More iPhone Nano Case Design Photos

[MacRumors]

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http://images.macrumors.com/article/2008/12/23/122844-nanocase_425.jpg

For completeness sake, we should report that XSKN has now posted (http://xskn.com/default.aspx?m=Products&sid=294&cid=1) the entire series of iPhone Nano cases for sale. Again, we have our doubts about the release of an iPhone Nano, yet it's hard to deny that the two previous case designs that were posted on XSKN did accurately predict upcoming products.

As with previous product shots, the actual iPhone graphics shown within the case are simply existing iPhone promotional shots and do not necessarily represent what the iPhone Nano interface would look like.

Article Link: More iPhone Nano Case Design Photos (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/12/23/more-iphone-nano-case-design-photos/)

[Shasterball]

Can't wait to type on a pinhead sized key!

[crisss1205]

http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/12/23/more-iphone-nano-case-design-photos/)


http://images.macrumors.com/article/2008/12/23/122844-nanocase_425.jpg

For completeness sake, we should report that XSKN has now posted (http://xskn.com/default.aspx?m=Products&sid=294&cid=1) the entire series of iPhone Nano cases for sale. Again, we have our doubts about the release of an iPhone Nano, yet it's hard to deny that the two previous case designs that were posted on XSKN did accurately predict upcoming products.

As with previous product shots, the actual iPhone graphics shown within the case are simply existing iPhone promotional shots and do not necessarily represent what the iPhone Nano interface would look like.

Article Link: More iPhone Nano Case Design Photos (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/12/23/more-iphone-nano-case-design-photos/)

In the picture with what looks like the "Urbanspoon" application you can see the old 3G icon and not the new one.
EDIT: And the view of the side of the phone you can see the aluminum Mac Silver of the original iPhone (with the black silent ringer switch)

[twoodcc]

at first i really didn't think the iphone nano was coming, and i still really don't. but with more and more rumors, it just might be released. i'm guessing it will be $99?

i mean, i would like to see this device released. but i think i'd rather see a netbook device that runs iphone apps

[Yr Blues]

That mocked up screen is crap. I'm betting it's a landscape only phone, 'cos then then keyboard would actually work well.

[viniciusc]

I just don't get the concept behind an "iPhone Nano". The iPod Nano is a smaller iPod because it uses flash drives instead of an hardrive. Considering the iPhone is alredy flash-based, how could they use any smaller storage? Shuffle-class drives? I doubt anyone would be satisfied with a 1/2GB iPhone.
What about the screen? All the apps available out there are made to fit in a 3.5" screen. If they were going to put a smaller one, it would have to be like 220dpi, which would make text and buttons unusably small, not suitable for a touchscreen.
I still don't get it.

[arn]

In the picture with what looks like the "Urbanspoon" application you can see the old 3G icon and not the new one.
EDIT: And the view of the side of the phone you can see the aluminum Mac Silver of the original iPhone (with the black silent ringer switch)

it's not like they actually have an iphone nano. the screenshots and switches etc... are all photoshopped in

If they do have prerelease info, all it is is the dimensions of the product in order to make a case.

arn

[dvdhsu]

Can't wait to type on a pinhead sized key!
Me too!
Sooner are later, scammers are going to start selling styluses for the iPhone Nano on eBay.
You buy it, and then realize that the iPhone's touch screen doesn't work with it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/100-LOT-WHOLESALE-STYLUS-PEN-FOR-iPHONE-iPOD-TOUCH_W0QQitemZ170289049550QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item170289049550&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A16%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

Anyways, I'm kinda surprised that the design looks like a mini iPhone.

[gkarris]

Can't wait to type on a pinhead sized key!

Yes, tell me about it - that's why I went from a small HTC Windows Mobile with tiny keys to an iPhone in the first place.
at first i really didn't think the iphone nano was coming, and i still really don't. but with more and more rumors, it just might be released. i'm guessing it will be $99?

i mean, i would like to see this device released. but i think i'd rather see a netbook device that runs iphone apps

Well, that explains the 4Gig iPhone refurbs for $149 - I think the Nano will be 4Gig for $99 subsidized. It'll go 8 Gigs when the regular iPhone capacities are upgraded.

That mocked up screen is crap. I'm betting it's a landscape only phone, 'cos then then keyboard would actually work well.

I would imagine certain apps, like SMS, would have to be modified to work in landscape for the iPhone Nano, and then they would implement "landscape mode" for the regular iPhone as well. :)

[dvdhsu]

it's not like they actually have an iphone nano. the screenshots and switches etc... are all photoshopped in

If they do have prerelease info, all it is is the dimensions of the product in order to make a case.

arn

True, but they do have a nice track record.

[emulator]

it's not like they actually have an iphone nano. the screenshots and switches etc... are all photoshopped in
from the quality, it's rather paintbrushed!

[nickspohn]

Fake. Headphone jack is what out of proportion.

[tbishh]

botex.


An iPhone nano would be really dumb if it was the same design as the iPhone 3g, just smaller(which is completely unnecessary because the iPhone is already small enough), and I don't see Apple doing that. If ANYTHING..Apple will come out with some crazy small ipod touch, but I don't see that either.

[Bodhi395]

If Apple releases an iphone nano I think it will be one of its biggest mistakes. I don't see the need for it, and think it would be unusable due to its small size. I was looking at my iphone and trying to figure out why anyone would want one any smaller, you couldn't type easily or see much. Also, the price savings I wouldn't imagine being very much, maybe $100. Why would you buy an unnaturally small iphone nano that has to be crippled in other ways too, just to save a $100, it wouldn't be worth it. If these rumors turn out true, Apple might be on the downslide of their recent success. I'm hoping they are not.

[dr_lha]

I just don't get the concept behind an "iPhone Nano".
Simple: The Japanese market. The current iPhone is too big for it.

[gtg660w]

If apple rolls out an iphone nano, do you think they would also roll out an ipod touch nano as well in the future??

[kornyboy]

Wirelessly posted (iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 2_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.18.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.1 Mobile/5G77 Safari/525.20)

Cases for sale. That makes things interesting now doesn't it. I still have my doubts.

[gkarris]

If apple rolls out an iphone nano, do you think they would also roll out an ipod touch nano as well in the future??

More a touchscreen/hard drive based Classic... :)

I still don't get it - a "budget" iPhone Nano, but high-priced iPhone 3G Wireless plans? :eek:

[Ping Guo]

The iPhone Nano is real, I held one. Only it isn't made by Apple, rather some Chinese bootleggers. I've seen them in the markets here in Shanghai and in Mongkok in HK, when I was purchasing my factory-unlocked 3g iPhone.;)

http://www.uberphones.com/2008/11/others/iphone_nano_from_china/
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/iphone-nano/iphone-nano-or-cheap-chinese-knockoff-316078.php?mail2=true

[ItsVictorB]

What i find funny is all these people who are so opposed to an Iphone Nano. Most of you already have an Iphone, so what does it matter if an Iphone Nano is released? Don't complain about typing on a pinhole keyboard when you already have an Iphone, or have the option of buying one instead of the nano. The point is that you people are angry that something new is coming out and you no longer have the latest Apple phone. To add to that it will be less expensive and more easily accessible to the masses which again makes you upset because now everyone and their mom will have an Apple phone. Apple is in the business of making money, and a smaller less expensive phone will only make them more.

[freeny]

I love it when everybody jumps in on how horrible a design is based on rumors, then 3 weeks later when it actually comes out, all of the sudden its "fantastic" :rolleyes:

[gkarris]

What i find funny is all these people who are so opposed to an Iphone Nano. Most of you already have an Iphone, so what does it matter if an Iphone Nano is released? Don't complain about typing on a pinhole keyboard when you already have an Iphone, or have the option of buying one instead of the nano. The point is that you people are angry that something new is coming out and you no longer have the latest Apple phone. To add to that it will be less expensive and more easily accessible to the masses which again makes you upset because now everyone and their mom will have an Apple phone. Apple is in the business of making money, and a smaller less expensive phone will only make them more.

I guess people are trying to figure out "what the point" is - why not just drop the price of the current one? Why a whole other eco-structure of cases, app compatibility, etc?

As I've been saying, if this is only going to help AT&T more (rather then sell it unlocked, and compatible with many different networks), why not spend the extra $100 (or even $49 with a price drop) if you're already spending $100/month on your cellular bill? :eek:

[stevodotorg]

and how in the world can anyone expect to type on such a small device? .. I call it fake, I get this feeling apple is getting smarter and leaking out fake information.

[freeny]

I guess people are trying to figure out "what the point" is - why not just drop the price of the current one? Why a whole other eco-structure of cases, app compatibility, etc?

As I've been saying, if this is only going to help AT&T more (rather then sell it unlocked, and compatible with many different networks), why not spend the extra $100 (or even $49 with a price drop) if you're already spending $100/month on your cellular bill? :eek:

The "nano" version could be dropping things like GPS, storage space etc.. each allowing for smaller designs. Remember, this would be an iPhone lite with less features... this could even be an Edge device...

As far as the typing area, the screen looks like it would be only about 10% smaller so the touch area would only decrease a few pixels. there may also be some advancements in the touch technology making the screen more sensitive.
Think tech forward... dont get locked in the status quo...

[gkarris]

The "nano" version could be dropping things like GPS, storage space etc.. each allowing for smaller designs. Remember, this would be an iPhone lite with less features...

I'm hoping Apple & AT&T are going to suprise us - optional data plan, and $49 with a contact... :D

[The Man]

I don't get it. Presumably making the iPhone smaller, but retaining all of the functions of the bigger one, makes it cheaper? How does shrinking the screen but keeping the screen resolution of the regular iPhone make the iPhone nano any cheaper to make? Okay, it could have just 4GB of RAM, but they can just do that with a regular iPhone as well. The differentiation between products would be solely based on size? If anything, the iPhone nano would be more expensive, because they have to cram more features in a tinier package. They could of course dump the WiFi, but that's just a few cents shaving off manufacturing costs. Also note that the iPod nano has about a tenth of the storage space of the iPod Classic. iPhone nano and iPhone 3G differentiation wouldn't be on size, clearly, but it would be based on 3G versus EDGE. An iPhone for everyone. But how would one type on such a small screen?

iPhone nano: EDGE
iPhone 3G: 3G

[diamond.g]

I love it when everybody jumps in on how horrible a design is based on rumors, then 3 weeks later when it actually comes out, all of the sudden its "fantastic" :rolleyes:

That is par for the course. :D

[nfl46]

I really do think there are going to be iPhone Nanos. So many people are doubting it, but I think its true!

