CoD4 Are people using cheats/hacks?

[MowingDevil]

Now granted I'm rather new to the game...but I swear to God man some guys seem to be running some kind of hack....where they always know where you are even if its through walls, floors etc Watching the "replay" of what happened sometimes there's no way they could have seen you there....I've also seen other players get grenades thrown at them BEFORE they came into view. Maybe some guys are just pathetically good (you know, don't have any life except for playing) or else there's some kind of cheat going on that I don't know about. Just sayin.'

[Schtumple]

They're just that good...

[JollyRogers]

Some are just that good. Online, once you have enough kills, you get a radar for enemy location I think also. I do believe that some are using aimbots and other hacks to be "that" good. Kind of turns you off of the game online doesn't it?

[ZacUSNYR]

Can't speak for that game. But I use to be a huge Quake 2 addict back in the day.

When you play a game enough - you learn the maps. I use to get my "lines" down and i'd lodge rockets against walls and throw grenades around corners. Every time you didn't get a kill, but there was that random time someone was right there and walks right into it. You learn where people like to feel like they are safe. So you can go there for a free frag. Etc etc....

[DarthTreydor]

That was probably me. And yes, I really am that good. :D

[xparaparafreakx]

I am so sorry that you ran into me.

Yes we know where you spawn. I kill three people with the purpose of getting a UAV. I kill two more for a nice airstrike where your spawn. And with that, two more kills, if you try to run away from me, my helicopter will get you.

Guns do shoot through walls. UAV tells us where to shoot.

[iOrlando]

yeah i been playing COD4 for 4 weeks now...you eventually learn where to stand/throw grenades...like the map where there is a construction site type building...you go on the second floor and basically you overlook the spawning area of the other team...so you basically just throw grendades and shoot ...and its pretty easy to get the 6 streak etc...and then it becomes that much more easy to keep getting the kill streaks...

[Mackilroy]

As the others have been saying, if you've been playing for a while you know there are places which will give you an advantage on the enemy - and there's random grenade-throwing, the turrets on occasional levels, bullets that go through walls, the ever-loved-and-hated UAV, and so on. I've been killed numerous times by people who couldn't have known I was there, and they didn't - they turn around or get shot and have the Martyrdom perk on, or somesuch.

[ernestc]

I havn't played it on the mac, mainly because it came out a full year after the xbox 360 and PS3.

However in saying that I spent way too much time on the game online and have over 100,000 kills.

Trust me, you get to the point you know every inch of every map and every single spawn point and places to throw grenades over buildings because you know people are running a line behind them etc. Like you said some people like myself have no life (well I didn't for a while lol). You start getting huge scores. I have gone 119 for 12 on bog (headquarters), 93 for 18 on vacant (domination), 138 for 38 on shipment (headquarters) etc etc. No cheats, no aim assists or anything like that.

[ChrisN]

Especially on SD you wanna stay back a bit and not rush right away because people just throw nades and make it rain.

ChrisN

[Samuelllll]

My mate is the best in Europe at HALO 3 ... "vVv Vard".. and hes in the top 20 of COD4... some people are just seriously good at shoot-em-up games i guess lol!!

[bobfitz14]

That was probably me. And yes, I really am that good. :D

haha, don't be modest or anything:p

and OP you can kill people through walls on COD4, unlike Halo 3.

[Infrared]

Any game with a large and competitive following will have
some cheats. You only need to search on youtube to find
many examples. That said, cod4 is a bastion of honesty
compared to, say, Counter-Strike where cheating is rife.
And if someone does get you with an aimbot, you don't
have to wait for minutes to respawn in cod4, which is nice :)

[MowingDevil]

Some are just that good. Online, once you have enough kills, you get a radar for enemy location I think also. I do believe that some are using aimbots and other hacks to be "that" good. Kind of turns you off of the game online doesn't it?

Actually ya it does to be quite honest. I'll never spend that kind of time to be THAT good nor do I have any interest in hacks whatsoever. I finished the campaign and just wanted to try out the online aspect of it. Not nearly as fun at all. In the game there's some strategy and planning involved...online it just seems like PacMan-eque patterns.

