do with the iPod bit I doubt this is the product. Back to basics scratch the gps, bluetooth, web and email, keep text, phone, ipod and the appstore apps for games and widgets @ 4 gigs $99 with contract and apple will sell a product to those of us that bought a phone almost 2 years ago and are up to renew a contract in june but cant justify a 3G iphone in the current economic state or have since realized the iphone was way more than we needed.


why lots of people assume this "nano" thing is going to cost less than the current one?? :rolleyes:

there're allready touchscreen cell phones that are smaller than iphone, and they are generally more expensive!

and apple isn't in the business of offering more features for smaller price than competitors folks!

so add a little on the those prices (both the device and the subscription), and you get somewhat realistic price point for "iphone nano".

[dombi]

The "large" iPhone is displaying English icons. The "nano" is displaying French, or Spanish, or something else... Weird.

[PowerFullMac]

The iPhone nano makes sense at the moment. There is a financial crisis, not a lot of people can afford flashy expensive gadgets like the iPhone 3G. People want the iPhone, but they cant afford it. This will fix that.

Also, everyone in my school thinks the iPhone is amazing but the price prevents them from purchasing it. If Apple want the youth market, this is how they should go about doing it.

HOWEVER, I dont think this photo is real. I mean, why is the App Store on there? The resolution on all the apps would be screwed!

[wizard]

as the picture shows, the nano would have the same functionality as the iphone.

Yep that is kind of the point. The features would either be the same or very similar. The core apps are useful on an even smaller IPhone.


smaller form + same functionality would make it more expensive then the iphone.

There is no reason to believe this at all. The smaller size can be easily enabled by higher integration hardware. If anything a smaller IPhone means much lower costs. I'm not sure why people continue to promote this error.

For example if Apple goes with a new ARM chip with the latest PowerVR hardware they can get rid of the current hardware video decoder. That is one chip easily removed from the mother board. Depending upon what they are up to with the triad of ARM, PA Semi and the PowerVR people one could expect the integration of more external circuitry. The potential is for a very small PC board. Moreso if they drop WiFi and the antennas for that. Even WiFi though might not be a problem if they implement IP for that inboard the main chip.

There is a more than reasonable chance that they can deliver the entire feature set of the current IPhone in a significantly cheaper andvmore reliable package. That package of course being smaller, possibly dramatically smaller if WiFi and GPS is deleted. The flip side is that the case can't get to small as there is a need for screen size, so maybe few features are deleted.


=> fake

Very possibly but it really doesn't matter. What this thread demonstrates is that the world is not one size fits all. Apple needs more models for the same reason RIM does. This is another thing that is surprising in this thread, that is the number of people that think Apple can stay in the game with one player. They can't.

In anyevent fake or not I don't see a sign that there is much of a difference in the designs to allow for creative marketing to address different markets. I believe Apple will come out with a Nano phone but this device will be more IPod Nano based than Touch based. Or a mix mash of the two interfaces. Apple already has patents for such cell phone approaches.

So fake or not more cell phones are coming from Apple. It is hard to escape that reality. I'm just waiting for IPhone Maxi, that is a check book size or slightly smaller smart phone.


Dave

[budkid]

Yeah but the keyboard is already small!

That is true!!! You will have to start using a stylus. Ahh!

[PowerFullMac]

Yeah but the keyboard is already small!

Landscape keyboard, much?

[Bonte]

Yeah but the keyboard is already small!

Japanese market wants it smaller and smaller and don't have any complexes about it, the women there have small hands and good sight.

[PowerFullMac]

Japanese market wants it smaller and smaller and don't have any complexes about it, the women there have small hands and good sight.

I saw a lot of them in the shops about two years ago. Funnily enough, that's the only place a saw them, but now I don't even see them there! :D

[theDave]

To just minimize the original and call it Nano..
What we see here is a Mini Me version of the iPhone, and Apple never Done this before. The iPod Nano is a completely different device then its big brother. even the MacBooks are different from their Pro versions. If such Nano version exists, It would look different. my be it will shrink to the sizes of the original screen, with no Margins...

[Simplicated]

I think it is fake. See there's no sleep button in the "iPhone nano", the poorly round edges and the wrong reflection of the front (you will find the home button space is shorter than the reflection one's). Seems it is just an iPhone 3G image downloaded from the Internet then photoshopped.

[talkingfuture]

Only just seen this, I hope they are fake because I'd like the nano to have a separate design identity to the other iPhone.

[RasmusM]

no one i know would want this smaller iphone. not even women with their dainty fingers.

Well, in Europe a lot of people laughed at the frenzy, when Steve Jobs presented the 1st generation iPhone. It's huge, clumsy and didn't even support the 3G we're used for years. The iPhone 3G took care of some of the worst things, but it's still an outdated phone, compared to what we've had for some time.

I'm a mac-user, and I love the concept of the iPhone GUI, but just didn't want to carry a brick around.