And I agree with "Freeny". As soon as its released, I hope someone bring these topics up and silence the doubters. Everyone should have seen this coming anyway!

[dontwalkhand]

If apple rolls out an iphone nano, do you think they would also roll out an ipod touch nano as well in the future??

If anything, I would say the current nano as it is (iPod) days are numbered, and the iPhone nano/iPod Touch nano would be in the same family, and iPod Touch/iPhone 3G are in the same family. As for the iPod classic, who knows?, The clickwheel is fading away fast.

[iOrlando]

yeah i think its true too.

didnt this site get it right with previous ipod nano and ipod touche case releases?


i expect though maybe a slightly different interface...that will be the surprise...

and what if the main interface of the regular iphone is upgraded? like new apps are included in the factory setting and will be installed via firmware update and the old or "current" interface will be the nano

[eastcoastsurfer]

Has anyone thought that maybe it's the new ipod nano? Basically adding touch to the nano line.

[mdodd]

I'm hoping Apple & AT&T are going to suprise us - optional data plan, and $49 with a contact... :D

I'm hoping these rumors will die.

[solSYST-M]

What i find funny is all these people who are so opposed to an Iphone Nano. Most of you already have an Iphone, so what does it matter if an Iphone Nano is released? Don't complain about typing on a pinhole keyboard when you already have an Iphone, or have the option of buying one instead of the nano. The point is that you people are angry that something new is coming out and you no longer have the latest Apple phone. To add to that it will be less expensive and more easily accessible to the masses which again makes you upset because now everyone and their mom will have an Apple phone. Apple is in the business of making money, and a smaller less expensive phone will only make them more.

Discussing the stupidity of a concept and complaining are two different things. I suggest staying out of the forums if you don't want to read peoples opinions.

[gkarris]

I'm hoping these rumors will die.

That means a site like this won't have a purpose to exist anymore.. ;)

[Daremo]

Has anyone thought that maybe it's the new ipod nano? Basically adding touch to the nano line.

I don't see that happening, as the case image has a camera on the back.

[Kilamite]

Has anyone thought that maybe it's the new ipod nano? Basically adding touch to the nano line.

Good thinking.

[gdeusthewhizkid]

hey man curious ..


how do u like time capsule. does it work well.. can you pm me. I would like to get it but i wanna make sure it's a good investment..

[MrCrowbar]

Problem:
Too small to type like on the regular iPhone.
Solution:
Keyboard is landscape. You can see a bit less of the SMS conversations though.

Problem:
iPhone nano would cannibalize iPhone 3G sales.
Solution:
Cripple the iPhone nano. Remove WIFI, 3G, Safari and all the advanced apps.

Problem:
How do you make it affordable?
Solution:
Less memory (start at 4GB), less accessories, no 3D graphics, no accelerometer.

Problem:
Everybody has an iPhone already
Solution:
Make a prepaid option so teenagers and people with criminal records can get them, too. Just pop in your favorite provider's SIM card.


I personally don't like contracts and wouldn't get any cell phone with a contract. Prepaid is cheaper for my usage anyway.

[nfl46]

Has anyone thought that maybe it's the new ipod nano? Basically adding touch to the nano line.

Interesting. Could be.

[nfl46]

Problem:
Too small to type like on the regular iPhone.
Solution:
Keyboard is landscape. You can see a bit less of the SMS conversations though.


It seems to be around the same size as the HTC Touch, and the typing on it wasn't that bad! The iPhone is bigger than most touch screen devices out there, anyway. So there's room for a smaller iPhone device.

[alexbates]

Looks like another fake...

[Airforcekid]

:apple:Why would they sell it? It has to be coming out our they look like complete idiots!:apple: Still it does feel like a longshot!

[dave-dave]

i doubt it. wouldn't all the app developers have to remake or redesign their apps to work? Would all the apps that have customized keyboards in them have to be resized? From a developer stand point it would just cause way more confusion. You might have people trying to download iphone nano only versions and some people trying to download iphone 3g versions that aren't compatible with an "iphone nano". If it does come out, they'd better make a special restricted store for it.

[Airforcekid]

If Apple releases an iphone nano I think it will be one of its biggest mistakes. I don't see the need for it, and think it would be unusable due to its small size. I was looking at my iphone and trying to figure out why anyone would want one any smaller, you couldn't type easily or see much. Also, the price savings I wouldn't imagine being very much, maybe $100. Why would you buy an unnaturally small iphone nano that has to be crippled in other ways too, just to save a $100, it wouldn't be worth it. If these rumors turn out true, Apple might be on the downslide of their recent success. I'm hoping they are not.

:apple:The regular phone would still be avalible its like the razr v3 and the v270 they were the same in software but look wise made their prices different and both did good. This would be a good move for Apple in my opinion.:apple:

[Airforcekid]

i doubt it. wouldn't all the app developers have to remake or redesign their apps to work? Would all the apps that have customized keyboards in them have to be resized? From a developer stand point it would just cause way more confusion. You might have people trying to download iphone nano only versions and some people trying to download iphone 3g versions that aren't compatible with an "iphone nano". If it does come out, they'd better make a special restricted store for it.
:apple:The app store probley wouldnt be on it. It would be for a simple user!:apple:

[macidiot]

Me too!
Sooner are later, scammers are going to start selling styluses for the iPhone Nano on eBay.
You buy it, and then realize that the iPhone's touch screen doesn't work with it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/100-LOT-WHOLESALE-STYLUS-PEN-FOR-iPHONE-iPOD-TOUCH_W0QQitemZ170289049550QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item170289049550&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A16%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

Anyways, I'm kinda surprised that the design looks like a mini iPhone.

They already make a stylus for the iPhone. And it works:

http://www.thinkgeek.com/electronics/cell-phone/a31f/

[ryanw]

I just don't get the concept behind an "iPhone Nano". The iPod Nano is a smaller iPod because it uses flash drives instead of an hardrive. Considering the iPhone is alredy flash-based, how could they use any smaller storage? Shuffle-class drives? I doubt anyone would be satisfied with a 1/2GB iPhone.
What about the screen? All the apps available out there are made to fit in a 3.5" screen. If they were going to put a smaller one, it would have to be like 220dpi, which would make text and buttons unusably small, not suitable for a touchscreen.
I still don't get it.

True, the OS is about 2GB alone.. Doesn't leave much room for apps + music.

[rumz]

A) Everyone saying there's no point to an iPhone nano... wake up. There's always been a trend towards making things smaller, and there's no reason why they couldn't create another class of phone (as others have suggested, scale back some of the features, etc).

B) Here's my one thought for why I'd like to see an "iPhone Nano". I'm one of the few who thinks AT&T rate plans are ridiculous and will not change carriers just for an iPhone. I don't know the details of AT&T's exclusivity agreement, but if Apple were to introduce a separate, different model that doesn't fall under that specific agreement, they could make it an EVDO / CDMA phone for Verizon / Sprint networks-- further market penetration for Apple.

The rumors may be totally bogus... but I do wish Apple had a device available on other carriers besides AT&T.

[fluffy]

Me too!
Sooner are later, scammers are going to start selling styluses for the iPhone Nano on eBay.
You buy it, and then realize that the iPhone's touch screen doesn't work with it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/100-LOT-WHOLESALE-STYLUS-PEN-FOR-iPHONE-iPOD-TOUCH_W0QQitemZ170289049550QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item170289049550&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A16%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
While traditional plastic or metal styluses don't work with the capacitive screen, there actually are styluses which do work with it (by mimicking the capacitance of human skin), which is useful for accessibility and so on. I have no idea if that's the case with those ones you linked to, though.

[edit] Oops, didn't see macidiot's post above.

[macidiot]

and how in the world can anyone expect to type on such a small device? .. I call it fake, I get this feeling apple is getting smarter and leaking out fake information.

If the screen is higher resolution, you could have the same real estate in a smaller space. Or, if just some of the blank, unused space around the top and bottom of the iPhone are removed, basically making the front all screen, you have a smaller phone with exactly the same screen as the current iPhone.

[iReality85]

Here's my one thought for why I'd like to see an "iPhone Nano". I'm one of the few who thinks AT&T rate plans are ridiculous and will not change carriers just for an iPhone. I don't know the details of AT&T's exclusivity agreement, but if Apple were to introduce a separate, different model that doesn't fall under that specific agreement, they could make it an EVDO / CDMA phone for Verizon / Sprint networks-- further market penetration for Apple.

My sentiments exactly. If this product is real, who ever said its for AT&T? Since its technically a new product, new negotiations and deals with a carrier would have to be made. It may go to Sprint or Verizon (I think Verizon would be more likely). That, and just like the iPhone, the iPhone Nano may not be seen until the June timeframe because of prep.

[drummerlondonw3]

What i find funny is all these people who are so opposed to an Iphone Nano. Most of you already have an Iphone, so what does it matter if an Iphone Nano is released? Don't complain about typing on a pinhole keyboard when you already have an Iphone, or have the option of buying one instead of the nano. The point is that you people are angry that something new is coming out and you no longer have the latest Apple phone. To add to that it will be less expensive and more easily accessible to the masses which again makes you upset because now everyone and their mom will have an Apple phone. Apple is in the business of making money, and a smaller less expensive phone will only make them more.

Discussing the stupidity of a concept and complaining are two different things. I suggest staying out of the forums if you don't want to read peoples opinions.

Couldn't agree more solSYST - I really thought the tone of the first post was very negative and not at all why I enjoy coming to macrumors

now back to the point...I really don't see the iphone nano happening, as has already been mentioned I can see the idea of a touch nano happening, personally I am waiting for a 10" tablet for at home

D:apple:

[solSYST-M]

If the screen is higher resolution, you could have the same real estate in a smaller space. Or, if just some of the blank, unused space around the top and bottom of the iPhone are removed, basically making the front all screen, you have a smaller phone with exactly the same screen as the current iPhone.

This would potentially address the issue of Apps rendering correctly. It doesn't however address the issue of peoples finger size in relation to the screen size. Higher resolution means either more detailed images of the same visual size, or same images reduced in visual size to meet the new PPI.

[currentinterest]

My wife has not wanted an iPhone though she has had ample opportunity to see how they work, there are 3 in our family, until I mentioned the iPhone Nano rumor to her. She immediately exclaimed, "Now, that I would get." If true, they will sell millions and millions of them.

Also, as has been mentioned earlier, a landscape keyboard will solve any problem with key size.

[ItsVictorB]

Discussing the stupidity of a concept and complaining are two different things. I suggest staying out of the forums if you don't want to read peoples opinions.

First of all, i'm sorry if i offended anyone, it didn't come out the way i wanted it to.