Seriously, if you do get THAT good, how is it ever any fun anymore? Unless it feeds the ego somehow I don't get it.

Is there any "co-operative" online play that goes through campaign like scenerios at all? I've never liked the run around kill 75x type online (Quake) gameplay.

haha, don't be modest or anything:p

and OP you can kill people through walls on COD4, unlike Halo 3.

Ya I knew that. Its just this one time I was up in a building walking around and (after seeing the replay) the guy who killed me was aiming through his ceiling/my floor and wiped me out. There's no way in hell he could have known I was there that I can figure out other than he had some kind of radar or something going on...and I wasn't shooting yet either so I wouldn't have shown up on the screen, I was walking from one room to the other. He knew *exactly* where to shoot and it wasn't like he was spraying the ceiling, it was pretty much a direct shot w/ a machine gun.

[pianoplayer1]

Ya I knew that. Its just this one time I was up in a building walking around and (after seeing the replay) the guy who killed me was aiming through his ceiling/my floor and wiped me out. There's no way in hell he could have known I was there that I can figure out other than he had some kind of radar or something going on...and I wasn't shooting yet either so I wouldn't have shown up on the screen, I was walking from one room to the other. He knew *exactly* where to shoot and it wasn't like he was spraying the ceiling, it was pretty much a direct shot w/ a machine gun.


Well lets say he had the UAV on his team. He would see an orange dot right on his location, but you werent next to him, so he would assume that you were right above him. So he would shoot up.

[pinksta]

Actually ya it does to be quite honest. I'll never spend that kind of time to be THAT good nor do I have any interest in hacks whatsoever. I finished the campaign and just wanted to try out the online aspect of it. Not nearly as fun at all. In the game there's some strategy and planning involved...online it just seems like PacMan-eque patterns.

Seriously, if you do get THAT good, how is it ever any fun anymore? Unless it feeds the ego somehow I don't get it.

Is there any "co-operative" online play that goes through campaign like scenerios at all? I've never liked the run around kill 75x type online (Quake) gameplay.



Ya I knew that. Its just this one time I was up in a building walking around and (after seeing the replay) the guy who killed me was aiming through his ceiling/my floor and wiped me out. There's no way in hell he could have known I was there that I can figure out other than he had some kind of radar or something going on...and I wasn't shooting yet either so I wouldn't have shown up on the screen, I was walking from one room to the other. He knew *exactly* where to shoot and it wasn't like he was spraying the ceiling, it was pretty much a direct shot w/ a machine gun.

If you wait many years till Cod5 gets ported to mac(Or just install boot camp and play it now!) then there is a co-op mode in that where 4 players can play the missions together. It also has something called zombie Nazis where up to 4 of you have to fight off ever increasing zombie hordes from the building you are in, its great fun.

As for the guy knowing where you are, you're forgetting SOUND-you can tell where people are from that.

[bobfitz14]

Ya I knew that. Its just this one time I was up in a building walking around and (after seeing the replay) the guy who killed me was aiming through his ceiling/my floor and wiped me out. There's no way in hell he could have known I was there that I can figure out other than he had some kind of radar or something going on...and I wasn't shooting yet either so I wouldn't have shown up on the screen, I was walking from one room to the other. He knew *exactly* where to shoot and it wasn't like he was spraying the ceiling, it was pretty much a direct shot w/ a machine gun.

what gametype were you playing? i'm not a COD4, for lack of a better word, "pro" but i do enjoy playing it, so i don't know if it matters what game you were playing or what to have like the enemy radar through kill streaks or whatnot.

[MowingDevil]

Well lets say he had the UAV on his team. He would see an orange dot right on his location, but you werent next to him, so he would assume that you were right above him. So he would shoot up.

What is that, the radar you can unlock? If so that makes sense.

If you wait many years till Cod5 gets ported to mac(Or just install boot camp and play it now!) then there is a co-op mode in that where 4 players can play the missions together. It also has something called zombie Nazis where up to 4 of you have to fight off ever increasing zombie hordes from the building you are in, its great fun.

As for the guy knowing where you are, you're forgetting SOUND-you can tell where people are from that.

Good point.

