why do nice guys finish last?!

[mgargan1]

you know what... it's not fair at all, nice guys always end up finishing last, at least in terms of women. So, i went on a date last night, and she said she had a great time, it's just I'm not the type of guy she usually dates. She said that she usually dates jerks, and that I was a really nice guy, but we were better off as friends. Why is it that I go out of my way to open the door for her, to be polite to her, and to be a great, nice guy... and then she tells me i'm too nice? It's seriously not fair at all.

I know biologically, women prefer men who are jerks/*******s because that means they're stronger (biologically), and they want the strongest guy. But, it's seriously not fair

[themadchemist]

Yeah, that sucks significantly. In the future, be sure to be rude to the girl and try to grope her or something. Maybe that will help... :rolleyes:

[Benjamin]

yeah it is a bitch eh? Just how natural selection is.
Yeah, that sucks significantly. In the future, be sure to be rude to the girl and try to grope her or something. Maybe that will help... :rolleyes:

LOL

[scem0]

I don't know about you but I wouldn't want to be with a girl who would be so closed minded in the first place.

scem0

[coopdog]

Yeah it sucks doesn't it. :rolleyes: Girls thoughts, reasoning, any everything about them are hard to understand. Especially when my last wife stabbed me 3 times in my sleep, then stole my car and crashed it into a tree. :( :mad: Meeting girls for me is VERY hard... But what can you do? :rolleyes:

[mgargan1]

well, i can always marry my right hand if worst comes to worst ;)...

[eyelikeart]

There's nothing wrong with showing a little class, but if u are too formidable to a woman, chances are she's not gonna be attracted to u. Sometimes it works better to give her a little something to work towards, a challenge if u will.

Of course, don't take my word for it...I am single. ;)

[themadchemist]

well, i can always marry my right hand if worst comes to worst ;)...

That wouldn't be so bad:
1) It's always there for you
2) It never talks back
3) It will defend you if necessary
4) You feel each other's pain

And most importantly,

5) It knows just how to fulfill for you desires--each and every time. :D

[Macmaniac]

I hate how all the hot girls in my school go out with the druggies/ smokers/ and drinkers. It angers me a bit, I'm always polite and kind to every girl I know, I don't treat the like trash yet they all go out with guys who treat the like trash.

grrr.

[themadchemist]

I hate how all the hot girls in my school go out with the druggies/ smokers/ and drinkers. It angers me a bit, I'm always polite and kind to every girl I know, I don't treat the like trash yet they all go out with guys who treat the like trash.

grrr.

could it be some sort of sadomasochistic tendency? I don't know. Women are odd.

[gwuMACaddict]

maybe it has something to do with the fact that you are subscribed to a computer rumor site ;)

hehe- just kiddin' :D

don't sweat it- there's plenty more out there that appreciate nice guys

[mgargan1]

a couple more to add to the list...

your hand never gets PMS
your hand never yells at you
your hand never gets "headaches"
your hand never asks you to remember dates, and makes you be romantic...

but your hand will never, for whatever reason, be as attractive as a women... why does God tease us like He does?!

[topicolo]

There's nothing wrong with showing a little class, but if u are too formidable to a woman, chances are she's not gonna be attracted to u. Sometimes it works better to give her a little something to work towards, a challenge if u will.

Of course, don't take my word for it...I am single. ;)


Hey eye! I like your response--it's almost exactly what I was going to type (you obviously know your way around women) ;). I've found that if you're going to be nice and give everything to a girl, especially if she's beautiful, she's just going to use you like a doormat.

Making her work for it is the key

[themadchemist]

a couple more to add to the list...
but your hand will never, for whatever reason, be as attractive as a women...

Cost-benefit, my friend, COST-BENEFIT.

[coopdog]

I hate how all the hot girls in my school go out with the druggies/ smokers/ and drinkers. It angers me a bit, I'm always polite and kind to every girl I know, I don't treat the like trash yet they all go out with guys who treat the like trash.

grrr.


