No new iMac, no Mac Mini. [Archive]

Esulatell

Jan 6, 2009, 01:26 PM

Hellhammer

Jan 6, 2009, 01:30 PM

I'm very, very dissapointed. There waas nothing cool at MW this year -.-
They only talked about iLife and iWork.

Lets see if they come out with em soon

Manzana

Jan 6, 2009, 01:35 PM

I'm hoping for a "silent" update...

SpaceMagic

Jan 6, 2009, 01:36 PM

VERY disappointed! I have credit card here for Mac Mini.

Haven't they heard of the financial crisis. We dont need more expensive iTunes and a ridiculously expensive MBP 17" !! We need CHEAP.

tMac85

Jan 6, 2009, 01:37 PM

I'm hoping for a "silent" update...

me too.

Esulatell

Jan 6, 2009, 01:37 PM

I'm hoping for a "silent" update...

I don't think Apple DO silent upadates :p

tMac85

Jan 6, 2009, 01:38 PM

I don't think Apple DO silent upadates :p

uh YES they do.

shokunin

Jan 6, 2009, 01:38 PM

OH man, what a let down. No wonder Steve handed the keynote to Phil... not even a glimpse of Snow Leopard.

bigjnyc

Jan 6, 2009, 01:38 PM

I'm hoping for a "silent" update...

LMAO!!! mac Mini folks will never give up hope. its become pretty obvious that the mini is no more. move on people:D

timestoby

Jan 6, 2009, 01:39 PM

you would have thouht the imac would have gotten an update or can you already update the gpu by sending it in?

Esulatell

Jan 6, 2009, 01:40 PM

LMAO!!! mac Mini folks will never give up hope. its become pretty obvious that the mini is no more. move on people:D

Apple won't be getting rid of the Mini anytime soon, it brings in quite a bit of money, not as much as the rest of the line but hey, money. Plus its a great option for Apple users who don't have enough money to spend on an iMac or Mac Pro.

rust.puppet

Jan 6, 2009, 01:41 PM

this may be the most disapointed ive ever been.

ilife ships out at the end of january so early february imacs and minis?

Esulatell

Jan 6, 2009, 01:42 PM

this may be the most disapointed ive ever been.

ilife ships out at the end of january so early february imacs and minis?

Well let's keep everything crossed! :D

Cave Man

Jan 6, 2009, 01:43 PM

LMAO!!! mac Mini folks will never give up hope. its become pretty obvious that the mini is no more. move on people:D

Yeah, I'm sure Apple puts new model identifiers in their OS for computers that aren't going to be made. :rolleyes:

Hellhammer

Jan 6, 2009, 01:44 PM

Apple won't be getting rid of the Mini anytime soon, it brings in quite a bit of money, not as much as the rest of the line but hey, money. Plus its a great option for Apple users who don't have enough money to spend on an iMac or Mac Pro.

Mini is the entry level Mac so people buys that and loves it and buys new Mac and so on. Usually you don't buy Mac Pro as your first Mac

kermit4161

Jan 6, 2009, 01:47 PM

Okay... so we didn't get a new Mac Mini/iMac at MW... when is the next possible venue for a release... or is Apple even doing releases at scheduled events now? Could a Special Event from Apple be forthcoming soon? Or will they wait for WWDC??

pprior

Jan 6, 2009, 01:49 PM

apple store back up - no stealth mini upgrade. too bad.

No new displays - a bigger disappointment to me.

at least hte new MBP has an antiglare option!

intempo808

Jan 6, 2009, 01:49 PM

Wow, I'm actually disappointed in something I haven't actually brought yet... Weird... :(

wongulous

Jan 6, 2009, 01:50 PM

This is so depressing. I returned a mac mini I got as a christmas present because I was so sure they'd be updated because they are SO old and outdated. They need to at least be TOUCHED in the next month, if not a full overhaul with dedicated GPU. I don't care if it's $700, I have my own monitors I want to use and I need a desktop/home theater Mac soon dammit.

trnce.lam

Jan 6, 2009, 01:51 PM

oh dear...i've been waiting for..(i'm embarrassed to admit) since august lol oh deary me....but i'm a lil annoyed and prob not accepted the fact that there's no imac lol ...there might be still hope...but i think it's funny that i've been waiting so long and nothing :D haha oh god i'm bumbling...

