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Vantagecb
Dec 25, 2008, 09:52 AM
Of course I got my new 2.4 macbook for christmas... What are the first things I should do?

I'm calibrating my battery right now, and then I want to reinstall the OS later to get rid of everything I won't use. Will I have to calibrate it again after?

And are there any ways to drain the battery faster? Do I have to stay on the macbook or can i just leave it and let it sleep?

Thanks! And Happy Holidays!



Tallest Skil
Dec 25, 2008, 09:53 AM
How would reinstalling what is already there get rid of what's there that you won't use?

Vantagecb
Dec 25, 2008, 09:54 AM
I heard reinstalling the OS allows you to not install all the extra languages I will never use.

Or is this totally wrong?

mynameisraj
Dec 25, 2008, 09:58 AM
I heard reinstalling the OS allows you to not install all the extra languages I will never use.

Or is this totally wrong?
Don't reinstall the OS, you'll get exactly what you started with :) Use Delocaliser or Trimmit to get rid of the extra languages. Unlike XP, Leopard doesn't come with bloatware.

Use AppCleaner to remove everything you don't want and also try Trimmit to trim your apps. One piece of advice - BACKUP VERY SOON because it's best to backup from the start.

I also believe the battery comes calibrated.

If you want some apps then just look around and be sure to check out today's MacHeist deal. I would advise that you get 1Password at the least. If you use iTunes get synergy, and if you like games I believe they have 3 of them. If you don't want to pay for apps there is pretty much always an alternative so I would advise that you look around :)

Enjoy your new MacBook! PM me if you need any other details :)

Happy Holidays

The Samurai
Dec 25, 2008, 10:05 AM
Worth pointing out at this stage that you may want to look into getting a case of some sort for this. It is a big investment, it may be worthwhile looking around to see which type of case/shield/protection looks good to you.

Speckproducts.com are one of the many companies who make cases for the Macbooks.

Vantagecb
Dec 25, 2008, 10:05 AM
I'm looking all over your profile and I cannot find out how to PM you.

I used Finder to look for Appcleaner and it did not find anything. Is there an equivalent to Add/Remove programs for Mac? Or do I install third party software such as Appcleaner?

And what exactly am I making a backup disc of? I already have the OS X Install DVD? When you made yours did you include other programs with it?

Solemony
Dec 25, 2008, 10:11 AM
Buy a case to protect your MB...You'll need it b/c you'll be sorry if your MB get any scratches or damage..

Vantagecb
Dec 25, 2008, 10:19 AM
Tomorrow i'll go to the apple store and pick one out - though it may be extremely crowded.

Is everyone recommending a case to put it in when just traveling or one that is always on?

ebika
Dec 25, 2008, 10:20 AM
I'm looking all over your profile and I cannot find out how to PM you.

I used Finder to look for Appcleaner and it did not find anything. Is there an equivalent to Add/Remove programs for Mac? Or do I install third party software such as Appcleaner?

And what exactly am I making a backup disc of? I already have the OS X Install DVD? When you made yours did you include other programs with it?

AppCleaner (http://www.freemacsoft.net/AppCleaner/)

mattyb240
Dec 25, 2008, 10:36 AM
If you want to rid of your extra languages use: Monolingual, just google it. Its free and worked well on my MBP when I got it!

There are always lots of free alternatives unless it is something specialist in which case you may have to bite the bullet and pay for something!

I would also recommend using Onyx every once and a while.

Enjoy your Mac!

therealdt
Dec 25, 2008, 11:14 AM
AppCleaner (http://www.freemacsoft.net/AppCleaner/)


What's the difference between this and Appdelete? I have Appdelete.

What other apps are good, I'm on a new Whitebook.

sorry for the hijack.

Vantagecb
Dec 25, 2008, 11:28 AM
What's the difference bewteen this and Appdelete? I have Appdelete.