Well at my school 10th grade, I don't know one person, nerd, hottie, jock that doesn't at least smoke weed if not snort coke or snort prescription drugs, (oxycotton, vicadon.) major pain killers... I stay away from that ****. It pisses me of SO MUCH when my friends come stoned or drunk to school and they get better grades than I do totaly sober. :mad: :mad:

But at my school the hottest (most popular) girls in my grade (softmore) only go out with juniors or seniors. There are only 2 BF GF relationships I know of between two 10th graders right now. :rolleyes: It's a pisser cuz the freshmen will only go out with juniors too, so our grade gets kind of screwed. At least I do... Not litterally. ;) :(

[brianellisrules]

Here's the thing: girls like playing games. Girls also like drama. A nice guy provides neither of these things.

[Billicus]

It doesn't make any sense...:o Maybe it gets better when they realize those jerks aren't going to be athletic and popular for their entire lives, but we will be people earning a steady paycheck for the rest of our lives?...:( :mad: :rolleyes:

[wdlove]

Well I happen to be a nice guy. In the women department, don't feel that I finished last. I have been with my women for more than 31 years now.

[Daveman Deluxe]

It doesn't make any sense...:o Maybe it gets better when they realize those jerks aren't going to be athletic and popular for their entire lives, but we will be people earning a steady paycheck for the rest of our lives?...:( :mad: :rolleyes:

That's exactly what one of the hall monitors at my high school told me. He said that when he went back for his ten-year reunion, all the jocks and druggies were single and bloody lonely, whereas all the nerds and the guys who worked hard were happily married. To the hottest chicks, no less.

[pseudobrit]

I have been with my women for more than 31 years now.

I didn't know you were Mormon.

[pseudobrit]

Here's the thing: girls like playing games. Girls also like drama. A nice guy provides neither of these things.

Right-o. Here's some more:

1 Women want a challenge.
2 They want the wild guy, a badass.

1 The nice guy is not challenging because he is too available and too conformist.

2 The nice guy is not wild because he is afraid to offend the woman and scare her away. This is compounded when the man is getting laid, because he really doesn't want to lose the status quo.

1 The badass is a challenge because he's got his own life and always plays by his own rules. He doesn't take **** from anyone. Consequently, no one tries to give him **** more than once.

2 The badass is wild and doesn't care if he offends the woman and scares her away because he knows he can get another one.

[Stelliform]

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[SilvorX]

all my life i've never been able to get a half decent girl, i'm a nice guy myself, but i just cant attract girls, the girls who i do attract are f'ing ugly but i still love em anyways, but they cant cook as well, but after the relationship is long gone, i realize the girl is a b*tch :mad:
i've given up trying
I didn't have a gf until end of gr 11

[Billicus]

There is a song out there that holds some truth. I cannot remember the name of the song or who sings it, but I certainly remember the words. ;)

Goes something like this....

"If you want to be happy for the rest of your life
never make a pretty woman your wife.
...
Get and ugly girl to marry you..."

(And the talking between the guys goes...)
Guy1: Hey did you see my wife?
Guy2: Yeah and she is Uuuuggglly!
Guy1: Yeah, but she can sure cook!

So what I am saying is nice guys forget about the drop dead beautiful girls. They will make crummy wives. ;) :p

In other words, there are girls out there that are smart, intelligent, and nice...hmmm...just like we're smart, intelligent, and nice guys???...:cool:

[acidrock]

I just posted about my problem in my other thread. Basically I am in the same situation some of you guys are in. I'm a really nice guy but girls either already have bfreinds or don't want to be with me because I'm to nice. It has been a long and frustrating story. -n

[tpjunkie]

Yeah, that's a harry belafonte song.

As for women...don't understand 'em, gave up trying a long time ago. At least in college, if you want some action, all you need to do is get liquored up and go to a party....to hell with all that High school drama crap...

[agreenster]

But, it's seriously not fair

The fact that you dont think its fair I think totally drives the point home. Dont whine about it, be tough AND a nice guy, and you'll get the girl every time.

