CHECK THESE PICS OUT! frozen macbook!

[857motoX]

A few days ago my house caught on fire and i had my macbook sitting open on the table... as you can see it was frozen to the table from the firemen drenching it with water while it was -10 degrees outside... It won't turn on. Any suggestions?

[bruinsrme]

insurance claim

[NC MacGuy]

Call your insurance company. Cool pic's though. You may be able to salvage the HDD if you get it out quickly.

[therealdt]

ummm, yes insurance.



FrozenBook??

[Tallest Skil]

It won't turn on.

Really? :p

Let it thaw... take the battery off as SOON as you can. Let it dry COMPLETELY after thawing (wait six days even after you THINK all the water is out. Keep tipping it and let everything drip out and then keep waiting a week or so).

You never know... it might still work.

[Vulcan]

A few days ago my house caught on fire and i had my macbook sitting open on the table... as you can see it was frozen to the table from the firemen drenching it with water while it was -10 degrees outside... It won't turn on. Any suggestions?

Sorry that your house caught fire, stinks around this time of the year :( For some fun you can always take it to the Genius Bar and ask :D

[TuffLuffJimmy]

have you tried putting it in the microwave?

[bruinsrme]

have you tried putting it in the microwave?

you jest

[857motoX]

have you tried putting it in the microwave?

yep it didnt work.. im warming the oven up right now!

[metroid87706]

I'm sorry to hear about the fire. :(

But that MacBook is really cool looking. (Literally! XD)

Yeah, I say file for an insurance claim. Then you can get a new UniBody! :D

[bruinsrme]

yep it didnt work.. im warming the oven up right now!

I would let it thaw itself at room temperature.
if you accelarate thawing you may cause damage through warping and too much water flow suddenly.

gently chip the ice on the outer shell away and let it thaw at room temp.

you didn't relly put it in the microwave did you?

[petermcphee]

Pics or it didn't.... well, I guess it happened. Sorry to hear about your loss.

[likemyorbs]

-10????? good god where do you live?

[857motoX]

-10????? good god where do you live?

northern minnesota. it gets a lot colder than -10 degrees.

[likemyorbs]

northern minnesota. it gets a lot colder than -10 degrees.

i'd kill myself, i dont think i've ever felt cold like that in my entire life. how do you get your cars to start?

[TuffLuffJimmy]

you jest
ahhh you got me!
yep it didnt work.. im warming the oven up right now!
:D

[bruinsrme]

i'd kill myself, i dont think i've ever felt cold like that in my entire life. how do you get your cars to start?

cars start down to -20 but there are engine blankets

[TuffLuffJimmy]

alright, repair permissions and reset the PRAM.

[bozz2006]

northern minnesota. it gets a lot colder than -10 degrees.

where in MN? I live 15 miles south of Detroit Lakes. Sorry to hear about your house!

[johndatserakis]

yea I think you just need to restore the OS, you should be all set.

[goldfronts]

ouch! this is what insurance is for, though. good luck

[italiano40]

you can save the hard drive, the computer may not start but the hard drive should work fine in another machine

[dmw007]

Cool pictures, I have never seen a frozen MacBook before. :eek:

Sorry to hear about the fire though. Having gone through a house fire before (a few days before Christmas several years ago), I know that it is a hard and emotional time. I hope that things work out for you and your house is repaired/rebuilt as soon as possible. :) :)

As others have said, the best thing to do is let the insurance company buy you a new MacBook.

[kastenbrust]

Cool pictures, I have never seen a frozen MacBook before. :eek:

1) Dont give Apple ideas


2) I knew there was a reason Apple patented those damn gloves
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=626283

[hhlee]

take everything apart and let sit to dry completely before running any electricity through

i would NOT rush on taking out your hd and hooking it up as water could have gotten in.

[alexlovesmacs]

Get one of those clear boxes and fill it with rice and put your macbook in there the rice will absorb all the moisture.

