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TEG
Mar 2, 2004, 07:59 PM
On the heels of "The Best Movie" Thread, I'd like to see what people think are the worst movies of all time.

For Me:

Scarface
Gigli
The Wedding Planner
The Godfather Pt. 3
Crossroads
Battlefield Earth


TEG



applemacdude
Mar 2, 2004, 08:04 PM
On the heels of "The Best Movie" Thread, I'd like to see what people think are the worst movies of all time.

For Me:

Scarface
Gigli
The Wedding Planner
The Godfather Pt. 3
Crossroads
Battlefield Earth


TEG

Kung Pow....Horrible stupid movie....

richland
Mar 2, 2004, 08:06 PM
Kung Pow....Horrible stupid movie....


That was pretty damn funny I thought.

vollspacken
Mar 2, 2004, 08:22 PM
- Matrix Revolutions
- Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones

I can't decide which one is more horrible. both movies are such huge piles of dogpoo it makes you wanna throw up...

the negatives and or digital originals and all copies of these two pieces of junk should be destroyed!!!

vSpacken

gwuMACaddict
Mar 2, 2004, 08:36 PM
For Me:

Scarface
Gigli
The Wedding Planner
The Godfather Pt. 3
Crossroads
Battlefield Earth

can we assume you've seen these? i mean, i would assume that gigli and crossroads sucked, but i never saw them so i wouldn't list them...

movies i've seen that i thought were awful:
1. dude, where's my car?
2. the sweetest thing

wdlove
Mar 2, 2004, 08:39 PM
"Scarface" definitely does not deserve to be on this list. It is a classic Al Pachino movie.

jefhatfield
Mar 2, 2004, 08:56 PM
if you want to judge a movie on accuracy, then a movie like top gun is terrible, but from the point of a quick moving story, then it's fine

i have watched hundreds of movies and some have been so bad that i almost got offended...but there is one movie i won't pay to go see and that's the passion of the christ by mel gibson

throughout all the controversy, i met a friend of mel gibson's who told me all about the movie and mel and i found out about all the dirt from the controversy a week before the television networks started the whole controversy thing and it was weird when it all aired and i heard all the stuff she told me

i am a christian but i am a protestant and i can't watch a movie that adds some unproven catholic mythology into the mix because mel gibson belongs to a catholic cult (opus dei) which is banned from the catholic church itself

among one of the strange beliefs this cult believes in is that all protestants are going to hell yet opus dei is condemned by the pope and not recognized as a catholic entity...mel thinks that his wife won't go to heaven because she is not a catholic

i have an employee who is a jehovah witness who believes i cannot go to heaven unless i am a jehovah witness...any christian entity like opus dei or the jehovah witnesses who only think "members" are the only ones to go to heaven is not only a closed minded splinter group, but a cult which practices mind control

so i cannot condone a movie made from the perspective of a cultist who has some revisionist ideas of christ and salvation

a christian does not have to be a catholic, or a protestant for that matter and a christian is someone who believes jesus died on the cross for their sins...period...not some dogma from a splinter group that makes enemies of all protestants and the general body of the catholic church under the pope

what i don't like is that mel has decided to play "nice" to us damned to hell protestants for his movie so he can get sales while in the meantime, any of us protestant christians who die must surely go to hell for not being catholic...what gives mel?

Golem
Mar 2, 2004, 10:04 PM
Well some stinkers dont actually make it to the movies but just go straight to video.

Cant comment on a few here like gigli,wedding planner because i havent been dumb enough to go watch them.

But Ishtar,Pluto Nash and Kung pow have to be up their.

Thinking back,brought back memories of some of Peter Jacksons early movies but they were good if you like shlocky horror. Guy running around with a lawn mower killing zombies comes to mind.:)

Krizoitz
Mar 2, 2004, 10:10 PM
Not Another Teen Movie
National Lampoons: Van Wilder
Pulp Fiction (sorry I know alot of you disagree)
Disney's Hunchback of Notre Dame
A.I.

Laslo Panaflex
Mar 2, 2004, 10:17 PM
This is the worst movie I have ever seen and probably the worst movie ever.

Going Overboard (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1573625574/104-5028246-6873511?v=glance)

Here (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/click/movie-1059864/reviews.php?critic=all&sortby=default&page=1&rid=39986) is a pretty complete review of the movie.

Even if you think you can handle this movie, you are wrong. I thought, hey how bad could it be? Well, if I was watching this movie and my doctor called and told me I had an inoperable brain tumor, I would be relieved because soon I would be dead, and along with me the memories of this film.

/end rant

and yes it is really that bad.

gwuMACaddict
Mar 2, 2004, 10:22 PM
...but there is one movie i won't pay to go see and that's the passion of the christ by mel gibson


jeff, leave it at that for this thread... c'mon, there are a MILLON other threads here about that movie and all that jazz with the politics and beliefs... don't bastardize this thread like that by bringing that argument stuff in here... i thought this thread was gonna be a lot more lighthearted than that...http://www.cripplefight.com/smileys/lame.gif

Sun Baked
Mar 2, 2004, 10:22 PM
The worst movie to ever spawn a sequal (after being proclaimed worst movie ever), and a Saturday Morning cartoon series -- Attack of the Killer Tomatoes.

But that was years ago, I'm quite sure the quality of movies has tanked since then. ;)

Stelliform
Mar 2, 2004, 10:35 PM
Waterworld
The Postman

See a trend? :D

Nanda Devi
Mar 2, 2004, 10:37 PM
"Scarface" definitely does not deserve to be on this list. It is a classic Al Pachino movie.

THANK YOU! I was just waiting for someone to say that.... Scarface is a great film. Great director, too - Brian DePalma. Light years aways from worst movie of all time (although if I remember right there were a few on TEG's list of best movies that I might put in the "worst movie" category... weren't all three Matrix movies on there?!?! Ugh.)

themadchemist
Mar 2, 2004, 10:44 PM
THANK YOU! I was just waiting for someone to say that.... Scarface is a great film. Great director, too - Brian DePalma. Light years aways from worst movie of all time (although if I remember right there were a few on TEG's list of best movies that I might put in the "worst movie" category... weren't all three Matrix movies on there?!?! Ugh.)

Yeah, the first Matrix movie was good, DESPITE some terrible directing and screenwriting...It had the right concept and the story had the right feel of a futuristic epic that didn't turn into a pre-teen comic.

But things just got more and more and more ridiculous. I didn't even go see the third movie, but the second one was unbearable.

Oh, worst movie? The Real Cancún. There are few movies one is embarrassed to admit that he/she actually watched. A couple of my friends and I saw it at a discount theatre for the laughs. If you sat back and watched what the hell these guys were trying to pass off as a serious, credible movie, you couldn't help but laugh your ass off.

Unfortunately, one of my friends noticed that someone was going all Pee Wee Herman up in there.

Nanda Devi
Mar 2, 2004, 10:47 PM
Oh, and I forgot to post my picks for worst flick of all time. This is a tough one, there's so much rubbish coming out of that cesspool called Hollywood....

My top votes would be:

1. Any big-budget, special-effects driven blockbuster, especially those with strong patriotic undertones (you know, the movies that everyone flocks to because they're so "entertaining").
2. Any movie that is coined "The Feel-Good Movie of the Year"
3. Just about anything that is a sequel.
4. Anything with Jennifer Anniston or any other member of the Friends cast in it.

Vector
Mar 2, 2004, 10:49 PM
Not Another Teen Movie
National Lampoons: Van Wilder
Pulp Fiction (sorry I know alot of you disagree)
Disney's Hunchback of Notre Dame
A.I.

What is your problem with pulp fiction?

The worst movie ever as far as production values go is Plan 9 from Outer Space. Ecerpt from IMDB:

I should think that anyone with an abiding interest in films has at least heard of this movie, and of its director, Ed Wood. Everyone agrees it is a bad movie. Many people feel it is so awful that is hilarious. I have no reason to argue with these people. I have watched this movie on tape, stopping it to examine it in detail at each outrage: the awful dialogue, the wooden acting, the unbelievable props ... everything about this movie is awful, so bad that it has to be seen and examined to be believed.