I welcome the idea of a smaller iPhone, though I don't believe these photos. The proportionatly smaller hole for the camera lens witnesses a Photoshop novice in action.

[sirbobbyuk]

There is no doubting that this could be another one of those must have phones, but it would depend on four things.

1. The price of the phone. if its below the £100 mark then apple will have to buy it own bank to keep the money.

2. The operator, currently there is just one in the UK and that O2. if it was open to other operators then option 1 plus another bank to store more of it income.

3. The software, since its a smaller screen there will be issues with the touch screen and firmware/software it may need to be modified to work within a smaller area this would prove a challenge to developers alike. And there is the interesting issue of people who have larger fingers having to work within a smaller area, how have they dealt with that If they have found a way around those mine fields then option 1 again and a third bank as back up for the second and first banks.

4.The memory, the iPhone 3g current comes in 8 and 16g what will the nano come in with and will apple announce an upping of the capacity to maybe 32 or even 64gb. this would mean the nano could have the 8 and 16gb place thereby giving the consumer more of a selection. And yes if this did happen then 1 and a couple of more banks.

Let see what happens in January. im keeping my wallet closed until then?;)

** This is a firth issue i have just thought of. If the iphone nano is to be produced and option 4 is the road that apple select, what will they do with their current iphone products... will they reduce to clear to make way for the nano?

once again more food for thought:rolleyes:

[InkMaster]

The "large" iPhone is displaying English icons. The "nano" is displaying French, or Spanish, or something else... Weird.

Not entire sure what/where you're seeing, but on both of them, its the same language...

[skunk]

Not entire sure what/where you're seeing, but on both of them, its the same language...No, he's partly right. On MR front page the "Nano" has French text below the icons, but so does the normal 3G.

[ditzy]

I've just thought of a reason why this is definitely not true. Steve Jobs is not doing macworld. If this was true he would be.

[LoganHunter]

We must not forget this: there are many people using a phone mainly for calls and text messaging and they would rather have a phone with less features.
The other day a coworker was telling me that the iPhone has many features he wouldn't use and it would be nice to have a more balanced model, less costy version with less features.
Apple might be doing a smaller phone for that kind of people. They could strip down Wifi, GPS, let the 3G stay, make a 4GB version. There are many phones like that nowadays and Apple might be seeking its share on a lower chunk of the market. A smaller screen size would be a problem, yes, on what concerns the apps but developers can make the necessary changes in order to get things working. Another nice step would be selling it with through carriers but also free of carriers (with a higher price) but that's what have been happening in my country since we have mobile phones around here.

[Schtumple]

Why does the resolution have to be smaller just because the screen is smaller?

There's been several newer phones come out that have the same form factor as the iPhone, but with 640 x 480 resolutions, surely, the screen would be the same resolution, if a tad smaller, then all the apps resolutions would be saved :)

[the vj]

The current iPhone keyboard is a disaster, imagine in a mini iPhone.

[Stratoukos]

Nah.. Here (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/472735) is the real thing. :D

[LoganHunter]

Nah.. Here (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/472735) is the real thing. :D

LOL! Funny!

[Schtumple]

The current iPhone keyboard is a disaster, imagine in a mini iPhone.

I get along with it just fine... Just because you've never used it for more than 5 minutes, and haven't got used to it, doesn't mean everyone else struggles...

[Stratoukos]

Just took a closer look on the photo. The iPhone has a resolution of 480:320 which gives us an aspect ratio of 3:2. However the iPhone nano in the photo has an aspect ratio close to 4:3 so there's no way this is real.

[Bodypainter]

you can clearly see that it is a fake because the camera hole is also smaller. some parts can not be made smaller and would have the similar size in a nano phone. i also think that the keyboard would not be working in that size, but apple could invent a standard landscape keyboard design instead as a standard input on such device.

however, i am still waiting for the new MAC BRICK which can be seen here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC6mEkKSouA

[raykhrud]

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2619/nanophoneyo9.jpg

[BenRoethig]

Why would Apple remove a source of income? The app store is a highly succesful innovated idea from Apple. Removing a source of income thus taking away a chance of making money doesnt make sense. I think Apple would have developers make 2 versions of the app rather than taken away their highly prize feature altogether.

By that logic the iPod touch should be the only iPod with a screen. However, the nano still exists. Some people don't want all those apps, they just want a device to call people and play their iTunes songs and movies, like a more modern version of Motos iTunes offerings. Also, unless Apple offers some kind of scaling tool in the developer kit, it might take as much or more effort to make a smaller touchscreen app than the original.

you can clearly see that it is a fake because the camera hole is also smaller. some parts can not be made smaller and would have the similar size in a nano phone. i also think that the keyboard would not be working in that size, but apple could invent a standard landscape keyboard design instead as a standard input on such device.

however, i am still waiting for the new MAC BRICK which can be seen here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC6mEkKSouA

It's a concept of what one might look like, not a spy photo of the actual device.