What other apps are good, I'm on a new Whitebook.

sorry for the hijack.

it's cool. it helps me as well :)

JG271
Dec 25, 2008, 11:38 AM
VLC for playing videos and the like, either that or flip4mac for watching wmvs within quicktime.
Oh and worth calibrating the screen too.

GfulDedFan
Dec 25, 2008, 11:48 AM
@ Vantagecb -

Congrats on your new MacBook. It seems you have a problem letting go of how you had to treat windows based systems. Quit thinking about maintenance and start thinking about having fun with your computer. It's an excellent machine that's very inviting rather than the ones you're used to where half of the time you were using it, you had to perform mundane tasks to keep it running smoothly so that you can run more tasks to keep it running.... Kind of like a slave/host relationship. My MacBook is going on 3 years old and I don't think that I've done half the maintenance routines that you feel that you need to do right out of the box.

Chill, enjoy, and if you need help or advise post back and we'll lend a hand.

Congrats again -GDF

cellocello
Dec 25, 2008, 12:01 PM
@ Vantagecb -

Congrats on your new MacBook. It seems you have a problem letting go of how you had to treat windows based systems. Quit thinking about maintenance and start thinking about having fun with your computer. It's an excellent machine that's very inviting rather than the ones you're used to where half of the time you were using it, you had to perform mundane tasks to keep it running smoothly so that you can run more tasks to keep it running.... Kind of like a slave/host relationship. My MacBook is going on 3 years old and I don't think that I've done half the maintenance routines that you feel that you need to do right out of the box.

Chill, enjoy, and if you need help or advise post back and we'll lend a hand.

Congrats again -GDF

Yup. This.

I also recommend getting a sleeve. I'm not a big "hard plastic, permanent protection" kind of guy, but a nice sleek sleeve to put your MacBook in, before putting it backpack or something makes a lot of sense to me.

iObama
Dec 25, 2008, 12:10 PM
I'd reinstall OS X. In addition to the language removal (which can be done without reinstalling), you can also remove the multiple gigabytes of printer drivers you'll never use.

ebika
Dec 25, 2008, 12:28 PM
What's the difference between this and Appdelete? I have Appdelete.

What other apps are good, I'm on a new Whitebook.

sorry for the hijack.

They both do pretty much the same. In general, these apps look in the typical places for preference files and app support folders in your ~/Library folder. It is pretty easy to look in these folders manually too, but these cleaner programs automate it for you. Unless you give your admin credentials when you "install" (typically just copying an app from a dmg file to your Applications folder), applications can only store their settings and files in your home folder, of which most of it goes into ~/Library.

Harmless Abuse
Dec 25, 2008, 01:16 PM
Don't reinstall the OS, you'll get exactly what you started with :) Use Delocaliser or Trimmit to get rid of the extra languages. Unlike XP, Leopard doesn't come with bloatware.

Use AppCleaner to remove everything you don't want and also try Trimmit to trim your apps. One piece of advice - BACKUP VERY SOON because it's best to backup from the start.

I also believe the battery comes calibrated.

If you want some apps then just look around and be sure to check out today's MacHeist deal. I would advise that you get 1Password at the least. If you use iTunes get synergy, and if you like games I believe they have 3 of them. If you don't want to pay for apps there is pretty much always an alternative so I would advise that you look around :)

Enjoy your new MacBook! PM me if you need any other details :)

Happy Holidays

Windows doesn't come with bloatware... That's the manufacturer themselves.

If you were to grab a copy of XP or Vista, straight from Microsoft, it would have no bloatware.

A lot of companies, like Sony, are offering bloatware-free computers too.

PeterQC
Dec 25, 2008, 01:43 PM
A lot of companies, like Sony, are offering bloatware-free computers too.
But they generally offer it at a premium price/ask a fee to remove the bloat (they won't do it freely, since the bloat is actually a good way to make some money for the company).

