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pacoarango
Jun 10, 2002, 03:28 PM
Apple has to come out with something new at NY this summer. DDR memory is exciting but not enough, neither is 1.2 or 1.4 new G4. So what will it be? They have to surprise us with something new, they need the news and the money....



britboy
Jun 10, 2002, 03:41 PM
Do you really think so? Switching to DDR-266, with a 400MHz jump per processor, is a huge increase in power. Do you not think that would be enough to grab some headlines? I do.

Perhaps they will release jaguar. I'm not expecting that though.

Megaquad
Jun 10, 2002, 03:43 PM
thats right,apple will sell webcam and videoconferencing software with every mac
and that DDR thing..i mean..imacs and ibooks should have pc2100 and pmacs and pbook pc2700 ram but thats okay,motorola is responsible for that

topicolo
Jun 10, 2002, 03:46 PM
I see a set top box that plays mp3s from itunes, does slideshows from iphoto, plays movies made from imovie, and does web browsing all on your tv using airport to connect to your mac. It'll be Apple's XBOX :-).

I hope. ;)

Megaquad
Jun 10, 2002, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by Megaquad
thats right,apple will sell webcam and videoconferencing software with every mac
and that DDR thing..i mean..imacs and ibooks should have pc2100 and pmacs and pbook pc2700 ram but thats okay,motorola is responsible for that
like i always say,XMac ;)

King Cobra
Jun 10, 2002, 04:22 PM
If Apple ever does come out with a gaming system similar to craXbox I would like to see it be called the iPlay. BTW, I do not think such a product would come out.

Besides, I think you guys are too focused on the PowerMac being a huge upgrade. Apple does also have the iMac G4, which should still be selling very well. I would expect this to get maybe a 1GHz processor upgrade.

As for a 17 inch monitor attached to it, I have no idea. But the thought of possible new monitors using newer and cheaper technology makes me wonder if Apple plans to upgrade their current line of monitors with better and cheaper technology so that a cheap 17 inch monitor can be attached to the iMac. Again, I am speculating.
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sonofeyelikeart
Jun 10, 2002, 05:23 PM
I think that the big announcement at MW will be an Apple PDA. That's the only thing that makes sense. Apple has updated most of their products already so they won't take attention away from the big surprise at MW.... the iWalk!!!!

Rower_CPU
Jun 10, 2002, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by sonofeyelikeart
I think that the big announcement at MW will be an Apple PDA. That's the only thing that makes sense. Apple has updated most of their products already so they won't take attention away from the big surprise at MW.... the iWalk!!!!

You're cruisin' for a bruisin' there, sonny...

Wait 'til eye' sees this one!:rolleyes:

ShaolinMiddleFinger
Jun 10, 2002, 07:19 PM
Apple will come out with a computer that will always have free hardware upgrades for as long as you own it. How much will it cost? Only $10,000. For free hardware as long as I own it, I'd buy it!:p

topicolo
Jun 10, 2002, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by King Cobra
If Apple ever does come out with a gaming system similar to craXbox I would like to see it be called the iPlay. BTW, I do not think such a product would come out.

Besides, I think you guys are too focused on the PowerMac being a huge upgrade. Apple does also have the iMac G4, which should still be selling very well. I would expect this to get maybe a 1GHz processor upgrade.

As for a 17 inch monitor attached to it, I have no idea. But the thought of possible new monitors using newer and cheaper technology makes me wonder if Apple plans to upgrade their current line of monitors with better and cheaper technology so that a cheap 17 inch monitor can be attached to the iMac. Again, I am speculating.
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I don't think apple would come out with a gaming system either, that's why I said they would come out with a set-top box. It'll be like one of those TiVo/replayTV things, but it'll do all those other things I mentioned. I bet it'll be based on a G3 too, just to get rid of their excess stock :-).
Maybe it'll have a wacom style tablet and you'll be able to use that new messenger program with natural handwriting? :rolleyes:

Gatorman
Jun 10, 2002, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by britboy
Perhaps they will release jaguar. I'm not expecting that though.


Nah, I don't think so. OS 9 to OS X was one thing, but this is a little different. From what I've been loooking at, Jaguar is not as much as an overhall as the latter. It's probably going to be something big. Besides the iMac, Apple hasn't had anything huge since the G4, in my opinion. The time is right.

King Cobra
Jun 10, 2002, 08:54 PM
Actually, Rower, I think that sonofeye is not going to like what his big man has to say about another PDA rumor....

