Macworld Rage Thread

[ritzuk]

Please express your unmitigated rage and/or disappointment below in the following format:

"Dear Sir,

I am enraged and/or disappointed by the January 2009 Macworld Expo because XXXXXXX

Yours faithfully,

RitzUK"

[dubhe]

So, anyone going to be watching the Keynote video when it is published on apple.com?

[ritzuk]

So, anyone going to be watching the Keynote video when it is published on apple.com?

It was painful enough watching a live feed. I'm not wasting any more of my time!

[NT1440]

What do people honestly have to be enraged about?

Were you promised something you didnt get?

[liquidtrend]

i was promised punch, and pie.


:)

[theMaccer]

So, anyone going to be watching the Keynote video when it is published on apple.com?

I doubt Apple will even put it out there.

[Eidorian]

What do people honestly have to be enraged about?

Were you promised something you didnt get?iMacs and Mac minis for people that keep waiting for an update one. :D

[kastenbrust]

Apples just spreading the candy throughout the year, releasing new hardware in Jan isnt ideal. Theyve already said they want to go down the route of their own press releases and whilst people thought it wouldnt be happening quite so soon i guess it is.

[Scarlet Fever]

I've never said this before, but that was weak. The updates to iLife and iWork are nice, but not huge, and I really doubt the 17" MBP needed that massive introduction. While Apple stuffs around with non-glossy glossy panels for the 17" MBP, there's a computer reaching 18 months old in dire need of attention, and all they do is load 10.5 onto it.

I can see why Jobs didn't do they keynote presentation. He'd rather leave the shame to Phil.

[ritzuk]

What do people honestly have to be enraged about?

Were you promised something you didnt get?

It's clear Apple didn't announce a sense of humour!

We all know rumours are rumours, and cannot be trusted. But I think more than one of us have been delaying purchasing iMacs and Mac Minis until an update.

Seeing as most Apple computers are all-in-one solutions, they have you by the short and curlies when you're looking to buy a new computer since you cannot install OS X onto another computer legally, and you cannot majorly upgrade a Mac (except Pro).

The Macworld is the one time you get a bit of slack, but those boys pulled hard instead!

Hence, DISAPPOINTMENT and RAGE from disgruntled mac fans like me!

[ritzuk]

I can see why Jobs didn't do they keynote presentation. He'd rather leave the shame to Phil.

I thought exactly the same thing! Poor Phil...

[ritzuk]

Apples just spreading the candy throughout the year, releasing new hardware in Jan isnt ideal. Theyve already said they want to go down the route of their own press releases and whilst people thought it wouldnt be happening quite so soon i guess it is.

This is really bad for us though. Apple can pull a switcheroo on us anytime they like now! It'll make the decision to buy a new Mac much more difficult, and a lot of consumers will be more than annoyed when a new Mac gets released the day after they bought the current model.

[themoonisdown09]

So, anyone going to be watching the Keynote video when it is published on apple.com?

I will. Even when the keynotes haven't been that great, I always watch them when Apple posts it.

[the vj]

What do people honestly have to be enraged about?

Were you promised something you didnt get?


When you see some one in the street with a harm, eye, leg misisng or with down syndrom or asking for money you can tell them that.

Or you can go to an emergency room or better! go to church and ask that to people beffore going to confessions.

In my case:
No new Mac Pros... this is worst that I though
No new cinema displays (the same model 3 years old)
No new Mac minis... way behind... but REALLY! behind in technology

And regarding the iMacs... that is not my market but the rest of the people can tell.

[urkel]

What do people honestly have to be enraged about?

Were you promised something you didnt get?

Snow Leopard, iMacs, Mac Minis, Time Capsule, AppleTV, Mac Pros. Sure, we weren't "promised" anything but at some point a customers loyalty needs to be rewarded with a clue of what's to come.

BTW, I'm not enraged since the only Apple product I'm buying soon is a new Macbook and those were already updated. But if you didn't get the humor intended by the OP then you can at least sympathize with dedicated fans who are begging for more ways to throw their money to Apple.