So I take it there's no co-op mode for v.4 then. Too bad, that would be fun.
I'm not going to hold my breath on 5.

what gametype were you playing? i'm not a COD4, for lack of a better word, "pro" but i do enjoy playing it, so i don't know if it matters what game you were playing or what to have like the enemy radar through kill streaks or whatnot.

I've just joined a few online games (deathmatch & ffa) but haven't explored anything past that yet.

[Mackilroy]

What is that, the radar you can unlock? If so that makes sense.
Once you get three kills, you automatically get a UAV which provides radar to every member of your team. You can become invisible from it, but that's not until later levels (one of the unlockables).

[MowingDevil]

Once you get three kills, you automatically get a UAV which provides radar to every member of your team. You can become invisible from it, but that's not until later levels (one of the unlockables).

I just unlocked the "invisible" option and enabled it...doesn't seem to make a difference. Guys pick me off even if I'm hidden in some bush or just around the corner as if the radar is still picking me up. Of course, I'm really bad so that might be it.

[oli2140]

So, keeping on the subject of COD, who like me, can't stand non-hardcore??

Also, can mac players play on windows servers? (i play via bootcamp)

[Mackilroy]

I've gotten good use out of it, but I'll tell you why they can still find you - unless you have a surprised weapon, when you fire they can see your location on the minimap. Easy enough to pinpoint and nail you.

As far as Mac and PC users playing together, I believe they can.

[MowingDevil]

Fair enough, I've been playing long enough now to know how to find people based on the mini-map......that said every now & then someone kills you when you know there's no way they could have seen you or there was no time for them to react and find you.

...do a little search on YouTube and you'll find people using hacks like Aimbot & Wallhack among others.
Known Cheater caught (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOvHdMLYvWY&feature=related)
Wallhack (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48djooNhvBU&feature=related)
Aimbot & Wallhack (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDbQ_mfFggc&feature=related)
Colored Wallhack (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdahMlUX2bc&feature=related)

....just to name a few. Now I have no proof these were used against me in games....I'm just saying there's been some rather peculiar instances....like being hidden in prone in a bush w/o camo on and some guy comes around the corner and tosses a grenade at you...when he couldn't have seen you there and did it all in one motion w/o even looking around.

So are these hacks just for Xbox and PS3 or are they for PC and Mac as well? Do console users play against computer users or are they on different servers?

You can usually tell if someone is just lucky w/ a fluke shot, really that good or cheating when you review on the kill cam. I think its fairly obvious. I haven't witnessed anyone like that Adolf Hitler user who got 108 kills w/ the next closest user had about 30. Either way, cheaters are sad, pathetic losers. You'd think they'd do bug fixes to prevent the cheat codes from working...or do they like how people make cheat codes for their games?

[MattZani]

Well, on 360, i played it since release, and yes, as a sniper, i knew where to aim after spawn, as people always run the same way.

Grenades over buildings are easy too, as people always hide in certain corners.

You just learn it naturally, as you play more and more, you figure out how every weapon reacts, and your new to a fairly old game, so its no surprise your getting raped, as the casuals have left (That and your on PC) so its going to be fairly hard to get better when your playing with competition above your level.

Also, There are no Hacks for the Console Games, which is all i have experienced, and i have experienced what you are explaining.

They could also be Sound Whoring, where they can hear you round the corner, ever if your barely moving, reloading, scoping up, everything makes a noise, and some good headphones can let you hear this. Essential for Competitive play.

PC Gamers play with PC Gamers, Ps3 Gamers play with PS3 Gamers, 360 Gamers play with 360 Gamers.

You could also be experiencing lag, and how unaccurate the killcam is, its about half a second slow, so you can watch yourself die when you are round a corner etc. This phenomenon has be called 'Curving Bullets' because Lag makes it seem like they can shoot round corners.

[MowingDevil]

So the hacks are just in the PC versions? According to google there are several console hacks, not sure if they're the big ones or not.

I know what you're saying...and I've gotten better at doing stuff like anticipating; I get kills by blindly throwing grenades in calculated areas. It goes beyond that though. Those videos linked above have nothing to do w/ experience.