i might wait so tho..since i don't really need it..dunno about other people..?

but why...slightly off subject... did macrumors live feed go a bit wierd? lol

arjen

Jan 6, 2009, 01:51 PM

How hard can it be to replace very VERY old hardware in a Mac Mini??!!

oscillatewildly

Jan 6, 2009, 01:52 PM

+ 1 for the matte option (17 only) for those who want it,

- umpteen for no Mini, and minus another load for not dropping the price of the current Mini.

dubhe

Jan 6, 2009, 01:52 PM

Apple did say they didn't want their release program ruled by events such as MacWorld, so let's hope they crack on with the next release and we see a new Mini in the next few weeks.

Please?

Scott6666

Jan 6, 2009, 01:53 PM

Maybe they'll announce the new imac/mini when they are ready to ship or close to it.

It's certainly not a lot of fun to get an announcement and then not be able to buy. The new iStuff is a good example. Gotta wait until the end of January.

Maybe (definitely) this is why Apple wants out of the tyranny of the MacWorld schedule. Then they can announce and ship rather than announce and wait. I think that's better.

gkarris

Jan 6, 2009, 01:54 PM

Apple will use these updates for THEIR OWN event - as they are not doing MacWorld anymore...

I've been blasted for saying this - but it does make sense. If Apple announces them at someone else's event, then there's nothing for their own...

synagence

Jan 6, 2009, 01:54 PM

Genuinely shocked at the lack of consumer grade updates
iWork and iLife = meh

rust.puppet

Jan 6, 2009, 01:57 PM

zioxide

Jan 6, 2009, 01:59 PM

The new mini is still coming... be patient.

MatLane

Jan 6, 2009, 01:59 PM

Nice to see the 17' mbp upgrade!

rust.puppet

Jan 6, 2009, 02:00 PM

Nice to see the 17' mbp upgrade!
they already upgraded those a few months ago, we didnt NEED that update, we needed new minis and imacs :(

dubhe

Jan 6, 2009, 02:00 PM

It's certainly not a lot of fun to get an announcement and then not be able to buy.

I disagree, it is part of the fun to be able to see it, but not touch it! Makes you appreciate it more when you do get it.

ziwi

Jan 6, 2009, 02:02 PM

Guess it is over...what did I miss?

Apparently nothing...oh, well they have to update some items in some period of time anyway - right? right? RIGHT?

EasyRider

Jan 6, 2009, 02:02 PM

I was looking forward to seeing the new mac mini (buying it) and possibly a new imac... man am I disappointed! :(

It's like thinking you know what you are going to get for Christmas, waiting weeks... then opening up the present and your jaw drops when you see a sweater!

lukey37

Jan 6, 2009, 02:03 PM

Another annoying thing, If I were to go a buy an iMac tomorrow I would have to still pay a small amount to get iLife 09 update.

manchild

Jan 6, 2009, 02:06 PM

LMAO!!! mac Mini folks will never give up hope. its become pretty obvious that the mini is no more. move on people:D

1) The mac mini makes for a good burial ground for macbook parts and processors.

2) Many people buy them as HTPCs

3) They make pretty neat web servers... i.e. macminicolo.com. Good for non-critical or highly redundant setups on the cheap.

4) If I remember right - the last update was silent.

LeeTom

Jan 6, 2009, 02:07 PM

I sold my Mac Mini yesterday on Craigslist. I was LAUGHING LAUGHING LAUGHING at my awesome skills, and at the other guy for buying one the day before an update.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! It's like a bad dream, or those milk commercials where there's cake everywhere and the fridge is full of empty milk cartons.

rust.puppet

Jan 6, 2009, 02:11 PM

haha they seem to of found the way to rape us all in one day. this is worse than nintendo wii at E3 08. i WISH shawn white would of been there lol.

MrT-Man

Jan 6, 2009, 02:14 PM

I also had my credit card ready for a Mini. :(

Given how strong the rumors seemed to be, I would think that there probably is one in the pipeline. Maybe it just wasn't quite yet ready for launch... I'll give it another couple of months before I give up.

bigjnyc

Jan 6, 2009, 02:14 PM

Enigmafan420

Jan 6, 2009, 02:17 PM

I had my old mini sold to my neighbor-but alas, I guess I won't complete the sale, at least not now.