[Reflow]

I personally wouldn't do anything until the insurance claim was completed on everything with check in hand. With you tempering with it might void your insurance. I would also take hundreds of pictures of everything. Sorry about your loss and hope no one was injured. That just my 2 cents

[dmw007]

1) Dont give Apple ideas

Who knows, it might just make for a good "one more thing". :)


2) I knew there was a reason Apple patented those damn gloves
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=626283

Good one! :D :)

[Vulcan]

take everything apart and let sit to dry completely before running any electricity through

i would NOT rush on taking out your hd and hooking it up as water could have gotten in.

Feel around the hard drive, see if it is damp or not. If so, give it some time to warm up and dry.

[alexbates]

take everything apart and let sit to dry completely before running any electricity through

i would NOT rush on taking out your hd and hooking it up as water could have gotten in.

I don't know... an HD would seem like the most likely thing to survive. Today, my dad washed his phone. I tried to put his SIM card in my phone and it worked fine, even though it looked like it was ruined. The phone doesn't work anymore though. These might seem like two completely different comparisons, but there is always hope.

SAVE YOUR HD! The files on my Mac are worth more than the computer itself in my opinion. I have an external drive in case my HD crashes or something.

Good Luck! Just let it dry out for a couple of days and hopefully the files will be readable. I'm sorry to hear about your house!

[dextermorgan]

Sorry for your loss. If you have backups or the files are not important I wouldn't worry about your HD. Otherwise save it. The rest isn't worth the effort IMO.

[ChrisN]

Wow that's sooo cool but seriously good luck fixing it.

ChrisN

[iParis]

Sorry to hear about that

Don't you think it could be water AND fire damage?

[steve31]

cool pics. Sorry for the pun:)

[kellen]

Was it on during the fire / water? If so probably less chance of it being okay. However if it was off then I would think you have a better shot of it making it out okay.

Good luck!

[Solemony]

Ouch... Maybe insurance will cover it..? Good luck to you!

[timestoby]

thats okay,it was black anyway lol

[lamina]

I love you.

[iMav]

i'd kill myself, i dont think i've ever felt cold like that in my entire life. how do you get your cars to start?

Block heater.

[mac jones]

i'm thinking that thing will be fine if he let's it dry completely.

It's only water and it was off when it got soaked.

But the problem would be he doesn't wait long enough for it to dry.

I would wait 5 days (just to be safe). But that may be difficult.

[Chandler Adaway]

i'm thinking that thing will be fine if he let's it dry completely.

It's only water and it was off when it got soaked.

But the problem would be he doesn't wait long enough for it to dry.

I would wait 5 days (just to be safe). But that may be difficult.

I don't know, I mean, the computer got doused by a FIRE HOSE. haha.

I would be really surprised to see that computer come back to life.


But what a wonderful oportunity to get insurance money and get a Mac Pro with dual 30's! And a Macbook! :p

[alphaod]

Sorry to see this and hear about your fire. Hope everyone is okay and safe.

As with the computer, let it thaw out and let it air dry for at least a week. If possible take the computer apart and air dry each piece for at least a week.

If you have insurance this would be a good time to call them up.

Just for fun, take this to an Apple store in a insulated box and ask a Genius.


But what a wonderful oportunity to get insurance money and get a Mac Pro with dual 30's! And a Macbook! :p

That would be insurance fraud…

[Chandler Adaway]

That would be insurance fraud…
It's just an upgrade.
My old neighbor had a 100,000 dollar house that burnt down and rebuilt a two story 250,000 dollar house, and the insurance company had no problem with it.
I don't see why they would mind with him upgrading his computer.

Usually, everyone gets nicer things after getting insurance money.
Almost always.

[VPrime]

I don't know... an HD would seem like the most likely thing to survive. Today, my dad washed his phone. I tried to put his SIM card in my phone and it worked fine, even though it looked like it was ruined. The phone doesn't work anymore though. These might seem like two completely different comparisons, but there is always hope.