I can't wear earphones in this game, even on a volume setting of 1 it gives me ringing in the ears.....is there an option to turn down the explosions and gunfire sounds so you can hear the movement noise more? I gotta say, anyone who has the overall volume loud enough to hear people reloading and walking around on the wood floors is going to have MAJOR hearing issues down the road.

[waiwai]

People seem to think that if someone playing a FPS game is good, they are either:

1. Hacking
2. Play the game 24/7 and have no life
3. Talented

People like to side with the top 2 because it makes them feel less embarassed that they are not as good as they think they are, so them being owned by a hacker or a geek is no biggy. It's easy to call someone a hacker or a geek, but its tough to admit you just aren't as good. Just face it... There will always be people who are legitamately better than you at a game, and no it doesn't mean they are hacking or they play it like their life depended on it, they are just good. I'm not saying there are absolutely no hackers and geeks, there will always be those people who fit in those demographics... but there are also a lot of talented people too.

It all depends on how you are able to learn and adapt to the gameplay.

[Schtumple]

People seem to think that if someone playing a FPS game is good, they are either:

1. Hacking
2. Play the game 24/7 and have no life
3. Talented

People like to side with the top 2 because it makes them feel less embarassed that they are not as good as they think they are, so them being owned by a hacker or a geek is no biggy. It's easy to call someone a hacker or a geek, but its tough to admit you just aren't as good. Just face it... There will always be people who are legitamately better than you at a game, and no it doesn't mean they are hacking or they play it like their life depended on it, they are just good. I'm not saying there are absolutely no hackers and geeks, there will always be those people who fit in those demographics... but there are also a lot of talented people too.

It all depends on how you are able to learn and adapt to the gameplay.

Exactly, I play Halo 3 whenever I'm bored, and I get around 1/4 - 1/2 of all kills in the game, that doesn't mean to say I play it all the time, I've just been playing it for several years, on and off. Over time you just pick little things up you didn't notice before, that some people know about, but some people don't, hence why some people can seem incredibly good compared to others, just takes time, or online tip sheets :p

[Sdashiki]

When you are "hidden" even from radar...the way EYE see you is just to stand there and keep looking.

You move a single pixel, I know someone is there, and I fire.

Works everytime.

[iOrlando]

There are hacks for COD4.

One hack lets you kill people on your team. (you will notice if its happens) usually, once a stage starts( first 2 seconds)..you look and see 3-4 people just got killed with a bomb...you hear no guns..and you know the two teams aren't in sight yet of each other. If you are able to catch the name of the person who got the points from the kill...keep an eye on it...throughout the rest of the round you will notice they only kill via bombs. This person then changes from team to team throughout the round that way one team doesn't win real quick.

[waiwai]

There are hacks for COD4.

(-__-") ... no way!

[MowingDevil]

People seem to think that if someone playing a FPS game is good, they are either:

1. Hacking
2. Play the game 24/7 and have no life
3. Talented

People like to side with the top 2 because it makes them feel less embarassed that they are not as good as they think they are, so them being owned by a hacker or a geek is no biggy. It's easy to call someone a hacker or a geek, but its tough to admit you just aren't as good. Just face it... There will always be people who are legitamately better than you at a game, and no it doesn't mean they are hacking or they play it like their life depended on it, they are just good. I'm not saying there are absolutely no hackers and geeks, there will always be those people who fit in those demographics... but there are also a lot of talented people too.

It all depends on how you are able to learn and adapt to the gameplay.

I think you may be jumping to conclusions here, I wasn't whining because I'm not a "pro" gamer. I've played enough to know a few things and have seen things that don't add up is all. Did you watch those YouTube clips I provided. Those cleared a few things up for me. I think its a bit rare but it happens. The people with no life imo are gamers using hacks & cheats.

There are hacks for COD4.

One hack lets you kill people on your team. (you will notice if its happens) usually, once a stage starts( first 2 seconds)..you look and see 3-4 people just got killed with a bomb...you hear no guns..and you know the two teams aren't in sight yet of each other. If you are able to catch the name of the person who got the points from the kill...keep an eye on it...throughout the rest of the round you will notice they only kill via bombs. This person then changes from team to team throughout the round that way one team doesn't win real quick.