Mr. Eyelikeart must be having nightmares right now. Eye, just take two of these and call me in the morning :)
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Durandal7
Jun 10, 2002, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by King Cobra

Mr. Eyelikeart must be having nightmares right now. Eye, just take two of these and call me in the morning :)


Just where does that pill go? It looks too big to swallow :) .

King Cobra
Jun 10, 2002, 09:05 PM
Those pills are too big?

Well, now that you know what is written on it, here is the real size... :D
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Cappy
Jun 10, 2002, 11:43 PM
Keep in mind that this is MacWorld. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but has Apple ever intro'd a non-Mac OS based product at a MacWorld? That might sound silly but I have my doubts about the pda unless it's some sort of Mac OS based portable device that Apple probably won't call a pda.

It wouldn't surprise me to see a cpu bump on the eMac or a price drop of the current config. I think it'll be all about new PowerMacs and Jaguar for the most part. I also don't see any rumored Apple branded pvr being announced. That's more of a consumer item that would likely get its own intro.

There will probably be many folks disappointed with this show. I'm hoping they pull something out of the hat with something like dual channel ddr but I have my doubts. That would be a pretty big jump.

Hemingray
Jun 11, 2002, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by Megaquad

like i always say,XMac ;)

So where's iServe? :p

redAPPLE
Jun 11, 2002, 06:03 AM
It has to be an Apple iTablet.

Jaguar will have handwriting technology.

Why announce this technology without a device to go with it?

I think it will.

Stike
Jun 11, 2002, 07:11 AM
iTablet? Donīt think so. There are enough Tablets already out, so that wouldnīt cut it... it would need some really special features, but all in all...

...this speculation would lead to YET ANOTHER PDA THREAD :D

mmmdreg
Jun 11, 2002, 07:52 AM
King Cobra: what's with your little pictures these days? I've seen a few of them now...keep up the heaps good work :D

Anyway, an iTablet may see the light of day one day but not yet, not yet...

j763
Jun 11, 2002, 08:53 AM
not another pda thread.........

Eliot
Jun 11, 2002, 09:21 AM
Do you take iTablets with water and a dose of salt?:p

mcrain
Jun 11, 2002, 10:01 AM
Could be the annoucement of a new pro-level powerbook design. I know they just bumped the speed and screen resolution, but they only bumped to 800 (leaving room for a future bump) and there was a recent rumor about Apple changing to a new company to manufacture the powerbooks.

If I were Apple, I wouldn't want to force a new manufacturer to build something another designer made. They would have to recreate (or purchase from the other company) all the dyes and machinery etc..., and their quality would suffer for a while.

They would be much better off with a design made specifically in conjunction with the new manufacturer and their team of manufacture specialists.

That's my hope at least... a new powerbook with the 1gig chip along side the 1.4 powermac (also with a new box - beige? LOL)

By the way, the new Apple commercials rock. They aren't exciting, but about 10x more likely to get someone like me to buy an apple than the silly iMac sticking its tongue out at the guy.

boymerang
Jun 11, 2002, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by mcrain
Could be the annoucement of a new pro-level powerbook design. I know they just bumped the speed and screen resolution, but they only bumped to 800 (leaving room for a future bump) and there was a recent rumor about Apple changing to a new company to manufacture the powerbooks.

If I were Apple, I wouldn't want to force a new manufacturer to build something another designer made. They would have to recreate (or purchase from the other company) all the dyes and machinery etc..., and their quality would suffer for a while.

They would be much better off with a design made specifically in conjunction with the new manufacturer and their team of manufacture specialists.

this isn't really true of course. if, and when, apple switches manufacturing from whatever company their using now, to whatever company they're flirting with (both names have been mentioned, but i can't for the life of me remember either one)...they're not going to do it on a whim. they're not going to just fax over the powerbook recipe and see what happens. and there really should be no need to alter the design to go from one manufacturer to another, especially since the cases are likely outsourced from another company...correct me if i'm wrong - but their manufacturer doesn't make from scratch every part of a powerbook.

anyway, the point's almost moot. for a while there i was happy to believe that the powerbook might infact get a new enclosure around the same time as the Power Mac, but i just don't see that happening now. despite the brouhaha surrounding paint chipping, denting, scratching, and what else it does while you're sleeping - i don't think apple's going to release two hot new machines simultaneously...they'd only end up splitting their sales.