[big1ben]

I think this picture is fake...:mad:
All is written in French ( my language...)
And also the nano shoudn't have the 3G...

too bad

[Tallest Skil]

I think this picture is fake...:mad:
All is written in French ( my language...)
And also the nano shoudn't have the 3G...

too bad

It's OBVIOUSLY fake. We know it's fake. There won't be an iPhone nano.

[Snips]

There's no way Apple are going to provide the same functionality on a smaller screen.

If they used a higher dpi to achieve the same screen resolution (320 x 480), then all the buttons etc of current apps would be too small. Apple are very particular about this UI stuff. There's no way that Apps would be expected to 'just work' on a smaller screen - plus lots of fonts would become illegible.

Alternatively, they could change the screen size to, say, 160 x 320, but this would make existing Apps in the App Store incompatible.

As an App developer, I'm already getting people asking if iPhone Apps are compatible with the iPod Classic. Imagine the confusion if there were too slightly different iPhones?

Confusion would reign, and Apple's progress would be hampered.

Just not going to happen.

[DavidLeblond]

To think that Apple will stick with their 320x480 resolution forever and ever and ever is naive. Yeah, the current crop of apps wouldn't work with them... that is, until the devs update them. When you upload an app it asks you what device it is works with, this will simply be one more thing to pick. And good devs that used UIDevice instead of hard coding in the resolution won't have much of a problem at all. I think all of my apps will take very little retooling to fit onto a smaller screen.

That said, I still don't see the iPhone Nano as pictured working out. When the onscreen keyboard comes up you wouldn't be able to see any of the app! How could you type?

[happylittlemac]

What is all the fuss about, I think an iPhone Nano would be great, given the right specs and price. All this negitivity and people shouting "FAKE!" even though it's labeled as a concept. I guess the Apple fanboys are just sulking about their god 'Steve' not doing the keynote at Macworld, I look forward to seeing them throw their toys out of the pram next :rolleyes:

[BenRoethig]

It's OBVIOUSLY fake. We know it's fake. There won't be an iPhone nano.

How many times have people said that Apple won't ever do something only to have it show up at the next event?

[animenick65]

C'mon people, there won't be an iphone nano. Even if there was, how the heck could they offer it at a cheaper price? All the electronics would have to be shrunk down and in turn that would INCREASE the cost of the device. You still want the same functionality in a smaller package? Imagine the abysmal battery life on a device that small. Imagine trying to play half the games out there on a device that small. It's not practical.

[Hattig]

The current iPhone keyboard is a disaster, imagine in a mini iPhone.

Not if the keyboard works in the horizontal orientation in all situations - which is surely an OS-level alteration in the main (maybe some apps would need some logic alteration, but that will come with time and isn't an issue).

This mockup is clearly done so that we can see a few things (as it is done from the case designs):

1) The screen aspect ratio is different. Even assuming a higher DPI to achieve 320 pixels across, the height is more like 400 pixels rather than 480 pixels. Hence there are only 3 rows of icons. This will affect many apps on the app store, but I don't think it is a show stopper for releasing the device.

2) The smaller size will be appreciated in many markets - Asia in particular, but also in the teenage market in the west. Also, as it will be a cheaper device (and coupled with a cheaper tariff hopefully) many parents who would say "no" to the iPhone may say "yes" to the iPhone nano, so it opens up more of the market.

3) Apple is happy to make very similar phones, but not a standalone Mac between the Mini and the Pro. Just had to get that in...

4) I think it is a sensible plan for Apple. It might cannibalise some iPhone sales, but they can differentiate by memory capacity and features as well. It might even use different chipsets to achieve its aims (cost reduction, feature reduction, etc). I don't think that this will use anything from PA Semi, these things take time and that's a long term plan.

Apple don't want to screw this up, so expect it to be delayed or not announced in January if there are any potential show stoppers.

[Tallest Skil]

How many times have people said that Apple won't ever do something only to have it show up at the next event?

Well, in that case...

There won't be a MacTablet, there won't be a MacTablet, there won't be a MacTablet...

(note my sig)

[jdechko]

I think everyone has it wrong. It's not decreasing in size, it's increasing. The smaller one is the current iPhone The big one is the new Mac Tablet. ;):rolleyes:

[Doodledoo]

My four quibbles:

1. I don't believe the Home Button would be that much smaller and off-centre within its bezel.

2. It should be about the same thickness as its big brother - it still needs to have the same components, generally.

3. The Apple logo looks way too small and off-centre.

4. Why would it still have 8GB of storage? You'd think that it'd have 4GB or maybe even 2GB.

[babyj]

The issues with the screen size and app compatibility might not even be relevant to an iPhone Nano. The people it would be targeted wouldn't want or need the apps - they just want a small phone with sms, a camera and a media player. Which would mean a smaller and lower quality display and lower CPU requirements, add on dropping the memory to 4Gb, getting rid of Wifi and GPS and you'll have a smaller and cheaper phone.