Vantagecb
Dec 25, 2008, 02:06 PM
One person recommended to reinstall OS X. Anyone else? Is there a way to remove the printer drivers without reinstalling?

ebika
Dec 25, 2008, 02:15 PM
I'd recommend just leaving the base install as is. If you really need the space at some point, cross that bridge then.

mattyb240
Dec 25, 2008, 02:16 PM
One person recommended to reinstall OS X. Anyone else? Is there a way to remove the printer drivers without reinstalling?

If you are new mac user just go ahead and enjoy it for a little bit. I never thought I would need the printer drivers, until I had to use my friends 10 year old A0 plotter. To which he said "I have spent days looking for these drivers, your mac wont have them" and what do you know first time it worked!

SnowLeopard2008
Dec 25, 2008, 02:24 PM
^ yes there are. but it leaves stuff behind. I would say reinstall. Only takes about 30-40 minutes. Backup your data. Insert the disc, reboot, wait until you see the install starting and go grab a coffee from a local shop. Flirt with some girls/guys and come back. All done lol.

skye12
Dec 25, 2008, 02:32 PM
I'd leave the OS alone. Don't fix things that ain't broke.

skorpien
Dec 25, 2008, 02:38 PM
Being a 2.4 Alu MB, you're getting a stock 250 GB HDD with it. Are you really needing the extra space from the language packs/printer drivers? Or is it performance you're worried about? If it's the space, I say leave it be. Less hassle, and you can always install a bigger hard drive down the road. Being a new Mac user myself, I can't comment on whether performace would be affected by the extra files and drivers, but I'd imagine that it wouldn't be that much of a performance gain if they were removed.

therealdt
Dec 25, 2008, 02:44 PM
One person recommended to reinstall OS X. Anyone else? Is there a way to remove the printer drivers without reinstalling?


I'm new to this also, I say no. I did use something called Monolingual.

altair
Dec 25, 2008, 02:57 PM
Its a brand new machine, nothing on it of yours, why not do a new install and get rid of the stuff you don't want. Its not like its going to hurt anything.

Slightly off topic. Why is everyone using application deleters these days? What ever happened to just dragging the folder to the trash and not caring that there are 3kbs worth of inert preference files somewhere.

What if you want to delete Appdelete? Do you download another application deleter? Its a Mac, have fun. Don't make things more complicated than they have to be.

ebika
Dec 25, 2008, 04:44 PM
Its a brand new machine, nothing on it of yours, why not do a new install and get rid of the stuff you don't want. Its not like its going to hurt anything.

Slightly off topic. Why is everyone using application deleters these days? What ever happened to just dragging the folder to the trash and not caring that there are 3kbs worth of inert preference files somewhere.

What if you want to delete Appdelete? Do you download another application deleter? Its a Mac, have fun. Don't make things more complicated than they have to be.

Dragging the folder to the trash or dragging the folder to the app deleter. I don't see the difference in effort.

Solemony
Dec 25, 2008, 06:53 PM
Tomorrow i'll go to the apple store and pick one out - though it may be extremely crowded.

Is everyone recommending a case to put it in when just traveling or one that is always on?

You can try for a speck case that cover the outside of your MB or if you just want a bag to protect it..An Incase would be a nice choice :)

fuzzycuffs
Dec 25, 2008, 11:04 PM
When I got this machine (my very first mac), I had a lot of weird issues with it. Apps would crash a lot, the terminal would start up X11 for some reason (and no manner of looking in .bashrc or .profile or wherever would tell me why), so I just went and reinstalled from the disc. Everything seemed to work better.

So, +1 for reinstall.

isauce
Dec 26, 2008, 12:38 AM
Register your macbook through the Apply website and get the six month subscription to Macworld magazine. :D

alphaod
Dec 26, 2008, 01:35 AM
Before I even do the first boot, I perform the reinstall. It's really personal preference. Some people have said get a bigger HDD down the road which is a good idea. However the issue with that, I have is I already have the biggest available, what would I do? I would have to remove all the printer drivers and languages I'll never use.