I wish to take a little of the time of anyone who is reading this to argue that you cannot have art without craft. A monkey may throw dung at people, but that does not make him a cogent speaker. All he communicates is anger. Mr. Wood may have had excellent intentions when he wrote, produced and directed this film. He may have intended to make some serious statements. All that comes across is an ineptness so profound that people watch this as a prime example of bad movie making.
...
However, that does not dignify this work with any value, nor does the cloak of "art." I feel sorry for Mr. Wood, but he had no talent, no ability and no resources. This is an awful film.

Without ability, you cannot have art, despite the insistence of so many modern artists. In another bad film of the era, BUCKET OF BLOOD, the protagonist wishes to be a sculptor. He takes home clay and attempts to model a bust. His technique of sculpting a nose is to smash on the clay and command it "Be a nose!"

Roger Corman, who directed that movie, made cheap movies intended for the drive-in circuit and knew he was making cheap movies. He knew you cannot make art with just good intentions, only a mess. It is a pity that some of the learned commentators on cinema cannot seem to understand this.

miloblithe
Mar 2, 2004, 10:59 PM
Actually, Plan Nine From Outer Space is by far Ed Wood's best movie, so it can't really be the worst one too. Glen or Glenda, Ed Wood's movie about cross-dressing is my vote. It conveys a complete lack of any idea about how movies work--it's kind of mystifying.

Vector
Mar 2, 2004, 11:10 PM
I forgot which actor it was, but he died after barely filming part of Plan 9 and woods included that part and then just replaced him. It was so obvious, but in a movie such as Plan 9 it is one of the lesser flaws.

scem0
Mar 2, 2004, 11:16 PM
Kung Pow....Horrible stupid movie....

That is the funniest movie ever!

The baby rolling down the hill is classic. As is the woman who made the funny noises when she talked.

Now I want to rent that movie!

Worst movie of all time..... Hmmmmm...... That's a hard one.

I'd have to say Mars Attacks.

That was painful to watch.

scem0

RBMaraman
Mar 2, 2004, 11:30 PM
I'll add a few to the list:

1. Zoolander
2. Blue Crush.

janey
Mar 2, 2004, 11:35 PM
from justin to kelly (i personally didnt see this but everyone thought it was crap)
crossroads (that britney spears movie)
glitter (the mariah carey movie)
gigli
matrix revolutions
matrix reloaded

Hehe.

Sayhey
Mar 2, 2004, 11:55 PM
We had this discussion a couple of months back and Awimoway pointed out the best review of the WORST movie ever - Pokemon: The Movie 2000. Read and tell me you aren't convinced!

Pukemon (http://ericdsnider.com/view.php?srkey=178)

themadchemist
Mar 3, 2004, 12:08 AM
Oh, and I forgot to post my picks for worst flick of all time. This is a tough one, there's so much rubbish coming out of that cesspool called Hollywood....


4. Anything with Jennifer Anniston or any other member of the Friends cast in it.

Generally, I would agree with you. BUT OFFICE SPACE?! Come on. Have you never heard of OFFICE SPACE?!

janey
Mar 3, 2004, 12:10 AM
Generally, I would agree with you. BUT OFFICE SPACE?! Come on. Have you never heard of OFFICE SPACE?!
hehe yeah
that was one hell of a funny and great movie :D

Krizoitz
Mar 3, 2004, 12:28 AM
What is your problem with pulp fiction?

Its one of those movies where it struck me like the director was just making it to make some artsy/edgie movie that everyone would be all like, oh this is such a great movie, its so artistic, and deep, etc etc etc.

To me it was a lot of guns and a lot of swearing with no point.

themadchemist
Mar 3, 2004, 12:41 AM
Can't forget the cinematic version of Medea. Boy was that unbearable!

also, Mel Gibson & Glen Close in Hamlet?! How DISGUSTING!

MacNut
Mar 3, 2004, 01:25 AM
Worst movies Scream trilogy

MacNut
Mar 3, 2004, 01:29 AM
Its one of those movies where it struck me like the director was just making it to make some artsy/edgie movie that everyone would be all like, oh this is such a great movie, its so artistic, and deep, etc etc etc.

To me it was a lot of guns and a lot of swearing with no point.

That is one of the best movies of all time, dont get me started but you better not say LOTR is better than Pulp Fiction.

etoiles
Mar 3, 2004, 02:03 AM
Its one of those movies where it struck me like the director was just making it to make some artsy/edgie movie that everyone would be all like, oh this is such a great movie, its so artistic, and deep, etc etc etc.

To me it was a lot of guns and a lot of swearing with no point.

so, how did you like 'Kill Bill' ? :p

Wardofsky
Mar 3, 2004, 02:29 AM
Existience...
By far the worst.

:D

Krizoitz
Mar 3, 2004, 02:32 AM
That is one of the best movies of all time, dont get me started but you better not say LOTR is better than Pulp Fiction.

In a heart beat. Sorry I tire of pretentious artsy movies like Pulp Fiction, LOTR is done for one reason, to tell a fantastic story. Pulp Fiction? I don't think thats why it was made.

Krizoitz
Mar 3, 2004, 02:34 AM
so, how did you like 'Kill Bill' ? :p

Didn't see it, I don't much care for Quentin Tarantino

Thanatoast
Mar 3, 2004, 02:50 AM
mafia - the only movie i've ever considered walking out of the theater from

sorority boys - made it five minutes into it, then turned it off

sooper troopers - ugh. 'nuff said

now whoever said van wilder, otoh, obiviously has no taste in fine filmaking. :p that was a great movie, i don't know why people don't like it. i've found people have a love it/hate it relationship with that movie

Benjamin
Mar 3, 2004, 03:04 AM
people actually went to see Gigli, what a crazy world. anyway i think battle field earth is pretty much takes the cake for me, since i haven't seen what is said to be the worst movie of all.

Krizoitz
Mar 3, 2004, 03:27 AM
now whoever said van wilder, otoh, obiviously has no taste in fine filmaking. :p that was a great movie, i don't know why people don't like it. i've found people have a love it/hate it relationship with that movie

because it was a disgusting movie that gave praise to everything that is wrong with college guys today. Massive drinking, treating women like crap, reinforcing the stereotype that anyone who is actually working hard is somehow stuck up and wasting their time and they would be better of just partying all the time and wallowing in other hedonistic pleasures. Now I am by far not one for saying movies can't be about fun and screwing off (Ferris Beullers Day Off is classic) But VanWilder was made with the lowest class humor and over the edge immorality that makes me sick.

Savage Henry
Mar 3, 2004, 03:38 AM
People, people, calm down. For you are all wrong.

I have remorselessly trekked the length and breadth of many lands to find someone who actually thought Dan Ackroyd was wise to make Blues Brothers 2000. I found no one.

He also ruined the first one by only making the DVD release have all the unnecessary "directors" footage, and packaging it with it's emabarrasing sequel for if he didn't he knows it wouldn't sell a single copy.

Thanatoast
Mar 3, 2004, 03:40 AM
because it was a disgusting movie that gave praise to everything that is wrong with college guys today. Massive drinking, treating women like crap, reinforcing the stereotype that anyone who is actually working hard is somehow stuck up and wasting their time and they would be better of just partying all the time and wallowing in other hedonistic pleasures. Now I am by far not one for saying movies can't be about fun and screwing off (Ferris Beullers Day Off is classic) But VanWilder was made with the lowest class humor and over the edge immorality that makes me sick.
Now I'm gonna have to disagree with that assesment. Was Van Wilder guilty of using toilet humor? Yes, at times, but certainly not any more than any other low-brow comedy in recent years. The scene which seems to turn people off, with the eclairs, simply went further than anyone else has been willing to go. It rubbed peoples' faces in their reactions. It was a logical extension of the trend, and for people (I'm not saying you specifically, Krizoitz, you may be consistent in your views, i dunno) to be offended by it when they are perfectly fine with the other crap (pun unintended) out there, I think is kind of stupid.