Second, an Iphone nano would not be stupid. Like others have stated, it would obviously have to be crippled in it's features so that it wouldn't cannibalize 3g sales. It would just allow Apple to dominate the cell phone manufacturing market to a certain extent. Think of all the people who would jump on this because they can't afford a 3G. It may very well be an Ipod touch nano, but if they made a nano phone then more power to them.

[Dwight Schrute]

I'd comment on the prospects of an iPhone Nano, but I'm too busy designing a man-purse for your 10" netbook. :rolleyes:

[gugy]

I don't mind the iPhone nano. I just wished AT&T has an option to have the data plan optional.
For some folks that want the phone and the functionality of wi-fi for internet, the additional $30 p/month is a deal breaker.

[bacaramac]

iPhone Nano? I just don't see it, but love seeing new products and the creativity behind them.

I am going with the poster that said maybe the screen is not changing and the phone is just getting a lot shorter.

Who knows, I think Apple will surprise us with whatever they launch. Although I still hate the new iPod Nano look and love the old fatty much better.

[pocketrockets]

Why is the majority opposed to an iPhone Nano? Is it because most of you bought an iPhone for a ridiculously high price and would be flaming jealous? My god, you're a bunch of cry babies.

[Admonitor]

A phone without 3G? Pretty much every good phone made in the last few years has 3G, at least in Europe.

[powers74]

My wife has not wanted an iPhone though she has had ample opportunity to see how they work, there are 3 in our family, until I mentioned the iPhone Nano rumor to her. She immediately exclaimed, "Now, that I would get." If true, they will sell millions and millions of them.

Also, as has been mentioned earlier, a landscape keyboard will solve any problem with key size.

My wife said the same thing. Even the 3 iPhone family thing.

As I have said before tho, I don't really care if Apple is making this thing or not 'cause I would never buy one, at least if it's crippled. Plus I want the iPhone to go to an Al enclosure like everything else. I don't care if it has to have a little black patch for signal. Besides it just demonstrates Apples care of fit and finish.

[mixel]

Surely if it’s the same resolution just smaller, rather than having Qwerty when in portrait it'll have an on screen number pad..?

You'd text on it like every other phone without a keyboard? tapping each number a few times to cycle through letters.

It's not like that would cripple it's usefulness as a phone, it wouldn’t be aiming for the smart-phone market.. In landscape QWERTY would still be slightly painful but probably doable. :)

Not sure if i think this thing exists or not though, haha.

[joemama]

:apple:Why would they sell it? It has to be coming out our they look like complete idiots!:apple: Still it does feel like a longshot!

I don't know how many times this can be repeated: IF Apple comes out with an iPhone Nano it is SOLELY to get by the ATT agreement.

The more phones you put in people's hands, the more APPS Apple will sell. This new phone is designed to do just that - sell apps, be a phone, and work with other providers.

[nahedh]

Nothing makes sense any more!!! :eek:
*splode*

What's next? Shuffle Touch anyone?

[RTiii320]

It looks like a cheapy version, however I am sure it will sell like hotcakes.

I honestly hope this does not happen.

[aaarrrgggh]

:apple:The app store [sic] probley wouldnt be on it. It would be for a simple user!:apple:

While that makes a lot of sense logistically, it would be uncharacteristic for Apple to cut off users from another revenue stream. GPS could easily go, a camera would make sense (if Apple doesn't get money from MMS), maybe require people to buy a headset to use the phone... those would all be characteristic Apple moves, but hard to make work logistically.

I would think Apple would do much better to offer whatever nano phone they make unlocked, as the service is clearly the real cost.

[Chiefthinker]

I don't know how many times this can be repeated: IF Apple comes out with an iPhone Nano it is SOLELY to get by the ATT agreement.

The more phones you put in people's hands, the more APPS Apple will sell. This new phone is designed to do just that - sell apps, be a phone, and work with other providers.

WORD! This could be HUGE if offered on other providers.

[WPB2]

hey man curious ..


how do u like time capsule. does it work well.. can you pm me. I would like to get it but i wanna make sure it's a good investment..

I think were talking about an iPhone nano, not a TimeCapsule, where have you been shheesh

[Kwill]

Has anyone thought that maybe it's the new ipod nano? Basically adding touch to the nano line.

That would make more (but not complete) sense. What is skewing acceptance is the name "iPhone Nano." The iPod Touch also requires a keyboard for email and Web browsing. Is there a market for a Touch sans Safari, email, notes, and calendar? (Maybe the smaller model would eliminate the App Store and rely solely on third-party apps.)

Apple better release this thing soon! The distance between my ear and my mouth is shrinking fast! ;)

[iMacmatician]

i mean, i would like to see this device released. but i think i'd rather see a netbook device that runs iphone appsI'm with you on this one. I'm still hoping every day for a mini-tablet (or whatever it will be) rumor.

I just did a quick and dirty analysis of the picture, and (assuming equal camera hole sizes) it looks like the regular iPhone's display is about 1.8x the size of the iPhone nano's. That would make the iPhone nano's display around 2.6".

[acfusion29]

Maybe Apple sent them false dimensions for what they did before so that company loses money on producing fake skins for something that will never be released. :rolleyes: It's possbile... The company has no right to leak information like this.

[Detlev_73]

My sentiments exactly. If this product is real, who ever said its for AT&T? Since its technically a new product, new negotiations and deals with a carrier would have to be made. It may go to Sprint or Verizon (I think Verizon would be more likely). That, and just like the iPhone, the iPhone Nano may not be seen until the June timeframe because of prep.

I've thought for a little while about what the benefits of Apple having a phone sold and operated by two competitors (AT&T and Verizon) would be, but cannot come up with an idea as to why this would benefit Apple. Anyone want to throw around some ideas to illustrate? I've never been a capitalist, so I cannot think in the cut-throat way that most companies think; capitalism is, after all, a broken economic system.

[Sam Symons Live]

The iPhone nano has already been revealed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ1bGYMudv0).

[irun5k]

Interesting. Could be.

It is very possible that this is a new iPod Nano. I think the glorious clickwheel is on its way out. It was great for its time, but someone (Gizmodo?) recently posted a diagram of how complex the menu structure is on the present day iPods. It is getting difficult to navigate.

Also, didn't Jobs say that eventually all iPods would transition to OS X? Maybe I'm making that up, but I thought I heard it several months ago.

However, it is unclear whether the iPhone SDK would be fully supported the way it is on the Touch. Even Apple's built in apps wouldn't map over well to a smaller form factor.

Eventually, something has to happen. The Touch is great but it is just too big for a lot of people. Folks have gotten used to working out, jogging, etc. with something the size of the Nano. And the new Nano is too long, IMHO. Trim the clickwheel and increase the screen size slightly and you have a winner.

[nateco]

I can't believe you guys have missed this.

iPhone nano would a basic phone plus iPod.

Kids can't afford an iPhone, but they all have regular cell phones....all it needs is a text app and the phone app coupled to the touch based iPod.


50 bucks on a contract with a boat load of texts included, every high school kid across the country would by one.



iPhone nano will not be a smart phone...just a way for people to replace their iPod and phone in one device.

[xenotaku]

The current iphone has a small enough screen. This rumor is either fake, or stupid on Apple's part. I don't care if its cheap as hell, its unusable with a screen that small. People with normal sized fingers can barely type on the iPhone as it is.

[irun5k]

I can't believe you guys have missed this.
iPhone nano will not be a smart phone...just a way for people to replace their iPod and phone in one device.

How much does it take to be considered a smart phone? Keep in mind the existing Nano has an address book, calendar, games, photo album, and video playback. Of course, all these are completely different versions from the SDK based apps on the iPhone/Touch. So the line is blurry.

But, I'm not sure why everyone thinks Apple will just shrink the existing virtual keyboard. Or, why everyone thinks it will even have a keyboard.

[gugy]

I can't believe you guys have missed this.

iPhone nano would a basic phone plus iPod.

Kids can't afford an iPhone, but they all have regular cell phones....all it needs is a text app and the phone app coupled to the touch based iPod.


50 bucks on a contract with a boat load of texts included, every high school kid across the country would by one.



iPhone nano will not be a smart phone...just a way for people to replace their iPod and phone in one device.

I agreed,
I would buy one for my wife in a heartbeat. She doesn't need the web capabilities.

[xhambonex]

what i can't believe is how many people on this site CAN'T believe this rumor. I am sure that apple can figure out a way for this all to make sense they always do. I think the people saying it would be the basic phone/ipod are the closet to what it can be. I don't see it being an internet phone like the iphone if this rumor is true, but people saying it can't be done screen to small blah blah, if they have been able to simplify an ENTIRE OS in functionality, I doubt the keyboard would be tough, I imagine a simple numeric input like normal phones will work with big enough buttons

[fobfob]

iPhone nano will not be a smart phone...just a way for people to replace their iPod and phone in one device.

Exactly. To distill the various comments made so far, my argument would be the following:

1. The Classic (& clickwheel) is out. Too big and bulky, not enough functionality compared to similarly sized/priced touch. The killer app is lots of storage. But most people have learnt how to manage playlists such that they don't require to carry around their entire collection all the time. In addition, the ubiquity of USB tiny flash drives has lessened the need for a any hard drive storage facility (did anyone ever use that?)

2. iPod Nano is the biggest selling ipod. The form factor is good, product is still seen as hip, but sales are on the downturn too. Why? Limited functionality compared to your phone that you *must* carry anyway. Even non-smart phones can play mp3, take photos etc etc. The itunes ecosystem may well be sustaining the ipod sales (a reverse of the original situation?) for the moment due to vendor lockin.

3. touch and iphone are cool. But they're too masculine physically for the majority of the addressable market. They're bulky, monolithic and wide. Classy, yes. But the market for classy chic is now saturated. The real latent market is the less well heeled who want an itunes capable device, want to be part of the apple owner's club. Currently they have to buy in ipod nano because that's the cheapest that makes sense. But it seems rather old fashioned compared to the iphone/touch. And they still have to carry an additional phone (which cost them nothing on a plan) that is increasingly feature rich (if not :apple:)

Enter the iphone nano. Obviously it's an ipod. It's small and sexy like a nano. It doesn't intimidate. It's cute. It's an entry level touch screen. But, due to smaller screen size issues (done to death in previous posts), and also to eliminate cannibalisation of touch/iphone, no AppStore. It's NOT compatible with iphone platform. Software is customised versions of phone app, sms, ipod etc built on the same OS. Of course it will be 3G (for Japan/Europe), but with no apps, no need for wifi or GPS. However, it *may* have a custom version of the Itunes Store.