So with that in mind, why not do the reinstall in the first place rather than perform it at a later stage and have to reinstall all the updates, re-enter serial numbers for software, etc.?

LeonAnderson
Dec 26, 2008, 01:43 PM
MB(P) Rev A Checklist

After you open the packaging box of the new MB(P):

Check the exterior finish for dents/imperfections/scratches
Check the backside to see if the battery cover fits well
Open up the screen and check the keyboard, make sure it is not crooked (especially the top row)
Check the battery indicator light on the left side
Check the glass cover on the screen for scratches/dents/imperfections
Turn it on and check Airport Extreme by connect to the Internet
Get the latest OS X update specifically for the unibody MBPs
Check for dead pixels using this link here
Check the trackpad clicks/gestures, as well as backlit keyboard
Check the internal temperatures using iStat Pro
Try switching GPUs and check internal temperatures using iStat Pro under both situations
Insert the OS X recovery disc into the SuperDrive and check the disc.
Insert a music CD into the SuperDrive and check for sound quality (any hissing or pops)
Put the MBP to sleep, check the sleep indicator light and whether there are any complications (eg. laptop remains hot)
Use it for a period of time and see if any of the above problems arise
Make sure your dvd/cd goes in straight
Make sure your screen doesn't flicker at different brightness levels
Install a game and check to see whether your macbooks shuts itself or the screen off
Check for any loose or missing screws along the bottom of the MacBook Pro, neer the Hinge.

LTX
Dec 26, 2008, 07:42 PM
Vantagecb: someone already suggested that you get some sort of case, so I recommend the Incase Neoprene sleeve (http://store.apple.com/us/product/TR632LL/A). I got the 15" one for MBP (http://store.apple.com/ca/product/TR035VC/A?mco=MTIxODk3Mw) (could only find on Canadian Apple Store) even though I only have a 13" Macbook, just because this one has handles and a shoulder strap. It's nice and furry-feeling inside, so it protects the Macbook well.

Also, LeonAnderson, I'm not entirely sure you wrote that list yourself: http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=6480081&postcount=2

Moocher
Dec 27, 2008, 08:48 PM
I'd reinstall OS X. In addition to the language removal (which can be done without reinstalling), you can also remove the multiple gigabytes of printer drivers you'll never use.

I just finished listening to a MacCast podcast which recommended AGAINST using anything like monolingual because it (they) has not been updated recently and has cause some Leopard problems. Instead, he recommended the reinstall custom option for the reasons above and because it is reliable and foolproof.

Mooch

cogsinister
Dec 27, 2008, 11:29 PM
Register your macbook through the Apply website and get the six month subscription to Macworld magazine. :D

What website ?

skorpien
Dec 28, 2008, 02:18 AM
What website ?

Apple website. http://www.apple.com/register/

KyPosey
Dec 28, 2008, 02:31 AM
Log on here and bitch about how many flaws you have.

:D

cogsinister
Dec 28, 2008, 09:41 AM
Apple website. http://www.apple.com/register/

Thanks, got my free 12 month electronic sub to Macworld !!!

cogsinister
Dec 28, 2008, 09:41 AM
Log on here and bitch about how many flaws you have.

:D

You know what ?

I just cant find a single flaw with my new 2.4 ally MB...........

tsice19
Dec 28, 2008, 09:57 AM
Don't reinstall the OS. You may want those drivers. However, do you want every language ever written? http://monolingual.sourceforge.net/

No1451
Dec 28, 2008, 09:57 AM
First of all, check for any issues, second, calibrate your screen.

The one I use can be found here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=588431&highlight=spyder&page=2), post #43, you can find info in that thread on how to apply it.

After that, start finding software you're going to want, IRC client, FTP, brower, burning apps.


Have fun with your new shiny box:).

KyPosey
Dec 28, 2008, 10:03 AM
You know what ?

I just cant find a single flaw with my new 2.4 ally MB...........

nor can i find one with my MB haha we are lucky :D