As for your first issues, I never once in the movie saw any of the main character good guys participate in massive drinking, treating women like crap, or saying hard work was for losers. In fact, Van Wilder was perfectly capable of working hard, but chose not to, not to belittle those who do, but because he had the option. Wouldn't you? As soon as he no longer had the option, he worked very hard at staying *in* school, and finally, graduating.

Sedulous
Mar 3, 2004, 03:43 AM
A Hard Way To Die (aka "Sun Dragon")

I can't even find a link to describe the movie. According to Amazon it is somewhere below 52,000 most popular. To be honest, I enjoyed this movie BECAUSE it is so bad. It is "blaxploitation" mixed with kung fu at a scale that is unprecedented. To make it even better, I think it was filmed in engrished, dubbed over to chinese... then for some reason dubbed back to english. Hilarious dialogue such as "It is your bad luck... to meet me... to-day".

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/6305104220.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

MongoTheGeek
Mar 3, 2004, 09:20 AM
Not Another Teen Movie
National Lampoons: Van Wilder
Pulp Fiction (sorry I know alot of you disagree)
Disney's Hunchback of Notre Dame
A.I.

Sad... I would put the last 3 as some of the best movies of all times... I guess its all subjective. I will agree that the ending of Hunchback blew, and that AI dragged on but both all in all were pretty good.

scem0
Mar 3, 2004, 09:24 AM
glitter (the mariah carey movie)
matrix revolutions
matrix reloaded

Glitter wasn't bad.... I think it got a worse rap than it deserved.

As for the revolutions and reloaded, they were good movies. Just not up to par with the first one. I wouldn't put them on a worst movies of all time list though.

scem0

MongoTheGeek
Mar 3, 2004, 09:31 AM
I forgot which actor it was, but he died after barely filming part of Plan 9 and woods included that part and then just replaced him. It was so obvious, but in a movie such as Plan 9 it is one of the lesser flaws.

Bela Lugosi. Its sad how many actors make total crap movies as their last film. I guess they die from shame...

Street Fighter with Raul Julia.

I did a search for Plan 9 (really really really bad) and found a sequel...

search for outerspace on the IMDB... frightening.

Foxer
Mar 3, 2004, 10:16 AM
Any of the Highlander sequels. Awful. I didn't care for the original, either.

Whoever said Star Wars Episode II is high. It's not the best of those films, but it ain't the worst film of all time by any measure.

vollspacken
Mar 3, 2004, 10:29 AM
Whoever said Star Wars Episode II is high. It's not the best of those films, but it ain't the worst film of all time by any measure.

... hehe, I'm not high :p

but I might get pretty drunk tonight...

vSpacken

Krizoitz
Mar 3, 2004, 11:09 AM
Sad... I would put the last 3 as some of the best movies of all times... I guess its all subjective. I will agree that the ending of Hunchback blew, and that AI dragged on but both all in all were pretty good.

I just think Disney animation and the Hunchback of Notre Dame just weren't meant for each other.

As for AI, great concept, but it felt like two seperate movies crammed together with duct tape and bailing wire, and then left to slowly die like used batteries petering out...

Krizoitz
Mar 3, 2004, 11:12 AM
Any of the Highlander sequels. Awful. I didn't care for the original, either.

Whoever said Star Wars Episode II is high. It's not the best of those films, but it ain't the worst film of all time by any measure.

I agree, there is a difference between most dissapointing and worst

Vector
Mar 3, 2004, 11:38 AM
Any of the Highlander sequels. Awful. I didn't care for the original, either.


I liked the original highlander. The second one is good, watchable but not as good as the first, if you watch the director's cut instead of the version that went to theaters that tries to make them seem like aliens. By the third it gets kind of repetative. The third doesn't really make sense either. Why was he able to grow old in the second movie, because he killed all of the other immortals on earth, but then there is another one all of a sudden in the third that never really died. The last one sucked, they tried to bring the show and the movies together.

jefhatfield
Mar 3, 2004, 11:45 AM
I liked the original highlander. The second one is good, watchable but not as good as the first, if you watch the director's cut instead of the version that went to theaters that tries to make them seem like aliens. By the third it gets kind of repetative. The third doesn't really make sense either. Why was he able to grow old in the second movie, because he killed all of the other immortals on earth, but then there is another one all of a sudden in the third that never really died. The last one sucked, they tried to bring the show and the movies together.


while i didn't like the second movie and thought the first was great, one highlander fan told me about the tv series for a long time

i was never really interested and then he got two vhs highlander tv series sets...season 2 and best of...so i watched the first two episodes of season 2 and i was very impressed...it certainly was much better than the second highlander movie

MongoTheGeek
Mar 3, 2004, 01:23 PM
I liked the original highlander. The second one is good, watchable but not as good as the first, if you watch the director's cut instead of the version that went to theaters that tries to make them seem like aliens. By the third it gets kind of repetative. The third doesn't really make sense either. Why was he able to grow old in the second movie, because he killed all of the other immortals on earth, but then there is another one all of a sudden in the third that never really died. The last one sucked, they tried to bring the show and the movies together.

From what I heard the director said #2 never happened/doesn't exist.

It was bad...

#3 wasn't too bad (if you ignore #2)

synergy
Mar 3, 2004, 02:35 PM
Highlander 2 sucked royally.

I am a Robin Williams fan, but thought What Dreams May Come was very bad.

edesignuk
Mar 3, 2004, 03:05 PM
James Bond - On Her Majesty’s Secret Service

That film SUCKED!!!!

wordmunger
Mar 3, 2004, 03:18 PM
'Nuff said.

MongoTheGeek
Mar 3, 2004, 03:48 PM
Highlander 2 sucked royally.

I am a Robin Williams fan, but thought What Dreams May Come was very bad.

I was too taken in by the look of it to tell if it was good or bad. There was so much delicious eye candy.

Vector
Mar 3, 2004, 03:59 PM
James Bond - On Her Majesty’s Secret Service

That film SUCKED!!!!

I have heard this so often, and I thought the same thing when i watched it the first few times. Something changed my mind. OHMSS is not my favorite bond movie by far, but it hardly deserves to be in this thread. Lazenby's perforamance was lacking, but the story and the production were good.

Foxer
Mar 3, 2004, 04:53 PM
James Bond - On Her Majesty’s Secret Service

That film SUCKED!!!!

That's one of my favourite Bond films. Dianna Rigg was awesome.

Never Say Never Again ...now that one was BAD

virividox
Mar 3, 2004, 05:05 PM
house of the dead

dont watch it because it will waste your time, and it alredy wasted mine

2jaded2care
Mar 3, 2004, 05:28 PM
Supernova (James Spader, Angela Bassett) was the most painful for me. I like Walter Hll's movies sometimes, but this one made me seasick and sleepy at the same time. The camera never stops floating around. Story was derivative and, oh, what's the word -- oh yeah: BORING!

D*I*S_Frontman
Mar 3, 2004, 05:28 PM
The original Highlander was a B movie at best, but I loved it anyway. The Queen soundtrack was a big draw, as well as the mystery of all of it. The immortals know the rules, but don't have a clue WHY things are the way they are. They just go with it. Good fun. And the Kurgan was a GREAT bad guy.

Highlander II was not only the very worst movie ever made, it effectively ruined it for anyone who saw the original. All the mysteries are explained, and the explanations are stooopid beyond all measure, even for the forgiving bounds of sci-fi. I watched it in the theater with my best friend (also a Highlander fan) and we were both debating whether or not to even stay through the second half. I felt like socking the ticket-tearer in the gut for even allowing me to walk in to that stinkburger.

The other Highlander sequels were not as bad, but the damage was done. You can't ignore the elephant in the living room, or, in this case, the elephant-sized pile of steaming dog crap.

2jaded2care
Mar 3, 2004, 05:33 PM
Oh yeah, how could I forget Alien3 ?

I can imagine the preproduction meeting:

"Hey, I've got it --let's just ruin the franchise!"
"Great thinking! Another million for you!"...

