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miklagio777
Dec 23, 2008, 12:16 AM
Hello,

As soon as the new iMacs are released I plan on getting one along with vmware fusion to operate windows for the couple windows apps I need.

whatever type of processors the new iMacs will have I plan to get the second best along with at least 4 gb of RAM.

I have both an xp and vista install disk so what do you all think would be best?



Hawkeye411
Dec 23, 2008, 12:19 AM
One vote for XP here :)

alexbates
Dec 23, 2008, 12:21 AM
XP! If you get Vista, it will eat your RAM like crazy. I think of XP as the most stable Windows operating system (or the only good one).

If you have the time, wait for Windows 7 that could be coming out soon. It is supposed to only require half of the RAM as Vista and should be much more stable.

miklagio777
Dec 23, 2008, 12:30 AM
thanx, I was also leaning towards XP myself but figured some other opinions couldnt hurt.

Surely
Dec 23, 2008, 12:32 AM
What about Mojave? It looks so good in the commercials...... :D

Arcadie
Dec 23, 2008, 01:33 AM
What about Mojave? It looks so good in the commercials...... :D

Every one knows Mojave > Vista > XP....

BTW i got a vista laptop.. i dont know how to explain it but it dosnt "Feel" as stable as XP. Even nothing on me has crashed yet (ive also only used it to surf the net so far) it feels fragile like i can easily break it... idk hard to explain..

4np
Dec 23, 2008, 01:35 AM
Every one knows Mojave > Vista > XP....

Didn't you notice the :D ? :)

Surely
Dec 23, 2008, 02:00 AM
Every one knows Mojave > Vista > XP....


Um, Mojave is Vista.


/Whoosh.

Hellhammer
Dec 23, 2008, 05:15 AM
XP! If you get Vista, it will eat your RAM like crazy. I think of XP as the most stable Windows operating system (or the only good one).

If you have the time, wait for Windows 7 that could be coming out soon. It is supposed to only require half of the RAM as Vista and should be much more stable.

Don't wait for windows 7. It will have many problems when it is released and I'm quite sure that it is coming late, maybe 2010

sporadicMotion
Dec 23, 2008, 05:38 AM
One vote for XP here :)

I'll second that.

naid
Dec 23, 2008, 07:33 AM
XP, and try to phase out those Windows apps.

yoppie
Dec 23, 2008, 07:51 AM
I run XP so that's what will get my vote.

SnakeD77
Dec 23, 2008, 08:03 AM
I run XP. So, my vote is XP! It works better than the "V" word!

dXTC
Dec 23, 2008, 08:30 AM
I run XP. So, my vote is XP! It works better than the "V" word!

BZZZZZT! :D

I'll add my one vote to XP; it's what I run for the occasional after-hours remote login for my work, and for Cakewalk SONAR. If Cakewalk ever decides to port to Mac, I'll ditch XP entirely.

mastershakess
Dec 23, 2008, 09:01 AM
XP: If you want to run windows programs
Vista: If you feel like dealing with issues

Xorro
Dec 23, 2008, 09:04 AM
I'm giving up on Vista, too many problems with the auto updates... (on my PC)

XP would seem sensible and as others have said the most stable.

mcpryon2
Dec 23, 2008, 11:00 AM
Um, Mojave is Vista.


/Whoosh.


Thanks for clearing that up. Man, we all look like idiots now!

sangosimo
Dec 23, 2008, 11:07 AM
xp for 32bit and vista for 64bit. pretty simple to me.

Cory5412
Dec 23, 2008, 11:15 AM
I don't have any problems at all with Vista on my ThinkPad, but that system has 3 gigs of ram, and I take care of it on ocassion. I see pretty massive issues with Vista inside a vmware machine though, it really needs more ram than most people are willing to give to a virtual machine, so its performance suffers.

If it's going to be a boot camp partition you use mostly through vmware, or a straight-up vmware machine, I recommend XP. If you're going to do bootcamp and boot the hardware into it most or all of the time, there's no real reason not to put Vista on there, if you spend a few minutes each week or month maintaining it.

cg165
Dec 23, 2008, 12:23 PM
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xp for 32bit and vista for 64bit. pretty simple to me.

Yeah, if you have 4gb of ram or more get vista 64 bit. I'm willing to bet most who have posted a vote for xp haven't tried vista 64 bit. That's not to say all, but at least a good bit. If you have new hardware and want to take advantage of it, get the latest software.

SnowLeopard2008
Dec 23, 2008, 12:58 PM
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Yeah, if you have 4gb of ram or more get vista 64 bit. I'm willing to bet most who have posted a vote for xp haven't tried vista 64 bit. That's not to say all, but at least a good bit. If you have new hardware and want to take advantage of it, get the latest software.

On Boot Camp, Vista 64-bit. But on Fusion? No. Vista is complete fail. Stick with XP.

mastershakess
Dec 23, 2008, 01:12 PM
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Yeah, if you have 4gb of ram or more get vista 64 bit. I'm willing to bet most who have posted a vote for xp haven't tried vista 64 bit. That's not to say all, but at least a good bit. If you have new hardware and want to take advantage of it, get the latest software.

And what programs/software do you use that are 64bit anyway?

Hellhammer
Dec 23, 2008, 04:45 PM
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Yeah, if you have 4gb of ram or more get vista 64 bit. I'm willing to bet most who have posted a vote for xp haven't tried vista 64 bit. That's not to say all, but at least a good bit. If you have new hardware and want to take advantage of it, get the latest software.