Dont forget tho', the same reasons those girls arent interested in you, is the same reason you dont go around asking out ugly girls. Its a matter of taste.

[coopdog]

I didn't know you were Mormon.
HAHAH :D :p

[coopdog]

Forget tring at all. Just use Alcohol. :p

[tpjunkie]

Forget tring at all. Just use Alcohol. :p


tha's wha' i said -hic- :p

[eyelikeart]

Hey eye! I like your response--it's almost exactly what I was going to type (you obviously know your way around women) ;). I've found that if you're going to be nice and give everything to a girl, especially if she's beautiful, she's just going to use you like a doormat.

Making her work for it is the key

hahaha...let's just say I've learned a few things from experience. Even though I'm currently single, I feel I have better control when situations present themselves knowing that much. ;)

[topicolo]

hahaha...let's just say I've learned a few things from experience. Even though I'm currently single, I feel I have better control when situations present themselves knowing that much. ;)

Heheh... agreed. I love being single! It's great to not have to be tied down and chained to a woman--feels liberating. I'd much rather let my eyes (and maybe the rest of me ;)) wander for a while than get shackled down. Although having a steady girlfriend does have its pluses :D

mgargan1: think of it this way, she didn't blow you off. It's not that you weren't her type, she wasn't YOUR type! She just missed out on something so there's just more of you to go around with the rest of the beautiful ladies!

Cheer up and be confident!

[Daveman Deluxe]

Just don't worry about it too much. I fell head over heels for this girl last term like I've never been in love before, but she wasn't interested in me romantically. She was kind about it, and didn't play games.

To make a long story short, I was happy to be her friend, but she was still mostly the girl I wanted to go out with. Well, one weekend I was having a really crappy weekend (one of the worst ever) and she cared enough to ask me what was wrong. I realized that I was being selfish and quit worrying about it.

She's one of my best friends now, and while we're not romantically involved or interested, we love each other like never before. I don't know what, if anything, the future holds for us, but I know that it will be good.

Just let things happen. If you believe there's a girl out there for you, you'll meet her at the right time. A beautiful love story is being written, but for now that love story means that you'll be alone.

[mgargan1]

yea, I know... you know what... I just realized that being 20, the girls in my age group are still young and immature, and I don't need a girl that doesn't want me for me. But in a couple years, when a girl realizes what she has in front of her... a guy who opens the doors, who listens to her, a guy who makes eye contact, a guy who doesn't talk about sex or crude matterial ALL the time (a little is good), then I'll be in... I may be laughing last, but you know what, I'll sure as hell be laughing best.

As for that one girl, the more i thought about it, she's just an immature person who didn't have a good relationship with her father, so she's looking for a father figure boyfriend, not a person who she will enjoy being with in the future.

And that about sums that up...

[MongoTheGeek]

All of this goes back to basic biology. Women are attracted to certain men for certain reasons at certain times. Just like men are attracted to certain women.

The basic biology involved is that women are attracted to the dominant male. Thats why they go for the jocks and jerks. These people are viewed as dominant males. The best thing is to build a group of male followers and you will be viewed as one of the cool kids, at least in the click. The alpha-geek so to speak. Also don't needy. If you seem needy then you must not be the alpha-geek.

There is a condition though. There have been studies done that show that at times (left as an exercise in research for the readers) that women tend to prefer the "nice" guys to settle with. They also tend to be less libidinous at these times.

[Stelliform]

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[vollspacken]

you know what...

- everytime I behave like an ******* and be really rude, I get the chick...

- everytime I am nice and polite, I don't

but I don't want to be rude and mean anymore, and so I get less to nothing

I can live with that situation, better than being a complete dork

sure, sometimes it sucks, but I don't like the alternative

vSpacken

[Neserk]

From a woman's perspective: You don't want to date a woman who only dates jerks. You'd be miserable in the long run because she is going to constantly pick fights with you to make you the like the men she usually dates.

signed: A woman who married a nice guy!