Macworld 2009 Keynote Stream Available [Archive]

MacRumors

Jan 6, 2009, 03:27 PM

http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/01/06/macworld-2009-keynote-stream-available/)

Apple has posted (http://www.macrumors.com/c.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.apple.com%2Fquicktime%2Fqtv%2Fkeynote%2F&t=1231237592) the QuickTime video stream of today's Macworld Expo keynote by Phil Schiller. Apple made a number of announcements at today's event:

- Apple Releases Aluminum Unibody 17" MacBook Pro (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/01/06/apple-releases-aluminum-unibody-17-macbook-pro/)
- Apple Announces Changes to iTunes Stores: DRM Free, Variable Pricing (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/01/06/apple-announces-changes-to-itunes-store/)
- Apple Releases iWork '09 (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/01/06/apple-releases-iwork-09/)
- Apple Announces iLife '09 (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/01/06/apple-announces-ilife-09/)

All of these announcements had been the subject of pre-event rumors, although several expected releases, including new Mac minis and iMacs, did not come to fruition. We will post a full rumor wrap-up in the next few days.

Article Link: Macworld 2009 Keynote Stream Available (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/01/06/macworld-2009-keynote-stream-available/)

Sky Blue

Jan 6, 2009, 03:28 PM

Wow, 'Disconnected' already.

840quadra

Jan 6, 2009, 03:29 PM

Awesome. Starting the stream now. Thanks for sharing!

http://forums.macrumors.com/image.php?u=47064&dateline=1165207334&type=profile

mandoman

Jan 6, 2009, 03:29 PM

No mini, sigh.

idonotliketostu

Jan 6, 2009, 03:29 PM

wheres my iphone nano :(

fendol

Jan 6, 2009, 03:30 PM

- Apple Releases Aluminum Unibody 17" MacBook Pro
- Apple Announces Changes to iTunes Stores: DRM Free, Variable Pricing
- Apple Releases iWork '09
- Apple Announces iLife '09

Oh yeah baby, thanks for posting. 'Till next year, and let's hope it's somewhat more exciting :eek::apple:http://www.seoagora.com/img/589/d08l1104oulu/smiley2.gif
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allymac

Jan 6, 2009, 03:31 PM

Still no mac mini update. I was convinced it was coming this time :mad:

Chandler Adaway

Jan 6, 2009, 03:31 PM

That link gave me a different event with Steve?

nemodomi

Jan 6, 2009, 03:31 PM

Geeze, what a disappointing yawner of a Keynote.

Micrll

Jan 6, 2009, 03:32 PM

I will probably watch bits of the keynote but I am actually interested most in the Tony Bennett ending, and yep its part of the steam.

Rantipole

Jan 6, 2009, 03:33 PM

No new iMac? WTF!

swissmann

Jan 6, 2009, 03:34 PM

WPB2

Jan 6, 2009, 03:34 PM

What the heck happened with all those rumors "Mac mini with support for dual displays, & iPhone nano? This really was crapworld 09"

Max Book

Jan 6, 2009, 03:35 PM

Now we know why Steve didn't want to give the keynote. He didn't want all the disappointed iMac & Mini fans to direct their collective anger at him. He threw Phil under the bus on this one. :D

Alanki30

Jan 6, 2009, 03:36 PM

Instead of new stuff, perhaps they could finally deliver on stuff they've already promised nearly a year ago: like real push services for the iPhone ...

Has there ever been any more information about that? Or are they hoping no one noticed?

WPB2

Jan 6, 2009, 03:36 PM

Lesser Evets

Jan 6, 2009, 03:37 PM

I BELIEVE!!!...

there will be a Mac Mini update within the next 2 or 3 years.
Minimum!

~Shard~

Jan 6, 2009, 03:38 PM

Great, I'll fire this up right now and have a watch. ;) I wonder if the hardware updates (iMac, Mac mini etc) will be released in the next few weeks - Apple has done that before...

WPB2

Jan 6, 2009, 03:39 PM

I BELIEVE!!!...

there will be a Mac Mini update within the next 2 or 3 years.
Minimum!

Thanks grammar police.

Chandler Adaway

Jan 6, 2009, 03:40 PM

Is everyone seriously getting the right conference?
I've tried everything and no matter what I do, it shows me the Macbook release.

Any ideas?

arturb

Jan 6, 2009, 03:40 PM

At least on my machine i have an old keynote Dev 2008, anybody else?

mogzieee

Jan 6, 2009, 03:40 PM

wheres my iphone nano :(

You'll never get one.

Watching the stream now.

dissdnt

Jan 6, 2009, 03:41 PM

LOL I was watching the first 2 min of the new keynote and then it turned into the last one with Jobs.. haha

FireArse

Jan 6, 2009, 03:41 PM

Chandler Adaway

Jan 6, 2009, 03:42 PM

This is frustrating.

Yvan256

Jan 6, 2009, 03:42 PM

I think we'll see the new Mac mini at the end of january, when iLife '09 is ready.

ddTaylor

Jan 6, 2009, 03:42 PM

Now we know why Steve didn't want to give the keynote. He didn't want all the disappointed iMac & Mini fans to direct their collective anger at him. He threw Phil under the bus on this one. :D

THAT is an understatement if I ever I have heard one! This sucked and we now know why Mr. Jobs did not wish to give this one! What a way to go out at Macworld, eh? What a suckfest. That was the suckiest bunch of suck that ever sucked. Period!