OSeXy!
Jun 11, 2002, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by mcrain
Could be the annoucement of a new pro-level powerbook design. I know they just bumped the speed and screen resolution, but they only bumped to 800 (leaving room for a future bump) and there was a recent rumor about Apple changing to a new company to manufacture the powerbooks...


I don't think it would be a new design Ti. But there have been several rumors about updating lines that have just been updated. Could be the return of Special Edition macs? TiG4 SE 1GHz? iBook SE 933 MHz? iMac SE 933 MHz? This would set the stage for 1GHz all-round for MWSF...

EDIT>
Sorry, just noticed Falleron said the same thing in another thread.

topicolo
Jun 11, 2002, 11:07 AM
What about an apple-branded digital camera that has the same hard drive as the ipod? I mean, this would only make sense since apple created a gadget to accompany itunes, why won't they create a gadget to accompany iphoto? Having a 3-5 megapixel camera with a 5-10gb hard drive would be killer! I'd imagine that it'd be firewire based, have a tv-out connector, and perhaps it'll also act as a hard drive like the ipod.

Grokgod
Jun 11, 2002, 11:45 AM
Not again with the 1ghz Ti, they were just updated and well updated tO SAY THE LEAST! There isnt going to be a Ti update for quite a bit of time. Apple has to reap the rewards for this cycle on the Ti before they even think about another speed bump on the Ti.

Its all about PowerMacs this time around.
PowerMacs all the way, that the smart money.
Any Ti upgrades isnt a rumor its merely wishful thinking for those that havent bought the most recent one.

dongmin
Jun 11, 2002, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by topicolo
What about an apple-branded digital camera that has the same hard drive as the ipod?

There's no reason for a digital camera to have a 5 gig drive unless it did video. I doubt most digital camera users have anything more than a 128mb card in their cameras (I have a 256mb card and I can take 120+ pics at 4 Mpxls).

But I do like your thinking in terms of a new model of the iPod. There were rumors a while ago about Apple testing out 5+ types of digital hub gizmos.

My predictions:

1. PowerMac G4 1.4ghz with DDR ram and brand spanking new tower case! A new tower design would be a big deal, even if 1.4ghz and DDR doesn't impress people.

2. iMac upgraded to 1 ghz, but NO 17" LCD. If anything, I think they'll try to lower their prices (not raise them to accomodate a 17" LCD) so that the iMac is more competitive with the eMac which most people seems to think is the better buy.

3. A new iPod. No idea what exactly this might be. But I doubt a Tivo-like device for some reason. I just don't see Apple getting into the TV market. If anything, a portable mpeg 4 player.

4. Some sort of update to the LCD line. I've heard that the LCD supply is stabilizing. They've had the existing lineup forever, it seems. My guess would be a price cut across the line. I would LOVE to see Apple do a 19" LCD for under a grand, but that's probably just a fantasy at this point.

5. Another preview of Jaguar and QT6 with more definitive plans and dates.

That seems like a pretty full keynote to me. I seems like Apple has made updates and new announcements on just about every other front.

billiam0878
Jun 11, 2002, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by dongmin

4. Some sort of update to the LCD line. I've heard that the LCD supply is stabilizing. They've had the existing lineup forever, it seems. My guess would be a price cut across the line. I would LOVE to see Apple do a 19" LCD for under a grand, but that's probably just a fantasy at this point.



I can definitely see that happening, good call.

Bill

Wry Cooter
Jun 11, 2002, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by topicolo
What about an apple-branded digital camera that has the same hard drive as the ipod? I mean, this would only make sense since apple created a gadget to accompany itunes, why won't they create a gadget to accompany iphoto? Having a 3-5 megapixel camera with a 5-10gb hard drive would be killer! I'd imagine that it'd be firewire based, have a tv-out connector, and perhaps it'll also act as a hard drive like the ipod.

This would be cool for a teleconferencing iApp. You might see some sort of apple branded web cam just to make the issue more plug and play.

Also, they could merely make this a lens and microphone attachment for an existing iPod, perhaps one that could also stand on its on as a firewire webcam.

I would love a stereo mic that could record to the iPod, as AIFF, or as MP3 encoded on the fly. Just stick it in the firewire plug, and hope the chips inside the pod can encode as well as they decode.

tjwett
Jun 11, 2002, 05:24 PM
Quad G5 at 2.4 mhz. actually, on second thought, DDR mobo with a 1.4 G4. ho-hum.

britboy
Jun 11, 2002, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by tjwett
Quad G5 at 2.4 mhz.