I love my iPhone but I'd be very tempted to get an iPhone Nano as well for the times I don't want the bulk of the iPhone - a night out, the gym etc. The logic for an iPhone Nano is the same as for the iPod Nano and the iPod Shuffle - one size doesn't fit all.

[shaunymac]

I actually kinda like it. Granted the keyboard would be cramped when it comes up but I believe they could figure something out if this is to be true. As far as the size comparison goes, I would definately rather have the iphone "nano" in my pocket versus the original one. I can remeber getting used to carrying it around for the first few weeks thinking, "Wow, everyone around knows I have an iPhone in my pocket just because of the size."

As far as price goes, yeah, I dont care much about that one bit. I was one of the early ones who is still carrying around a real iPhone:D. If they can sell a big one for $150 sell the other for $100-$130 or so. I really dont think apple cares about encroaching on the product line too much. Ex. Macbook and macbook pro are identical now. Oh, lack of firewire, absurd, sorry.

[tyrnight]

Why is the Language not English on the screen. Am i the only one that has noticed that? :eek:

[gloss]

Why is the Language not English on the screen. Am i the only one that has noticed that? :eek:

French mockup.

[jjmiv]

here's my guess.

i'm sure someone already said this but i don't feel like reading through 311515 comments to check..

if this whole concept is put into production...my guess is that either the current iPod nano will become a "classic" model or see end-of-life. Then the iPhone Nano will probably be made into an iPod touch nano.

on top of that...regardless they keep the current ipod nano in classic form...its possible the iPod classic (120gb) will go away. which is fine with me as long as they eventually release an ipod touch with oodles of space!

i hope to see this by the end of next year as my iPod 20gb (w/click wheel) is starting to die....if i'm stuck..i would just get the classic as I prefer size over screen....hehe

[jeffmorr]

Does anyone notice that the iPhones are being used in FRENCH, so i doubt this is from Apple

[ready2switch]

Forgive me, I haven't read everyone's responses.

While I agree that the picture itself is likely not real, the concept could very well be.

Some have argued that it would be too small to be useable, keyboard would be useless for typing, etc. Have any of you tried to type on some of the "smart" phones out there? The ones that have 2 letters per tiny button? I would argue that, with some practice, a scaled-down iPhone keyboard would be very usable.

Some have also argued that many key "smart phone" features, such as internet and email capabilities, would be lost in a form factor this small. My question is why? I have a small flip phone, the actual body of which is much smaller and thinner than this device would be, and it has these capabilities. Some people don't need the full "smart phone" experience (the work-from-your-phone experience). Why is it so incredible that there could be something less than a business-class smart phone on the market?

I think many of the responses have forgotten what a "concept" design really is. Just because it's not a "real" photo of what may be released doesn't mean the idea doesn't have merit and even possibility. I certainly wouldn't want an iPhone with the dimensions of my iPod Nano, but a slightly smaller form-factor for the iPhone would be welcomed by many, I believe.

[Rychiar]

a device as pictured would be utterly unusable. think about how small that is, u couldnt even hold it it to talk on let alone have anything on the screen be usable:rolleyes:

[soundsgoodtome]

Yeah but the keyboard is already small!

Open your mind.... Smaller phone? Landscape keyboard in all apps.

[iMacoo7]

Forgive me, I haven't read everyone's responses.

While I agree that the picture itself is likely not real, the concept could very well be.

Some have argued that it would be too small to be useable, keyboard would be useless for typing, etc. Have any of you tried to type on some of the "smart" phones out there? The ones that have 2 letters per tiny button? I would argue that, with some practice, a scaled-down iPhone keyboard would be very usable.

Some have also argued that many key "smart phone" features, such as internet and email capabilities, would be lost in a form factor this small. My question is why? I have a small flip phone, the actual body of which is much smaller and thinner than this device would be, and it has these capabilities. Some people don't need the full "smart phone" experience (the work-from-your-phone experience). Why is it so incredible that there could be something less than a business-class smart phone on the market?

I think many of the responses have forgotten what a "concept" design really is. Just because it's not a "real" photo of what may be released doesn't mean the idea doesn't have merit and even possibility. I certainly wouldn't want an iPhone with the dimensions of my iPod Nano, but a slightly smaller form-factor for the iPhone would be welcomed by many, I believe.
After reading most of the "I dont think there will be a nano iphone,no way etc..." This comment stood out. I totally agree with your points on this one.
This might be the replacement iphone , meaning this past year they just updated the iphone and started shipping the iphone 3G to other countries in recent months.
In order not to piss of the millions of new subscribers-They produce a smaller product at a cheaper price point.
Which would sell like hot cakes.I think Apple is going to ride the 3G model out until next year.By this time next year the LTE network will be making more waves than a little bit and Apple will want to have the technology already pre-amped for the next 4G iPhone.
So this nano iPhone concept does make perfect sense and seems as if it will gear towards people with a smaller pocket to purchase one.As many complain about the size and price.There are allot of people that want or would like a 2.5 screen or a 3" screen.
I usually just read the comments but figured I would post as this is a feasible picture concept if you ask me.