D

MacFever

Jan 6, 2009, 03:43 PM

here's a clip of just the 17" macbook pro being presented by Schiller from ZDnet

http://news.zdnet.com/2422-19178_22-257574.html?tag=nl.e589

phippmasterflex

Jan 6, 2009, 03:43 PM

Schiller looks an awful lot like Steve lol
The video that plays is from the notebook event in October

dave-k

Jan 6, 2009, 03:44 PM

What the heck happened with all those rumors "Mac mini with support for dual displays, & iPhone nano? This really was crapworld 09"

That's the trouble with rumours. Most of them are wrong!

illitrate23

Jan 6, 2009, 03:45 PM

i get the impression that they're saving the big hardware announcements to do on their own time at their own press events -

Maxington

Jan 6, 2009, 03:45 PM

http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/01/06/macworld-2009-keynote-stream-available/)

All of these announcements had been the subject of pre-event rumors, although several expected releases, including new Mac minis and iMacs, did not come to fruition. We will post a full rumor wrap-up in the next few days.

Article Link: Macworld 2009 Keynote Stream Available (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/01/06/macworld-2009-keynote-stream-available/)

Bah. I was hoping for a mac mini update...

paquetja

Jan 6, 2009, 03:46 PM

I think we'll see the new Mac mini at the end of january, when iLife '09 is ready.

You mean 2109, right?

lmcintyre

Jan 6, 2009, 03:46 PM

singhjeet29

Jan 6, 2009, 03:47 PM

Honestly all I wanted to see was Snow Leopard, and I remember people saying a while ago that it would be at Mac World, pretty disappointed in the no-show. The new 17 macbook is nice ... 7 hour battery life is beastly. I hope they adopt this fixed battery for all the pro laptops. I'd like to see what the anti-glare screen actually looks like.

Overall this Macworld wasn't that stellar, which is sad, being the last one.

Gonna go watch the keynote now.

Methanoid

Jan 6, 2009, 03:48 PM

Just registered after a year of lurking, to say, what a total waste of reading time to see the summary of what must have been the dullest Mac expo ever.

Where was the Mini with 9400M? The Alu body? Something.

It's the only Apple I will buy for my first Mac, not gonna spend all that dosh trying out other hardware. Mini was Apple's entry level and its looking very dated now...

Major missed opportunity. I feel sorry for the poor chump Steve Jobs dumped that one on.... :(

~Shard~

Jan 6, 2009, 03:48 PM

Thanks grammar police.

Hmmm, interesting, that's usually my job, being the MacRumors Bastard™ and all... :p ;)

Is everyone seriously getting the right conference?
I've tried everything and no matter what I do, it shows me the Macbook release.

Any ideas?

Mine doesn't appear to be working right, I'm going to try again...

MacFever

Jan 6, 2009, 03:50 PM

morespce54

Jan 6, 2009, 03:50 PM

LOL I was watching the first 2 min of the new keynote and then it turned into the last one with Jobs.. haha

That must be 4chan... again... ;)

amac4me

Jan 6, 2009, 03:50 PM

Gonna watch now

salvatorereda

Jan 6, 2009, 03:50 PM

what thats it?

I guess rumors was really off this time around
we dont even have june to look forward to

so much for Apple when Jobs is not at the helm

mgrafton

Jan 6, 2009, 03:51 PM

Let's be honest, there wasn't much to introduce and Schiller still did a REALLY good job. His presenting skills were almost as good as Stevie J's rdf. I would imagine that when Jobs decides it's time to step down the board is going to have Phil be the next CEO.

I agree. It's not Phil's fault. He is just turning into a scapegoat here. That is just my opinion though. I was still disappointed as a whole. :(

Djcyder

Jan 6, 2009, 03:52 PM

lets see

1. no iphone nano, verizon iphone or anything like that
2. no new mini
3. no new imac

what we did get was

1. A reason for me to keep my santa rosa based 17" mbp another year
2. A reason not to upgrade to ilife 09
3. A reason to build my own mac pro

xDYLANx

Jan 6, 2009, 03:56 PM

is the video quality horrible?!?!?!

it's like thumbnail size and when i full screen it it's so pixely i cant barely make anything out

:mad::apple::mad:

baltas

Jan 6, 2009, 03:56 PM

this is strange, but when i open the link, the stream that starts is the october 2008 keynote... :|

Razzerman

Jan 6, 2009, 03:56 PM

Okay, let me get this right - Apple announce they'll no longer be attending the Macworld event, then deliver a spectacularly bad keynote, designed to leave a bad taste in the mouth. It's worked, everyone is moaning so Apple have done the right thing and pulled out of future events.

Anyhow, where's my Mac Mini? :confused:

~Shard~

Jan 6, 2009, 03:59 PM

this is strange, but when i open the link, the stream that starts is the october 2008 keynote... :|

Others are having the same issue, I'd check back in a while to see if Apple has fixed this issue...

Anyhow, where's my Mac Mini? :confused:

Just because it wasn't updated today doesn't mean it won't be updated at all. Apple has had a history of releasing hardware updates just after major events, so see what happens in the next few weeks. If I recall correctly the last time Apple updated the mini is was a rather silent update as well, although this update would hopefully be more significant.

azentropy

Jan 6, 2009, 03:59 PM

No real reason for me to watch either. Knew it was going to be a letdown when they spend the first hour covering iLife and iWork... yawn...

At least they added a anti-glare option for the 17" and did it right by also removing the reflective black bezel too! Hopefully that is a sign that they will then add it to the 15", the MacBook and the iMac! I won't and can't buy a glossy screen - period.

I'm still hoping they will phase in iMac and Mac mini upgrades over the next couple of weeks (like they did last year). I have an Apple Developer Hardware Discount voucher I need to use before the end of the month and currently they don't make anything I'm interested in purchasing - even with the discount!

xDYLANx

Jan 6, 2009, 04:01 PM

I have an Apple Developer Hardware Discount voucher I need to use before the end of the month and currently they don't make anything I'm interested in purchasing - even with the discount!

I'll take it off your hands, I need a new iPod :D

doug in albq

Jan 6, 2009, 04:03 PM

I bet the 17 inch Macbook Pro was purposely held up in its release just so Apple would have SOMETHING to show at this Macworld.