That might explain why when we were starting out at the very beginning of the game last night one of my teammates just fell to the ground dead...it was like he was knifed...or perhaps he left after the game had already begun.

[asphyxiafeeling]

Now granted I'm rather new to the game...but I swear to God man some guys seem to be running some kind of hack....where they always know where you are even if its through walls, floors etc Watching the "replay" of what happened sometimes there's no way they could have seen you there....I've also seen other players get grenades thrown at them BEFORE they came into view. Maybe some guys are just pathetically good (you know, don't have any life except for playing) or else there's some kind of cheat going on that I don't know about. Just sayin.'

I've hardly run into cheaters on COD4 online, as long as you play on punkbuster servers. in fact, i'd say part of COD4s community are a bunch of babies anyway, every other server has martyrdom/grenade launcher banned because players can't handle them.

are you a big time gamer? maybe you're just not as used to playing games and are just being owned by better players. i'm absolutely not trying to insult you saying that either, please don't feel that way. i've just seen non-gamer friends say the same thing to me before.

[MowingDevil]

I've hardly run into cheaters on COD4 online, as long as you play on punkbuster servers. in fact, i'd say part of COD4s community are a bunch of babies anyway, every other server has martyrdom/grenade launcher banned because players can't handle them.

are you a big time gamer? maybe you're just not as used to playing games and are just being owned by better players. i'm absolutely not trying to insult you saying that either, please don't feel that way. i've just seen non-gamer friends say the same thing to me before.

I'm no hard-core gamer...don't have the time nor want to....however, I'm decent at a few games and do play recreationally and sometimes on a regular basis. I know enough abo games to know the difference between someone who is the man and someone who's possibly in the hack territory. I don't mind at all getting owned if a guy really is that good. Fair enough.

How do you know if you're on a punkbuster server?
I've seen the babies in one server who kicked any player who used last stand/martyrdom/grenade launcher. Yep, cry babies.

[ethical]

what class do you guys use?

I'm loving:
Silenced M4 Carbine (invisible on radar)
Golden Desert Eagle and Last Stand
3x frag
Deep Impact

I wouldnt call myself a pro, but i'm usually in the top 5 for my team on a server with 50 players.


p.s. I hate martyrdom!

[Infrared]

When you are "hidden" even from radar...the way EYE see you is just to stand there and keep looking.

You move a single pixel, I know someone is there, and I fire.

Works everytime.

Could be a leaf. Do you shoot a lot of leaves? ;)

[Titus Pullo]

PC Gamers play with PC Gamers, Ps3 Gamers play with PS3 Gamers, 360 Gamers play with 360 Gamers.

Hiya everybody. I'm new to this forum.

Anyway, I assume that MattZani includes Mac Gamers in the category of "PC Gamers," but for those who don't know the COD4 1.7 patch lets Mac users play cross platform with PC users.

Yeah, we had a hacker ("matty") on a hardcore server I was playing on a couple of evenings ago. And PB wasn't even kicking him!

A question: sometimes when I shoot somebody in COD4 at point blank range, right square in his torso, and he doesn't get killed; then he shoots a millisecond later, and I'm dead. Why is that? Is it because the other guy has a faster computer?

[xparaparafreakx]

Hiya everybody. I'm new to this forum.

Anyway, I assume that MattZani includes Mac Gamers in the category of "PC Gamers," but for those who don't know the COD4 1.7 patch lets Mac users play cross platform with PC users.

Yeah, we had a hacker ("matty") on a hardcore server I was playing on a couple of evenings ago. And PB wasn't even kicking him!

A question: sometimes when I shoot somebody in COD4 at point blank range, right square in his torso, and he doesn't get killed; then he shoots a millisecond later, and I'm dead. Why is that? Is it because the other guy has a faster computer?

Lag?

[TheSpaz]

I have the Mac version of the game and I jumped right to level 55 the other night. I was at 42 or so. Try it out. If you want to know how I did it, you'll have to email me or something.

If you have AIM, you can IM me and I'll let you in on the secret.

By the way...I've seen so many people using Aim Bots on COD4... they're really annoying. The great thing is, if you watch the Kill Cam, you can see that there's no way a human can aim and shoot that quickly and kill every time.