The iphone nano acts as an introduction to the iphone world the same way that ipod was to mac. You trade up once you've had a taste of the touchscreen goodness. Perhaps at the moment, the leap is too great for those still in clickwheel land.

It's exactly the product Apple needs (apart from a fix for the laughable 24" LED display that can only be used by 3 models, and new mini ;)

[nateco]

How much does it take to be considered a smart phone? Keep in mind the existing Nano has an address book, calendar, games, photo album, and video playback. Of course, all these are completely different versions from the SDK based apps on the iPhone/Touch. So the line is blurry.

But, I'm not sure why everyone thinks Apple will just shrink the existing virtual keyboard. Or, why everyone thinks it will even have a keyboard.



The difference would be no Internet or anything web related, that means no data cost in the contract...lots of people just have regular phones.

For the keyboard..landscape would work, all it would be for is texting... They could even use t9.

[xhambonex]

it may not even have a full keyboard, i have an nV2 and I rarely use my qwerty keyboard because i am much faster with t9 and the numeric buttons on the front

[fobfob]

But, due to smaller screen size issues (done to death in previous posts), and also to eliminate cannibalisation of touch/iphone, no AppStore.

Sorry to quote myself, but I just realised that of course the iphone nano will cannibalise sales from iphone (although not touch). But it's "good" cannibalisation because you are only shifting sales for people who didn't really want the extra features/cost etc of the full iphone. So they were going to begrudgingly buy the iphone. Sure your margin will be higher by selling them iphones in the short term, but these are the grumblers. The ones that will complain about any thing they don't quite like. They feel led by fashion and the itunes lockin. The negative word of mouth means they are not the best ambassadors for the product. The ones who use the majority of the iphone features don't grumble and more or less forgive its shortcomings.

The customised offer will make happier customers which will mean more customers. Apple's challenge is to ensure profits now that they are dealing in the mainstream cutthroat world of commodity phones. This is a gutsy move, and the beginning of the real phone war for Apple.

Folks, if real, this product is a really big deal for Apple. This shakes to the core (sorry) the whole ipod/iphone world that now makes up so much of the company's business. It pits the brand, if not the company right up against the heavyweights of the phone industry. If successful, it could make the Apple the new Nokia, and the Mac business would seem like a hobby in comparison.

[Srai-W]

I love it when everybody jumps in on how horrible a design is based on rumors, then 3 weeks later when it actually comes out, all of the sudden its "fantastic" :rolleyes:

Maybe it's human nature. I remember years back my friends and I didn't like the latest cars that were to be released... but then after a few months it is like "wow, so cool". Either way if they are releasing iphone nanos, updating the mac mini, new imacs maybe a netmacbook, then I say it is great. :cool: Of course we have to see which ones are actually true, but you gotta think what two out of four perhaps? Maybe even three out of four? As long as :apple: are reasonably aggressive pricing wise (perhaps not likely) given the current economic climate, I think it will be a good year 2009... :p

[rumz]

I honestly hope this does not happen.
Why? Because you wouldn't like it? I mean really, what would be SO horrible about it? Will the world end?

[rumz]

I've thought for a little while about what the benefits of Apple having a phone sold and operated by two competitors (AT&T and Verizon) would be, but cannot come up with an idea as to why this would benefit Apple. Anyone want to throw around some ideas to illustrate? I've never been a capitalist, so I cannot think in the cut-throat way that most companies think; capitalism is, after all, a broken economic system.
I'm not sure what benefit Apple was able to get from making the iPhone exclusive-- perhaps it was a way to get AT&T to pitch in what was necessary to make the back-end work (visual voice mail and what not) (I was originally led to believe that Apple getting a cut of the monthly subscriber fees for iPhone users was what turned off other cell phone providers that Apple approached-- I don't know, but Apple doesn't get a portion of subscriber fees from iPhone 3g customers now). The benefit to AT&T is obvious-- anyone in the U.S. who wants an iPhone (aside from those willing to pay exorbitant amounts to get unlocked versions from overseas, etc) has to sign up with AT&T if they're not already with them. They also have to sign up for a relatively expensive data plan.

But how can you NOT see the benefit to Apple of having a wider distribution channel and increased market to sell to? There are a host of people who will not switch to AT&T but might otherwise snap up an iPhone.

[jackfrost123]

I love it when everybody jumps in on how horrible a design is based on rumors, then 3 weeks later when it actually comes out, all of the sudden its "fantastic" :rolleyes:

Ha, ha, so true, ipod nano, "so fugly", "apple would never release a curved screen" and then "wow"!!!!!!!

[rockosmodurnlif]

I can't believe you guys have missed this.

iPhone nano would a basic phone plus iPod.

Kids can't afford an iPhone, but they all have regular cell phones....all it needs is a text app and the phone app coupled to the touch based iPod.


50 bucks on a contract with a boat load of texts included, every high school kid across the country would by one.



iPhone nano will not be a smart phone...just a way for people to replace their iPod and phone in one device.
No they wouldn't.

The texting sucks.
Half of the already tiny screen is gone with the keypad.
No MMS.
No forwarding.

The pricing sucks.
T-Mobile's Sidekick plan is $55/month and has unlimited everything (with AIM messaging).

If the kids want an iPhone so bad, they'll just get a jailbroken first gen.

[japanime]

Simple: The Japanese market. The current iPhone is too big for it.

Huh?

My Softbank iPhone is half the size of my DoCoMo flip-phone (and just about every other flip-phone on the Japanese market.)

I'll be the first to acknowledge that the iPhone doesn't do all the things that most other cell phones in Japan can do (bar-code scanning, one-seg TV, Suica wallet, etc.). But I certainly don't think the size of the iPhone is a problem here.

[jackfrost123]

my 2 cents.

I dont have a problem with the launching a nano, I DO HAVE a problem with them launchig a nano looking exactly like a shrunk iphone, which looks exactly like the ipod touch...and then we have that hole aluminum black glass thing (except the air) going for all the pc line...this is excuse my french sh..it.

Especially with the phones, we boys with our high tec expensive iphones are going to be looking like major clows if apple flood the market concrurrently with essentially the same design (which btw is groing old too...truth be told) in different names and configurations...If apple wanna be nokia like a friend says (and I have no issue with that I am an apple fan boy I like apple doing well :cool: ), btw at the worst period of projected sales for mobile operators, all downsizing drastically as has been in the news recently, but If the want to do it fine, or even great. JUST FRIGGIN DESIGN A COUPLE OF MORE MODELS SO WE DONT HAVE THAT IPHONE, IPOD TOUCH, IPHONE NANO ALL LOOKALIKE PARODY. Sure minimalism is good, and brand recognition, and I am not saying go nokia and have 23123 devices, but at least try two to three designs...

Hey apple please dont screw this up again...(see firewire, see glossy only, see super reflective glass screen....)

[Saladinos]

at first i really didn't think the iphone nano was coming, and i still really don't. but with more and more rumors, it just might be released. i'm guessing it will be $99?

i mean, i would like to see this device released. but i think i'd rather see a netbook device that runs iphone apps

More rumours don't make it any more credible.

[Eso]

The pricing sucks.
T-Mobile's Sidekick plan is $55/month and has unlimited everything (with AIM messaging).

If the kids want an iPhone so bad, they'll just get a jailbroken first gen.

Exactly. The pricing sucks.

iTunes charges $.99 per song. If the kids want the song so bad, they'll just get a P2P file sharing program.

*Rolls eyes*

[chewbaccacabra]

The iPhone Nano is real, I held one. Only it isn't made by Apple, rather some Chinese bootleggers. I've seen them in the markets here in Shanghai and in Mongkok in HK, when I was purchasing my factory-unlocked 3g iPhone.;)


Yes! I was amazed to learn that iPod shuffles come with a screen in China!!! :D

[rockosmodurnlif]

Exactly. The pricing sucks.

iTunes charges $.99 per song. If the kids want the song so bad, they'll just get a P2P file sharing program.

*Rolls eyes*
And they do too.

[randomusername]

While I do see an iPhone Nano soon, I don't see it at MacWorld.

Here's what I think it will be like if it is an all touchscreen iPhone...
-3" multi-touch capacitive glass touch screen (An iPhone's screen with the size of an LG touchscreen)
-3.2 Megapixel Camera. It has to happen to the iPhones soon anyways, and look at the Dare. It has a 3.2 megapixel camera.
-WiFi will be included because of the iTunes WiFi Music Store.
-3G will be included. Most phones, even phones SMALLER than what the iPhone Nano is predicted to be have 3G.
-Accelerometer. It would make everything easier for a landscape keyboard instead of having a button on the alphanumberic keypad to change to landscape like the LG Vu.
-3.5mm headset jack, obviously.
-It will have a web browser. Every phone, especially every touch screen phone has a web browser. It will probably be a watered down version of Safari on the current iPhones.
-Landscape keyboard. This is a must if the screen will be smaller.

And I know how to keep it from cannibalizing Apple's smartphone sales...make it a smart phone. Look at the LG Incite and HTC Touch and Touch Diamond. They have 3" and 2.8" screens, respectively, and are smart phones. Who says that Apple can't shrink the phone down a bit and get rid of a few features software-wise? That way you can have the big, powerful, feature rich iPhone 3G (or iPhone Pro if they give it a separate name) and then the slightly less powerful, smaller, and a little more consumer friendly iPhone Nano.

[Eso]

And they do too.

Thank you, my point exactly.

And they would buy the iPhone Nano too.

[Roessnakhan]

I was bored. >_>

http://www.vimeo.com/2617483

(And sorry my 3D Modeling skills are not that great.)

[nagromme]

Looks like a nice case! (For a terrible product.)

Apple may well think of some direction I haven't. (This has happened endlessly in the past, in fact.) But every iPhone Nano I CAN think of is a terrible idea.

Maybe a case maker got some inside info and jumped the gun making cases for some internal experiment that will never see the light.

[cloud]

It's funny how people get mad when Apple "might" release a new product. What do they want Apple to do, stand still?

Anyway, I think that they WILL release an iPhone Nano, but of course I don't know when. I think that:

-the screen can stay the same size while shrinking the top and bottom of the phone.

-it will not have 3G or GPS (no data plan = cheaper monthly bills)

-it WILL have WiFi.

-it will use all the same apps as it used to. Remember the App Store and the iTunes Store are big drivers for the iPhone.

-the iPhone Nano will probably have 4GB and 8GB, while the iPhone move to 16GB and 32GB.

-it'll be priced at $59 for the 4Gb and $99 for the 8GB. The 4GB might eventually be discontinued if it doesn't do very well, but it gives a very good entry price.