Freakk123
Mar 3, 2004, 06:07 PM
The worst movies I've ever seen:
The Matrix Revolutions
The Matrix Reloaded
Daredevil
The Hulk

All terrible to sit through... And I saw them all this year :(
Oh well... Other than those four, this year was excellent for movies, IMHO.

MacMarino
Mar 3, 2004, 06:11 PM
*Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas*, i came out of the movie theatre as if i'd just had a lobotomy.

MacMarino :p

singspiel
Mar 3, 2004, 06:58 PM
On the heels of "The Best Movie" Thread, I'd like to see what people think are the worst movies of all time.

For Me:

Scarface
Gigli
The Wedding Planner
The Godfather Pt. 3
Crossroads
Battlefield Earth


TEG

LOST IN TRANSLATION
it was a waste of 10 dollars

vollspacken
Mar 3, 2004, 07:20 PM
James Bond - On Her Majesty’s Secret Service

That film SUCKED!!!!

sorry, but are you smoking crack? that is one of the best bond movies EVER!!!

...and Lazenby was an idiot to refuse that 7 movie contract by EON!

vSpacken

Nanda Devi
Mar 3, 2004, 07:58 PM
Generally, I would agree with you. BUT OFFICE SPACE?! Come on. Have you never heard of OFFICE SPACE?!

Ok, I'll admit I didn't see it, didn't even realize that someone from Friends is in it (who is it, Anniston?) but I have heard it's funny so I guess I can make that a tentative exception to my Friends-cast rule...

themadchemist
Mar 3, 2004, 08:03 PM
Ok, I'll admit I didn't see it, didn't even realize that someone from Friends is in it (who is it, Anniston?) but I have heard it's funny so I guess I can make that a tentative exception to my Friends-cast rule...

Yeah, Aniston's in it. I'll admit, her performance isn't the greatest of the cast, but it isn't written to be so. Either way, I'm glad that you'll remove that from the list. Office Space appreciation needs to keep rising. :)

Either way, you should definitely see it.

Vector
Mar 3, 2004, 09:29 PM
*Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas*, i came out of the movie theatre as if i'd just had a lobotomy.

MacMarino :p


I disagree. but it is quite funny that this is in both the best and the worst movie threads.

MongoTheGeek
Mar 3, 2004, 11:37 PM
I disagree. but it is quite funny that this is in both the best and the worst movie threads.

There are a lot of movies and books like that where you love it or hate it. My wife has figured out that any book that makes it onto Orpah's list is going to be bad and half of the movies that I like are going to be bad. It really takes a piece of truely abysmal trash to be universally hated. There are a number of movies on the IMDB with bimodal distribution of rankings with a lot giving it a 9 and a lot giving it a 1 and almost noone at 5.

womencantsail
Mar 4, 2004, 12:26 AM
Anything with the Olsen Twins.

Sheebahawk
Mar 4, 2004, 01:31 AM
AI? well I can see how you can hate it, but I loved it (wouldnt watch it again though)
SCARFACE?!?!?

AND fear and loathing in las vegas? a lobotomy might do you some good, would do me good if you got one.

reading that people think those belong on the list is nearly enough to make me run out and buy a PC, just to disassociate myself from the rest of you.

and in her majest's secret service was an abortion of cinema. Id rather solder my eyes than watch five minutes of that film

heres a list of more current ones that I feel belong on the list of all time worst:
Training Day
OCeans 11 and the italian job, (the remakes of course) (I consider them two parts of the same evil whole)
austin powers 3

I wont even express my more controversial opinions on movies, some of which have landed me in bar fights.

Sheebahawk
Mar 4, 2004, 01:36 AM
oh yeah, theres been a lot of crappy sequels, but none as bad as...

Grease 2

IndyGopher
Mar 4, 2004, 03:20 AM
Plenty of the movies listed here do in fact truly suck.. The part I don't understand, though, is why anyone even SAW most of the movies listed here... I mean.. Seriously. Why would anyone pay to see Gigli? Crossroads? Did you think they re-released the Ralph Macchio movie? Were you hoping it would be an Eric Clapton concert movie?
Someone said a disappointing movie and a bad movie were not the same thing, and I agree in theory, but unless you live in a vacuum, most of the really bad movies have had really bad reviews long before you get the chance to waste money on them. So unless you go to a movie expecting it NOT to suck, then bad and disappointing kind of have to be the same thing.

Like everyone else, I have seen plenty of movies that I was warned not to see. Some because I was dragged to them by people who refuse to listen to reason ("come on, Eliminators sounds like a great movie!") and some because I am stubborn and will see any movie by a particular director or containing a favorite actor or actress. (My long-ago vow to see every movie with Clancy Brown has come back to bite me several times... Pet Sematary II, anyone? but it also got me to see The Bride, which I liked quite a bit more than I would have expected)

The_Dood
Mar 4, 2004, 04:52 AM
'Nuff said.

What?? Dumb and Dumber totally had me rolling on the floor laughing, and it still cracks me up even after seeing it so many times.

I'd say the worst movie ever was Drop Dead Fred... you could see the boom in the picture and the shadows of the movie crew sooo many times! Also, The Next Karate Kid should never have been made. :mad:

schatten
Mar 4, 2004, 05:24 AM
Space Mutiny is pretty damn awful. all the sets looked like they shot the "space ship" interiors in a rented factrory (which they did) and the exterior shots were just stock footage they stole from Battlestar Galactca. The acting is abyssmal, the directing even worse.

The MST3K showing of it is damn hilarious though. :p

edesignuk
Mar 4, 2004, 05:26 AM
sorry, but are you smoking crack? that is one of the best bond movies EVER!!!

...and Lazenby was an idiot to refuse that 7 movie contract by EON!

vSpacken
No, I'm not on crack, the film was complete sh*t. It's the only Bond movie I cannot stand to watch, and I'm a big Bond fan.

wrc fan
Mar 4, 2004, 06:38 AM
I hated Lord of the Rings. Whoever was stupid enough to let Peter Jackson write and direct (I mean, didn't the bother seeing any of his previous films, sheesh, he's not the person I would pick for it), plus casting Elijah Wood, Liv Tyler, and Cate Blanchett in it should be shot. Even the cheesy animated version is better than it.

punkmac
Mar 4, 2004, 07:29 AM
Easy easy easy!

HOT POTATO!

with Jim Kelly Star of Black Belt Jones.

It's not even Bad Good. Just Horrible!

We rented it and the tape was not rewound, halfway into the movie.

The reason for this is because the person before could not make it through the whole film.

After trying to watch it we ejected the tape and it was in the same spot the other person left it!

Bad!

I.

MongoTheGeek
Mar 4, 2004, 08:18 AM
What?? Dumb and Dumber totally had me rolling on the floor laughing, and it still cracks me up even after seeing it so many times.

I'd say the worst movie ever was Drop Dead Fred... you could see the boom in the picture and the shadows of the movie crew sooo many times! Also, The Next Karate Kid should never have been made. :mad:

I will confess to seeing all of the above movies. Dumb and Dumber was by far the worst of them. The only redeeming thing in the movie was Jim Carrey's humor. The problem is if thats what I want I'll just go watch reruns of the Duck Factory or In Living Color

I loved Drop Dead Fred. It was a wonderful movie about being yourself.

The Next Karate Kid was bad in the context of the first one. It was a tired sequel but on the whole it wasn't any worse than most of the movies that 13 girls go to see.

JesseJames
Mar 4, 2004, 09:57 AM
Ever see Death Wish 4 with Charles Bronson? That movie claims to be action but damn, it belongs in the comedy genre. I never laughed so hard in my life! Especially the part when Chuck and that cop start running down the street shooting at punks like it's Hogan's Alley. Holy crap I fell on the floor rolling.

TEG
Mar 4, 2004, 10:16 AM
James Bond - On Her Majesty’s Secret Service

That film SUCKED!!!!

AMEN!!!!

Also... Never Say Never Again is NOT an offical James Bond Movie, it was done by a third party and was only purchased by MGM/UA in like 1998. Also, although it is a little hokey, it was a decient 007 movie.