Here's my favorite setup:

I slaughter with this gun

M4 Carbine with Red Dot Laser
Perk 1: Bandoiler
Perk 2: Stopping Power (don't use any gun without this perk)
Perk 3: Dead Silence

I also enjoy the G36 with Stopping Power and Dead Silence... it seems to kill quickly.

[TheSpaz]

Wanna know another cool trick?

During the game, open the console (press the ~ key) and type this:

cg_fov 85

This will give you a much wider range of view so you can see your enemies better.

[fblack]

Hiya everybody. I'm new to this forum.

Yeah, we had a hacker ("matty") on a hardcore server I was playing on a couple of evenings ago. And PB wasn't even kicking him!

A question: sometimes when I shoot somebody in COD4 at point blank range, right square in his torso, and he doesn't get killed; then he shoots a millisecond later, and I'm dead. Why is that? Is it because the other guy has a faster computer?

PB won't catch everyone doing stuff, cheats get updated and it takes PB time to respond with its own update. Even then it won't catch every thing.

If you shoot somebody, but they still kill you it could be for any number of reasons. Did they have juggernaut on? which weapon did you use? Were you playing hardcore or regular? All that could affect the outcome.

Yes a faster computer helps, but a faster computer won't do much if you have a lousy connection to the server you are playing on or a slow internet connection in general. If your connection is a bit slower than your opponents what you see on your screen might be a second or two behind what your opponent is seeing. You see yourself shooting him, but he may be seeing himself kill you. If the killcam option is on you will usually see the discrepancy between what you thought you did and how it actually played out.
Clear?:D

Say hi to Vorenus for us Pullo.;)

[oli2140]

So.. whose got the highest kdr? ;)

I'll start with 3.2 on a reasonably nooby server and 2 on a pro server

[Titus Pullo]

You're absolutely right, fblack, PB won't catch all the cheats and hacks, at least not immediately.

I try to spectate when I suspect that there are cheaters on the server, but that option is not always enabled on the server, and it doesn't always let you watch every player even when it is on.

I play hardcore servers, but my fire-lag problem happens regardless of the perks my opponent has. It doesn't happen all the time, but enough to be frustrating.

However, I think I've managed to solve my fire-lag problem (not just by improving my skill). First, I changed config settings through the console in order to improve my fps. Next, by doing some research on internet I discovered that the response rate of one's display can be an important factor in one's ability to respond in FPS games. Based on the tech info out there, it seems that the response time of the monitor of my MacBook Pro (Intel Core 2 processor, 2.2 GHz, NVidia 8600 GT with 128 MB...) is a shocking 25 ms!!! That absolutely sucks for FPS gaming. So, after some more research, and a careful consideration of what amount of money I was willing to shell out for my occasional "hobby," I decided to buy an external monitor, but a CRT monitor. Yesterday, for hardly anything, I bought a iiyama CRT 1451 19" external monitor. After I had figured out the best settings, COD4 looked absolutely stunning, even at a lower res than what I was playing it on my laptop. On the external, I have the res. set at 1280 x 960 @ 90Hz.

I am convinced that this monitor (which has a response time that is almost negligible, as compared to 2ms for more expensive LCD displays), combined with the console reconfigurations I made, has helped solve the shooting-lag problem I was experiencing. Now, when I shoot first (and aim square on), I kill first. In yesterday evening's gaming I was consistently in the bottom top third of my team (TDM), and I even won a couple of rounds of Killhouse Free-for-All.

To tie it back to the topic of this thread, I've spectated players who I thought were cheating (because they were always killing me even when I thought I pulled the trigger first), and I saw that they were simply spectacular players. However, hardware and game settings also have a big role to play in enabling you to develop your skill without these kinds of frustrations. Now that my hardware is more or less sorted out, I can concentrate on improving my skills as an occasional player, without being put off by these little irritations.

[fblack]

You're absolutely right, fblack, PB won't catch all the cheats and hacks, at least not immediately.

Based on the tech info out there, it seems that the response time of the monitor of my MacBook Pro (Intel Core 2 processor, 2.2 GHz, NVidia 8600 GT with 128 MB...) is a shocking 25 ms!!!

