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MacDawg
Dec 29, 2008, 01:39 PM
My 10 month old granddaughter got me this book for Christmas... ;)

http://homepage.mac.com/k.j.vinson/book.jpg

So I am wondering... what was your Grandpa good for? :)
What is your favorite memory, experience, adventure??

What makes a good Grandpa in your opinion?
I never knew either of my Grandpas... both were gone before I came on the scene
And both my parents passed while my son and daughter were 6 and 4

I need some advice on how to succeed in this uncharted territory
I failed miserably as a father and as a husband... this is my last chance :(

Woof, Woof - Dawg http://homepage.mac.com/k.j.vinson/pawprint.gif



ezzie
Dec 29, 2008, 01:56 PM
So I am wondering... what was your Grandpa good for? :)
What is your favorite memory, experience, adventure??

What makes a good Grandpa in your opinion?
grandpa's are good for one thing...spoiling grandkids. :p

nah, seriously...my dad's dad is one of those grandpas that you really don't like to visit. he's grumpy, he's no fun, he used to be a car salesman. ;) i never liked spending time with him and he was impossible to talk to. i genuinely believe that he just doesn't like kids. he even took my cousin and i to DisneyWorld...but he complained and grumbled about being there the whole time. :(

my mom's dad, on the other hand...i wish i could've had more time with him. when i was wee-little he was my favorite person, and i was his girl. he let me help him with things, he never yelled at me, and he just always made me feel welcome and important and loved. he played dolls with me, he gave me piggyback rides, he was just awesome. he had a debilitating stroke when i was 6 and we never got to do those things again. but in the hospital, i was the first person he smiled at. :o no matter what, i was his girl.

sorry for rambling but the point is...he was just always there, always seemed to be happy playing dolls even if he hated it, and he really seemed to be really grateful for the chance to be a grandpa.

i'm sure you'll do a great job, MacDawg. :) just love her with all you've got and always make sure she knows that you do. i'm sure you'll figure it out from there.

rdowns
Dec 29, 2008, 01:57 PM
One of my grandfathers died when I was 7 , so I have few memories of him. My other one was the best. All he wanted to do were spoil his boys (my brother and me) as he only had daughters. Aside of all the material things, he taught me a lot. When my parents got divorced, he stepped up and filled the role of my dad when he wasn't around but never got in the middle of all the divorce BS.

He died when I was in my early 20s. Damn, Dawg, now you got me all teary eyed remembering him.

I'm sure you'll do great as a grandfather. Just be there for her. Call her on the phone often if you can't see her in person.

mkrishnan
Dec 29, 2008, 01:59 PM
I never knew either of my Grandpas... both were gone before I came on the scene

Same for me, and I regret having never known them.

LeahM
Dec 29, 2008, 02:01 PM
During christmas time my grandparents used to have a candy dish out that had a glass top and I used to ask my grampa if I could have a candy and he would tell me if I could take the top off without making a sound. So thats what I remember, trying to take off the glass top without making a sound.

That and he was a fisherman so the smell of fish reminds me of him. He passed a couple of years ago, I believe this January 11th will mark the 4th year.

MacDawg
Dec 29, 2008, 02:04 PM
my dad's dad is one of those grandpas that you really don't like to visit. he's grumpy, he's no fun

I don't want to be "that grandpa" :(

he was my favorite person, and i was his girl

I want to be "that grandpa" :)

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ezzie
Dec 29, 2008, 02:08 PM
I don't want to be "that grandpa" :(



I want to be "that grandpa" :)

as long as you care enough to know which grandpa you want to be, i think you'll be just fine. ;)

MacDawg
Dec 29, 2008, 02:50 PM
Aside of all the material things, he taught me a lot.

What kinds of things did he teach you?

The first page of the "book" says, "Grandpas know about birds. And bugs. And rocks."
See, I don't know anything about those things. :(


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ucfgrad93
Dec 29, 2008, 03:06 PM
What kinds of things did he teach you?

The first page of the "book" says, "Grandpas know about birds. And bugs. And rocks."
See, I don't know anything about those things. :(

I don't think you need to know about those things specifically. Just find something that your granddaughter is interested in and share that with her, make sure that you spend time with her, lastly make sure that you work on your relationship with her parents.

leekohler
Dec 29, 2008, 03:10 PM
Same for me, and I regret having never known them.

I didn't know mine either. :(

rdowns
Dec 29, 2008, 03:11 PM
What kinds of things did he teach you?

The first page of the "book" says, "Grandpas know about birds. And bugs. And rocks."
See, I don't know anything about those things. :(


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You may not know a lot about birds or bugs or rocks but you know more than your grand-daughter. I'm very close to my niece and I remember saying to my mom, what the hell do I know about being a girl. But I learned. I can plan a tea party with the best of them. ;)

He taught me so many things, I don't know where to begin. Some of my earliest memories are of watching baseball with him and learning why I shouldn't like the Yankees. :p He was an old Brooklyn Dodger fan and never forgave them for moving.