Think about Apple's strategy. They want Safari, music distribution and application development on their devices to rise continually...not to mention phone marketshare. Selling a cheaper iPhone that's cheaper to make with a much cheaper monthly bill is the way to do it. It'll be the "smartphone for everyone". Apple doesn't need to dumbdown the phone, they just need the price to be more accessible. $99 for a phone with a $40 monthly bill is how you do it.

:apple:

[Eso]

I think that:

-the screen can stay the same size while shrinking the top and bottom of the phone.

-it will not have 3G or GPS (no data plan = cheaper monthly bills)

-it WILL have WiFi.

-it will use all the same apps as it used to. Remember the App Store and the iTunes Store are big drivers for the iPhone.

-the iPhone Nano will probably have 4GB and 8GB, while the iPhone move to 16GB and 32GB.

-it'll be priced at $59 for the 4Gb and $99 for the 8GB. The 4GB might eventually be discontinued if it doesn't do very well, but it gives a very good entry price.

You just described the current iPhone:

-but without speaker or home button

-with 3G removed unnecessarily as 3G is also used for voice, not just data

-yep, just the iPhone

-yep, just the iPhone

-but with smaller internal memory even though the 4 GB and 16 GB flash chips take up the same amount of space

-yet somehow the price has been magically slashed hundreds of dollars?

Uh... I don't think so.

[bobsentell]

So another picture shows up. So there is a rumor there is an iPhone Nano in the works. Got it. Can we wait until we have some physical evidence and not just pictures before we post anymore about this thing? Anyone can make this crap up. Until I see a picture of an ACTUAL product, and not just concept pics, this is all hearsay.

I will say this: if Apple sells a phone with a smaller screen, I won't buy it. The screen on my new 3G is small enough. Some people might, and if Apple is doing this then their research says there is a demand. I don't think a nano will canniblize the 3G sales. Most people who want a smaller phone weren't buying the 3G to begin with.

[sk8ordie]

It's funny how people get mad when Apple "might" release a new product. What do they want Apple to do, stand still?

Anyway, I think that they WILL release an iPhone Nano, but of course I don't know when. I think that:

-the screen can stay the same size while shrinking the top and bottom of the phone.

-it will not have 3G or GPS (no data plan = cheaper monthly bills)

-it WILL have WiFi.

-it will use all the same apps as it used to. Remember the App Store and the iTunes Store are big drivers for the iPhone.

-the iPhone Nano will probably have 4GB and 8GB, while the iPhone move to 16GB and 32GB.

-it'll be priced at $59 for the 4Gb and $99 for the 8GB. The 4GB might eventually be discontinued if it doesn't do very well, but it gives a very good entry price.

Think about Apple's strategy. They want Safari, music distribution and application development on their devices to rise continually...not to mention phone marketshare. Selling a cheaper iPhone that's cheaper to make with a much cheaper monthly bill is the way to do it. It'll be the "smartphone for everyone". Apple doesn't need to dumbdown the phone, they just need the price to be more accessible. $99 for a phone with a $40 monthly bill is how you do it.

:apple:
Good post, very well thought out. Im picturing my ipod touch with a built in phone....that would be sweet.

Fingers crossed, hope this happens!

[fobfob]

-the screen can stay the same size while shrinking the top and bottom of the phone.


Why? If it's possible, Why not just do that with the current Iphone. Does anyone actually want the top and bottom, or a choice of two models (as some are proposing here), one with, one without?

In any case this will cost, and the nano has to be *cheaper* than the iPhone, because that's part of the brand image "nano". The nano represents a smaller, cheaper, cooler, alternative that lacks some features.


-it will not have 3G or GPS (no data plan = cheaper monthly bills)


Sorry but there is no way Apple is going back to pre 3G, now that they have the chipset. You don't understand. 3G != "data". 3G is just a (label for) a set of communications protocols (third generation). Most of the world is migrating to 3G for voice. Yes, it can support data at a much higher rate, and that's perhaps the killer app for 3G. But increasingly, there are areas with only 3G. When the original IPhone came out without 3G, most of the world laughed.


-it WILL have WiFi.


Why? I can't sync with iTunes over wifi. But I admit, that the presence of wifi will be contingent on the presence of Safari. (See below)


-it will use all the same apps as it used to. Remember the App Store and the iTunes Store are big drivers for the iPhone.


You haven't addressed how this can be done with a smaller screen. People are already complaining that the current on-screen keyboard is too small. Can't be done. On the other hand, as I mentioned earlier, there is no reason that a customised version of the iTunes app couldn't be provided on the Nano to allow purchase of music and video. In fact, they'd be crazy not to do it.


-the iPhone Nano will probably have 4GB and 8GB, while the iPhone move to 16GB and 32GB.


OK....


-it'll be priced at $59 for the 4Gb and $99 for the 8GB.


So how is something that is smaller and virtually identical in functionality to the present product except missing GPS (a couple of dollars) and 3G (can't be much more) is going to be cheaper than the present product? Why not just discontinue the present iPhone and replace it with the nano (in which case, why call it a nano?)


Think about Apple's strategy. They want Safari, music distribution and application development on their devices to rise continually...not to mention phone marketshare.


Cool. First of all, a stripped down nano would do exactly that- massive market penetration in the phone market. As for Safari, there's no revenue generation there so why is that part of Apple's strategy? Sure, they want to increase revenue from music and apps, but don't forget, this product is aimed to ween users off ipod nanos (which they're doing anyway, see my earlier post) and their rubbish 2G phone that cost them nothing, to slowly get them hooked in the Apple ecosystem, oh yeah, and to make a profit..


Selling a cheaper iPhone that's cheaper to make with a much cheaper monthly bill is the way to do it. It'll be the "smartphone for everyone". Apple doesn't need to dumbdown the phone, they just need the price to be more accessible. $99 for a phone with a $40 monthly bill is how you do it.


Agree with the first part. But the second part falls down. All you are really saying is that the iPhone should be cheaper to capture more of the market, and since we're talking about nanos them umm, how about lopping off the top and bottom.

Sure, I'd like to see a cheaper iPhone, and if possible, why not lop the top and bottom off. But that's not a nano. Remember, a "Nano" iProduct is smaller, cooler, cheaper and therefore has less functionality. An espresso version.

Just my 2c... :D

[bobsentell]

I'll say this and then I'm calling it done with this rumor:
If you want to know what apple will do next, just look at their history. The iPod Mini/Nano was the same thing as the iPod but with a smaller screen and less memory. The price still was in the $200. If Apple is coming out with a smaller iPhone, it will probably follow the same track.

Apple makes money on the sell of it's equipment, not the ATT contracts. Apple is a Billion Dollar corporation that's in it to make money. Unlike Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo, who sell their hardware at a loss but make out like bandits in the software department, Apple does not follow that strategy. Whatever they sell will will be priced at least $150. Odds are the iPhone Nano, if it exists, will be a basic touchscreen phone with an iPod built in and 8GB of memory. Apple will discontinue the current 8GB and move the 16GB into the lower price category and add a 32GB model.

The iPod is still the same iPod that was introduced years ago. It's still priced the same. The only thing that changed was the styling and the software. The mini/nano is a cheaper, yet slimmed down model. I'd expect the same thing with the iPhone Nano.

[rockosmodurnlif]

Thank you, my point exactly.

And they would buy the iPhone Nano too.
Well of course people will buy the iPhone nano. People buy pet rocks and fart apps.

My point is iPhone contracts suck because the prices suck.

[MacTraveller]

I don't want an iPhone Nano. I want an AT&T Phone Bill Nano.

The iPhone hardware is not the primary problem. The AT&T poor-service high-cost monopolistic lock is the problem.

[jmpage2]

I'll say this and then I'm calling it done with this rumor:
If you want to know what apple will do next, just look at their history. The iPod Mini/Nano was the same thing as the iPod but with a smaller screen and less memory. The price still was in the $200. If Apple is coming out with a smaller iPhone, it will probably follow the same track.

Apple makes money on the sell of it's equipment, not the ATT contracts. Apple is a Billion Dollar corporation that's in it to make money. Unlike Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo, who sell their hardware at a loss but make out like bandits in the software department, Apple does not follow that strategy. Whatever they sell will will be priced at least $150. Odds are the iPhone Nano, if it exists, will be a basic touchscreen phone with an iPod built in and 8GB of memory. Apple will discontinue the current 8GB and move the 16GB into the lower price category and add a 32GB model.

The iPod is still the same iPod that was introduced years ago. It's still priced the same. The only thing that changed was the styling and the software. The mini/nano is a cheaper, yet slimmed down model. I'd expect the same thing with the iPhone Nano.

This is the best post in this thread.

Apple has done this with every product they've introduced. Bring out a flagship product, and then offer a lower priced/featured version for "the masses" while continually ramping up the flag ship over time.

I would also point out that there's probably a LOT more demand for an iphone Nano than an ipod touch.

[fobfob]

The iPod is still the same iPod that was introduced years ago.

Technically, no, but we'll go with it (from the point of view of the customer). The gap (in number of songs stored) between the nano and full sized ipod was much greater than now, and more telling, the outright number of songs stored was so low on a nano that you really had to think long and hard about the choice. This sort of difference is nothing like the choice between 4GB vs 16GB on an iPhone. A memory difference is not enough to require a "nano" designation on the iphone.

It's still priced the same. The only thing that changed was the styling and the software. The mini/nano is a cheaper, yet slimmed down model. I'd expect the same thing with the iPhone Nano.

Well you contradict yourself because you said the price was the same. So did you mean that the iPhone Nano will be smaller and cheaper? Sure, the memory will be lower but that surely contributes only a small part of the cost/size of the phone, especially if we're going through an expensive slimming design cycle building a new smaller product at least physically from scratch.

I agree, the software is the main difference. However, a smaller screen size represents a major compatibility problem with the iphone. The only comparison for this disconnect between model capability with the ipod/ipod nano is in games and the viability of watching video, which are hardly major factors.

So the software difference that removes the app store and therefore compatibility with iPhone also means that they can use a cheaper computing platform (cpu/mem/video acceleration) than iphone that would also be smaller physically.

BTW I'm sure I'm wrong, just debating for the sake of it! Merry Xmas!

[fobfob]

I would also point out that there's probably a LOT more demand for an iphone Nano than an ipod touch.

Agreed, and this is the dilemma that Apple faces, because the market for standalone players (ie. Nano) is slowly falling.

So Apple's brand new product, which is basically a whole new computing platform is poised to take over where the Nano left off. Only it's not.

Why not? My guess? Convergence is finally here. The rise of the functionality of non-smart phones is one major factor. Even a $0 phone has a camera and probably takes an SD card that could have as much capacity as a Nano. Even if they're using iTunes (most likely on a PC), drag and drop is doable, if not as easy as syncing, assuming they're using MP3s. For all I know some now play AAC.