Big-time let down.

inkswamp

Jan 6, 2009, 04:05 PM

I've been following the Mac community since before the 2.5GHz G5 came out. Have been an avid Mac fan since. Honestly, I know my way around the hardware & software of a Mac.

Not once have I got one of these freaking streams to display!!

You're not alone. Typically, right after the Macworld keynote, everyone rushes in to watch the stream and as a result the feed stutters pretty badly unless you're lucky. Usually someone posts a direct download link to the movie file or it shows up as a free download in iTunes. If I'm interested in watching the keynote, I just start that downloading (which is excruciatingly slow) and go find something else to do for an hour or so.

Hushbull

Jan 6, 2009, 04:06 PM

So that's it?
Do they anounce other things during the rest of the expo? (tablet, enlarged ipod touch?)

~Shard~

Jan 6, 2009, 04:06 PM

I bet the 17 inch Macbook Pro was purposely held up in its release just so Apple would have SOMETHING to show at this Macworld.

Yeah, who knows - but at least it was announced! As for other hardware updates (iMac, Mac mini, Apple TV) I could see Apple releasing updates to these in the very near future without an event - they have done it many times before...

Full of Win

Jan 6, 2009, 04:06 PM

Wow... Windows 7 is looking better and better every day. What we saw today was a bloated slob giving us crap.

sharp65

Jan 6, 2009, 04:07 PM

Seems to be the wrong keynote, they did have the correct one on their for a short amount of time.

~Shard~

Jan 6, 2009, 04:08 PM

What we saw today was a bloated slob giving us crap.

Was Balmer speaking at CES today? :confused:

:p :cool:

Joelg88

Jan 6, 2009, 04:10 PM

ChrisA

Jan 6, 2009, 04:10 PM

I suspect Apple is keeping alot of the Snow Leopard features secret...

Not much of a secret. Applw will give out copies of Snow Leopard to anyone who signs up and pays a small fee to get on the developer's list. I asume Microsoft has many people signed up. I hope everyoe at MS' Mac Office team is.

If you can't afford the fee, All the latest Snow Leopard builds end of on bit torrent sites. Anyone who wants a look can go there and download it.

For the typical end user there is nothing to see. Some new APIs to learn if you are writing software

If you want to play with ZFS you are best off geting Solaris and running that inside VMware. ZFS is mature on Solaris but not ready yet on Mac OS.

chadder007

Jan 6, 2009, 04:11 PM

Apple believes Blu-Ray is dead (or going to be dead soon), they are pushing streaming content over AppleTv.

Thats going to be a little hard considering Comcast and Time Warner are capping their bandwidth now. Probably to help keep their Cable TV divisions going....

~Shard~

Jan 6, 2009, 04:12 PM

Thats going to be a little hard considering Comcast and Time Warner are capping their bandwidth now. Probably to help keep their Cable TV divisions going....

Why would they do such a thing? :rolleyes: ;)

Yeah, that could definitely end up being costly for those wanting to move everything online in this respect. Physical media will still be around for a long time to come. :cool:

thedoctor

Jan 6, 2009, 04:14 PM

I think we'll see the new Mac mini at the end of january, when iLife '09 is ready.

Everything that was announced today looks good but I *NEED* a new Mac mini as I've just upgraded my TV to 1080p and my 1st gen G4 mini needs more poke to drive it without glitches.

So I guess I must wait yet again ... still if it means I get a free upgrade to iLife'09 then sweeeet 8-)

The mini is still the best value mac around and super for a HDTV media centre (Elgato eyeTV is simply excellent as a tuner).

BornAgainMac

Jan 6, 2009, 04:16 PM

Phil is now even thinner.

mca7

Jan 6, 2009, 04:16 PM

Why is everything now in Bold on the Mac Rumors homepage??

Andy-V

Jan 6, 2009, 04:18 PM

Why is everything now in Bold on the Mac Rumors homepage??

He didn't close the bold tag around the update it seems.

twoodcc

Jan 6, 2009, 04:19 PM

looking forward to watching this, though i think i'll wait for the podcast on itunes

~Shard~

Jan 6, 2009, 04:19 PM

Everything that was announced today looks good but I *NEED* a new Mac mini as I've just upgraded my TV to 1080p and my 1st gen G4 mini needs more poke to drive it without glitches.

So I guess I must wait yet again ... still if it means I get a free upgrade to iLife'09 then sweeeet 8-)

The mini is still the best value mac around and super for a HDTV media centre (Elgato eyeTV is simply excellent as a tuner).

You may not need to wait long. Apple has often released hardware updates after big events - just because they didn't announce something today doesn't mean you will necessarily have to wait forever. Give it a few weeks and see if the initial rumors are true - I'd be surprised if Apple truly EOLs the Mac mini. The only way I see this happening is if they transition it into a larger home media server, combining it with the Apple TV and Time Capsule.

mca7

Jan 6, 2009, 04:20 PM

I love how Phil is using one of the older cinema displays instead of the new one with the glossy screen. Probably because using a glossy screen monitor with all those studio lights would be near impossible to read the content on screen.....hmmmmmmmmm :rolleyes:.

Granted Steve has used glossy screen iMacs for keynotes. Just saying.

gugy

Jan 6, 2009, 04:21 PM

Lame MWSF.

Steve passed the torch to Phil to avoid the embarrassment of announcing no big deal products.

I guess Apple indeed did not like MWSF anymore. What a horrible way to end the keynotes experience there.

Hopefully soon a special event will bring what we are really looking for.

Prom1

Jan 6, 2009, 04:22 PM

Whats with everything in BOLD text on the main page?

OllyW

Jan 6, 2009, 04:24 PM

Was Balmer speaking at CES today? :confused:

:p :cool:

It's his turn tomorrow.