While the evidence for a new mini seems compelling, the lack of even a mention of it may indeed spell the end.

Perhaps the software references to it were for internal use? Prototype unit never shipped to production?

Theophany

Jan 6, 2009, 02:23 PM

SJ is the biggest egomaniac in the Valley. Is it so hard to believe that the Messiah didn't want Schiller stealing his thunder by announcing updated iMacs and minis?

SJ is brilliant at what he does. Yeah, he's an oddball, he's eccentric and more bullish than Fester (Ballmer) in some ways, but he is a primo CEO. He's iCEO. He works on praise, his brilliance spurns from the millions of puckered lips pressed tight against his butt cheeks. If Schiller got the cheers for announcing great products because he was down with some menial hormone imbalance ("Dude, I survived pancreatic cancer, maybe you've heard of it?"), he'd be pissed, n'est pas?

I can hold off my credit card for a little while longer. ;)

capo64

Jan 6, 2009, 02:24 PM

If you buy a qualifying Mac between January 6, 2009, and March 28, 2009, and it does not include iLife '09, you're eligible to receive iLife '09 for just $9.95 plus tax.
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/campaigns/popup/ilife?mco=Njk1OTY

What's happening on March 28th?

gkarris

Jan 6, 2009, 02:30 PM

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/campaigns/popup/ilife?mco=Njk1OTY

What's happening on March 28th?

GOOD CATCH!

New Minis and iMacs WITH iLife '09!!!

MSchmunk

Jan 6, 2009, 02:34 PM

i am very disappointed in this keynote. i wanted that new mac mini for my room. i guess ill be fine with what i have. it just nice update my computers once in awhile.

EasyRider

Jan 6, 2009, 02:35 PM

Also I was soooo wishing for a 28" iMac rumor to be true...

gr81mgbgt

Jan 6, 2009, 02:37 PM

so new imacs after march 28th?

Soxy

Jan 6, 2009, 02:37 PM

so new imacs after march 28th?

Oh god.

EasyRider

Jan 6, 2009, 02:39 PM

so new imacs after march 28th?

28" iMac on the 28th... hmmm :rolleyes:

guklein

Jan 6, 2009, 02:40 PM

GOOD CATCH!

New Minis and iMacs WITH iLife '09!!!

LOL!!!

And waiting...waiting...waiting...frustation...frustation...frustration...

Guys, you have to learn to be happy today...stop waiting and enjoy today! The new will be old soon...always waiting a new model, more than you need!

zioxide

Jan 6, 2009, 02:40 PM

Given how strong the rumors seemed to be, I would think that there probably is one in the pipeline. Maybe it just wasn't quite yet ready for launch...

this is exactly true.

Soxy

Jan 6, 2009, 02:40 PM

28" iMac on the 28th... hmmm :rolleyes:

Definitely, it comes with a free Mac Mini and a 10ghz Pentium 27

bigjnyc

Jan 6, 2009, 02:41 PM

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/campaigns/popup/ilife?mco=Njk1OTY

What's happening on March 28th?

it will be the last day to take advantage of this offer, in case you happened to buy a computer that had the old software on it, after the new software was announced.

alphaod

Jan 6, 2009, 02:43 PM

I'm a bit disappointed with no new mini.

Oh well, looks like more money in the bank then!

gr81mgbgt

Jan 6, 2009, 02:44 PM

alphaod. how do you like the macbook and 24" display?

Old Muley

Jan 6, 2009, 02:51 PM

My wife said I could buy a new mac back in December, and I've been waiting (impatiently) until today for some good news... Oh well, I guess I'll ask my soon-to-be-5-year-old G5 to hang in there a little longer.

YMark

Jan 6, 2009, 02:58 PM

this is exactly true.

And you know this how?

If MW proved anything, it's that people shouldn't think of rumors as facts. Especially unfounded rumors. I've yet to read one article that gave me a feeling that a new iMac would have been introduced at MW. I was not one bit surprised.

Soxy

Jan 6, 2009, 03:00 PM

And you know this how?