What a revolutionary advance that would be..... :rolleyes:

Dongmin, i think you're hoping for too much. At this rate you're only going to be dissappointed. There's no way apple are going to revamp their entire line within a couple of months. A new enclosure, DDR and faster G4, and *maybe* one surprise, but no more.

dongmin
Jun 11, 2002, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by britboy

Dongmin, i think you're hoping for too much. At this rate you're only going to be dissappointed. There's no way apple are going to revamp their entire line within a couple of months. A new enclosure, DDR and faster G4, and *maybe* one surprise, but no more.

Yeah, I'm maybe being a bit too optimistic. But we KNOW some sort of new tower is coming out. I actually don't care much about a case redesign as long as the internals are vamped. I'm thinking that they'll incorporate some of the design elements of the Xserve into the new tower.

The LCD thing could be just a price reduction.

The iMac revision I think NEEDS to happen. At minimum, we need at least a price reduction in time for the education buying season. I've read reports that iMac sales have tapered off. The iMacs came out in Jan. So it'll be six months; a revision is due.

OK, the iPod 2 thing may be just a pipedream...

DavPeanut
Jun 11, 2002, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by dongmin
OK, the iPod 2 thing may be just a pipedream...

I think it will be real. That would be the apple PDA (sorry to all who are sick of this idea). I dont think there will be an iWalk. An iPod 2 would have a 5-20 Gb HD and could both store dates and address, and play games that only need like 640x480. It could possibly have a fold out screen. I dont know. I'm only 14. Oh well. Anyway, it would have the ability to run some tyoe of OSX, and could Actually Play Music!!! No PDA can do that! It would be revolutionary, like everything from Apple. :)

Kid Red
Jun 11, 2002, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by pacoarango
Apple has to come out with something new at NY this summer. DDR memory is exciting but not enough, neither is 1.2 or 1.4 new G4. So what will it be? They have to surprise us with something new, they need the news and the money....

I'm sorry but a 1.4ghz with DDR is very exciting. One being that Apple has never jumped 400mhz in one bump AFAIK and we need DDR as well as a bigger bus.

My dual gig is ready for eBay but I think I will end up waiting till MWSF. I'd love to be surprised that would explain why every product has been updated but the towers, the tower sales are in the dump and Apple has rocked on all other upgrades. So maybe, just maybe I'll be surprised. If so, you can catch my dual gig on eBay:)

big
Jun 11, 2002, 08:56 PM
What about an apple-branded digital camera that has the same hard drive as the ipod

that'd be just great (note the sarcasm). then you could carry the camera, plug it into the Ipod to automatically download the pics and carry on.

I on the other hand will be stuck with a USB Olympus I just purchased that I'd have to carry the Ibook around w/me.

think of the inconvenience

topicolo
Jun 11, 2002, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by DavPeanut


Anyway, it would have the ability to run some tyoe of OSX, and could Actually Play Music!!! No PDA can do that! It would be revolutionary, like everything from Apple. :)

Umm, let me see... Which PDA's play music... The Sony Clie N710c, N770c, NR70, or any of the clie series with the audio adaptor; the HP iPaq, the Toshiba egenio 300-700 series, and practically every other pocketpeecee handheld out there...;)

topicolo
Jun 11, 2002, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by big


that'd be just great (note the sarcasm). then you could carry the camera, plug it into the Ipod to automatically download the pics and carry on.

I on the other hand will be stuck with a USB Olympus I just purchased that I'd have to carry the Ibook around w/me.

think of the inconvenience

What I meant was a camera that CONTAINED the same type of harddrive as the ipod. That would be cool in my opinion. It could be like that new panasonic DV camera that uses SD cards to store its movies in MPEG4 format. I remember it being able to store 30min worth on a 64meg card and it was the size of a deck of cards. Wouldn't it be cool if apple's camera supported video capture and high res pictures and stored it in quicktime 6 format on a 5-10gig hd? Knowing apple, they'd charge $1500+ for it, but it'll at least look great :).

big
Jun 11, 2002, 10:32 PM
that would be awesome....(the sarcasm was misplaced, I would be upset if apple came out w/something better after I had just bought my camera)
though I still think linking it to an Ipod would be awesome too

iWalkMovies
Jun 19, 2002, 07:43 PM
Duh.

Old but most likely the real deal.

http://homepage.mac.com/iwalkmovies