I wonder if it will be as much of a let down as the one we got today?

redgaz26

Jan 6, 2009, 04:24 PM

watching just now without any problems!!
I'm nearly sleeping already:rolleyes:

swb1192

Jan 6, 2009, 04:25 PM

Whats with everything in BOLD text on the main page?

Looks like arn forgot to end his bold html tag ;D

WildCowboy

Jan 6, 2009, 04:25 PM

Why is everything now in Bold on the Mac Rumors homepage??

Whats with everything in BOLD text on the main page?

Sorry, as mentioned, there was a missing slash that left the bold tag open.

Video looks to be fixed now.

ilovetomac

Jan 6, 2009, 04:28 PM

So today we saw no Desktop Mac updates. They are all due for updates too. Especially the Mac Mini.
I think that what Apple will do is that within the next 3 months they will have a Desktop Mac Event where they will focus on the iMac, Mac Pro and Mac Mini. I highly think thats what will happen. So lets just wait and see. But I think we'll see another event before the end of March for sure.
Remember. This is just what I think though.

And this event will be marked by the release of Snow Leopard.

What is the goal of Snow Leopard?
- Stability
- Smaller binaries dropping power pc support

Considering that the new hardware is not ready and you still have changes creeping into the operating system from that angle and you got beaten up for relasing mega patches for Leopard. What would you do?

New hardware and snow leo will come hand in hand. Releasing snow leopard at the same time and not earlier will put another hardware generation between power pc's and the end of life in Mac OS.

a104375

Jan 6, 2009, 04:28 PM

next tuesday apple will probably have a special event for the landmark stuff with steve.. in a smaller less populated area

iChan

Jan 6, 2009, 04:31 PM

running (relatively) HD for me.

schneb

Jan 6, 2009, 04:32 PM

Bald and dust covered, the hundreds of drone users rebuild the screen of Big Brother.

START VOICE OVER NARRATION

"In 2009, Apple said farewell to big convention announcements. From now on, starting this April, all announcement will be made via live feed at your local Apple Store."

Show the woman in the jogging suit using the hammer to drive in a key pin to the projection screen scaffold.

"And in 2009, you will understand why we no longer announce like 1984." :apple:

dissdnt

Jan 6, 2009, 04:37 PM

jbee

Jan 6, 2009, 04:38 PM

~Shard~

Jan 6, 2009, 04:39 PM

Macword is kinda stupid, who puts a trade show right after xmas anyway?

Well, there is this slightly bigger one (http://www.cesweb.org/)... :p ;)

I can understand why things aren't ready or not a good time show off. I can see in a few months the previous rumors will come to fruition.

I see it taking even less than a few months...

jscaff

Jan 6, 2009, 04:40 PM

Damn, I need some new iMacs for my business, and I'm ready to buy NOW but nothing pisses me off more than buying new computers just to see newer better cheaper models come out a few weeks later.

Hey Phil, wasn't there just "one more thing"???

bjornm

Jan 6, 2009, 04:41 PM

~Shard~

Jan 6, 2009, 04:41 PM

Hugely disappointing. Unbelievable almost.

The cumbersome 17" MacBook Pro - no big deal at all there. The software - nothing groundbreaking.

Apple - blow us away with a superb MacPro?! It's way overdue.

*** sigh ***

Now do you see why Apple is opting out of these trade shows in the future? :p ;) Let them release products on their own schedule, and not have to worry about conforming to people's expectations of releasing certain things on certain dates lest they get all sucky and disappointed. :cool:

The Samurai

Jan 6, 2009, 04:57 PM

Since this was the last appearance of Apple on Mac World, I'm sure they have saved something for later. Saving for another event (their own) kind of proves that Mac World is less important.

I would not be worried.

I agree.

I wouldn't be surprised if they update the Mac Mini in the next few days/weeks. They are aware of the Mac Mini - its out-dated and over priced for current times. Also, by launching it at another event (other than Macworld) it would make sense for Apple re-iterating that 'Macworld is not needed'.

Patience :D

DaBrain

Jan 6, 2009, 04:57 PM

~Shard~

Jan 6, 2009, 05:00 PM

I agree.

I wouldn't be surprised if they update the Mac Mini in the next few days/weeks. They are aware of the Mac Mini - its out-dated and over priced for current times. Also, by launching it at another event (other than Macworld) it would make sense for Apple re-iterating that 'Macworld is not needed'.

Patience :D

Yep - see my post above - Apple doesn't want to be tethered to these trade shows any more and be forced to release products on certain days in advance, so this will give them more flexibility. Apple has released updates to products lines shortly after major events previously, so I could easily see them updating the iMac, Mac mini and Apple TV in the next few weeks.

joost538

Jan 6, 2009, 05:00 PM

I've been following the Mac community since before the 2.5GHz G5 came out. Have been an avid Mac fan since. Honestly, I know my way around the hardware & software of a Mac.

Not once have I got one of these freaking streams to display!!

Is there some readme I'm missing out on? Is it sheer numbers stressing the servers?

F

Try going into Quicktime preferences and set the streaming protocol to HTTP.

SFStateStudent

Jan 6, 2009, 05:03 PM

Not totally disappointed, but somewhat of a letdown for me and my crew.:(

milo

Jan 6, 2009, 05:04 PM

You'll never get one.

Ouch, way to virtually guarantee that you'll be proved wrong eventually.

H.isidorius

Jan 6, 2009, 05:04 PM

Everything that was announced today looks good but I *NEED* a new Mac mini ...

I fully agree with this. I use iWork a lot and a number of improvements were really needed. I do not know whether I like the new internet based stuff, but we will see.

The only issue I have now, is the lack of new hardware (new screens and MacPro). I have to spend the money before mid of January to have it booked on the last fiscal year. Doubt whether that will be the case :(

~Shard~

Jan 6, 2009, 05:05 PM

Not totally disappointed, but somewhat of a letdown for me and my crew.:(

This demonstrates exactly why Apple is planning on abandoning trade shows - they want to release products on their own schedule without having to be tied down to specific dates when people will have high expectations for them. It's probably going to be better this way...

milo

Jan 6, 2009, 05:05 PM

That's the trouble with rumours. Most of them are wrong!