Wow 25ms really?! :eek: That is very, very slow. I'm surprised you didn't get any ghosting on the screen or tearing even. That's good intel thanks for letting us know about it. I wonder if that response time has improved with the latest Macbook-pro models? Probably not, my understanding is that the better quality panels for color reproduction are slower. Hmmm...interesting.

[TheSpaz]

Wow 25ms really?! :eek: That is very, very slow. I'm surprised you didn't get any ghosting on the screen or tearing even. That's good intel thanks for letting us know about it. I wonder if that response time has improved with the latest Macbook-pro models? Probably not, my understanding is that the better quality panels for color reproduction are slower. Hmmm...interesting.

What's the response time of a 20" Apple Cinema Display? Edit: 16ms... I just looked it up.

[SecondDealer]

It's important to understand how much some people play games such as COD4, back in the day I was horribly addicted to computer games and although I can now control it better I still have played over 72 hours of COD4 in a few short months. This being said, many people are insanely good but some people may actually be cheating. Say something in public chat or to your team and see what their opinions of the player in question are, more heads = better opinions.

[Titus Pullo]

One of the moves that often still leaves me gob smacked is the "round-the-corner jump, shoot, and kill." The part that always either impresses me or gives me a feeling of deep suspicion is when someone jumps out of nowhere and is able to shoot and kill me with deadly accuracy, using just one shot.

I'm not denying that, with a lot of practice, such a move can't be manually perfected. I recently bought a Belkin n52te speedpad, which in my opinion is superior to using the keyboard because, amongst other things, it makes such moves easier to execute. However, while I can certainly jump around corners now and so surprise my opponent and then take him off balance by dodging rapidly into his flank, I do need to fire at least two times before I hit him. However, I've come up against some guys who can't possibly know I'm hiding behind the barrel around that corner, but nevertheless they jump and shoot--and I'm dead right away, sometimes from a head shot. Again, I'm not denying that practice can make perfect, but I'm suspecting that at least some of those players are using an aimbot. Don't you think?

[Supersonic]

One thing I miss in COD that was in MoH, was the ability to spectate and move around the map.

In COD, you're stuck in one location and if you're trying to watch and learn, or maybe follow a squad about the map, then once they're out of your immediate view, youre stuck. Pity that, it was a good tactic in MoH

[TheSpaz]

One thing I miss in COD that was in MoH, was the ability to spectate and move around the map.

In COD, you're stuck in one location and if you're trying to watch and learn, or maybe follow a squad about the map, then once they're out of your immediate view, youre stuck. Pity that, it was a good tactic in MoH

Umm no. In spectator mode, you can use w, s, a, and d to move around and q, and e to move up and down. I know that this works because I do it all the time.

[Supersonic]

Umm no. In spectator mode, you can use w, s, a, and d to move around and q, and e to move up and down. I know that this works because I do it all the time.

Interesting....that definatley doesnt work for me....I did think it was an odd thing to remove from the game but never mind...

Strange-o-rama....

[Mackilroy]

It depends on what server you're on.

[Mr. lax]

So the hacks are just in the PC versions? According to google there are several console hacks, not sure if they're the big ones or not..

You're misunderstanding what a "console" hack is, its not a hack for the console versions of the games. When you press the tilde button ~ on the keyboard it brings up the console, in that menu is where you can enter the hacks, cheats, whatever.

Just my understanding based on years of gaming, i don't know if this is how it specifically works in the COD4 game.

[TheSpaz]

You're misunderstanding what a "console" hack is, its not a hack for the console versions of the games. When you press the tilde button ~ on the keyboard it brings up the console, in that menu is where you can enter the hacks, cheats, whatever.

Just my understanding based on years of gaming, i don't know if this is how it specifically works in the COD4 game.

Press the ~ button and type: /r_drawdecals 0

You'll get a much faster framerate, but a lot of servers will kick you if you've done this. To get it back to normal again, just change the 0 to 1.

Have fun! I play in BadAssGamers server all the time.. Maybe you'll see me there. They won't kick you for using that console code either. Happy gaming!

[dafootballer]

a few cool hints awesome :) yeah i hate aimbots its very obvious when someone is using one theyll be able to shoot through walls and no EXACTLY where you are