[trendkiller]

The photo is obviously a fake but I quite like the idea of an iphone nano. Hopefully it will be a tad cheaper than the current iphone which is a rip off (£349 to get it on pay and go!).

As for people saying it's never going to happen, what about when the first rumors of an ipod nano were circulating, I bet the majority of people didn't think they should make an ipod nano, but they did, and it's successful - everyone wants gadgets smaller these day and the iphone is a bit too bulky, so there is a market for it!

roll on iphone nano!

[liptonlover]

There's no way it's happening. There's already two devices for developers to target in the same market. Why add a third, especially with such obvious drastic differences? Targeting things like the microphone and gps are ok, but a different screen size and potentially resolution causes lots of problems. Also, the nano is simply a different type of device. It would be like making a shuffle nano, aka a smaller nano in addition to the current one and doing away with the shuffle. The nano and iphone are different types of devices both in functionality and how they are used, they shouldn't be merged.

And for the record, those images would take about 5 minutes to fake :D

[Shasterball]

what features would be missing from the nano compared to the normal?

Usable screen...

[FF_productions]

Apple please don't make a nano iPhone. AT&T is the sole reason why iPhone isn't being purchased (don't get me wrong iPhone is popular, but not everybody is willing to pay the price of the PLAN or switch plans to get it.)

They can make iPhone free and still you will get kicked in the balls for the plan, it's all about the plan people.

[idocapple]

Interesting :cool:... Both the iPhone and the iPhone Nano show menu names in French.
Horloge = Clock
Bourse = Stocks
Plans = Maps
Appareil Photo = Camera etc. etc.

[jfox00]

Apple's new slogan:

Half the battery.
Twice the difficulty using the virtual keyboard.

[TheSlush]

Not happening! They'd have to redesign and reconfigure the whole touch interface for the new size. As would all the developers with wares in the App store!

I understand, but this issue is not merely a matter of pixels and screen dpi. It's also a matter of finger ergonomics and usability. With what you're suggesting, the entire interface would scale smaller, as-is. That would result in much physically smaller touch buttons, keyboard keys, input fields, app interactive graphic elements, etc etc etc. Many applications and games would likely be rendered unusable at such a scale! The keyboard would become very challenging! Your finger precision would have to get a heck of a lot better! Apple is not going to risk usability/ergonomic nightmares by scaling down the entire interface, which I'm sure they designed and configured very carefully to maximize ease-of-use with average hand and finger sizes.

Eh, you clearly don't know what your are talking about.

That said, the device would be TOO small to be effective as a phone, were taling Tamagotchi here guys...

Clearly, your superior tone makes my ignorance apparent your wisdom and experience obvious! Thanks for straightening me out there. :rolleyes:

But like me, you too are an interactive designer. So I'll bite.... Tell me, o Wise Condescending One, exactly how an "iPhone nano" interface could scale itself down -- while avoiding a complete interface redesign -- and still be a successfully functional touch interface as-is.

Not possible.

[macmtnman]

Hmm, maybe the photo is correct, but the rumor is the wrong one. Perhaps a larger iphone. Seems to make more sense.

[Roessnakhan]

Hmm, maybe the photo is correct, but the rumor is the wrong one. Perhaps a larger iphone. Seems to make more sense.

If anything Apple strays away from making things bigger.

[Manderby]

Still I call this concept an "ugly dwarf". Here's my thoughts about an iPhone Nano concept which I actually would buy:

Make it half the thickness of the current iPhone. I keep my phone in the pocket and its not the size what matters (don't get me wrong :) ) but the thickness. Make it slimmy-slim-slim.

Keep the height, but lower the width. Not inverse! It's better for voice quality, it's better to hold in your hand, it simply looks better.

Make it entirely non-plastic. The 200$ price drop of the iPhone has introduced a cheap plastic look. There's nothing more elegant than a metallic feel.

Make it contract-free. Why? Because I pay money for something to own, not for subscription fees like in 2-years-contracts. Do you remember this from anywhere?

Everything else: whatever, I don't really care. Conclusion: I would buy an iPhone nano if it looks like a jewel, one I adore, one I like to use, to hold in my hand, to not feel ashamed when pressing it to my ear.

But I don't think, this would be an iPhone anymore, so... I stay with mine.

[macmtnman]

If anything Apple strays away from making things bigger.

True....Take Steve for example.

[Roessnakhan]

True....Take Steve for example.

Ouch, but I admit that I laughed. :p

[jfox00]

True....Take Steve for example.

Not sure i get you. Apple should be making Steve bigger? Or Apple should not be? What does that even mean?