[fendol]

Nothing is promised and thus no one gets anxious. It doesn't seem as bad as it's being put, it seemed to be quite a fairly well organized event :):apple:http://www.seoagora.com/img/1261/v08t1201sxfb/cheers.gifhttp://www.seoagora.com/img/589/d08l1104oulu/smiley2.gifhttp://www.seoagora.com/img/459/k08q1024glza/ecstatic.gif

[QuantumLo0p]

iMacs and Mac minis for people that keep waiting for an update one. :D

I may start another thread titled: "THE INFAMOUS APPLE GAPING LINEUP HOLE IS STILL THERE AND BIGGER THAN EVER."
:eek:

This is a fact but feel free to debate it at your leisure.

[Sun Baked]

I may start another thread titled: "THE INFAMOUS APPLE GAPING LINEUP HOLE IS STILL THERE AND BIGGER THAN EVER."
:eek:

This is a fact but feel free to debate it at your leisure.

Seems like there are more than enough inflamed hemorrhoids to plug up that hole.

[Turmoil]

I may start another thread titled: "THE INFAMOUS APPLE GAPING LINEUP HOLE IS STILL THERE AND BIGGER THAN EVER."


please don't. that would be stupid.

[Turmoil]

So, anyone going to be watching the Keynote video when it is published on apple.com?

I'll watch it. I imagine most of the folks that usually watch it will watch it again.

[Winni]

In case you haven't noticed, but Apple is no longer a computer company, and their last financial report showed this very clearly. iTunes, the iPods and the iPhone are their cash cows -- not the Macs. Their most successful computer is the low-end MacBook, and it sells because of its nice design and the iLife consumer applications.

"The rest of us" are no longer Apple's target audience. Who's interested in toy software gets a new iPhoto, but a new major version of Aperture is nowhere to be seen. There's a new iMovie, but where's a new version of Final Cut Pro or at least an announcement for it? And, yes, they have not even introduced new hardware for that league of software.

By the way, when you click together a high-end configuration of the new 17" MacBook Pro, you'll end somewhere behind 5000 Euros. That's a ridiculous amount of money for such a machine just to run something like iLife 09 on it.

They should release Snow Leopard for non-Apple hardware and leave that entire computer hardware business behind.

[maccam]

It was a good show I thought. I hope phil is the next CEO of Apple.

iLife 09' is AMAZING! <---- That was enough for me :)

[SwiftLives]

Okay - let me look into my crystal ball real quick...

The iMacs will get a speed bump. You'll see nothing more than a press release for that one. Probably by the end of the month.

The iPhone and iPod touch will receive capacity bumps in February at the earliest. NAND Flash prices are dropping pretty fast. Apple will ride the higher margins as long as they can. Once competitors start releasing higher capacity phones, Apple will follow. Again - this will not warrant anything more than a press release.

And there's something else here...kind of foggy. It looks like a cross between a Mac Mini and an AppleTV. It also looks like it's own media event. This one is much hazier - it could happen anytime between now and March.

[Wingnut330]

Okay - let me look into my crystal ball real quick...

The iMacs will get a speed bump. You'll see nothing more than a press release for that one. Probably by the end of the month.

The iPhone and iPod touch will receive capacity bumps in February at the earliest. NAND Flash prices are dropping pretty fast. Apple will ride the higher margins as long as they can. Once competitors start releasing higher capacity phones, Apple will follow. Again - this will not warrant anything more than a press release.

And there's something else here...kind of foggy. It looks like a cross between a Mac Mini and an AppleTV. It also looks like it's own media event. This one is much hazier - it could happen anytime between now and March.

Interesting thoughts. Makes it appear that Apple is becoming a hardware provider as an afterthought. Produce PC upgrades regularly with no fanfare like Dell. Use the big events for software and media releases.