So many other things... we used to walk in the woods near our summer home and he would show me bugs and trees and we caught frogs. Boy stuff. The value of money and saving, the value of hard work, how to BBQ, hot to use tools and work with wood, taught me to drive, let me drive his Cadillac when I got my license (how cool was that? A 17 year old cruising around in a new 1979 Cadillac).

My best advice is just to be there for her. As ezzie said, as long as you care enough to know which grandpa you want to be, i think you'll be just fine.

Cassie
Dec 29, 2008, 03:20 PM
My grandfather on my dad's side died when I was about 18 months old, so I never knew him.

My grandfather on my mom's side however, is alive and kickin' at 80 years old. :) He's a very peculiar man, though. He's not mean or anything, but he doesn't particularly like talking to anyone besides his close friends and wife. He spoiled the heck out of me and my siblings when we were younger, but now all of us are past that stage (Well, except for my brother, but he's nearing the end of it.) and he's really not too fun to hang around anymore, just because it's extremely hard to get a few words out of him...

One of my favorite things to do with him was go flying in his plane. :) He had a small two seater prop engine plane, and he took me up in it often, letting me fly it in the air occasionally. Ah, good times.

JNB
Dec 29, 2008, 03:26 PM
My mother's father being gone before I was born, and my dad's dad by the time I was ten or so (and being very old-school, as in children should be seen as little as possible and never heard), I have no idea what a grandfather should or shouldn't be. Although I'm more than old enough to be one, thankfully I am not, and never will be.

There are plenty of grandparents in my neighborhood and amongst my peers, and mostly they're just annoying.

MacDawg
Dec 29, 2008, 03:35 PM
I'm very close to my niece and I remember saying to my mom, what the hell do I know about being a girl. But I learned. I can plan a tea party with the best of them. ;)

He taught me so many things, I don't know where to begin. Some of my earliest memories are of watching baseball with him and learning why I shouldn't like the Yankees. :p He was an old Brooklyn Dodger fan and never forgave them for moving.

So many other things... we used to walk in the woods near our summer home and he would show me bugs and trees and we caught frogs. Boy stuff. The value of money and saving, the value of hard work, how to BBQ, hot to use tools and work with wood, taught me to drive, let me drive his Cadillac when I got my license (how cool was that? A 17 year old cruising around in a new 1979 Cadillac).


Quite a legacy he left you rdowns
No wonder you got teary eyed remembering him ;)
Sounds like you were able to spend a lot of time with him
Unfortunately, I don't think that is going to be the case in my situation
I will have to make the most of the times I do get :o

My grandfather on my mom's side however, is alive and kickin' at 80 years old. :) He's a very peculiar man, though. He's not mean or anything, but he doesn't particularly like talking to anyone besides his close friends and wife. He spoiled the heck out of me and my siblings when we were younger, but now all of us are past that stage (Well, except for my brother, but he's nearing the end of it.) and he's really not too fun to hang around anymore, just because it's extremely hard to get a few words out of him...

One of my favorite things to do with him was go flying in his plane. :) He had a small two seater prop engine plane, and he took me up in it often, letting me fly it in the air occasionally. Ah, good times.

Excellent memories Cassie! Especially the flying! What a treat!
It is sad when they grow older and lose that personal interaction, but I guess that is when they need you more than you need them in your life... even if they don't know how to show it. I don't want to be a mean old man, the grumpy grandpa. :(

There are plenty of grandparents in my neighborhood and amongst my peers, and mostly they're just annoying.

Not very comforting JNB... I am afraid that is who I will turn out to be :(

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BanjoBanker
Dec 29, 2008, 04:29 PM
I too have a ten month old grand daughter MacDawg! Good on us... My fraternal grand father was the sort of guy who was hard to know. He took me fishing and hunting when I was 10 or so, but it always felt like it was an obligation to him. However, watching my Dad with my kids, well that was something entirely dofferent. They still worship the ground he walks on at 26,21 and 18 respectively. He was always there for them and taught them how to do various things, but mainly he was interested in what they did. He never missed a ball game, or school play. That is how I want to be for my grand daughter. Just let her know you love her every time you talk to her, that she is special. You will figure the rest out in time. At least you have the desire to be a good grand father.

MacDawg
Dec 29, 2008, 05:49 PM
He was always there for them and taught them how to do various things, but mainly he was interested in what they did.

Seems to be a common theme... teaching them to do certain things
Could be a real challenge since I don't know how to do much of anything :o
With the advantages kids have today, she will be teaching me things instead :(

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redwarrior
Dec 29, 2008, 06:40 PM
With the advantages kids have today, she will be teaching me things instead :(

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That's even better; it will give her a sense of value and self-respect that so many children are lacking these days.

Both of my grandfathers died 30 years before I was born. But I have watched my father with my children.

He has done an excellent job of teaching them manners and self-respect, just by example. They watch him closely, how he treats others, and the way he is eventually rewarded for it.