Someone just laughed. Please explain!

[macthetiger85]

Take a look at the back, it has no "Nano" word written on it.

Its a fake again....:rolleyes:

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/5844/nanoow7.th.jpg (http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/5844/nanoow7.jpg)

The new nanos don't have "nano" written on them.

[macmtnman]

Mostly the persistent rumors for a new model iphone seem to be based on the fundamental belief that the phone is too expensive. The primary cost of the phone is driven by the service contract. There are many multi 100s of dollar phones on the market that noone is concerned about as too expensive because they are subsidized by mobile providers to the point they are effectively free. The only reason for the high price of the iphone is that its extreme improvement in functionality has driven the market demand to a point that both the hardware maker and provider can charge a premium for it. That position will slowly erode naturally as competitors come into the market from the hardware and service side. Introduction of a nano just hastens that erosion in my opinion. Apple would be better served to introduce a version that tries to prolong the competitive position by better leveraging the advantages of the iphone over other mobile phone technology, not the reverse.

[macmtnman]

Not sure i get you. Apple should be making Steve bigger? Or Apple should not be? What does that even mean?

Someone just laughed. Please explain!

Perhaps if Steve ate candied apples....

[dagger01]

Apple sells one smartphone, and it sells well, but what if apple wanted to make more money and make a cell phone for all non-smartphone people to have. Not a $200 phone that comes laced with a data plan contract of $70 a month but a $100-200 phone that makes calls and messages and plays music and has wifi. They would blow into the cell phone market just like the original ipod.

Ok, here I get back to the business aspects of such a product. The margins on the iPhone and the iPods are relatively low. Sure, if they made an iPhone nano it *MIGHT* sell like hot cakes and they could make things up in volume like they do now with the iPods and iPhone. But, does Apple want another low margin product on the market in a downward spiraling economy? Uhhh, gut tells me no. For the same reason they are wary of the netbook and tablet markets. There isn't enough money to be made to offset the R&D costs. Hell, the iPhone is subsidized as it is! I don't know what the margin numbers are for your average, everyday cell phone, but I imagine they are not very large.

And yes, according to IDC and others (see here: http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/business/appleaday/blog/2008/12/iphone_market_share_growing_de.html) the iPhone has achieved a significant amount of market share in the smartphone market since its introduction a little over 18 months ago.

I still don't think this iPhone nano is a real product. I could be wrong, and maybe I will be, but if I am my stock goes up anyway. :D

[raytube]

All this talk of the iPhone Nano is a smokescreen, the new product will be the iPhone Shuffle!

Read more here: http://suburbia.org.uk/blog/2008/12/23/124550.html

http://suburbia.org.uk/media/images/iphone-shuffle-small.jpg

[PowerFullMac]

"Do not eat iPhone Shuffle"

LOL :D

[lamar777]

why lots of people assume this "nano" thing is going to cost less than the current one?? :rolleyes:.

You seem to have forgotten that 99$ for the consumer is not 99$ for apple AT&T subsidizes the iPhone and would do the same for a nano version so would likely bring in more cake than the 149$ price of the ipod nano. And people will still buy the ipod nano because they don't want a contract. Roll your eyes a little farther back and access some brain

[glitchy]

The clock times on the two are identical.

It would be understandable if they were similar models, however since that is not the case it is odd that they have the same clock times. At least they did not scale the logos too much as they look fairly similar in size but a tad off on the fake Nano. If there is going to be a Nano then I cannot justify the real-estate consumed by the upper and lower portions of the Nano phone either because it's not an engineering path that Apple would follow.

[PowerFullMac]

The clock times on the two are identical.

It would be understandable if they were similar models, however since that is not the case it is odd that they have the same clock times. At least they did not scale the logos too much as they look fairly similar in size but a tad off on the fake Nano. If there is going to be a Nano then I cannot justify the real-estate consumed by the upper and lower portions of the Nano phone either because it's not an engineering path that Apple would follow.

They are not in different time zones :rolleyes:

[glitchy]

They are not in different time zones :rolleyes:

I have 2 iphones here and they have 2 different times. This is common with all mobile/cellular devices because of how they sync the time. So, in conclusion the two devices having the same exact accuracy to the minute is not likely. The more likely case here is that the left was used as a slate for the right image.

edit: Also you need to consider that two photos aren't normally taken "at the exact same time", thus further building on this being false for time discrepancy.

update: All iPhone and iPod Touch devices on apple.com have the time "9:42AM", even the french site("09:42"). The images seem to be ripped from http://www.apple.com/fr/iphone/gallery/#image3 and then altered.

Anyway it's fake, but good to dream!

[PowerFullMac]

I have 2 iphones here and they have 2 different times. This is common with all mobile/cellular devices because of how they sync the time. So, in conclusion the two devices having the same exact accuracy to the minute is not likely. The more likely case here is that the left was used as a slate for the right image.

edit: Also you need to consider that two photos aren't normally taken "at the exact same time", thus further building on this being false for time discrepancy.