If you have over 3gb you'll need 64 bit. The problem with 64 bit is that there are lots of programms that are not suitable for 64 bit, only 32 bit. 64 bit only if you do gaming and you need over 3gbs of ram.

icrash
Dec 23, 2008, 05:43 PM
Hi everyone..,

any tips for proper installing Vista x64 on a MBP 2.33 GHz (MacBookPro 2,2) ?

because of missing drivers I can't get:
- keyboard (backlight, Volume level etc.)
- trackpad (right click, double finger scrolling etc.)
- bluetooth
- front row not tested

to work...

everything else

- display
- GigE Adapter
- Wireless Adapter

works fine...

any help is appreciated...
thanks!

sorry...wrong thread...just realized that my question has nothing to do with this thread topic....now to the topic of this thread:

I would go with vista...it's the latest one and every new stuff is likely to come for vista first. You can consider to use the 64bit version, but this depends on the driver support for your hw (some SW will also not run on x64 windows versions)...
just m2c

jamin100
Dec 23, 2008, 05:46 PM
TinyXP here with all the windows cr4p taken out already :)

jbernie
Dec 23, 2008, 06:22 PM
I have XP on my work machine, Vista 64 on mt workstation and Vista 32 on my home laptop. With the 4GB of ram you can make use of all 4GB with Vista 64 but no major loss if you only run Vista 32.

Depending on your Windows abilities, I would say XP is the simpliest of the two and generally less memory intensive, Vista isn't the worst thing in the world unlike what you may otherwise here but the nagging prompts asking you to approve changes do get old.

If everything you intend to install works with XP then stick with that. At some point you would probably consider Windows 7, improved memory usage and smaller potential footprint might be desirable.

Either way, I suggest you download the latest service pack for which ever OS you decide to go with and install that ASAP after the install so it will reduce the number of patches you need to download/install. I think on a fresh XP install with no SPs you will probably go through 4 or 5 reboots.

cg165
Dec 23, 2008, 09:05 PM
And what programs/software do you use that are 64bit anyway?

I only use vista for games. Technically, all of them take advantage of it since without 64 bit you can't use more than 3.2gb RAM I believe. If you have newer hardware, why would you opt to run older software? Why not keep on using Tiger instead of Leopard? Vista does have some nice features, looks better and if you're going to use Vista and have 4gb ram, it doesn't really make any sense to get the 32 bit version. 64 bit also runs 32 bit programs, and more and more programs are going 64 bit so it makes sense (at least to me it does).

cg165
Dec 23, 2008, 09:08 PM
On Boot Camp, Vista 64-bit. But on Fusion? No. Vista is complete fail. Stick with XP.

Ah, I haven't tried Fusion at all. That's bad to know though because I planned on running either Fusion or Parallels. I'll have to look into this to see which is better.

cg165
Dec 23, 2008, 09:16 PM
I have XP on my work machine, Vista 64 on mt workstation and Vista 32 on my home laptop. With the 4GB of ram you can make use of all 4GB with Vista 64 but no major loss if you only run Vista 32.

Depending on your Windows abilities, I would say XP is the simpliest of the two and generally less memory intensive, Vista isn't the worst thing in the world unlike what you may otherwise here but the nagging prompts asking you to approve changes do get old.

If everything you intend to install works with XP then stick with that. At some point you would probably consider Windows 7, improved memory usage and smaller potential footprint might be desirable.

Either way, I suggest you download the latest service pack for which ever OS you decide to go with and install that ASAP after the install so it will reduce the number of patches you need to download/install. I think on a fresh XP install with no SPs you will probably go through 4 or 5 reboots.

Lots of people bring up the vista footprint issue compared to xp. Back in 2001, I bought a VAIO desktop which had a 60GB hard drive in it (also 4200RPM HD). Back then vista would have been a big deal if it took up 10gb of space. Now I've got a notebook (unibody MBP) and it has a 320gb hard drive (7200rpm). 10gb is nothing in comparison (in my opinion). By the time I run out of space, I'll probably have a TB in here. I know they're up to 500GB for notebooks already so it won't be long.

The same can be said for memory. Sure, vista takes up more memory but look how much memory is standard now. I've got 4gb ram that came with my computer, and I used to have 1gb in my vaio in 2001. It's all relative to what you've got.

I do agree though, if you're happy with XP then stick with it. It all depends on what you want to do with it. If you run all really old programs then stick with XP. If you want to run newer programs, go with vista. I just want the OP and anyone else wondering about this to have all of the facts.

Cask
Dec 23, 2008, 09:31 PM
Don't wait for windows 7. It will have many problems when it is released and I'm quite sure that it is coming late, maybe 2010

Have ever SEEN or USED Windows 7 in order to make that assumption?? I am using it as a dual boot with an XP machine, and it is MUCH better than Vista in every aspect. You should use stuff before making such assumptions. And most people that use it and know about it think it might actually be out SOONER than expected, not later.

SteveMobs
Dec 23, 2008, 11:37 PM
Xp

frogger2020
Dec 24, 2008, 04:04 PM
I had to go with Vista. For some reason, in XP, the wireless Broadcom drivers in Bootcamp do not work for my aluminum MBP. I suspect there is some incompatibility between the DLink router and the drivers.