If MW proved anything, it's that people shouldn't think of rumors as facts. Especially unfounded rumors. I've yet to read one article that gave me a feeling that a new iMac would have been introduced at MW. I was not one bit surprised.

Actually, even as someone who's sceptical a lot, the 9xxx documents found within an OS X update combined with the update cycle was pretty solid "proof" to the rumour, as Apple rumours go.

mat25

Jan 6, 2009, 03:11 PM

woooow im soo pissed!! such a let down!:mad:

PuckDaddy

Jan 6, 2009, 03:25 PM

I see nothing wrong with tossing out a bone to the consumers
the least they could do is give a 'teaser' as to what's going on with the machines
they don't have to wait until it's ready to ship to discuss it

spatlese44

Jan 6, 2009, 03:45 PM

So where is this going? The mini is getting updated. We know this from leaked version update in a kext file. Think about what other updates they are going to do this year.

One by one, antiglare gets sprinkled down as an option for all the MB line.
All MB's get new battery?
Snow Leopard is coming.
New iphone and as always ipods.
New mac mini eventually.

So what did they update? Things that wouldn't matter to release at a fixed date and wouldn't matter that much if leaked. Other releases they want to do when it's ready, no sooner or later. What if they tried to release Snow Leopard and it wasn't ready? Do they put it out knowing there's going to have to be a ton of fixes, or risk looking silly by announcing it and not coming out with it for a month? Not good either way.

17" MBP was the star of the show and was probably ready a while ago. How many of these do they sell anyway?

BTW, doesn't a Leopard kext mini reference imply new mini before Snow Leopard? Why design Leopard to work on a new mini if the mini is going to come with the new OS? Hmmm.

CalmEnvy

Jan 6, 2009, 03:46 PM

Meh, nothing great came out of the event. If they updated the Mini or iMac there would be something to talk about but this was a gigantic... MEH!

marcpw

Jan 6, 2009, 08:38 PM

mdhwoods

Jan 6, 2009, 09:00 PM

Mini is the entry level Mac so people buys that and loves it and buys new Mac and so on. Usually you don't buy Mac Pro as your first Mac

September of 2007 bought top of the line mini, flash forward to Jan 2009 and i own a 24" 2.8 imac and an aluminum 2.4 macbook.

They would be foolish to drop it as it brought me into the mac fold.

150hp

Jan 6, 2009, 09:00 PM

I wanted a Mini update for others, not me.

Anyways, I was let down as well.

gazfocus

Jan 6, 2009, 09:12 PM

How the hell can they start by saying 'Today we're gonna talk about the Mac' then just announce a new iLife, new iWork and update one laptop???

Mal67

Jan 6, 2009, 09:26 PM

Perhaps when they redesigned the mini they minimized it so much that they couldn't find it in time for Macworld.:D

queshy

Jan 6, 2009, 09:51 PM

How the hell can they start by saying 'Today we're gonna talk about the Mac' then just announce a new iLife, new iWork and update one laptop???

his statement was grammatically correct, though. today was on the mac!

Alfie

Jan 6, 2009, 11:18 PM

Maybe it's just me, but it looks like Apple is set up nicely for a Mac "special event" sometime in the next couple months. They've said that they're moving away from Macworld because they like to control the timing of their events for when they're stuff is ready. What better way to make that point then by holding an event sometime in late January or February? Look at all the things in the product line that need to be updated:

Mac Mini, iMac, Mac Pro, Cinema Displays, Apple TV, Snow Leopard.

An event with all these items would be awesome.

A couple other side benefits:
1. An event further from Christmas is less likely to tick off people who bought the above items for Christmas.
2. iLife 09 isn't ready until the end of the month. How many people would be ticked off if they ordered new computers today with iLife 08 only to find out that there's a new one out in two weeks?

Because of all this, I think a late January or February event makes a lot of sense.

iStress

Jan 7, 2009, 12:00 AM

I personally feel that Apple wanted to get out of Macworld because it doesn't want to be the biggest company there, which will outshine other smaller companies.

What Apple did really indicate that they are there as a "guest speaker" at Macworld, announcing minor new products and not revolutionary ones - just like other companies participating in this year's Macworld Expo.