Anyway it's fake, but good to dream!

If this is real (and I'm not saying it is) then it's obviously a marketing thing, and they are never real photos anyway, therefore it's entirly possible that a real marketing image would have two devices showing the same time.

[glitchy]

If this is real (and I'm not saying it is) then it's obviously a marketing thing, and they are never real photos anyway, therefore it's entirly possible that a real marketing image would have two devices showing the same time.

Read my update one post up.

[Ivan P]

The new nanos don't have "nano" written on them.

Exactly. If this product ever happens to be released (I personally doubt it), "nano", if anything, would only be prominent on the box - much like how the full name of the iPod model (iPod shuffle, iPod nano, iPod classic, iPod touch, etc) is used on the box, yet the back of the devices themselves only ever say 'iPod'.

[PowerFullMac]

Read my update one post up.

If it's a real Apple image then sure it, too, would have the 9:42 time like all the other ones do... And it does.

I personally don't think it's real but you can't use the time thing as evidence for that.

[uv23]

The iPhone is too big, plain and simple. I guess if you want to use it for the internet, but that's what my laptop is for. I'd be all over a properly sized iPhone, that's as small as many of the other offerings currently available from other manufacturers, while still holding all my music (32GB is a must).

[glitchy]

If it's a real Apple image then sure it, too, would have the 9:42 time like all the other ones do... And it does.

I personally don't think it's real but you can't use the time thing as evidence for that.

Sorry, the images are "the same", it's that simple. Compare the details of every angle including icon layout, back stamps, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc..

http://www.apple.com/fr/iphone/gallery/

[PowerFullMac]

Sorry, the images are "the same", it's that simple. Compare the details of every angle including icon layout, back stamps, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc..

http://www.apple.com/fr/iphone/gallery/

I never said that it was real, I agree it was faked, I was just saying that the time thing is not sufficient evidence.

[powers74]

In response to an analysts question of Apple needing to make more variations of the iPhone:

“From everything I’ve heard, Babe Ruth only had one home run, and he kept hitting it over and over.”

-Steve Jobs, October 2008

Yyyyeeeaah. Classic Steve non-answer. That ****** could mean anything.

[k2spitfire88]

Not sure i get you. Apple should be making Steve bigger? Or Apple should not be? What does that even mean?

Someone just laughed. Please explain!

Basically, when Steve comes out and gives presentations, everyone questions his health, because he keeps getting skinnier and skinnier, or smaller and smaller. Understanding that makes the joke work.

[bobfitz14]

That is completely irrelevant. The nano held 8GB, and the classic held 80 or 160GB. What's the iPhone nano going to have going for it?

"Ooh! It's a tiny-screened iPhone with the same amount of storage, and it probably won't be much cheaper! How exciting!"

Or as Chelsea Handler would say, "What... a whirlwind."

i disagree. who said this "rumor" iPhone would have the same amount of storage as the current iPhone and therefore be the same price?

oh...and happy holidays.

[espo369]

I mean I want to believe that this is just a rumor but, considering the company which releases the cases. It definatly could be true. Although I don't enjoy this idea, it could be true.:(

[puffnstuff]

If it is real it is going to be a seeing is believing type deal

Kinda like the rumor with the glass trackpad for the macbooks. Nobody thought that made sense until it came out.

[Fifty311]

Ok, a while back I heard of apple to start selling $100 iPhones in walmart. This completely agrees with that rumor. I also heard that a stylus pen was in the works. That would solve the tiny screen problem. I also agree that it could just be a phone and email server, not a Internet interface.
So this does have some credibility, but I'm personally hoping for a touch screen tablet.

[Roessnakhan]

A stylus is totally against the original idea of the iPhone, I can't see that happening.

[meakaboo]

It's too small, may be slippery of my hand

[xDYLANx]

Ok, a while back I heard of apple to start selling $100 iPhones in walmart. This completely agrees with that rumor. I also heard that a stylus pen was in the works. That would solve the tiny screen problem. I also agree that it could just be a phone and email server, not a Internet interface.
So this does have some credibility, but I'm personally hoping for a touch screen tablet.

there's a 3rd party stylus that work pretty well for most things. but like someone else said, the stylus goes against the original idea for the iPhone

[scootaru]

Even if all of the pictures are fakes, this kind of buzz has to be getting the attention of somebody at Apple. We'll see a Nano someday.

[onehoop]

It seems to me that the primary advantage of an iPhone Nano would be if they could offer it through another carrier. Since they want to continue with the world market it would have to be a GSM device, which would limit said selection to T-Mobile.