Seems to make sense to me but I have to admit I came to Apple because it was an all in one solution for me. I hope they don't neglect or abandon hardware altogether.

[Eric Piercey]

Apple's ambivalence toward their pro users has been bad but now the consumer users are getting on the WTF bandwagon. All it takes is some communication.

"Hi [insert group]... just to let you know we haven't forgotten you. We've received a lot of great feedback and have some great new fixes and features in the works. Expect updates late in the second quarter. Thanks for hanging in there in the meantime."


But no. Nope. For one people would plan their buying around the announcements. As it (apparently) is, people are buying stale hardware and software right up until the night before the next planned press event, completely ignorant of potential new releases. I have no problem believing it. I'm kind of the local Mac nerd on a forum elsewhere, and there's a lot of new Mac switchers all the time who have absolutely no clue about technology or computers. They just want Apple because that Justin feller is cool and the PC guy is a big fool.

Apple isn't immune to the degradation that comes to big companies when they start letting the marketing folks run things. Marketing, the downfall of civilization, I swear. I just heard an interesting story today that's analogous. There's a nice little new restaurant that's earned enough of a reputation to get a write up in the local paper. The influx of newcomers alienates the regulars who now have to wait 45 min to get served. Newcomers get the impression the place is over-hyped. In the end the restaurant goes out of business.

[macaddictann]

I wouldn't have minded a speed bump (or whatever) on the iMacs, as the death of my antique Powerbook nearly coincided with MacWorld (I only waited a week, at most, between deciding to get an iMac and ordering one), but it doesn't really matter. Heck, it keeps it simple. But I guess I won't be jumping for joy when a slick new one is released not too long from now (not that I'll consider it worth trading for).

What was all the "Even the small talk will be big" stuff about, though?

[~Shard~]

How can people be enraged over a keynote?!? :confused:

So, some technology you were hoping to be released today wasn't released. Oh my, horror of horrors. Such a tough life some people have.... :rolleyes:

Plus, Apple has a history of releasing hardware updates soon after major events so it wouldn't surprise me in the least if there are Mac mini, iMac and Apple TV updates announced in the nest few weeks...

[ritzuk]

How can people be enraged over a keynote?!? :confused:

So, some technology you were hoping to be released today wasn't released. Oh my, horror of horrors. Such a tough life some people have.... :rolleyes:

Plus, Apple has a history of releasing hardware updates soon after major events so it wouldn't surprise me in the least if there are Mac mini, iMac and Apple TV updates announced in the nest few weeks...

It's easy - just get all riled about it!

People plan their buying decisions around Macworld - so when ageing hardware that's well over due for a refresh ISN'T refreshed, everyone (who is sensible or can't wait) has to sit on their hands and wait for the next announcement. The worst part, is due to their new 'Apple Surprise' method of announcing products, consumers will start tasting some bad Apple CRUMBLE.

[mdntcallr]

Yeah, i am pretty frustrated that Apple didn't do any of the below:

1- No new iMac
2- No new Mac Mini
3- No new Apple TV
4- No new Mac Pro
5- No new line - Mid Range Power Mac mid sized Tower
6- No Blu-Ray
7- No new LCD monitors

[timestoby]

im mad at apple for having a fatman do the presentation.

[torger]

Yeah, i am pretty frustrated that Apple didn't do any of the below:

1- No new iMac
2- No new Mac Mini
3- No new Apple TV
4- No new Mac Pro
5- No new line - Mid Range Power Mac mid sized Tower
6- No Blu-Ray
7- No new LCD monitors

Number one there. RAGEEEEE:mad:

[aristobrat]

People plan their buying decisions around Macworld - so when ageing hardware that's well over due for a refresh ISN'T refreshed...
People paying attention to MacWorlds probably would have noticed that the last two (2007, 2008) had ZERO hardware updates and hopefully planned their buying decisions accordingly.