If Apple is going to announce something big, they are gonna do it by themselves at their own events and control it their own way, plus getting the credit.

kastenbrust

Jan 7, 2009, 12:05 AM

Why would they release a set of new Mac Pro's and Mac Mini's now when Snow Leopard is just around the corner (May/June) and it would be much easier for everyone if they came with Snow Leopard preinstalled rather than having to shell out another $100 for it. I would be fairly annoyed if that happened. Just my $0.02

iDave

Jan 7, 2009, 12:20 AM

Two of the things announced today aren't going to be ready until the end of the month. That's more proof that being forced to make announcements at Macworld isn't good, as far as Apple is concerned.

A mini upgrade however, is so overdue, it's hard to figure why it couldn't be ready six months ago. Apple is milking the old model for all it's worth, that's for sure.

Cave Man

Jan 7, 2009, 12:27 AM

A mini upgrade however, is so overdue, it's hard to figure why it couldn't be ready six months ago.

Perhaps it's because iMacs and Minis are always bundled with iLife. Who knows - but let there be no doubt that new iMacs and Minis are coming.

Michael CM1

Jan 7, 2009, 12:47 AM

1) The mac mini makes for a good burial ground for macbook parts and processors.

2) Many people buy them as HTPCs

3) They make pretty neat web servers... i.e. macminicolo.com. Good for non-critical or highly redundant setups on the cheap.

4) If I remember right - the last update was silent.

The Mini has a history of silent updates. I bought one of the last models before the Intel switch, and it had a 1.5Ghz CPU (instead of 1.42) and a DL-DVD burner instead of only single layer. I do agree with everybody that it should've had some small incremental update last year, or at least a price cut, but maybe Apple was spending all its money on the iPhone 3G and MacBook redesign.

As another poster said, just because it wasn't announced Tuesday doesn't mean it won't be next week. If Apple thinks it may be a couple of weeks from an announcement, why meet MW's artificial timetable? That whole push notification thing for the iPhone is about 3 months overdue, so I think they're working on a buncha stuff.

Michael CM1

Jan 7, 2009, 12:49 AM

How the hell can they start by saying 'Today we're gonna talk about the Mac' then just announce a new iLife, new iWork and update one laptop???

iLife, runs on Macs
iWork, runs on Macs
MacBook Pro, is a Mac
iTunes, runs on Macs

Aside from the bit about buying songs over the air on iPhones, the ENTIRE thing was about Mac-related products.

ventro

Jan 7, 2009, 12:53 AM

Im sure there will be a Mac hardware event later this spring.

GimmeSlack12

Jan 7, 2009, 01:03 AM

You know a few things have to be looked at in retrospect. First and foremost, we are not promised anything at these events. There was never any emails sent out to consumers saying "Get Prepared for an updated Line of iMacs and Minis". So you really gotta take it with a grain of salt and say "Maybe next time".

But don't go getting butt hurt because their agenda wasn't what you were expecting. The waiting game is just not worth it, and if anything then if you were waiting to buy an iMac or Mini then now you know. Time to buy!

And finally, everything, on one day or another WILL become obsolete. So if you are waiting to buy the latest and greatest then you are chasing your tail.

iDave

Jan 7, 2009, 01:31 AM

he waiting game is just not worth it, and if anything then if you were waiting to buy an iMac or Mini then now you know. Time to buy!

And finally, everything, on one day or another WILL become obsolete. So if you are waiting to buy the latest and greatest then you are chasing your tail.
I've heard this said elsewhere by others. Problem is, the Mac mini was obsolete two years ago. The late 2006 MacBook has better specs than the current Mac mini (which basically is a portable Mac). At least the old MacBook has N wireless. It's very hard for anyone to pay good money for a computer that old, unless it's used.

aaarrrnnn

Jan 7, 2009, 01:43 AM

My guess is that Apple wants the new iMacs and Minis to come out with Snow Leopard.

iDave

Jan 7, 2009, 02:18 AM

My guess is that Apple wants the new iMacs and Minis to come out with Snow Leopard.
History would indicate otherwise. New Macs have been released shortly before a new version of the OS on several occasions.

Jiff Lemon

Jan 7, 2009, 03:20 AM

I'm disappointed. been waiting and waiting for a new mini.