More Bad Movies;

Signs
A.I.
The Lost World: Jurassic Park 2
Ishtar
Grease
Grease 2
54
Saturday Night Fever
West Side Story
Gone With the Wind - Really romancing an evil time with evil people.

BTW: What Dreams May Come, was a good movie, not a great movie, just a good movie.
Also, All the movies I talk about, I have seen. Sometimes on purpose, other times I was conned into watching them.

TEG

Krizoitz
Mar 4, 2004, 10:42 AM
Signs
....
Gone With the Wind - Really romancing an evil time with evil people.

I disagree with you on signs, but I can understand why some people might not like it.

As for GWtW, hear hear, totally agree.

Ondelette
Mar 4, 2004, 11:01 AM
I'll add a few to the list:

1. Zoolander
2. Blue Crush.

Zoolander? I loved Zoolander (the gas station scene alone is worth the rental fee). My vote for worst recent movie goes to Hollywood Homicide.

e-coli
Mar 4, 2004, 11:02 AM
Scarface
The Godfather Pt. 3


Blasphemy!!!

LOST IN TRANSLATION
it was a waste of 10 dollars

More Blasphemy!!!

;)

For me, it's hands down Eye for an Eye with Keifer Sutherland and Sally Field. And The Matrix Reloaded. Both Absolutely horrible movies.

Except that motorcycle chase scene in Matrix Reloaded may be the best chase scene ever put on film. Other than that, a miserable film.

Krizoitz
Mar 4, 2004, 11:51 AM
And The Matrix Reloaded. Both Absolutely horrible movies.

Except that motorcycle chase scene in Matrix Reloaded may be the best chase scene ever put on film. Other than that, a miserable film.

I don't think the Matrix sequels were so much bad as dissapointing.

Raid
Mar 4, 2004, 01:04 PM
Well the worst mainstream movie I ever saw was Fargo... I saw it in a dollar theater during a lightning storm and between the bad accents and constant power interruptions I almost asked for my dollar back!

Now if we are talking B movies, I suggest Octoman. The only entertainment we got from it was openly mocking it. :)

jefhatfield
Mar 4, 2004, 01:39 PM
Well the worst mainstream movie I ever saw was Fargo... I saw it in a dollar theater during a lightning storm and between the bad accents and constant power interruptions I almost asked for my dollar back!

Now if we are talking B movies, I suggest Octoman. The only entertainment we got from it was openly mocking it. :)

rent fargo, the wood chipper scene is worth the rental fee ;)

i liked the movie a lot and the big lebowski, by the same people, was also offbeat and worth the money...i think those movies were never made to be blockbusters but they did get the attention of mainstream movie critics

Apmonia
Mar 4, 2004, 02:07 PM
Existience...
By far the worst.

:D

How you can think that this is the worst movie of all time is baffling. I would have a hard time believing you actually saw this. This movie is what The Matrix only wished it could be, an actual story with real writing instead of cool special effects and no substance. Cronenberg is a genius!

singspiel
Mar 4, 2004, 02:51 PM
Spice Girls the Movie...

jenniff
Mar 4, 2004, 03:06 PM
On the heels of "The Best Movie" Thread, I'd like to see what people think are the worst movies of all time.

Do Mystery Science Theater 3000 movies count? The worst out of all the MST3K was definitely "Manos": The Hands of Fate. I tried watching it a second time just for the wisecracks, but I couldn't endure the horrid waste of film.

parrothead
Mar 4, 2004, 03:17 PM
Two of the worst movies ever made: The Fast and the Furious, and 2 Fast 2 Furious.

MongoTheGeek
Mar 4, 2004, 04:03 PM
Do Mystery Science Theater 3000 movies count? The worst out of all the MST3K was definitely "Manos": The Hands of Fate. I tried watching it a second time just for the wisecracks, but I couldn't endure the horrid waste of film.

Yeah, cause they are real movies. Manos is actually the lowest ranked movie on the IMDB or at least was.

parrothead
Mar 4, 2004, 04:34 PM
Yeah, cause they are real movies. Manos is actually the lowest ranked movie on the IMDB or at least was.

Mongo, in replay to your sig. Sometimes we do have weather in Hawaii. Sometimes....

keysersoze
Mar 4, 2004, 04:43 PM
Joe Versus the Volcano.

The most Gawdawful movie ever produced. You can't defend it.

jelloshotsrule
Mar 4, 2004, 04:59 PM
Oh, and I forgot to post my picks for worst flick of all time. This is a tough one, there's so much rubbish coming out of that cesspool called Hollywood....

My top votes would be:

1. Any big-budget, special-effects driven blockbuster, especially those with strong patriotic undertones (you know, the movies that everyone flocks to because they're so "entertaining").
2. Any movie that is coined "The Feel-Good Movie of the Year"
3. Just about anything that is a sequel.
4. Anything with Jennifer Anniston or any other member of the Friends cast in it.

i'm gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you on some of these.

1. i thought black hawk down was fairly good. relatively unbiased...

2. i'll agree here. though i'm sure there are examples that are actually good movies... just don't know of any

3. "just about" covers your butt on that one

4. how about... office space? ouch


worst movie i've ever seen = mission to mars

there are "worse" movies, but they aren't trying as hard to be good... the best bad movie out there is probably "uncle sam".. hahahahaha. great movie


stelliform- i happened to like the postman a lot... i don't remember waterworld enough to comment


zoolander is one of my favorite movies of all time.

Judo
Mar 4, 2004, 05:19 PM
Executive decision.
Little Otik.
Starwars episode 1.
Fast and the Furious.


Has anyone said Titanic yet?
I haven't seen it and I never will.

jenniff
Mar 4, 2004, 05:35 PM
Has anyone said Titanic yet?
I haven't seen it and I never will.

That's such an ultimate chick flick though. Granted, I'm not sure I'd want to sit through it again at home, but I can't count how many times I saw it in theatres.

Alright, so I'll give you that it can be really cheesy. The whole "I'll never let go, Jack" thing is a little much, I suppose. But you must excuse the over-the-top dramatism in chick flicks.

Plus, you have to appreciate the historical aspects of it. It was fairly accurate.

Judo
Mar 4, 2004, 06:26 PM
That's such an ultimate chick flick though. Granted, I'm not sure I'd want to sit through it again at home, but I can't count how many times I saw it in theatres.

Alright, so I'll give you that it can be really cheesy. The whole "I'll never let go, Jack" thing is a little much, I suppose. But you must excuse the over-the-top dramatism in chick flicks.

Plus, you have to appreciate the historical aspects of it. It was fairly accurate.

I haven't seen it so I can't really make a valid opinion but the whole thing just seemed hollow, and deviod of any creativity. I guess it's just not my cup of tea.

I forgot to put Independence Day.

womencantsail
Mar 4, 2004, 07:13 PM
1. i thought black hawk down was fairly good. relatively unbiased...

Damn straight it is. Black Hawk Down is an amazing film. One of my favorites.

Krizoitz
Mar 4, 2004, 07:25 PM
I forgot to put Independence Day.

Independence Day is a fantastic film! Sure it isn't some deep and meaningful artsy movie, or some epic like LOTR. Its just entertainment. They made it to have FUN! It has a good storyline, fun characters, a decent amount of special effects (but not too much), fantastic music. I just don't understand how it can be a worst film. It's not like it claimed to be some sort of breakthrough amazing best film of all time. To me there are two kinds of films. Films you go to that make you think, and films you go to to have fun. Sometimes you can have both, but ID4 was definitely a film made for fun and for that I love it.

Nanda Devi
Mar 4, 2004, 10:24 PM
To me there are two kinds of films. Films you go to that make you think...

I believe this statement pretty much sums up the decline of Western Civilization.

Inspector Lee
Mar 4, 2004, 10:51 PM
i'm gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you on some of these.

1. i thought black hawk down was fairly good. relatively unbiased...

2. i'll agree here. though i'm sure there are examples that are actually good movies... just don't know of any

3. "just about" covers your butt on that one


Very profound. I'm still sifting through the evidence here counselor... Mmmmmm...