Another factor is the aesthetics. To me, the phone and touch look cold, monolithic, business like. Sleek, sure. Sexy, maybe. But take a look at the ipod nano. Basically, it's cute and non threatening. That leads us on to functionality.

The user interface of the Nano is simple, and importantly, tactile. You can use it without looking at it.

Even with the coolness of the touch "you had me at scrolling" interface, it doesn't capture the simplicity of the ipod. And as much as I love my iphone, the "ipod" interface is seriously annoying to use compared with a physical ipod, not just because of the lack of wheel, just the design of the screen layout and controls. I find it fussy and inefficient. But no-one else seems to.. (eg. why can't I rate a song and look at the playing details at the same time on such a massive screen?)

So how to penetrate or expand the market for ipods when your only supposed replacement is not really right? Build a simple phone, and make the interface even simpler than the iphone. Tweak the few apps that remain so they are just so simple even my mum can use it. Once people are truly comfortable with touch as a replacement input device for the wheel, they'll upgrade to the higher spec iPhone/touch.

[w0by]

I'd like it if apple came out with the iphone nano. I like my iPhone 3G but it's too big. I like really small phones that can be in my pocket and I don't even know they're there. Most phones that are small such as the Samsung Trace are nice and small but don't have a nice touch screen with features. I think it would be cool to have a "smaller" iphone.

[PowerFullMac]

That's the "Urbanspoon" app on the screen.

I am starting to think there will be a iPhone nano, just because of the sheer volume of rumors, and because we know the case companies got measurements for the iPhone 3G so they could have got the iPhone nano ones at the same time.

I don't think it will have WiFi or the App Store and iTunes store (due to the lack of WiFi) though.

[dannyboxer]

I don't think that having a touch screen iPhone Nano would be a good idea- the screen would be to small to type on and use. Instead, I would personaly much prefer something that looks excatcly the same as the current gen iPod Nanos wih a slide out number pad like this.

http://www.t3.com/images/variants/news/Apple-leaks-nano-phone-plans_w500.jpg

Maybe the number pad could be touch screen so the numbers could turn into letters for typing.

I think that if Apple do release a iPhone Nano it would be on PAYG because then a lot more people including myself would buy it.

I think that a phone like this from Apple would be around £150 and it would come in 8GB and 16GB versions just like the new iPod Nano. If it came in all the same colours it would be great as well. It could be exactly the same as the iPod Nano just with a slide out keypad and phone and text functionalities.

[trekkie604]

If they sold these unlocked at retail so they can be used on any GSM network they would sell like hotcakes.

[PowerFullMac]

If they sold these unlocked at retail so they can be used on any GSM network they would sell like hotcakes.

The probability of that is extremely low, unfortunately.

[dannyboxer]

Just made a mockup.

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp115/TheEpicFilmCo/Picture2.png

Under the screen there is a trackpad like on the new MacBooks. It can change between numbers for dialing and letters when it is rotated on it's side for texting, and of course it can be click-wheel for using the iPod functions and going through menus.

[Simplicated]

removed

[dannyboxer]

removed

huh?

[mccldwll]

Apple makes money on the sell of it's equipment, not the ATT contracts. ...... Odds are the iPhone Nano, if it exists, will be a basic touchscreen phone with an iPod built in and 8GB of memory. Apple will discontinue the current 8GB and move the 16GB into the lower price category and add a 32GB model.

...... I'd expect the same thing with the iPhone Nano.

Bingo. Except not sure what you mean about making money on sale of phones, not T contracts. Aapl gets probably around $450/iPhone from T. Doesn't really matter if get upfront, or over 2 year contract. In either case, the amount is determined by what T can get monthly, and data plan bumps that amount. An iPhone w/o data plan can't get much subsidy. While one could put in wifi to drive apps sales, then just have a smaller iPod Touch phone. If it arrives, I still see it as an iPod nano w/ phone. Touch a different product. Existing iPhone merges the 2 distinct lines. Different strokes for different folks.

[mccldwll]

Bingo. Except not sure what you mean about making money on sale of phones, not T contracts. Aapl gets probably around $450/iPhone from T. Doesn't really matter if get upfront, or over 2 year contract. In either case, the amount is determined by what T can get monthly, and data plan bumps that amount. An iPhone w/o data plan can't get much subsidy. While one could put in wifi to drive apps sales, then just have a smaller iPod Touch phone. If it arrives, I still see it as an iPod nano w/ phone. Touch a different product. Existing iPhone merges the 2 distinct lines. Different strokes for different folks.

Touchscreen iPod nano w/ phone.

[bananas]

I hope this turns out to be true. If there was an iPhone nano that would only cost around 100 €, I would get one immediately.

It doesn't matter to me if there wasn't 3G or GPS. Just a basic touch screen phone with iPod and maybe wifi for browsing the web. Heck, I'm ready to buy one for 150 € right now.

[mccldwll]

I hope this turns out to be true. If there was an iPhone nano that would only cost around 100 €, I would get one immediately.

It doesn't matter to me if there wasn't 3G or GPS. Just a basic touch screen phone with iPod and maybe wifi for browsing the web. Heck, I'm ready to buy one for 150 € right now.

It probably would have to have a camera since most do these days. If you give it both phone and wifi, that's getting pretty close to an iPhone and Touch--phone, apps, and no data plan. aapl's big $$ is w/ iPhone due to subsidy. Cannibalizing those sales probably not a good idea. If there is a nano on horizon, a touch screen kiddie phone (tunes and calls w/ no web) and no data plan $ better fits the products niche. Kids then can buy both nano phone AND Touch, and not have a data plan. Others can buy iPhone and get everything, and more, in one.

[Detlev_73]

I'm not sure what benefit Apple was able to get from making the iPhone exclusive-- perhaps it was a way to get AT&T to pitch in what was necessary to make the back-end work (visual voice mail and what not) (I was originally led to believe that Apple getting a cut of the monthly subscriber fees for iPhone users was what turned off other cell phone providers that Apple approached-- I don't know, but Apple doesn't get a portion of subscriber fees from iPhone 3g customers now). The benefit to AT&T is obvious-- anyone in the U.S. who wants an iPhone (aside from those willing to pay exorbitant amounts to get unlocked versions from overseas, etc) has to sign up with AT&T if they're not already with them. They also have to sign up for a relatively expensive data plan.

But how can you NOT see the benefit to Apple of having a wider distribution channel and increased market to sell to? There are a host of people who will not switch to AT&T but might otherwise snap up an iPhone.

Fascinating. When the iPhone was originally introduced, I told myself I wasn't going to get one because all I wanted was a plain phone. Then, when I actually got to play with one, I was instantly hooked. I was with Verizon (with one of their phones they ALWAYS cripple with their limited OS, but supposedly 'best' network), and the first chance I got I switched, no looking back. I guess it depends on personal choice: me, I'd rather have a sophisticated, sexy phone, with a mediocre network. Verizon had their chance: they lost to lack of vision, and they are still trying to get my $200 early cancellation fee...nothing like caller ID, someday they'll get tired of calling and just write off the bogus 'early cancellation fee': they can stick it up their rear end. :cool:

[cloud]

That's the "Urbanspoon" app on the screen.

I am starting to think there will be a iPhone nano, just because of the sheer volume of rumors, and because we know the case companies got measurements for the iPhone 3G so they could have got the iPhone nano ones at the same time.

I don't think it will have WiFi or the App Store and iTunes store (due to the lack of WiFi) though.

No App Store or iTunes? lol, that'd be a HUGE mistake. The iPhone Nano will sell more units than the iPhone. They MUST include those. The iPhone Nano can still have WiFi. The iPhone has the most WiFi use than any other type of phone. I don't think they should go backwards with that.

:apple:

[Kilamite]

Just made a mockup.

Under the screen there is a trackpad like on the new MacBooks. It can change between numbers for dialing and letters when it is rotated on it's side for texting, and of course it can be click-wheel for using the iPod functions and going through menus.

lol :eek:

[slu]

I haven't finished reading this thread all the way yet, but I find it hilarious. Reminds me of the original iPod thread, the original shuffle thread, and the original nano thread. I don't see how more product choice at a potentially cheaper price point would be bad for anyone...

You people have no idea. I would have loved to have the choice of this device over the iPhone 3G that I currently have. I have the 8 GB iPhone and I use hardly any space on it. You know why? Because I have a 160 GB iPod for my media. I have a couple of podcasts on my phone and that is it. A phone with 4 GB of disk or less is hardly useless as many of you portray it to be.

[iMacoo7]

I honestly think this will be the next big thing. In order to keep the iPhone bonanza going ,Seems as though Apple would release this product instead of updating the current iPhone 3G (It would be a slap in the face, considering that the iPhone 3G has hit different countries just in recent months and is still awaiting to hit one or two more). So in order to keep the new and current 3G iPhone holders happy , make an iPhone nano for those whom want an iPhone but do not want to spend a mass amount up front.For the ones that want the interface of the 3G iPhone but with a few less features and still have an all in one device. Im thinking the monthly plan would be $19.99 and the price point of sale would be $79-$99 or free for new subscribers(With some sort of mail in rebate), giving Apple/ATT more customers that once were negative about the upfront fees and surcharges involving the 3G iPhone.

In ending, It would make perfect sense considering the current financial situation of the masses during this recession time and the hype already surrounding the 3G iPhone.
The concept is just that, a Concept.
I remember when the forum was flooded with negative comments about the black housing on the supposed fake image of the new 3G iPhone , which turned out to be the real deal and almost everyone with negative comments about the black housing loved it once they seen it or went with the white housing.

All we can do is speculate until the day comes (Either January or July 2008) for the announcement of new goodies or no goodies at all....

[jmpage2]

I think it's already been posted that the case manufacturer reported that they put simulated screen shots on there since they only know the dimensions of the new product.

In other words, there's nothing to say it will run Urban Spoon or any other app store applications.

It's difficult to say exactly how Apple would position it, but I can see them going with less memory, removal of the 3G, GPS and a few other things to bring the cost down.

Remember folks, an iSupply tear down estimated Apple's cost for building and packaging the 8GB 3G at around $150. If they can build a cost reduced "nano" version for around $100 and sell it to carriers for $300 (who will then offer it for $99 + 2 year contract) they are going to sell the hell out of it.