It would be pretty ironic if people ended up jail-breaking iPhone Nanos to work with AT&T. Anyway, offering it on a different network would allow them to structure the plans differently than for the current iPhones, although aside from the GPS I'm not sure why it would be any lower. It's not as though people will talk or email less on a smaller device. Agreed, however, that it does not make much sense to worry about the difference between $197 and $99 when you'll end up spending $1799 on monthly charges!

If they can make the phone work (landscape-only mode?) then I would be interested in a smaller iPhone. I've been able to resist the urge to buy an iPhone so far because of the vast difference in the price plans between what I'm paying for my Blackberry Pearl with Sprint and the iPhone price plans. Although I'll probably bite the bullet once they add cut and paste to the iPhone. I just can't bring myself to pay more for what is essentially a toy. In the meantime, I consider the smaller form factor and significantly reduced weight of the Pearl to be significant advantages, so I fit the profile of someone who is interested in an iPhone nano.


M@

[kastenbrust]

I've got a touch screen mobile which has a screen only 1/2 the size of the iphone and i've got no problem emailing, texting and internet browsing with my thumb/fingers, so the whole stylus thing is basically stupid.

[iphonesarecool]

I found all these on the internet.

[Tallest Skil]

I found all these on the internet.

The first two are Chinese ripoffs, the third is a ridiculous square, the fourth goes against the foundation of the iPhone (Insane. What is this, 1880? I'm not using a rotary touchscreen!), and I don't understand half of the perspectives on the last one.

[iphonesarecool]

More designs.

Some look ok, I know there not real but I thought it would be good to post them so everyone can see them.

[Tallest Skil]

More designs.

Some look ok, I know there not real but I thought it would be good to post them so everyone can see them.

The iPhone nano with JUST Calendar is priceless.

But they'd sell it for $299.

[MacAlpha]

More designs.

Some look ok, I know there not real but I thought it would be good to post them so everyone can see them.

I gotta get me one of those iPhone Shuffles... LOL

[powers74]

More designs.

Some look ok, I know there not real but I thought it would be good to post them so everyone can see them.

That all Aluminum one is HoooOTT! I want iPhone to go back to metal. Reception, I know, I know; black plastic apple on the back?

[k2spitfire88]

The iPhone nano with JUST Calendar is priceless.

But they'd sell it for $299.

with a $200 a month plan...:p

[Krafty]

with a $200 a month plan...:p

And people would buy it...

[r23w]

haven't read through the all of the replies yet but the layout of the home screen of the nano doesn't make sense, because the app store and itunes are not on the first page, which they should be, as a marketing feature for apple. also between the last row and the dock, theres too much space there, compared to the real iphone.

[k2spitfire88]

haven't read through the all of the replies yet but the layout of the home screen of the nano doesn't make sense, because the app store and itunes are not on the first page, which they should be, as a marketing feature for apple. also between the last row and the dock, theres too much space there, compared to the real iphone.

it's a fake mockup/concept photo, whatever you want to call it, so it's pretty much guaranteed they screwed up somewhere.

[Tallest Skil]

haven't read through the all of the replies yet but the layout of the home screen of the nano doesn't make sense, because the app store and itunes are not on the first page, which they should be, as a marketing feature for apple. also between the last row and the dock, theres too much space there, compared to the real iphone.

Seeing as an iPhone nano wouldn't have the same resolution as a real iPhone, the App Store wouldn't even work on it, so the mockupists doesn't need to worry about including it in their mockups.

[puffnstuff]

I still do not get the point in an iphone nano and if there is an iphone nano will there be a touch nano?

[geister]

What is so difficult to understand? It's a simple concept people:
It will simply be marketed toward people looking for a BEAUTIFUL, BALANCED MOBILE PHONE WITH A GREAT UI. (Apps and extensive web surfing are irrelevent, just as they are with a Sony Ericsson, Motorola, etc). For a typical advanced mobile phone with built in ipod, the size is perfect. Certainly better than most handsets currently on the market.
End of story.

[brendanspah764]

SO let say this iPhone nano is the real deal, even though i doubt it. I say the iPhone 3G will be upgraded when this iPhone nano is released. So...

iPhone Nano: EDGE, colors black white and RED) hi-res screen (same as 3G, but a smaller screen) 2.0 megapixel camera, 4GB, 8GB, thinnner by not much, a lot better battery life

iPhone 3G: 3G obviously, black white RED, same screen, 3.2 megapixel camera, 8GB 16GB 32GB, no change in size, and improved battery life

[omegaphil6]

Apple will continue to upgrade the iphone in the June-July months. It only makes sense. No Replacement for the iphone at Macworld January. Speed bump MAYBE but not a NEW model per say. Iphone Nano would be a sidegrade so i could see that happening.

[Srai-W]

It might be ok for younger kids if price is low enough and an app for parent's iPhone to track them at all times. They have small fingers mostly too so size is fine. Might be a huge market there.

Actually that wouldn't be a bad idea... I could get one for my son and I am sure he would love it...

Oh - only one problem - no iPhone Nano... yet!!! ;)