Now my Mini money has gone to HP; Sorry Apple, just couldn't wait any longer :(

Murdo

Jan 7, 2009, 03:21 AM

Take a look at http://www.apple.com/nz/ right now. One of the scrolling headlines is "Meet the new iMac".

Could there be a wee surprise heading our way sooner rather than later?

iDave

Jan 7, 2009, 03:27 AM

Take a look at http://www.apple.com/nz/ right now. One of the scrolling headlines is "Meet the new iMac".

Could there be a wee surprise heading our way sooner rather than later?
It also says "see what you can learn at WWDC08."

Shao

Jan 7, 2009, 03:28 AM

Take a look at http://www.apple.com/nz/ right now. One of the scrolling headlines is "Meet the new iMac".

Could there be a wee surprise heading our way sooner rather than later?

i can see that too..
Interesting...

Huge disappointment for me this morning, i just wanted an updated imac with updated GPU...

Xorro

Jan 7, 2009, 04:51 AM

I've been waiting to buy my first mac (iMac), now not sure whether to hang on a bit longer or just go and get one now.

yoppie

Jan 7, 2009, 05:36 AM

I was really hoping for a Mac mini as a second mac. I guess the waiting game continues.

Soxy

Jan 7, 2009, 06:04 AM

Now I have to keep using my duel 450 powermac for a while I use a PC in the house when I need speed. I've been holding out for a quad core iMac so I'll just have to wait longer. Hopefully it comes before I have to donate my Mac to a museum. I wonder what the glitch was. Hard to believe all the rumor sites could be so detailed yet so wrong.

The rumour sites weren't wrong per se, they weren't pulling facts out of their ass and they were pretty well founded rumours as rumours go (provided you always keep sight of the fact rumours can always be incorrect).

Apple actually threw a pretty big doosie yesterday, everything indicated that all the rumour sites (and individuals btw) predicted was almost considered a sure bet looking at the factors and stats.

Time will tell why, but not to add salt to the wound but the quad core iMac thing was a fairly late-in-the-day baseless rumour, if we see an iMac before Nehalem it will be very unlikely to be a quadcore. I've never seen a speedbump that changed the entire architecture of a system.

elcid

Jan 7, 2009, 07:07 AM

If we get iMac updates and no Mac Mini then I think we all need to abandon the Mac Mini vessel.

askthedust

Jan 7, 2009, 10:38 AM

still waiting for the mini to get updated. if it was on a normal release cycle i wouldn't care so much but since it's been over a year since the last release i will keep holding out. :(

manchild

Jan 7, 2009, 11:09 AM

If we get iMac updates and no Mac Mini then I think we all need to abandon the Mac Mini vessel.

I doubt the mac mini release will coincide with the iMac. The iMac is a flagship product and the mini is an unrelated product architectually. It's also more of a subculture product... more or less. The mini will get an update when Apple has nearly run out of parts for the current model. While it's frustrating to see a beloved product be neglected for over a year it allows Apple to buy larger shipments of components at lower costs and helps Apple bring inventory down both of which help the margins, which helps the company value, which pleases share holders who invest in the company so they can keep building the products we all enjoy.

Cave Man

Jan 7, 2009, 11:26 AM

I doubt the mac mini release will coincide with the iMac. The iMac is a flagship product and the mini is an unrelated product architectually. It's also more of a subculture product... more or less.

Is that why it's been the second best selling Mac desktop at Amazon.com over the last 5 months?

gkarris

Jan 7, 2009, 11:46 AM

My guess is that Apple wants the new iMacs and Minis to come out with Snow Leopard.

Yes, not to mention that Snow Leopard will supposedly be optimized for Intel with minimal memory (512 Megs).

So, it wouldn't suprise me if Apple decided to wait so that the nVidia chips go down in price, and they can release a Mini with only a 120 Gig hard drive and 1 Gig RAM with Snow Leopard so they can achieve the $499 price point.

Not to mention include iLife '09.

skaeight

Jan 7, 2009, 12:25 PM

This is my first post, but I felt like needed to contribute to this conversation.

Put me in the camp of eagerly awaiting the imac release yesterday and one who came away deeply disappointed.