Not lately, for the last few keynotes and events virtually everything has leaked ahead of time.

rathbone919

Jan 6, 2009, 05:06 PM

why do they do this to me? are they really going to hold off releasing this thing for another few months just to spite people for releasing pre-release news/reports/rumors. mofo's.

newyorkguy

Jan 6, 2009, 05:07 PM

Geeze, what a disappointing yawner of a Keynote.

just the only reason Steve kept away.

Nothing special, Nothing special, here it is.

milo

Jan 6, 2009, 05:07 PM

Honestly all I wanted to see was Snow Leopard, and I remember people saying a while ago that it would be at Mac World, pretty disappointed in the no-show.

At best it would have been a demo, which wouldn't have been that exciting considering no major new features are promised.

Out of all the possibilities, this was probably the LEAST likely considering that apple said it will ship midyear.

~Shard~

Jan 6, 2009, 05:07 PM

why do they do this to me? are they really going to hold off releasing this thing for another few months just to spite people for releasing pre-release news/reports/rumors. mofo's.

I don't know if it will necessarily be months - could be only weeks...

iSee

Jan 6, 2009, 05:08 PM

Macword is kinda stupid, who puts a trade show right after xmas anyway?

I can understand why things aren't ready or not a good time show off. I can see in a few months the previous rumors will come to fruition.

Yep. Apple's big markets are general consumers and students. And they don't like to announce products too far in advance of when they are available.

So they would really want to announce major products in the summer and before the holiday season. Early January is about the worst time to target for major releases.

milo

Jan 6, 2009, 05:08 PM

It's not Phil's fault.

Who blamed Phil, I haven't seen that at all?

The problem isn't the guy, it's the lack of updated product.

~Shard~

Jan 6, 2009, 05:10 PM

At best it would have been a demo, which wouldn't have been that exciting considering no major new features are promised.

Out of all the possibilities, this was probably the LEAST likely considering that apple said it will ship midyear.

I agree, not much significant to show about it that hasn't already been shown I'm guessing. We'll get some more info on it in the upcoming months I'm sure....

Lucbert

Jan 6, 2009, 05:11 PM

I Know that people say this after every keynote, but this time it's true! Worst Keynote EVER!

-No iPhone Update (Push?!?!)
-No Online iWork (I laughed so hard when he announced iWork.com and it's best feature is to share docs online)
-Integrated Battery in the 17''
-No new Mac Mini (?!?!?!?!? WTF?!!)
-No Steve (although Schiller wasn't that bad)
-Horrible band playing at the end of the keynote
-Top Songs now 1,29 (come on people, we all know that only old and unpopular songs are priced at ,69)
-No Iphone Nano
-No new iMac
-No Snow Leopard announcement or new infos.

~Shard~

Jan 6, 2009, 05:11 PM

Who blamed Phil, I haven't seen that at all?

The problem isn't the guy, it's the lack of updated product.

3 updated products today, more to come in the very near future - it'll all be okay, don't worry... ;)

milo

Jan 6, 2009, 05:13 PM

What is the goal of Snow Leopard?
- Stability
- Smaller binaries dropping power pc support

Except that there is absolutely no confirmation from Apple that they're dropping PPC, is there?

gonnabuyamac

Jan 6, 2009, 05:13 PM

obviously we weren't the only ones disappointed.

the stock took a hit after the keynote.

milo

Jan 6, 2009, 05:16 PM

3 updated products today, more to come in the very near future - it'll all be okay, don't worry... ;)

Yeah, and two of those snoozer software updates. Sure more is to come, but it's particularly painful when so many models are SO overdue for an update.

Razzerman

Jan 6, 2009, 05:17 PM

Just because it wasn't updated today doesn't mean it won't be updated at all. Apple has had a history of releasing hardware updates just after major events, so see what happens in the next few weeks. If I recall correctly the last time Apple updated the mini is was a rather silent update as well, although this update would hopefully be more significant.

Yeah, I know - and I'll be waiting along with a lot of other folks. Point is, Apple had a chance to give Phil a nice start to his keynote career by introducing a little bit more at the last Macworld - hopefully this means that Jobsy ain't done giving his keynotes just yet.

milo

Jan 6, 2009, 05:17 PM

obviously we weren't the only ones disappointed.

the stock took a hit after the keynote.

Except that it pretty much always does, even when they release spectacular product.

PedalInducedBob

Jan 6, 2009, 05:18 PM

Tony Bennett singing "The Best is Yet to Come"

I think that says it all... and I think it won't be long for it to come either. (I hope)

MacsRgr8

Jan 6, 2009, 05:18 PM

Let's be honest... this was totally expected!

One of the reasons why Apple wants to move away from these conferences, is this kind of crap from us rumour-hunters.

Every time it is the same ol' story...
Weeks building up to the MacWorld or WWDC Keynote are always full of rumours what to expect, and I think I am not far off when I say about 50% of the rumours actually come true.

Apple have said before that they want to move away from these events for hardware launches, and today is case in point.

The rumoured Mac mini and iMac are sure to be launched shortly. Presumably within a month, but if no form factor is changed and if it is only seen as an update, it will get a silent update.

Remember the new Mac Pro which was launched a week before MWSF '08?
Same test case, same proof.

Stop whining about not getting the products you hoped for at this event!!

The MBP 17" with its great battery deserved the time. iLife 09 and iWork 09 needed a demo. That was great.
Phil has done it well, even if he missed a word or two, but he has done the impossible: doing a Steve-note @ MWSF. And he did it very nicely indeed.

Snow Leopard?
Really, I thought it was already mentioned: it is far from finished! Why demo a mid-way beta @ MWSF?