Aging hardware that was updated at 2008 MacWorld: none
(Office 2008, Time Capsule, iPhone update, AppleTV update, MacBook Air)

Aging hardware that was updated at 2007 MacWorld: none
(AppleTV, iPhone)

[IJ Reilly]

And now we know why Apple had to stop doing MacWorld. Apple didn't kill the expo, it was the people who demanded that they change their world every January who killed it.

[iParis]

I'm pretty pissed off but not enraged.
God dammit I wanted a Mac mini refresh.

[brand]

And now we know why Apple had to stop doing MacWorld. Apple didn't kill the expo, it was the people who demanded that they change their world every January who killed it.

And that is the truth.

[Tallest Skil]

Yeah, i am pretty frustrated that Apple didn't do any of the below:

4- No new Mac Pro
6- No Blu-Ray

4: Couldn't have happened.
6: I wrote a thing on why this won't happen until very near 2015. I can repost it if necessary.

[dXTC]

6: I wrote a thing on why this won't happen until very near 2015. I can repost it if necessary.

By then, the "Next Big Thing" in media storage/content delivery will have already been introduced. So, no need to repost. :)

[macaco74]

Macmini update, hopefully, will come in late january early feb to coincide with ilife. I am eager to get ilife but am looking to get a mini as well. I will wait until the mini comes out before getting ilife.

[Tallest Skil]

By then, the "Next Big Thing" in media storage/content delivery will have already been introduced. So, no need to repost. :)

Mmm... not really. Did you know they've expanded Blu-ray format disks to store 400GB and 500GB of data? They're working on a terabyte disk right now.

Blu-ray will be around for years, and that's the basis of my timeframe argument.

Still don't want me to repost it? :D

[Applenewbie99]

Anyone know when the next big announcements are usually made? Or are there no regular announcements outside of Macworld (now gone).

Waiting on a Mac Mini update.:confused::):o

[Tallest Skil]

Anyone know when the next big announcements are usually made? Or are there no regular announcements outside of Macworld (now gone).

Waiting on a Mac Mini update.:confused::):o

Apple now has the freedom to announce whenever they want to. We know even less about release dates now than we have ever known before.

[Applenewbie99]

Thanks Tallest Skil. I was afraid of that.:eek: I'll just keep waiting then. :(

[Tilpots]

The person who should be most ticked off is Phil.

He was given the keys to a Ferrari and then asked to park it.

He found a hot, naked lady in your bed and then was asked to fetch her a robe.

He was standing in the on deck circle, bottom of the ninth, 2 outs in the world series, and the guy at bat struck out.

He... well you get the picture.

He should back-hand Steve.:D

[yorkshire]

My time would have been better spent watching paint dry.

[aristobrat]

My time would have been better spent watching paint dry.
That comment's been made about every single MacWorld. There is no pleasing everybody.

[dalvin200]

My time would have been better spent watching paint dry.

i was watching Big Phil do the painting :D

[nick9191]

Can we start wastelanding some of these threads now?

[MrJingles]

How can people be enraged over a keynote?!? :confused:

So, some technology you were hoping to be released today wasn't released. Oh my, horror of horrors. Such a tough life some people have.... :rolleyes:

Plus, Apple has a history of releasing hardware updates soon after major events so it wouldn't surprise me in the least if there are Mac mini, iMac and Apple TV updates announced in the nest few weeks...

If someone complains in a "we love everything mac" thread people yell "GET OUT and stop ruining our party!" but someone makes a "For Angry People" Thread and those same people come in here and say "SHUT UP! You're ignorant and wrong followed by an insulting comment and ":rolleyes:"" so tell me is that that not the definition of a hypocrite?

People like us are angry because we are tired of waiting. Some of us are professionals who never touch the iLife suite (I use CS3/Lightroom2/Office 2008) and anyone who works in a corporate environment has to use Office 2004/08 so 3/4 of the keynote was devoted to teenagers and grandmas. Fine good for them but the MacPro hasn't been updated in a YEAR. The iMac is now grossly overpriced and underpowered including the Mac Mini which is now a joke.