From a financial perspective, I believe Heaven's Gate is the worst movie of all time. It was directed by Michael Cimino fresh off the heels of Deer Hunter success (1978) and had a budget of around 8 figures which was pretty substantial for late 70s/early 80s Hollywood. Well, the flick took in a cool $200,000 and was systematically pulled. This film is probably THE SINGLE REASON why directors are no longer given carte blanche to do whatever they want by the industry and, as a result, American cinema has tragically suffered. We are saturated in sequels these days, whether they are remade movies or teevee shows, simply because the industry has a formula down in which "movie type X starring lead actor Y can generate Z dollars" with zero effort. That Lara Croft (sic?) flick with Angelina Jolie that came out in 2001 cost 120 million to make yet 90 million was in the bag from sponsors before it hit the theatres. Any type of awards/acclaim is pure gravy to these vampires. And this is not to say there don't exist bona fide auteurs these days. They are around albeit handcuffed to a sputtering $$$-hungry jalopy industry. You can identify these auteurs because they don't pimp themselves. They are what Deniro, Hackman, Hoffman, Voight et al used to be - artists/men.

Bitterly yours,

I. Lee

MrMacMan
Mar 5, 2004, 12:44 AM
Worst movie ever:

PRINCE OF SPACE (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/PrinceofSpace-1050332/preview.php)

Heck I even wrote my own review for it...My review (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showthread.php?t=273425)

The Best Evil Laugh ever (http://www.mindspring.com/~dhmac/snds/krankor.wav)

You can't excape that the fact is the main characters weapon of choice is none other than:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/attachment.php?attachmentid=22527&stc=1

A LIGHTER!

hahahahaah

Laughs at you again (http://www.mindspring.com/~dhmac/snds/krankor.wav)


--MrMacMan

edit: apparently direct linking is a no no... go to my review instead.

AngryLawnGnome
Mar 5, 2004, 12:59 AM
The New Guy

jelloshotsrule
Mar 5, 2004, 02:10 AM
Very profound. I'm still sifting through the evidence here counselor... Mmmmmm...


dear obvious film connoisseur,

evidence of what? my taste in movies?

or was it that i didn't use the word "auteurs" enough to suit your needs? my humblest apologies

your humble servant,

movie idiot

Krizoitz
Mar 5, 2004, 04:25 AM
I believe this statement pretty much sums up the decline of Western Civilization.

What that not everything in this world has to be taken seriously?

Squire
Mar 5, 2004, 05:17 AM
I haven't read through the entire thread but, in one like this, I guess it's not really necessary. In my opinion, the absolute worst piece of crap labeled a "movie" was The 51st State, starring Samuel L. Jackson and Robert Carlyle. If ever I want to punish myself, I'll sit through it again.

What compounded the horror was the fact that (a) that day, I originally planned on seeing Spiderman and (b) I like the two main actors. Serves me right, I guess, for violating one of my movie-going rules: stay away from flicks in which Meatloaf is acting.

Squire

Awimoway
Mar 5, 2004, 08:05 AM
Anything with Muppets® in it.

Simon Liquid
Mar 5, 2004, 10:20 AM
Hey, 'The Muppet Movie' was awesome.

Anyway, my least favorite movies are the ones that disappointed me. The Star Wars prequels have been mentioned, I hate them passionately. Night of the Living Dead was a big letdown.

Then there are movies I've been forced to see multiple times. A minor example: The Secret Garden. That was when I was younger, so it could very well be a fine children's film, I just don't care at this point. The worst, though, is Armageddon. I had to sit through that crime against science and cinema three times in high school and I would probably claw out my eyes rather than see it again.

ps- Aliens 3 is Casablanca if you compare it to Alien Resurection

hvfsl
Mar 5, 2004, 01:57 PM
Heres mine:

Starship Troopers (why could they not just nuke the bugs and finish the movie already)
Mars Attack (I wasted 2 hours of my life, I want it back)
Batman and Robin (Its like an bad episode of Friends, but not funny)

StarWars Episode One almost goes on there, but since it is StarWars, it can stay off.

rogozhin
Mar 5, 2004, 02:28 PM
I forgot which actor it was, but he died after barely filming part of Plan 9 and woods included that part and then just replaced him. It was so obvious, but in a movie such as Plan 9 it is one of the lesser flaws.

Bela Lugosi is the actor you are thinking of (and also the subject of the 10-minute goth-dance opus by Bauhaus)...

toaster_oven
Mar 5, 2004, 04:24 PM
hey- what about these?

cat in the hat...

Leonard part 6. ugh- i liked bill cosby until i saw this movie.

and the police academy movies. they just kept getting worse and worse.

Nanda Devi
Mar 5, 2004, 09:54 PM
See below...

Inspector Lee

Inspector Lee
Mar 5, 2004, 10:04 PM
dear obvious film connoisseur,

evidence of what? my taste in movies?

or was it that i didn't use the word "auteurs" enough to suit your needs? my humblest apologies

your humble servant,

movie idiot

Easy there JSR, I was merely responding to your criticism of a fellow MacRumors member and your evidence seemed a little thin to me.

I signed off after my diatribe "bitterly yours" because I am bitter about the current state of American cinema. I saw today that "Dawn of the Dead" is coming out again. 2 months ago it was "The Massacre." What next?

How far we have fallen since the rock n' roll late 60s-70s era. Movies like Chinatown and Taxi Driver would simply not make it to production these days. A movie about water? No way.

I highly recommend Peter Biskind's Easy Riders Raging Bulls. It covers Hollywood from "Bonnie and Clyde" (1967) all the way through to 1980. The rise, the fall, the dirt, the excess - everything. Biskind states that movies like "Jaws" and "Star Wars" have ruined Hollywood by turning everything into formulas. For example, "Alien" is simply "Jaws in Space." I'm not saying these aren't entertaining movies, they're damn good movies, but Hollywood is no longer willing to roll the dice. And with salaries in the 8 figure range, they cannot afford to gamble on a script about water or a loner cab driver who goes ape-*****. This coupled with some major 1970s big budget flops (Heaven's Gate, some William Friedkin flick about hauling nitroglycerine thru the S. American jungle, a Bogdanovich bomb that escapes me - I should probably refer to the text) ended the days when a nobody could walk into a studio with a vision and a great script and maybe make the next "Alien." They know how much $$$ a film will take in before Day 1 of production. And so-called "independent films" are quickly following "alternative" music down the road to mainstream slop. It seems the only genre that has escaped this cesspool is documentary. My worst movie of all time is the scene by scene remake of Psycho. Why? Why? Why?

Sincerely,

Pompous A$$

XnavxeMiyyep
Mar 5, 2004, 10:17 PM
The worst movie is The Sound of Music. We had to watch it in middle school, and I NEVER want to see it again.

coopdog
Mar 5, 2004, 10:47 PM
The worst movie to ever spawn a sequal (after being proclaimed worst movie ever), and a Saturday Morning cartoon series -- Attack of the Killer Tomatoes.

But that was years ago, I'm quite sure the quality of movies has tanked since then. ;)

Yes Spawn was one of the worst.

1. Timeline
2. Spawn
3. Keanu Reeves
4. Torque
5. Fast and the ferious
6. Adam Sandler
7. Any movie that uses ****ty souped up asian cars or anything, or **** jokes.

MrMacMan
Mar 6, 2004, 01:52 AM
Heres mine:

Starship Troopers (why could they not just nuke the bugs and finish the movie already)
Mars Attack (I wasted 2 hours of my life, I want it back)

i totally agree.

Also the movie (starship) almost seemed like i was playing the worst map in Starcraft ever... the movie was horribblee.



I have no add:
House of the Dead
Dead House.
House of the Living Dead.
House of the Dead Dead Living.