[enkadrummer88]

note that the revealed part of the casing for the "iPhone nano" itself is grey aluminum with with a black silencer switch, the same deisgn for the original iPhone (as opposed to white or black plastic with chrome buttons that are implemented on the iPhone 3G)

[olternaut]

I also think an iphone nano would work IF DESIGNED AND EXECUTED CORRECTLY!
Those xskn pics just DO NOT make any sense to me for an Apple produced iphone.
And if it wasn't for xskn's prior record regarding leaks I would have already dismissed this. But now I dunno what to think.

Man o man I DO NOT envy Phil Schiller right now. :eek:

[pokute]

noooo, please don't be true please!

[trekkie604]

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It's interesting that the majority believe that an iPhone nano would be sold in conjunction with a particlar carrier's service. However, I think that of apple used their regular distribution channels through retail to sell the phone, a whole lot of switchers wouldn't hesitate at picking one up.

[SuperMacMan]

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I don't get it. Presumably making the iPhone smaller, but retaining all of the functions of the bigger one, makes it cheaper? How does shrinking the screen but keeping the screen resolution of the regular iPhone make the iPhone nano any cheaper to make? Okay, it could have just 4GB of RAM, but they can just do that with a regular iPhone as well. The differentiation between products would be solely based on size? If anything, the iPhone nano would be more expensive, because they have to cram more features in a tinier package. They could of course dump the WiFi, but that's just a few cents shaving off manufacturing costs. Also note that the iPod nano has about a tenth of the storage space of the iPod Classic. iPhone nano and iPhone 3G differentiation wouldn't be on size, clearly, but it would be based on 3G versus EDGE. An iPhone for everyone. But how would one type on such a small screen?

iPhone nano: EDGE
iPhone 3G: 3G

Replying to "The Man" regarding his statement that the iPhone Nano will have 4GB RAM.

The present iPhone only has 128MB I believe. So no way will it have 4GB!!
I think you mean memory?

[SuperMacMan]

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Problem:
Too small to type like on the regular iPhone.
Solution:
Keyboard is landscape. You can see a bit less of the SMS conversations though.

Problem:
iPhone nano would cannibalize iPhone 3G sales.
Solution:
Cripple the iPhone nano. Remove WIFI, 3G, Safari and all the advanced apps.

Problem:
How do you make it affordable?
Solution:
Less memory (start at 4GB), less accessories, no 3D graphics, no accelerometer.

Problem:
Everybody has an iPhone already
Solution:
Make a prepaid option so teenagers and people with criminal records can get them, too. Just pop in your favorite provider's SIM card.


I personally don't like contracts and wouldn't get any cell phone with a contract. Prepaid is cheaper for my usage anyway.

Don't agree on no accelerometer. No way jose!! Oh and every single phone has a web browser these days (even my $79 one!!) sothey can't drop that.

[SuperMacMan]

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IMHO, I think the iPhone Nano would be a huge success. $99 sold at retail stores, unlocked, pop a SIM in and away you go. And also have them in the ... God forbid... Telstra Shops (Telstra is Australia's AT&T) at $79 or so ething locked to Telstra, on prepaid. I'd buy one in a second! Well maybe not a Telstra. Vodafone definately.
I'd have my iPod Touch as a PDA, and iPhone Nano for school & iPod.

It would be 4GB, EDGE/GSM, no GPS, WiFi, 2MP camera and a 3.0" multi touch display. You'd type in landscape or using T9. (pressing 2 repeatedly gives you abc, etc.)

They'd sell like hotcakes!!

[jonnyspeed]

Anyway, I think that they WILL release an iPhone Nano, but of course I don't know when. I think that:

-it will not have 3G or GPS (no data plan = cheaper monthly bills)

:apple:

the iPhone is all about 3G = its what makes it wonderful. Not having 3G would massively affect adoption. its like a step backwards and a stupid one.

[jonnyspeed]

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Replying to "The Man" regarding his statement that the iPhone Nano will have 4GB RAM.

The present iPhone only has 128MB I believe. So no way will it have 4GB!!
I think you mean memory?

RAM is memory. the 'M' gives it away = random access memory

I think you mean STORAGE.

:D

[currentinterest]

An unlocked iPhone nano would be more like $399 than $99.

I think it will happen. It will put pressure on the competition. It will not have GPS, though it may have 3G, but maybe just Edge to keep the cost down. It will have WiFi and Safari, perhaps no email. It will have iTunes and App store. It will initially be $$79–99 (locked to AT&T) and come with 4GB; perhaps an 8 GB option will be available for $129–$149. The middle school and HS kids will love it. It will not be targeted at business users.

[nfl46]

13 days left and we'll know if the rumors are true.

[scottylans]

We want an ipod TOUCH nano edition :/ Like I said before the 4g ipod nano came out, grrr

Ipod touch about 20% smaller or 15% bigger than an ipod nano 3G (on it's side)

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
Release that and sadly, I'll buy it - ditch this god awful ipod nano 4g (which is very, very inferior to the 3g)

[Roessnakhan]

I love my nano 4g (and I used to have a 3g). :confused:

[cptdavep]

Yes, tell me about it - that's why I went from a small HTC Windows Mobile with tiny keys to an iPhone in the first place.


Well, that explains the 4Gig iPhone refurbs for $149 - I think the Nano will be 4Gig for $99 subsidized. It'll go 8 Gigs when the regular iPhone capacities are upgraded.



I would imagine certain apps, like SMS, would have to be modified to work in landscape for the iPhone Nano, and then they would implement "landscape mode" for the regular iPhone as well. :)

Maybe rather than using an on screen full keyboard, it will use a onscreen numeric keypad for text entry. It'll work well at that size and is common on smaller non-smart phones which this is competing with on price anyway. All my phones before the iPhone used this (with real buttons) ad typing speed is not much slower.

[MrCrowbar]

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Don't agree on no accelerometer. No way jose!! Oh and every single phone has a web browser these days (even my $79 one!!) sothey can't drop that.

Just remembered the iPod nano has an accelerometer so I guess it makes sense to switch on Cover Flow (whish I could disable that on my iPhone...).

Anyway, they'll find a way to cripple the iPhone nano to make people buy the big one just for that key feature. Removing music and video playback would hurt them in terms of iTunes sales.

I personally only use Phone, iPod, SMS, Notes, Calerndar, Camera and Photos. Mail and Safari are annoying if you have a laptop handy. Safari is just painfully slow (even on WIFI) and cumbersome to navigate. I lose my patience too quickly here. Mail... well, it doesn't sync with My Mac's Mail (POP3) at all and it has no junk filter, rules, color highlighting or anything. I wish it would import all those settings from the Mac and sync the e-Mails like it does Address Book COntacs and iCal data.

[MrCrowbar]

Maybe rather than using an on screen full keyboard, it will use a onscreen numeric keypad for text entry. It'll work well at that size and is common on smaller non-smart phones which this is competing with on price anyway. All my phones before the iPhone used this (with real buttons) ad typing speed is not much slower.

mockup:

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6535/iphonenanokeyboard3sk7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/iphonenanokeyboard3sk7.jpg/1/w266.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img442/iphonenanokeyboard3sk7.jpg/1/)

[DougNeidermeyer]

Agreed with ^ above, it would have to operate with a keyboard similar to bbs storm when oriented vertically, essentially being the same as any non-qwerty phone. And it would certainly not EXACTLY resemble that chinese mp4 player knockoff as the poster linked to on the first page. It just appears to small/clumsy to be a "nano-sized iphone".

HOWEVER this just in!
-New iphone 4g will come with these added features:
-bluetooth headset compatible alpha wave detector for sms, web browsing, scrolling
-contact lens video screen (ive seen the patent for this) for visual output/ichat functionality
-holographic keyboard for significant document creation and those of you without the brain- functionality to master the alpha wave processing
-an all of it will come encompassed in an ipod 1G white/chrome case with click/real-scrolling wheel as a throwback to 2001

seriously people give it some time before a random "case designers" mock-ups garner legitimate attention for a product that builds off of another that hasnt even finished rolling out yet, what are they Blackberry?

[lamar777]

So another picture shows up. So there is a rumor there is an iPhone Nano in the works. Got it. Can we wait until we have some physical evidence and not just pictures before we post anymore about this thing? Anyone can make this crap up. Until I see a picture of an ACTUAL product, and not just concept pics, this is all hearsay.

I will say this: if Apple sells a phone with a smaller screen, I won't buy it. The screen on my new 3G is small enough. Some people might, and if Apple is doing this then their research says there is a demand. I don't think a nano will canniblize the 3G sales. Most people who want a smaller phone weren't buying the 3G to begin with.

You complain and point fingers then do exactly what you complain about, classic.

[iMacoo7]

I think this is sort of odd, considering that the ipod touch/iphone are the same height.
Found this on beejives website.
link is here:
http://www.beejive.com/index.htm

[sushi]

I think this is sort of odd, considering that the ipod touch/iphone are the same height.
Based on the measurements found on Apple's web site, they are not.

The iPod touch is 4.3 inches and the iPhone is 4.5 inches.

Close, but not the same.

[rubenmer5]

Has anyone thought that maybe it's the new ipod nano? Basically adding touch to the nano line.

You got it! :eek: There is no way an iPhone Nano. Unless, is with less capabilities like no 3G, no GPS and the best no contract. With that, the rumor of $99 iPhone could be true. But then again, I could be wrong.:D

[spydr]

I just don't get the concept behind an "iPhone Nano".

That is because you are trying to apply the same logic from the iPod family.
Obviously, both are (eventually a smaller iphone WILL be released) flash memory based – but the miniaturization would likely rely on getting rid of accelerometer, GPS, Camera and maybe even 3G. Apple will find a way to market it as a different class of phones, perhaps a smartish phone, targeted at low data usage crowds. Obviously, it will have to come out for a much cheaper TCO. I think this will be the only way for Apple to sustain the momentum in iPhone sales next year onwards.

[bananas]

Most of the people saying "No, there's no need for an iPhone nano. I don't want one" seem to be owners of current iPhone. I think the whole point of introducing another model is to get more customers outside the owners of current model.

I don't want the current iPhone 3G - It's too expensive and I want to choose my mobile operator. The current iPhone would also be the biggest phone for me in over 5 years. So I think there really is market for smaller, cheaper iPhone with less functions.

[NyMetsFan08]

Haha iphone nano maybe in the future.

[Mandrax]

an all new photo is available here : http://www.iphonefr.com/viewtopic.php?pid=437938#61

amazing :eek:

[iMacmatician]

note that the revealed part of the casing for the "iPhone nano" itself is grey aluminum with with a black silencer switch, the same deisgn for the original iPhone (as opposed to white or black plastic with chrome buttons that are implemented on the iPhone 3G)So no 3G then?