If they actually updated hardware even half as fast as their competiion we would have less to scream about. It's also not anger at the keynote but more we saw this as a last ditch hope that we would FINALLY get something for the rest of us and yet again we were ignored.

So yes, some of us have something to be upset about.

[ritzuk]

Can we start wastelanding some of these threads now?

'So... Crapworld 2009' is my favourite thread title.

[colmaclean]

Anyone know when the next big announcements are usually made? Or are there no regular announcements outside of Macworld (now gone).

Maybe they'll have a special event later this month for the Mac's 25th birthday.

Or maybe not.

[ritzuk]

Maybe they'll have a special event later this month for the Mac's 25th birthday.

Or maybe not.

Or maybe they'll just curl one out and make a keynote out of it.

[Liamf555]

I do not see why everyone was so upset about macworld.I thought it was good. New iLife, iWork, drm free itunes, 17 inch macbook pro. I thought it was a decent showing. No it did not have any of the amazing new hardware people were expecting (hoping) for (iphone nano, new mac minis, mac tablet, new imacs etc.) However these were just rumours. If people did not hear these rumours, they probably wouldn't be so disappointed

[Tallest Skil]

I do not see why everyone was so upset about macworld.I thought it was good. New iLife, iWork, drm free itunes, 17 inch macbook pro. I thought it was a decent showing. No it did not have any of the amazing new hardware people were expecting (hoping) for (iphone nano, new mac minis, mac tablet, new imacs etc.) However these were just rumours. If people did not hear these rumours, they probably wouldn't be so disappointed

MacWorld 2006: Intel laptop/iMac
MacWorld 2007: iPhone
MacWorld 2008: ultraportable
MacWorld 2009: software

See a problem here?

[kastenbrust]

Great new product:

AppleFan iRage

real size foam head of Steve, sit, hit or smack to your hearts content.

Just dont leave it next to your Dell, or you'll void its warranty.

[IJ Reilly]

MacWorld 2006: Intel laptop/iMac
MacWorld 2007: iPhone
MacWorld 2008: ultraportable
MacWorld 2009: software and new 17' MacBook Pro

See a problem here?

Fixed that for you.

And, no.

[ucfgrad93]

i was promised punch, and pie.:)

Mmmmm, pie!:D

[Tallest Skil]

Fixed that for you.

And, no.

But an update and not a new product.

[nick9191]

MacWorld 2006: Intel laptop/iMac
MacWorld 2007: iPhone
MacWorld 2008: ultraportable
MacWorld 2009: software

See a problem here?
Yes, I see the problem that you focus on the most unimportant part of the product, ie. the hardware. What could you possibly find exciting about a bunch of generic hardware in a box?

I also see the problem that Steve has been rambling on about hardware for 3 keynotes when he could have talked about something that matters.

[IJ Reilly]

But an update and not a new product.

Completely redesigned.

Macworld is no longer the be-all end-all of the Apple universe. We've gotten that message loud and clear. You might want to get used to it.

[Tallest Skil]

Yes, I see the problem that you focus on the most unimportant part of the product, ie. the hardware. What could you possibly find exciting about a bunch of generic hardware in a box?

I also see the problem that Steve has been rambling on about hardware for 3 keynotes when he could have talked about something that matters.

I'm troubled by this. What you're saying is: Apple could sell me computers that use nothing but single-core Atom processors, include 128MB of RAM, and have a 512MB SD card for system memory, but as long as the software looks cool, I don't care!

Try running good software on hardware that sucks. Then come back and tell me that hardware is unimportant.

[Scarlet Fever]

Completely redesigned.

I see your point, but it's an update few are going to find useful. From what I've seen, the Mac Pro outsells the 17" MacBook Pro by a fair margin. The most innovative part of the new 17" MBP is the larger, non-removable battery with a special chip in it.