IN short:
Good buy, MacWorld.
Hello, timely updates and press events for each one.

The rumour mill will get used it.

entropi

Jan 6, 2009, 05:18 PM

For me the keynote was all ok - iWork are now localized to swedish and finally Apple released a computer perfect for me to replace my aging PowerBook G4 17" (last PPC model, oct 2005). A matte 17" HD-screen + 256 GB SSD, great! (I couldn't care less about the absence of blu-ray)

Phil Schiller isn't Steve Jobs but he delievered a good enough keynote - the presentation must be fairly much "scripted" and the difference between a Schiller-keynote or a Jobs-keynote wasn't that dramatic after all
(I was expecting a much bigger difference. I guess the difference are more obvious when Schiller just comes on stage for a few minutes during a keynote held by Jobs)

MattInOz

Jan 6, 2009, 05:18 PM

I agree.

I wouldn't be surprised if they update the Mac Mini in the next few days/weeks. They are aware of the Mac Mini - its out-dated and over priced for current times. Also, by launching it at another event (other than Macworld) it would make sense for Apple re-iterating that 'Macworld is not needed'.

Patience :D

Last year Steve took the stage Late January and commented they had released new stuff every week so far that year.

MacWorld this was the first tuesday.
So what's the bet we see a set of rolling tuesday updates and refreshes with a town hall the following week to launch Snowy and "one more thing".

So
13th Mini with small Cinema Display
20th MacPro with big Cinema Displays
27th iMac
3rd Feb Town Hall

milo

Jan 6, 2009, 05:21 PM

One of the reasons why Apple wants to move away from these conferences, is this kind of crap from us rumour-hunters.

Except that Apple's non-conference events have just as many leaks and rumors.

Weeks building up to the MacWorld or WWDC Keynote are always full of rumours what to expect, and I think I am not far off when I say about 50% of the rumours actually come true.

Describes the typical apple event just as well.

alabanco

Jan 6, 2009, 05:23 PM

This keynote video has two major things to point our and scream about.

1) No hardware that lots of people have been waited for. No iMac, no Mini, no Pro. Oh yes 17 inch MacBook Pro is a really good excuse. sure (said with irony).:(

2) Shiller is absolutely not good at presenting things. He tries to copy Steeve but cmon couldn't he try to at least make his speech creative a bit ? My personal feeling is that I see Apple's Balmer. Just listen Balmer - Shiller. Their names and bodies and manners are the same. Am I right a bit ?

Yes. those people were right who said that will be a new era with a slight modification - Its the end of the era. God, please no Shiller anymore. Please let it be Jony Ive to present things. HE has the passion.

:apple::( "Sorry Folks two more ... years of winter" (Groundhog's Day)

wjdennen

Jan 6, 2009, 05:25 PM

where is the image stabilization in video of iMovie '09... did I miss it?

timerollson

Jan 6, 2009, 05:25 PM

LOL.

I'm really surprised people thought an iPhone Nano was being announced today.

MacsRgr8

Jan 6, 2009, 05:26 PM

Except that Apple's non-conference events have just as many leaks and rumors.

The problem is not the leaking.... it is the fact that everyone expects all the rumoured to be launched at these events!
And when they are not launched, or at least announced, people get all frustrated.

iParis

Jan 6, 2009, 05:28 PM

I think seeing this would make me even more upset!
UGH. I don't even own a Mac and this makes me mad. Well, I would have soon if they upgraded the Mac mini...

MacsRgr8

Jan 6, 2009, 05:31 PM

If the Mac mini would have gotten the a 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo, 2 GB 1066 MHz RAM, nVidia 9400 M, 250 GB HD... but same enclosure... do you think Phil (or Steve) should have talked about it?
No. It is isn't a machine to demonstrate. It is just an update...
IMHO, if the 17 MBP didn't get the new fixed battery, it might not have been mentioned either!

Of course, I want to see the new Mac mini, and maybe even a new iMac, but I can understand that this keynote speech is not the time and place.
Again, a timely update, and maybe press release for both products will come.
Same goes for iPhone nano.

DELLsFan

Jan 6, 2009, 05:32 PM

I am SO glad I didn't fork over the cash to fly across the country and attend this craptabulous Macworld Expo.

I am very disappointed that Apple didn't throw bigger bones toward the community that has been there for them LONG BEFORE anyone ever heard of trade shows. Since this is the last Expo for them, I expected much more from the keynote than THAT! :mad:

Wuckyboy

Jan 6, 2009, 05:32 PM

I have been holding off for so long from getting an i-mac, and now that they have not been updated to quad core should I still hold off???????????? this macworld sucked bad... :mad:

aristotle

Jan 6, 2009, 05:33 PM

What is up with Phil's face? He has 3 big warts on the left side of his face. It reminds me of the three dots in the Terminator TV series.
:eek:
Maybe Phil is a terminator robot?
:p

nfl46

Jan 6, 2009, 05:34 PM

So, I'm curious as to what those Apple posters said then. A big picture of iWorks or something! LOL! They shouldn't have even covered them up, seriously!

vansouza

Jan 6, 2009, 05:34 PM

I BELIEVE!!!...

there will be a Mac Mini update within the next 2 or 3 years.
Minimum!

God have mercy on us all, but I fear you are correct. What a yawn...

Wuckyboy

Jan 6, 2009, 05:35 PM

it reminds me of the 3 lame aspects of this macworld keynote...

iSlicer

Jan 6, 2009, 05:35 PM

I cannot believe that these forums have degenerated as far as they have. The majority of you are crying that "rumors" did not come true and your making fun of Phil and his skills as a presenter. Seriously guys, grow up. Now that Macworld is dead, Apple can toss new hardware and software at us in their own time and avoid whingeing bastards.

I used to think that Mac users were a little more creative, but watching you 12 year old boys throw around terms like "crapworld" has persuaded me to think otherwise. It's clear to me now, that if you don't want to be disappointed, stay away from threads like this and users like you (most of you).