The difference between a hard drive and a sim card is that the hard drive has a lot of moving parts, and has places where water can get in. It also has exposed electronics.

[Tallest Skil]

It's just an upgrade.
My old neighbor had a 100,000 dollar house that burnt down and rebuilt a two story 250,000 dollar house, and the insurance company had "no problem" with it.

Usually, everyone gets nicer things after getting insurance money.
Almost always.

Could this be why insurance costs so much, you reckon?

[Nick012]

Email steve with the pics. Not in a 'gimme a new laptop' kind of way but in a 'check this out' kind of way. Enjoy your small chance of a new MBP.

[dmw007]

It's just an upgrade.
My old neighbor had a 100,000 dollar house that burnt down and rebuilt a two story 250,000 dollar house, and the insurance company had no problem with it.

That is quite an "upgrade" at over twice the cost (assuming that $100,000 was a recent appraised value prior to the fire)!

[CalMin]

I'll guess that it's not fixable, but you could probably sell the pictures as art.

[Hankster]

Being a firefighter I can tell you, depending on where that laptop was in relation to the fire, that it is most likely 100% drenched in water. Thus, also 100% frozen through. I would assume your machine is done for. Electronics can be dried out, but that's with limited water present (or limited exposure) Your insurance will pay for a new one, and you could probably get the new Alum MacBook.

Sorry about your lose.

[paolo-]

Could this be why insurance costs so much, you reckon?

I'm fairly sure he means his neighbor shelled 150k from his pocket for the upgrade.

[Chandler Adaway]

I'm fairly sure he means his neighbor shelled 150k from his pocket for the upgrade.

;)
Correct.
Take what they give you and then add to it and you end up getting an "upgraded" product.

[MattyK]

stick a paddle pop stick in the cd rom and lick till' dry.
There you have it, the Macbook Pop.

[TuffLuffJimmy]

stick a paddle pop stick in the cd rom and lick till' dry.
There you have it, the Macbook Pop.

Finally with all the 'pop' features we lost when steve insisted on those glossy displays!

[jav6454]

Sorry bout the loss. Insurance claim is what people recommend in this thread and its the most logical choice. Take enough pics of it though.

Also, just for love of it. Try to see if the MacBook still works. I know the odds are HIGHLY against you, but it never hurts to try. I read earlier a suggestion to let it thaw out until you can get the battery out. Do that. Dry out with a cloth the whole thing as much as possible

Then put the rest in a container with rice covering it. Let sit 5 days in the rice, take it out and let it "breath" for a day and put back in the container with rice, take out after another 5 days. Reconnect, turn on and post back!

PS - Hope it all goes well

[ikermalli]

You guys are complaining about -10 F (23.3333333 C) I get -40 C (-40 F also) or below, haha, it sucks down here in Canada

[MattyK]

You guys are complaining about -10 F (23.3333333 C) I get -40 C (-40 F also) or below, haha, it sucks down here in Canada

yeah it really does suck being 'up' here in australia.

[jav6454]

You guys are complaining about -10 F (23.3333333 C) I get -40 C (-40 F also) or below, haha, it sucks down here in Canada

When its -273 K outside Canadians are having the last barbecue (BBQ) of the summer.

No kidding.... I don't know if I would ever get used to that cold.

[Tosser]

I don't know... an HD would seem like the most likely thing to survive. Today, my dad washed his phone. I tried to put his SIM card in my phone and it worked fine, even though it looked like it was ruined. The phone doesn't work anymore though. These might seem like two completely different comparisons, but there is always hope.

SAVE YOUR HD! The files on my Mac are worth more than the computer itself in my opinion. I have an external drive in case my HD crashes or something.

Good Luck! Just let it dry out for a couple of days and hopefully the files will be readable. I'm sorry to hear about your house!

A sim-card has no moving parts whereas a HDD has some very miniscule moving parts. These moving parts are certainly frozen, and because water expands when it freezes the HD is most certainly not salvageable.