It's priceless. Grandparents teach humanity and warmth in a cold world. You have been given a beautiful gift, and you will bless her with it just by being there.

skunk
Dec 29, 2008, 06:45 PM
Grandpas are good for reading stories.

Much Ado
Dec 29, 2008, 06:47 PM
Grandpas are good for telling stories.

MacDawg
Dec 29, 2008, 06:56 PM
Grandpas are good for reading stories.

Grandpas are good for telling stories.

Fortunately, that part I think I can handle... the rest I am not so sure about :o

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skunk
Dec 29, 2008, 07:10 PM
Grandpas are good for telling stories.Grandpas should probably avoid telling too many compromising stories about their offspring...

MacDawg
Dec 29, 2008, 07:40 PM
Grandpas should probably avoid telling too many compromising stories about their offspring...

I'm not sure how many is too many ;)

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yojitani
Dec 30, 2008, 02:36 AM
I think that my dad realized that since he doesn't have to raise my kids, he can just give them undivided attention, love, and toys. My dad was never as gentle with me as he is with my kids, but a lot of that seems to come down to the fact that he leaves the parenting up to the parents (tip: don't be interfering with the way your kids want to bring up their kids). That does mean that sometimes he treats kids to things we don't approve of, like junk food or sweets with food coloring. However, I'm fine with it so long as he doesn't endanger them!

Stories ARE very important. Not just stories about your kids, but any stories or songs you know. One of my grandfathers was a great storyteller (Cherokee, so I guess it was inbuilt) and I loved him for it. He was poor as anything, but my sister and I loved to go to his house, endure the smell of old dog pee and plastic cheese just to hear his stories. He told stories about bears, about distant family members, about his parents signing the Dawes Rolls, about lots of silly things like worms who lived in his apples, ladybugs putting out fires, etc etc. In his dotage his stories turned into weird anecdotes about Oprah and Jerry Springer, which was a shame since I would have been able to remember more stories from that time. Still, even if you don't know that many stories, read to them. Try not to be the guy that they call when they want the latest lego, and only then..

Congrats on the grandchildren by the way!

millerj123
Dec 30, 2008, 09:10 AM
I'm not sure how many is too many ;)

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That number is exactly six more than you can actually remember. Stories are better if there are embarrassing pictures to go with them.

I really don't think it matters what you do so much as that you do. Spend time with them, do things they are interested in, and try to at least show them what you are interested in.

ErikCLDR
Dec 30, 2008, 09:24 AM
Spoiling you, giving you candy, randomly giving you money, taking you to fairs, fixing broken things, making you teach how to use a computer :D

MacDawg
Dec 31, 2008, 04:55 PM
Yay... I get to see my granddaughter on New Year's Day
I have been invited over to watch the Dawgs play ;)

I will take "the book" and read it to her, per "her" request when I got it

I usually get to feed her when I am there... so that is a good thing too

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rdowns
Dec 31, 2008, 05:47 PM
Thats great, Dawg! Happy New Year, Grandpa. :)

Thomas Veil
Jan 1, 2009, 05:11 AM
Speaking as a grandpa, one who helps grandma babysit our 3 year old granddaughter...

Just before Christmas I ordered her, then read to her, some classic fairy tale books: Little Red Riding Hood, Rapunzel, Jack and the Beanstalk, the Three Little Pigs...

I sit and watch the Backyardigans with her. (Or at least, I did until this (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=625732). ;) ) But to broaden her cartoon knowledge and appreciation (not to mention her sense of the absurd), I ordered and play for her some of the classic Looney Tunes cartoons. You can't really say you've had a childhood unless you watch a coyote repeatedly fall off a cliff.

We rassle on the floor, I tease her, she teases back. (Just yesterday she and grandma conspired to stick a couple of potatoes in my shoes. So when I went to put them on....)

And just to encourage her sense of absurdity, I make up bizarre stuff. She usually arrives in the morning a few minutes before I finish my morning shower. So when I'm dressed, she's in the living room at the foot of the stairs with grandma. Before I come downstairs, I'll do something ridiculous like make a bunch of barnyard noises, then come downstairs complaining about how difficult it is to get around all the chickens and cows in our bedroom. That kind of stuff always brings a grin to her face. (Although I still haven't figured out whether that grin means "Grandpa's entertaining," or "Grandpa's nuts.")

MacDawg
Jan 1, 2009, 05:34 PM
Speaking as a grandpa <snip>

Good stuff TV! I like it!

Well, it was a good visit with my granddaughter. I brought 'snacks' (cheese and crackers) as well as some pizza. So, while they ate, I got to feed my granddaughter her lunch. :) That seems to be an excellent way to get on her good list. We got to play some as well, and she is now pulling up and standing on her own (while holding on). She claps for everything too... Apparently my watch is quite the curious object as well.

Good times and good fun... and I also got a picture of my kids, spouses and granddaughter. Excellent.

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rdowns
Jan 1, 2009, 05:40 PM
Glad you had a nice day with your family, Dawg. :)