MacsRgr8

Jan 6, 2009, 05:35 PM

I have been holding off for so long from getting an i-mac, and now that they have not been updated to quad core should I still hold off???????????? this macworld sucked bad... :mad:

Case in point.

Apple doesn't want you to wait until another Steve (or Phil-) note before getting a Mac!!!
The normal hardware updates will happen silently.... if something really new and / or cool is to be announced it will get its own attention. Press events.. whatever.

the vj

Jan 6, 2009, 05:36 PM

milo

Jan 6, 2009, 05:39 PM

The problem is not the leaking.... it is the fact that everyone expects all the rumoured to be launched at these events!
And when they are not launched, or at least announced, people get all frustrated.

And the reason people get so pissed is because apple lets so many months pass in-between updates. If they didn't let the systems get so out of date, people wouldn't be so hyped about updates.

If the Mac mini would have gotten the a 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo, 2 GB 1066 MHz RAM, nVidia 9400 M, 250 GB HD... but same enclosure... do you think Phil (or Steve) should have talked about it?
No. It is isn't a machine to demonstrate. It is just an update...

And if that were the case they could have just put out a press release today and not mention it at the actual keynote. But instead they didn't update at all.

How many years has it been since a mini update? How many more months might it be?

Wuckyboy

Jan 6, 2009, 05:42 PM

i guess that gives me some odd hope, which is better than none

dwd3885

Jan 6, 2009, 05:43 PM

And the reason people get so pissed is because apple lets so many months pass in-between updates. If they didn't let the systems get so out of date, people wouldn't be so hyped about updates.

And if that were the case they could have just put out a press release today and not mention it at the actual keynote. But instead they didn't update at all.

How many years has it been since a mini update? How many more months might it be?

I got pissed so I bought a Dell Quad with 20" widescreen monitor for $800. Got firewire 400 so I can still use my camcorder. Use Lightroom for photos which I did before and Premiere for videos. Still use Safari for web browsing and google apps for calendar, email, etc. The other side ain't so bad. And I don't feel frustrated as hell when they DON'T release a new product

milo

Jan 6, 2009, 05:43 PM

The majority of you are crying that "rumors" did not come true and your making fun of Phil and his skills as a presenter.

For the record, I'm complaining because the products announced were incredibly underwhelming regardless of rumors or expectations.

gugy

Jan 6, 2009, 05:45 PM

I hope new MacPro's and displays are going to be update soon.

Talk about long time......:mad:

chaosconan

Jan 6, 2009, 05:45 PM

No Al Gore. YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

And if I'm not mistaken the speaker did point it out that there is No iMac and No mac mini and No iphone nano. Why would he do that? Obviously he was prepared with such information and was told to tell everyone about it at the end of his speech. That's weird. What was that all about.

iWizzard

Jan 6, 2009, 05:47 PM

Dident you se him in the audience?

That was planty enought.

dpmusic

Jan 6, 2009, 05:47 PM

WTF???

Wheres the iMac updates???

Rocketman

Jan 6, 2009, 05:47 PM

The concert at the end was great.

I look forward to product specific announcements now at Cupertino HQ.

Rocketman

Srai-W

Jan 6, 2009, 05:49 PM

Totally amazing... I have been hanging out for the mini to be updated... I even dreamt about it last night!!! Wake up and get online to check... and it was true - no update to the mini. :eek: I just hope what many are saying is true - that it is updated over the next couple of weeks. :( I mean come on :apple: the iphone nano - do we need it? Nah, not really... but the Mini? It has been how long?!?!?!?!?! :mad:

Scottsdale

Jan 6, 2009, 05:50 PM

Info on Snow Leopard - like estimated release date.
Blu-Ray support in Snow Leopard?
Other new hardware - iPhone Nano, iMac, mac mini
Updated iWeb (more than they did), iDVD?

Really I'm mostly interested in what is going to happen regarding Blu-Ray support.

Didn't you hear, BluRay is a "Bag of Hurt!" according to Steve, himself. I doubt we will see it in 2009 from all I have seen and read. I guess maybe in a Mac Pro but not in a MacBook. I personally am happy without hard media. I think digital via iTunes is great. But, I do understand it is becoming the industry standard. I mean, if Dell, HP, and Sony can do it, why the hell can't Apple???

I was sad there was no Mac Mini or Media Server. I really was thinking about going that route, especially if it was a "media" type deal in between a mini or Apple TV, but some Mac capabilities too.

MacsRgr8

Jan 6, 2009, 05:52 PM

And the reason people get so pissed is because apple lets so many months pass in-between updates. If they didn't let the systems get so out of date, people wouldn't be so hyped about updates.

IEHO (In Everyone's Humble Opinion) the Mac mini should have been updated before. I agree. Dunno what's keeping them.
The iMac is doing fine if you ask me.
We all know the Mac Pro is waiting for the server CPU of the Nehalem.
MacBook Pro's are fine.

And if that were the case they could have just put out a press release today and not mention it at the actual keynote. But instead they didn't update at all.

How many years has it been since a mini update? How many more months might it be?

Again I understand the frustration of the old Mac mini. For one reason or another it didn't get the updates alongside the MacBooks as we all expected.
Since the 10.5.6 nVidia-Mac mini rumours, we are expecting it.
And, really, it will come. Just not today. MacWorld keynote speech is not the time and place to "show" an updated Mac mini.
It is there for software demo's, cool new product announcements etc. Showing the press how well Apple are doing etc.

vrillusions

Jan 6, 2009, 05:53 PM

I think (based on no facts) that apple is either going to have one of their special events really soon (late january, early february) or it's just going to be a silent update. No one is expecting any external changes to imac, just the internals. They can then have people buying up the new imacs and then a month or two later have a special event for the mac mini. Judging by this I'd say the mac mini still has a few months to show up. Still think (and hope) imac update is happening really soon.