We want an ipod TOUCH nano edition :/ Like I said before the 4g ipod nano came out, grrr

Ipod touch about 20% smaller or 15% bigger than an ipod nano 3G (on it's side)

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
Release that and sadly, I'll buy it - ditch this god awful ipod nano 4g (which is very, very inferior to the 3g)I want a larger-than-iPod touch mini-tablet too.

an all new photo is available here : http://www.iphonefr.com/viewtopic.php?pid=437938#61

amazing :eek:Why does it remind me of these (http://greenrabbits.blogspot.com/2008/01/ipod-touch-pro-8-touchscreen.html)?

[aviationalyours]

Great idea(s). But the main reason for the 3G's sales is the developer comunity. Apps were ready because they released the SDK months ago. If you release a nano (nothing on FCC btw) this fast it would have no apps rendering it useless. And the current apps won't work because you can't fit the same electronics in the smaller package. Give me one reason why this makes sense?

[kastenbrust]

the Iphone currently runs a modified, slimmed down version of MAC OS X which is a testiment to Apples well designed operating system, however it takes up lots of memory still, and i simply cant grasp how an Iphone Nano could possibly provide this? unless they choose to run a different OS on it, which means none of the current Iphone apps or widgets would work, like any normal phone, but then you may as well get a samsung or something because it would be no different! :cool:

[cinder]

I see two reasons why Apple would risk allegedly fracturing iPhone development to three separate screen dimensions:

1. Capture the women's and japanese markets by creating a smaller alternative.

2. Capture more of the low end market by creating something less expensive (but probably not as cheap as people are thinking . . .)

3. Allow more color options by manufacturing the phone with a different lower-cost material that is more easily colored. (ie: the iPod nano color spectrum . . . but probably not that diverse)

Apple is after more hardware sales . . .
And realistically, it might be better for Developers if there's an easy toolkit to use to convert their apps to fit on the potential iPhone nano screen because they'll have a secondary revenue stream from a smaller investment of time to convert their old app.

I predicted Apple would release an iPhone nano as soon as the original was announced but I had given up on that hope until now. :)

[iNassar]

come on stop the bs!! wee all really know the iphone nano is a lie..... it´s to small to be practical imagine trying to type on such a keyboard or doing all of the other functions the iphone has. it would certainly be a nightmare to use!

[duck33]

I can see it now.... The new iPhone Nano with Copy and Paste.. :D

[scootaru]

I can see it now.... The new iPhone Nano with Copy and Paste.. :D

And don't forget MMS

[onehoop]

It seems to me that the primary advantage of an iPhone Nano would be if they could offer it through another carrier. Since they want to continue with the world market it would have to be a GSM device, which would limit said selection to T-Mobile.

It would be pretty ironic if people ended up jail-breaking iPhone Nanos to work with AT&T. Anyway, offering it on a different network would allow them to structure the plans different than for the current iPhones, although aside from the GPS I'm not sure why it would be any lower. It's not as though people will talk or email less on a smaller device. Agreed, however, that it does not make much sense to worry about the difference between $197 and $99 when you'll end up spending $1799 on monthly charges!

If they can make the phone work (landscape-only mode?) then I would be interested in a smaller iPhone. I've been able to resist the urge to buy an iPhone so far because of the vast difference in the price plans between what I'm paying for my Blackberry Pearl with Sprint and the iPhone price plans. Although I'll probably bite the bullet once they add cut and paste to the iPhone. I just can't bring myself to pay more for what is essentially a toy. In the meantime, I consider the smaller form factor and significantly reduced weight of the Pearl to be significant advantages, so I fit the profile of someone who is interested in an iPhone nano.


M@

[gkarris]

Sorry, I don't get it.

People are saying that the case is for the Chinese Bootleg iPhone Nano...

What's the deal?

[darklighter]

Only way the iphone nano would work is if it's made to be just a regular phone running on EDGE and not a 3G smart phone.

That way they could sell it for $99 and have a $40 a month plan to hit that demographic cell phone users. No data plan needed. No web browser. Just text messaging, calling, music and games.

[Donz0r]

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=147837&d=1228901652

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=147838&d=1228901652

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=147839&stc=1&d=1228901652

http://www.frenchiphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/p1000964.jpg

I say it's real. I say it will have less features and will not require the data plan and will therefore grab a lot more consumers and drag them into the apple cell phone realm.

[bananas]

I say it's real. I say it will have less features and will not require the data plan and will therefore grab a lot more consumers and drag them into the apple cell phone realm.

And I hope you're right, because I want to be dragged into Apple cell phone realm!

[powers74]

What if Apple just blew everyone away.

iPhone nano with:

Same storage options
wifi
3G
GPS
App Store compatible
iCal
email
mms - or whatever that stuff is
Same price
Same plan
Same EVERYTHING!

Just Smaller! If you want the big one, get the big one. If you like the smaller one get the nano.

Mmmmmyyeah. Guess not.

[zedsdead]

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=147837&d=1228901652

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=147838&d=1228901652

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=147839&stc=1&d=1228901652

http://www.frenchiphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/p1000964.jpg

I say it's real. I say it will have less features and will not require the data plan and will therefore grab a lot more consumers and drag them into the apple cell phone realm.

I usually don't comment much on the authenticity of mockups, but if it does exist it will probably look like this.

The photos show no Volume or Hold buttons which I think would be a weird thing to drop off the phone.

Also, if these are right, it would appear that there is no external speaker because the headphone jack is on the bottom right, while a mic has to be on the other side. (It could share the same internal speaker as the Touch...not that you could probably ever hear it ring).

The photo with it in the persons hand looks highly suspect.

[gkarris]

CONFLICTING INFO:

According to the case, the headphone jack is on top, and the pics above, the headphone jack is on the bottom... :eek:

[Andrew K.]

I love it when everybody jumps in on how horrible a design is based on rumors, then 3 weeks later when it actually comes out, all of the sudden its "fantastic" :rolleyes:

Exactly why I am waiting for it to come out before I make my full opinion known, but I think this would be great for teenagers though, they adapt to almost anything when it comes to technology ( I'm 20 so I know ), I think it'll have wifi but no data plan because most parents will not want to pay $100 a month but rather the regular $60 for 450 min ( teens don't call that much ) and unlimited text. That would make sense. Colors may be good too

[Andrew K.]

CONFLICTING INFO:

According to the case, the headphone jack is on top, and the pics above, the headphone jack is on the bottom... :eek:

It doesn't matter what the mock up for the case designers use. Of course apple wouldn't give them the actual design but the specs ONLY in order for the case companies to be ready to launch their products right after the release. These are just mock ups people! By the case companies! :D we'll see how it will look at macworld

[iNassar]

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=147837&d=1228901652

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=147838&d=1228901652

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=147839&stc=1&d=1228901652

http://www.frenchiphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/p1000964.jpg

I say it's real. I say it will have less features and will not require the data plan and will therefore grab a lot more consumers and drag them into the apple cell phone realm.

And I say FAKE.....

[aviationalyours]

And I say FAKE.....

And I second that. The pics are messed up. You mean the nano has an app store but no Safari????????

On another note we in Qatar still don't HAVE an iPhone.

[uncdwm]

Ahh I just bought an iPhone and it arrived yesterday - all of these pictures and rumors is making it hard for me to decide if I should open mine and activate it or wait a whole week until after the keynote.

What should I do? Is it a problem with AT&T if I wait a week+ to activate the phone that they shipped (will my rate plan auto start or get cancelled or something)? I don't know if I can wait a whole week or what me waiting to activate it would really accomplish - would I still have to pay the restocking fee? Even if I activate and use it I could still return within 30 day limit anyway right? Hmm decisions decisions...

[mcheng4]

Ahh I just bought an iPhone and it arrived yesterday - all of these pictures and rumors is making it hard for me to decide if I should open mine and activate it or wait a whole week until after the keynote.

What should I do? Is it a problem with AT&T if I wait a week+ to activate the phone that they shipped (will my rate plan auto start or get cancelled or something)? I don't know if I can wait a whole week or what me waiting to activate it would really accomplish - would I still have to pay the restocking fee? Even if I activate and use it I could still return within 30 day limit anyway right? Hmm decisions decisions...

I went to the Cingular store to pick up my iPhone that I was dearly waiting for as well...andddd I just couldnt do it. I didn't want to be punching myself in the face just one week later. I think you have to open and connect the phone to activate it. If you do want to wait, do NOT take it out of the shrinkwrap and you will NOT have to pay the restocking fee. That is only for people that use the phone for 30-days and decide that they do not like it. But YES, you have 30 days and can return it but will pay either $19 or $29 for restocking fee....as long as the "new verison" whatever thay may be gets into the store within 30 days of when you bought your phone.

[uncdwm]

I went to the Cingular store to pick up my iPhone that I was dearly waiting for as well...andddd I just couldnt do it. I didn't want to be punching myself in the face just one week later. I think you have to open and connect the phone to activate it. If you do want to wait, do NOT take it out of the shrinkwrap and you will NOT have to pay the restocking fee. That is only for people that use the phone for 30-days and decide that they do not like it. But YES, you have 30 days and can return it but will pay either $19 or $29 for restocking fee....as long as the "new verison" whatever thay may be gets into the store within 30 days of when you bought your phone.

thanks. do you know what the 14 day thing was? i thought i read somewhere it was 14 days on apple products and you pay restocking only if it is opened but then in the documents i got the only mention was 30 day return policy and automatic 10% restocking fee if you return within that period in like new condition and with all parts (no mention of it being opened or not)

also, i don't know if there are any repercussions if i just hold onto my iphone for another week without activating? will they start autobilling my monthly plan or cancel it or freak out or just wait for me to call them to activate?

[mcheng4]

thanks. do you know what the 14 day thing was? i thought i read somewhere it was 14 days on apple products and you pay restocking only if it is opened but then in the documents i got the only mention was 30 day return policy and automatic 10% restocking fee if you return within that period in like new condition and with all parts (no mention of it being opened or not)

also, i don't know if there are any repercussions if i just hold onto my iphone for another week without activating? will they start autobilling my monthly plan or cancel it or freak out or just wait for me to call them to activate?

14-day thing for cingular? they made it seem like everything relied on the receipt...so 30-days from the receipt and that does apply to the iPhone. They told me I had 30 days for the iPhone. However, that is nuts if you have to pay a restocking fee if it is opened so I would check with them.

I kno everything Cingular and Apple just effs is all up because they have the power to tell Cingular "Kiss it or we're going to Verizon" haha. So usually they activate it in the store, so yes you will start getting billed, but iPhone since they didnt do it in the store for you...I have no clue! Sorry I couldnt be of more help! I have a complicated situation with switching numbers with the phone and then leaving back to college right on the 6th, etc....Good luck!