I was looking for a computer that would allow me to do some basic video editing, photo editing, and run Adobe CS4. I really like the mac platform and actually already have a Macbook, but have never had a mac desktop.

I am looking to eventually get an AVCHD camera so I wanted a quad core processor so that the ingest times into FCE would be manageable, but a MacPro is just overkill for me. So I was really excited about the prospect of a quad core imac.

However, yesterday made me realize I don't want to get locked into apple. It is ludicrous to have put off a major purchase like this because apple isn't ready to release their product. In the PC world you can go and get the latest technology from any number of vendors as soon as it released.

So....what I ended up doing last night was bought all the parts required for me to put together a completely decked out quad core workstation (1TB HDD, 4GB RAM, ATI 4670, blu-ray - yes the bag of hurt, and plenty of room to grow). All of this for about half the cost of what a locked down imac would cost me.

I fully realize apple will most likely have an event either later this month or sometime during the spring announcing a quad-core imac, and yes their software is beautiful, imovie 09 alone made me think twice about the choice I made last night. But, I am more than willing to live with Windows XP for now and 7 when it comes out along with Sony Vegas (with its native no ingest time required AVCHD support) and Adobe software because I won't be at the mercy of Apple.

Yesterday was really just an arrogant slap in the face to the user community. The only hardware that is released is a $2800 laptop with a non removable battery (but wait, here's a video why its GOOD). Yes the software looked cool, but geeze did they really give a 45 minute demo of iphoto?

Maybe someday Apple will get their act together and stop trying to create a hype machine around their products and release a reasonably priced product that either has some regular update cycle, or is at least more frequently upated. Until then I'm sticking with PCs.

gkarris

Jan 7, 2009, 12:28 PM

skaeight

Jan 7, 2009, 12:32 PM

^^^

Welcome.

Please post in the video section your using Sony Vegas/Windows workstation. I've only tried an old version of Adobe Premier for Windows and never got it working right. Plus people ask me with a PC what is good video editing software. I have to tell them I don't know since I'm more a Mac user for that sort of thing.

I've done a lot of research on this, because I really wanted to make the right choice. From what I understand if you're going PC, Vegas Studio/Pro is the way to go and obviously on the mac it's Final Cut Express/Pro.

Adobe Premiere's AVCHD support isn't as far along and it's really expensive. The pro version of Vegas is about $500 (I'm only getting studio for now though).

manchild

Jan 7, 2009, 12:49 PM

Is that why it's been the second best selling Mac desktop at Amazon.com over the last 5 months?
When the desktop choices are iMac, Mac Mini and Mac Pro... Yes. The Apple Desktop ranking is iMac, Mac Mini, iMac, iMac, Mac Pro, Mac Mini. The Amazon statistics are a bit light on details as we are not given quantity sold.

I like the Mac Mini, I own a Mac Mini... and a 15" PowerBook and a MacBook. I will probably buy another Mac Mini in the future - for my livingroom, to replace my PowerBook with the busted screen. It's size and quiet operation makes it appealing for a great number of uses. Find a computer better suited for an HTPC for the price. How many people that vocally pine for an upgrade state that they will be hooking it up to their TV? I would still say that the Mac Mini has more support from the subculture (HTPC, Servers, Automotive Computers) than it has from Apple. They don't upgrade it because they don't need to. There's no competition - the sony vaio vgx-tp25e is $1900 and the via mini-itx is far less powerful (but still very cool.)

Edit: It appears that you may be able to get the vaio for $1280 refurbished at sonystyle.com, otherwise ~$1600... but still.

capo64

Jan 7, 2009, 01:36 PM

Take a look at http://www.apple.com/nz/ right now. One of the scrolling headlines is "Meet the new iMac".

Could there be a wee surprise heading our way sooner rather than later?

Went into the source code through some of their javascript files and found this URL:
http://www.apple.com/nz/home/2008/ticker.rss

The updated all-in-one iMac introduced today offers the latest Intel Core 2 Duo processors and the most powerful graphics ever available in an iMac. The ultimate all-in-one desktop computer includes faster processors with 6MB L2 cache, a faster 1066 MHz front-side bus across the entire line, and 2GB of memory standard in most models. And the 24-inch iMac now offers a 3.06 GHz Intel processor and the high-performance NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS graphics as options. Available immediately, the new iMac starts at just NZ$1,899 inc GST.