Compare this to the computers running on completely new hardware in 2006, an entrance into the mobile phone industry in 2007, and Apple's (and apparently the world's) thinnest and lightest 13" notebook in 2008, and a bigger battery doesn't seem so flash.


Macworld is no longer the be-all end-all of the Apple universe. We've gotten that message loud and clear. You might want to get used to it.

It looks like we have no choice now :rolleyes:

[heavymetal4god]

So, anyone going to be watching the Keynote video when it is published on apple.com?

i think Phil Schiller did a great job, he just had horrible material to show.

[IJ Reilly]

I see your point, but it's an update few are going to find useful. From what I've seen, the Mac Pro outsells the 17" MacBook Pro by a fair margin. The most innovative part of the new 17" MBP is the larger, non-removable battery with a special chip in it.

Compare this to the computers running on completely new hardware in 2006, an entrance into the mobile phone industry in 2007, and Apple's (and apparently the world's) thinnest and lightest 13" notebook in 2008, and a bigger battery doesn't seem so flash.

Whatever you say, it's still a redesigned hardware product. How many or few will "find it useful" is not for your or me to decide, nor is it particularly relevant. We went through the same nonsense when the MacBook Air came out. Lots of people here declared it dead on arrival because it wasn't something they were going to buy.

It looks like we have no choice now :rolleyes:

Apple can now time the release of their products so they fit better with their business cycle. I'm still trying to figure out why this such a big problem for some.

[QuantumLo0p]

All in all, it still sucked quite badly. It is what it is and I am not going to attempt to analyze it further nor put lipstick on a pig.
:eek:

[colickyboy]

Whatever you say, it's still a redesigned hardware product.

This redesign was actually debuted last year for the smaller laptops; a debut of the same redesign for a bigger laptop is hardly noteworthy. The only new aspect of this "redesigned hardware product" is the battery.

[Superman07]

What irks me about the only hardware announced (17" MBP) was that it was completely expected. It's not like they pulled out a surprise new product, or even a "new" update (e.g. Mac Pro). While the non-removeable battery is a new "feature", that is really the only thing that was worth mentioning. Otherwise it could have been a silent update on the webpage. I think most users here see the announcement of the MBP 17" as a wasted opportunity that took up needless time.

[charlesbronsen]

that was the first macworld i have ever seen and i thought phil did an excellent job! When he was explaining the new iLife I was impressed and thinking Wow! This is great I need this. After watching the entire macworld I realized i didn't need any of and I was being brainwashed. It is nice to see someone as passionate about what they do as Phil though. All in all I walked away very impressed with apple... then my iMac crashed:p

[hacksaw-C87]

I'm a Mac newbie but it seems, in my humble opinion, that any company pushing to 'Wow' their consumers once a year in the same month are eventually going to have to knock it on the head. This doesn't necessarily mean that Apple isn't having the ideas, but the constriction of a release date of January every year can't make sense. It isn't exactly peak purchasing period. As much as I'd have loved Apple to release iLife 09, Snow Leopard, iWork, a new iMac, a new Mac Mini and a MacNetbook all at the same time, it was never going to make business sense and therefore it hasn't happened.

[ritzuk]

Completely redesigned.

Macworld is no longer the be-all end-all of the Apple universe. We've gotten that message loud and clear. You might want to get used to it.

This is really bad for the consumer though. We now no longer know when Apple are going to change their product line, and a lot of people are going to get burnt.

I WILL NOT GET USED TO IT!


RAAAAGGEEE!

[ritzuk]

Great new product:

AppleFan iRage

real size foam head of Steve, sit, hit or smack to your hearts content.

Just dont leave it next to your Dell, or you'll void its warranty.

Even this wasn't announced at MacWorld.

[IJ Reilly]

This is really bad for the consumer though. We now no longer know when Apple are going to change their product line, and a lot of people are going to get burnt.

I WILL NOT GET USED TO IT!


RAAAAGGEEE!

That's just silly. Apple has been releasing products throughout the year for a long time. You can never get "burnt" if you buy what you need when you need it.