By Peter Jackson. :p

MacMumm
Mar 6, 2004, 02:25 AM
Two that I must add:

Event Horizon

Killer Klowns from Outer Space

FightTheFuture
Mar 6, 2004, 02:26 AM
Messenger: The Story of Joan of Arc

i thought it was going to be another great Luc Besson film. it wound up being excrutiatingly awful and left me anxious to leave :mad:

MacFan26
Mar 6, 2004, 02:43 AM
That's one of my favourite Bond films. Dianna Rigg was awesome.

Never Say Never Again ...now that one was BAD

Haha, yeah, Never Say Never Again wasn't that great. As much as I love Sean Connery, it definitely wasn't the best. I'd have to say the same for League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. What was he thinking? Oh, and Ghost, is a movie I despise, but that's just me.

phonemonkey
Mar 7, 2004, 06:13 AM
Mystery Date was a pretty bad one
So was teenage mutant ninja turtles: the secret of the ooze.
and I'll throw in Cool As Ice for good measure

judith
Mar 7, 2004, 06:40 AM
Waterworld
The Postman

See a trend? :D

MUST agree here - Waterworld is one of the worst movies I've seen.
I haven't watched a lot of these others mentioned here - I guess I've concluded that "legally blonde" won't be something I'll enjoy. (how presumptuous of me!)
I did like Kung-Pow, because it's supposed to be ridiculously stupid, and because I really love Jackie Chan movies - they're just silly - I like that sometimes. (light-hearted is good)

Tequila Grandma
Mar 7, 2004, 01:27 PM
Actually, Plan Nine From Outer Space is by far Ed Wood's best movie, so it can't really be the worst one too. Glen or Glenda, Ed Wood's movie about cross-dressing is my vote. It conveys a complete lack of any idea about how movies work--it's kind of mystifying.
This is true, but "Glen or Glenda", due in large part to its ridiculous use of stock footage, is also hilarious to watch, making it entertaining. If it's entertaining, it can't possibly be the worst movie ever.

I'll put in my vote for these two titles:

The Patriot
Life as a House

TEG
Mar 7, 2004, 02:16 PM
I'll put in my vote for these two titles:

The Patriot
Life as a House

Which "The Patriot"? The one with Mel Gibson, or the one With Steven Segal?

TEG

Stelliform
Mar 7, 2004, 02:35 PM
.....

Tequila Grandma
Mar 7, 2004, 03:42 PM
Which "The Patriot"? The one with Mel Gibson, or the one With Steven Segal?

TEG
The one with Mel Gibson, directed by Roland "I can't believe he hasn't made a single good film in his entire career" Emmerich. (Other credits to him include "Universal Soldier", "Stargate", "Independence Day", and the remake of "Godzilla").

...and Inspector Lee, I agree that Easy Riders, Raging Bulls is indeed a fascinating book. However, I don't think that the kind of rampant artistic expression in films in the 1970's is quite dead. Due to films like "Stranger Than Paradise" and "sex, lies, and videotape", the "indie" genre in the 90's gave almost the same thing, just on a slightly smaller scale. "Pi" and "I Shot Andy Warhol" are the 90s equivalent to 70s films like "Apocalypse Now" and "Dog Day Afternoon". The 1970's, however is still my favorite decade for film. Not only were there great films being made in Hollywood by the likes of Scorsese and Coppola, but Dario Argento and other European filmmakers were at the top of their game as well.

MacFan26
Mar 7, 2004, 04:07 PM
The one with Mel Gibson, directed by Roland "I can't believe he hasn't made a single good film in his entire career" Emmerich. (Other credits to him include "Universal Soldier", "Stargate", "Independence Day", and the remake of "Godzilla").


Aw, I liked "The Patriot." I thought the acting was great in that movie.

poopyhead
Mar 7, 2004, 05:19 PM
waters is great but
"pink flamingos" was god awful
as was
"jesus" some movie sent out by a local baptist group
"speed"
"american pie" both my girlfriend and I could only take about 15 minutes before popping out the dvd
and "julian the donkey boy" while i like the idea of dogme 95 julian sucked which brings up another horrible movie "chuck and buck"

rickvanr
Mar 7, 2004, 05:21 PM
This is true, but "Glen or Glenda", due in large part to its ridiculous use of stock footage, is also hilarious to watch, making it entertaining. If it's entertaining, it can't possibly be the worst movie ever.

I'll put in my vote for these two titles:

The Patriot
Life as a House

Life as a House is one of my favorite movies, but to each his own. Out of curiosity, what did you not like about it?

dxp4acu
Mar 11, 2004, 01:19 PM
How could anyone say Zoolander? It is one of the funniest movies around. They just didnt see it with the right crowd.

My picks for 2 of the worst I've seen:

Pleasantville
High Fidelity

I hated pleasantville. Some moron in hollywood thought the 50s tv families were dull and boring and for some reason the 50s characters just needed sex and stuff to enjoy life. What a croc!

Vector
Mar 11, 2004, 01:44 PM
My picks for 2 of the worst I've seen:

Pleasantville
High Fidelity


High fiedlity is a good movie, and it has a great soundtrack.

I thought pleasantville was an okay movie. It wasn't great by any means, but then again neither was Zoolander. Zoolander was good, stupid humor.

Squire
Mar 11, 2004, 05:59 PM
How could anyone say Zoolander? It is one of the funniest movies around. They just didnt see it with the right crowd.

My picks for 2 of the worst I've seen:

Pleasantville
High Fidelity

I hated pleasantville. Some moron in hollywood thought the 50s tv families were dull and boring and for some reason the 50s characters just needed sex and stuff to enjoy life. What a croc!

Oh, man...they were two of my favorites. John Cusack did an excellent job of adapting Nick Hornby's novel to the screen. Perfect. And Pleasantville sends quite a strong message, especially watched in the right environment. It's drenched in irony.

But, everyone's entitled to their own opinion, right?

Squire

MacFan26
Mar 11, 2004, 06:06 PM
Oh, man...they were two of my favorites. John Cusack did an excellent job of adapting Nick Hornby's novel to the screen. Perfect. And Pleasantville sends quite a strong message, especially watched in the right environment. It's drenched in irony.

But, everyone's entitled to their own opinion, right?

Squire

I agree with you Squire, Pleasantville is one of my favorite movies. I know many people think it's just about boring people in the 50's that discover sex, but as Bud says in the movie, "maybe it's not just the sex."

kiwi_the_iwik
Mar 11, 2004, 06:23 PM
Hmmm - "sucky" movies?!?

Let's see:

Well - I have to WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree with all and sundry who mentioned the Highlander Sequels - as a true afficionado, I, too, agree that the follow-ups did NOT exist. And as for the guy who wanted to sock the ticket tearer in the guts - LMAO! My mate who accompanied me to Highlander 2 actually DID...

Other worst movies (for ME...)

* Adventures Of Buckaroo Banzai
* Howard the Duck
* Leonard Part 6
* Another 48 Hours
* Blues Brothers 2000
* The Postman
* Mimic
* Pret A Porter
* Short Cuts
* Grand Canyon
* Spice Girls Movie
* The Last Action Hero
* Darkman

ALL crap - ESPECIALLY Darkman... I mean - WTF?!?

:confused:

Roger1
Mar 11, 2004, 07:56 PM
Well the worst mainstream movie I ever saw was Fargo... I saw it in a dollar theater during a lightning storm and between the bad accents and constant power interruptions I almost asked for my dollar back!

I LOVED Fargo :D I was constantly laughing while watching the movie!

The wood chipper scene was great. BTW, did they ever say why that guy needed the money? I can't remember his name, but the guy who had his wife kidnapped?

poopyhead
Mar 11, 2004, 08:46 PM
I LOVED Fargo :D I was constantly laughing while watching the movie!

The wood chipper scene was great. BTW, did they ever say why that guy needed the money? I can't remember his name, but the guy who had his wife kidnapped?

I beleive he had just bought a new house and car, was about to be fired or was fired from his father in laws car dealership, had borrowed money from his father in law who was now collecting, and had made several bad investments about which he had lied as far as profits (which is why his father in law was calling the loan due)
He kidnapped her to get money from his rich father in law in order to pay off his loans and support his lifestyle

I could be wrong, it's been 5-6 years since i saw it
but this is what i remember

jtkellertx
Mar 12, 2004, 08:42 AM
Well some stinkers dont actually make it to the movies but just go straight to video.