Anyway, to the op: It's always sad to have your house burn down. It has happened to me twice. Once when I was a kid - the 23rd of december - and once when I was an adult – some short circuit in the building because some dufus electrician thought he'd save two bucks and three minutes of work getting the proper thingy from his truck.

This sort of thing has (again) gotten me to think about getting more online storage, even if I do hate having to upload stuff and have it one someone else's servers.


Anyway, good luck to you. :)

[paolo-]

When its -273 K outside Canadians are having the last barbecue (BBQ) of the summer.

No kidding.... I don't know if I would ever get used to that cold.

Yep, canadians are tuff, even 273 degres after (below) their atoms have stopped moving, they still crack up a bbq. ;)

[anirban]

For some reason, I was expecting screenshots of a kernel panic.... silly me, what was I thinking!?!?

[RTiii320]

You guys are complaining about -10 F (23.3333333 C) I get -40 C (-40 F also) or below, haha, it sucks down here in Canada

you mean up there in Canada??:D

I couldn't imagine it being that cold.

OP, sorry about your loss.:(

[cogsinister]

-10????? good god where do you live?

It was like -27c here the other night.....

[J&JPolangin]

... any fire is rough this time of year, sorry for your loss...

[Mercellus]

Sorry to hear about the fire, it's certainly tough and a bad time for it to happen and I can tell you that to some extent I feel your pain, my house flooded out on the 25th of December and a lot of stuff got ruined. Having just dealt with the insurance company, my recommendation would to be to file a claim with your insurance company, make sure you take lots of pictures. If your insurance company has already come to assess the damage and make an estimate, make sure that you mention the MacBook on your claim, include the pictures you've taken as well (they may have already taken their own if they have come into the home already).

The second thing you should do is try to dry it out, this is something that the insurance companies will ask you all the time when you try to file a claim - "have you dried it out?"

To do so, firstly remove the battery and then attempt to thaw it out at "room temperature" (~ 22*C). Once it is thawed, place the computer in a sealed container of rice for a few days and let it absorb what it can, and then remove it from the rice and let the rest of the water run out. Once the water has run out, place it in a fresh container of rice for another 3 to 5 days to absorb the rest of the moisture.

If the computer was on at the time when it was drenched in water, there is a very slim chance that this might work. Regardless, it's worth a shot. If you can't get the computer to start up once it has been fully dried out, remove the hard drive and take it to a Genius Bar or to an authorized repair center to see if the data is salvageable, at least that way you won't lose your data.

Good luck, and hang in there. It may not look like it now, but things will get better. :)

[MacBoobsPro]

"It won't turn on"

Hehe thats too funny.

*The situation isn't funny. The OP expecting it might turn on is funny. :D

Take it to a Genius Bar (still frozen to the table)and say "It won't turn on".

My dog is dead. Why is the mail piling up at the door?

Seriously though sorry to hear about the fire. Hope everybody got out ok and there wasn't too much damage.

[djellison]

repair permissions.

That'll do it.


On a serious not - contents insurance, or, if you bought it with a Credit Card - check with you CC firm - it may be covered by them.

Doug

[Jisuo]

Have you tried rebooting?

[andyhargreaves]

alright, repair permissions and reset the PRAM.

Have you tried rebooting?

Ctrl-Alt-Del

Frozen macbook is still less broken than a Windows laptop, surely?

;)

Good luck with the Insurance.

[vendettabass]

alright, repair permissions and reset the PRAM.

win!

[UltraNEO*]

A few days ago my house caught on fire and i had my macbook sitting open on the table... as you can see it was frozen to the table from the firemen drenching it with water while it was -10 degrees outside... It won't turn on. Any suggestions?


At a glance, I thought you stuck it in the chiller cause it's burning up... :rolleyes:
Well, sorry to hear your house caught fire though. :(

[likemyorbs]

It was like -27c here the other night.....

and i thought 40F was bad... i'm starting to appreciate new jersey's climate...