:-/

smitty5569

Jan 8, 2009, 05:57 AM

It's funny how no1 noticed that they ended the show with the song "The Best Is Yet To Come" by Tony Bennett.

Apocrathia

Jan 8, 2009, 06:22 AM

It's funny how no1 noticed that they ended the show with the song "The Best Is Yet To Come" by Tony Bennett.

you raise an interesting point, sir. the kids at apple are definitely subliminal bastards. Perhaps there will be some sort of bomb dropped on the last day of MW09?

panatha

Jan 8, 2009, 06:27 AM

true point about the song i reckon a big update or something spectacular soon maybe at the end of macworld or sometime this month?

Apocrathia

Jan 8, 2009, 07:47 AM

true point about the song i reckon a big update or something spectacular soon maybe at the end of macworld or sometime this month?

Jobs is going to pop out of the woodwork somewhere and say "oh yeah, phil forgot to mention this: "

Or the Woz is hiding something as he sits quietly at the axiotron booth...

MacGies

Jan 8, 2009, 08:14 AM

Boy was I disappointed, I sat ready to finally-finally buy a new mini... Actually, what I was really hoping for, was the end of "the missing Mac", just a good modern stylish Apple desktop computer (4-8GB RAM, 3.5"HD, newest processor and graphics, BlueRay). What is Apple doing?! The Mac Pro is very big and expensive, and the Mac Mini is very small. In between is nothing. Yes; the iMac, but that's an all-in-one that I don't need/want. A new Cube is what I really want, or else a BIG mini. I made a page about it, here (http://www.laesieworks.com/digg/Where_is_my_Big_mini.html), and if you would like to digg it, go here (http://digg.com/apple/Where_s_my_BIG_mini). "The Best Is Yet To Come"? I hope so. WHEN?

Soxy

Jan 8, 2009, 08:50 AM

It's funny how no1 noticed that they ended the show with the song "The Best Is Yet To Come" by Tony Bennett.

Followed by some random San Francisco song.

I was watching it Live, and I heard it, I was hoping he was gonna come back on stage and say "Oh, and another thing!".

There'd be no point in Apple sparing the expense to go to a huge event like MacWorld, then on the last day randomly announce an update to the iMac/Mac Mini...

So, not gonna happen.

gianpan

Jan 8, 2009, 08:58 AM

Went into the source code through some of their javascript files and found this URL:
http://www.apple.com/nz/home/2008/ticker.rss

:-/

and??? You know this is available since last year right?

Flynnstone

Jan 8, 2009, 01:05 PM

no new Mini,
but hey, Tony Bennett is incredibly smooth. And that's something, right?
..they haven't got rid of the final White MacBook from the Apple lineup either, well theirs always CES I suppose.
Well who else is infuriatingly disappointed? :mad:

N mini ... bummer. For the corporate customer a dual display mini .. perfect.

Tony Bennett ... interesting, but seemed odd.

White MacBook still for sale in store ... Firewire demand .

Flynnstone

Jan 8, 2009, 01:12 PM

History would indicate otherwise. New Macs have been released shortly before a new version of the OS on several occasions.

True, but the key to Snow Leopard is multi core Improved support/utilization.

Intel announced quad core laptop processors.

There could very well be a linkage. I hope :D

mybydee1

Jan 8, 2009, 01:46 PM

No iPhone Nano either but we saw that one coming :p.
10:34AM Well that's it folks -- no Steve, no iPhone nano, no new Mini, no new iMac, no shockers, no surprises. We're off to the floor... but hey, Tony Bennett is incredibly smooth. And that's something, right?
Bit of a let down though, they haven't got rid of the final White MacBook from the Apple lineup either, well theirs always CES I suppose.
Well who else is infuriatingly disappointed? :mad:

I am beyond displeased that the Mac Mini is being neglected by Apple, yet they make a $2800 MBP for the BMW/Lexus crowd . I guess the Mac Mini is so practical as is, they do not want to compete against themselves on the higher end stuff. pathetic methinks. Mac Rumors buying guide should reflect the fact that it does not seem that one is coming soon, also of note is the lack of any refurbished mac mini's in the Apple store. thoughts?