Cant comment on a few here like gigli,wedding planner because i havent been dumb enough to go watch them.

But Ishtar,Pluto Nash and Kung pow have to be up their.

Thinking back,brought back memories of some of Peter Jacksons early movies but they were good if you like shlocky horror. Guy running around with a lawn mower killing zombies comes to mind.:)
I respect your opinions, but what is wrong with "Kung Pow!".

jtkellertx
Mar 12, 2004, 08:53 AM
.

As for AI, great concept, but it felt like two seperate movies crammed together with duct tape and bailing wire, and then left to slowly die like used batteries petering out...
I'm pretty sure that this was directed by 2 different people, Stanley Kubrick and Steven Speigburg. The beginning was by Kubrick and I think he died, Speigburg took over. Yes, it was a lousy movie, it felt more like 3 SHORT stories made into a movie.

Squire
Mar 12, 2004, 08:55 AM
I LOVED Fargo :D I was constantly laughing while watching the movie!

The wood chipper scene was great. BTW, did they ever say why that guy needed the money? I can't remember his name, but the guy who had his wife kidnapped?

I loved Fargo, too. William H. Macy plays the pathetic, middle-aged dork so well. (He was good in Boogie Nights as well.) Didn't the woman who played the police chief get an Oscar for that performance? Of course, Oscars don't always mean that a film is universally adored. I watched Chicago the other day and was unimpressed.

Squire

jtkellertx
Mar 12, 2004, 09:13 AM
[QUOTE=Tequila Grandma]The one with Mel Gibson, directed by Roland "I can't believe he hasn't made a single good film in his entire career" Emmerich. (Other credits to him include "Universal Soldier", "Stargate", "Independence Day", and the remake of "Godzilla").

QUOTE]
Hey! Stargate rules! But sadly I have to agree with you on ONE thing, even though I'm a fan of Stargate SG-1 the movie is well crappy compaired to the lower budget TV show. Nothing really happens in the movie, and when the movie was made they assumed there WASN'T going to be a TV show. The others I say are good, but I don't know about Universal Soldier. I'll assume its crappy, Van Damme is not really what you call a high quality actor. The CD SOUNDTRACK for "Universal Soldier: The Return" was great

Squire
Mar 12, 2004, 10:09 AM
I'm pretty sure that this was directed by 2 different people, Stanley Kubrick and Steven Speigburg. The beginning was by Kubrick and I think he died, Speigburg took over. Yes, it was a lousy movie, it felt more like 3 SHORT stories made into a movie.

I think Kubrick wrote it and Spielberg directed it. (I'll check.) It DID seem like three movies: a sci-fi/drama, a sci-fi/action movie, and a sci-fi/fantasy-type movie. The first third of that film was excellent but it just went downhill after the robot kid got dumped by his mom.

Squire

<edit> They call it AI: The Film Stanley Kubrick Never Made. He doesn't appear in the credits but the original concept of the movie was his, based on a short story:

Kubrick became interested in AI nearly 30 years ago when he read Brian Aldiss's short story, 'Super Toys Last All Summer Long'. He bought it from the writer in 1982. Aldiss's story tells of a childless woman who adopts an android that resembles a five-year-old boy. Although the robot is programmed not to know he is not a boy, the woman finds she cannot love him.

(From http://www.sci.fi/~phinnweb/links/cinema/directors/kubrick/AI.html)

MongoTheGeek
Mar 12, 2004, 11:21 AM
I respect your opinions, but what is wrong with "Kung Pow!".

I keep trying to find something right with it so I can say everything but...

I can't.

1macker1
Mar 12, 2004, 11:42 AM
Battlefield Earth - John Travovlta and Forrest Whitaker . Why did they agree to make this movie.

Beloved - Oprah Winfrey. The only thing I can say about this movie is WTF.

jtkellertx
Mar 13, 2004, 09:28 AM
I keep trying to find something right with it so I can say everything but...

I can't.

Nothing is suppose to be right, it's a parody of old dubbed Hong Kong flicks. Maybe you haven't seen any Hong Kong flicks.......
"I fell and hurt my tummy."
-Master Pain (Betty), we will miss you.....

jtkellertx
Mar 13, 2004, 09:40 AM
I think Kubrick wrote it and Spielberg directed it. (I'll check.) It DID seem like three movies: a sci-fi/drama, a sci-fi/action movie, and a sci-fi/fantasy-type movie. The first third of that film was excellent but it just went downhill after the robot kid got dumped by his mom.

Squire

<edit> They call it AI: The Film Stanley Kubrick Never Made. He doesn't appear in the credits but the original concept of the movie was his, based on a short story:

Kubrick became interested in AI nearly 30 years ago when he read Brian Aldiss's short story, 'Super Toys Last All Summer Long'. He bought it from the writer in 1982. Aldiss's story tells of a childless woman who adopts an android that resembles a five-year-old boy. Although the robot is programmed not to know he is not a boy, the woman finds she cannot love him.

(From http://www.sci.fi/~phinnweb/links/cinema/directors/kubrick/AI.html)

I think I may have figured out what was wrong with the movie. Two directors working on one movie (1 writing and 1 directing) turns into a bad movie. Speilburg is the type of a director that will take a story and make an adventure out of it.(Ex. Indiana Jones and Back to the Future) Kubrick, when writing the story, is TELLING A STORY about a robot. The difference is one is telling a story and one taking you on an adventure, you will notice what I mean when your watching the movie or thinking about it afterwards. When two directing styles just clash, the telling a story clash.... I hope most of you agree with me

brandon_deal
Mar 13, 2004, 03:51 PM
GEORGE OF THE JUNGLE 2 is worse than any movie ever invented.....

deathsport is close behind.....

Capt Underpants
Mar 13, 2004, 03:56 PM
GEORGE OF THE JUNGLE 2 is worse than any movie ever invented.....

deathsport is close behind.....

Both of those movies do suck..... Buy if I had to pick one, I'd say deathsport.

Free From PC
Mar 13, 2004, 04:50 PM
I'd have to say that the worst movie I have seen some of, I walked out of the theater is:

8 Crazy Nights.

(This coming from an Adam Sandler Fan)

wowser
Mar 13, 2004, 05:46 PM
I'd have to say that the worst movie I have seen some of, I walked out of the theater is:

8 Crazy Nights.

(This coming from an Adam Sandler Fan)

my god! that film should have been shot at dawn.

Although i enjoyed it in a (this is bad, but entertaining) i'd say Dreamcathers

Also, XXX, The Vin Diesel film. And this is before i go into older films...

stcanard
Mar 13, 2004, 07:29 PM
I can't believe that nobody has yet mentioned one of the all-time classic stinkers:

Showgirls

My god, it managed to make nearly constant full frontal nudity boring even!

Roger1
Mar 13, 2004, 08:26 PM
I enjoyed A.I., but I felt like it could have ended in two or three different places.

Thomas Veil
Mar 13, 2004, 09:32 PM
I'm probably gonna get panned for mentioning this, but..."Zoolander". Reminded me of one of those SNL skits that just lays there and dies.

edesignuk
Mar 15, 2004, 05:00 AM
"Torque" :rolleyes:

/thread

jenniff
Mar 16, 2004, 05:22 PM
Kubrick became interested in AI nearly 30 years ago when he read Brian Aldiss's short story, 'Super Toys Last All Summer Long'. He bought it from the writer in 1982. Aldiss's story tells of a childless woman who adopts an android that resembles a five-year-old boy. Although the robot is programmed not to know he is not a boy, the woman finds she cannot love him.

(From http://www.sci.fi/~phinnweb/links/cinema/directors/kubrick/AI.html)

It's a great short story. AI hardly resembles it, excepting the names of the child droid, the mother, and the bear. Rather amusing, how an ultra-long movie is procured from an extremely short story. Check it: http://downlode.org/etext/supertoys.html