MacsRgr8

Jan 6, 2009, 05:55 PM

I got pissed so I bought a Dell Quad with 20" widescreen monitor for $800. Got firewire 400 so I can still use my camcorder. Use Lightroom for photos which I did before and Premiere for videos. Still use Safari for web browsing and google apps for calendar, email, etc. The other side ain't so bad. And I don't feel frustrated as hell when they DON'T release a new product

LOL!
You base your well thought-out investments on.. what?

alabanco

Jan 6, 2009, 05:55 PM

Scottsdale

Jan 6, 2009, 05:56 PM

You know, from all that I have read about Apple being done with Trade Shows, and that they want to release on their own terms, I guess today makes sense.

I read that they are waiting for a quad core CPU for the iMac which will be released late this month. Makes sense we do not see the iMac. Maybe Apple will have an event next month at its HQ.

The Mac Pro. Waiting on Nehalem. Right?

The Mac Mini.... WTF? There is no reason to not have a new Mac Mini... Surely not a quad core CPU for that...

iPhone Nano - thank GOD! I would hate to have to develop different Apps for the two different iPhones.

Tablet, later in the year was consensus.

The MEDIA SERVER. Big disappointment here, as this was my vision for a new Mac for my Entertainment NEEDS!

I AM DISAPPOINTED. I even took the day off from work for that worthless keynote... what a JOKE!

thoshino

Jan 6, 2009, 05:56 PM

Pre-revision keynote script:
"This year it's all about the mac. And since you're already talking about new macs, I'm going to talk about something else"

Compare this keynote to the 2005 keynote when the Mini was first announced. Now THERE was a keynote all about the mac.

Schiller wasn't very convincing, but on the other hand he has some pretty big shoes to fill. However, the first engineer (the one with the round face, sits to the right of the screen) in the 17" MBP battery video was priceless. The way he delivers his lines, it's just like a POW video. "Apple is treating me well, and we are constantly working to create new and better batteries".

allmIne

Jan 6, 2009, 05:57 PM

iRebecca27

Jan 6, 2009, 05:57 PM

yeah we know its hard w/o him but lets not mention it, 'kay?

lol

yeah Phil's face looked like the fake smile Steve Edwards used on Good Day LA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwkJ0LvYbMY

chaosconan

Jan 6, 2009, 05:58 PM

I was hoping for am update to iTunes. :(
I have passed 148 applications. I need more pages or an iPod Finder application to launch those that I cannot see. :(

That's what I was hoping for!!!

MacsRgr8

Jan 6, 2009, 05:59 PM

For those who hold up to shame those who complaint.

Just think for a minute that people expected to buy their first iMac or Mini which will not be outdated in a month or two. They have their reasons to cry. If you are okay but some are not. Oh yes and some are not teenagers so mind your manners.

People buying their first Mac wouldn't have known about this MWSF, unless they are "informed" by so-called Apple-"insiders".

And you don't know if the Mac mini / iMac / Mac Pro will get updated next Tuesday.

dwd3885

Jan 6, 2009, 05:59 PM

LOL!
You base your well thought-out investments on.. what?

well i decided on this a long time ago though! And I still have a macbook pro unibody. But I decided to not give my hopes up whenever apple 'might' release something. builds great press, but never lives up to the hype.

Kwill

Jan 6, 2009, 05:59 PM

Wow. What day is this? I feel like Rip-Van-Winkle. Do I dare hit the play button again?

chaosconan

Jan 6, 2009, 06:00 PM

Dident you se him in the audience?

That was planty enought.

Wow, I must have missed it. He was actually there!!! :mad:
The GREEN MAN himself was there. :eek:

milo

Jan 6, 2009, 06:02 PM

And, really, it will come. Just not today.

I'd feel better if people weren't saying that six months ago...and a year ago...

ivladster

Jan 6, 2009, 06:02 PM

What the heck happened with all those rumors "Mac mini with support for dual displays, & iPhone nano? This really was crapworld 09"

You really think Apple would announce 6 new things in one day. I am sure very shortly there's gonna be a special event with Steve. Phill hasn't graduated the Presenter's school to announce anything new like iPhone nano or new Mini.

I wouldn't worry.

P.S. and snow leopard have to be announced by someone like Steve.

inkswamp

Jan 6, 2009, 06:03 PM

Did anyone else think Phil looked a little thinner than usual?

:rolleyes:

ivladster

Jan 6, 2009, 06:04 PM

I got pissed so I bought a Dell Quad with 20" widescreen monitor for $800. Got firewire 400 so I can still use my camcorder. Use Lightroom for photos which I did before and Premiere for videos. Still use Safari for web browsing and google apps for calendar, email, etc. The other side ain't so bad. And I don't feel frustrated as hell when they DON'T release a new product

LOL, are you serious?

WOW, what do you then when Microsoft doesn't even fix the products they have?

I feel bad for you. Don't waste money on stuff that will stop working in 8 months.

okrelayer

Jan 6, 2009, 06:06 PM

am i the only one thats having issues with this keynote? the stream seems very jittery, also when i resize it from the corner it crashes quicktime every single time.

I have the new 15inch macbook pro, and i am running on the gt9600. I just watched steves iphone keynote (like 5 min of it) and it seems way less jittery, but it still crashes when resizing. I opened an avi video of mine, and it resizes without issue. i will probably start another thread. but anyone experiancing this?

MacsRgr8

Jan 6, 2009, 06:06 PM

well i decided on this a long time ago though! And I still have a macbook pro unibody. But I decided to not give my hopes up whenever apple 'might' release something. builds great press, but never lives up to the hype.

Builds great press..?
When did Apple inform the press of a pre-announcement, aka RUMOUR?!?

The Mac mini will happen....! It will either:
a) get the MacBook Unibody specs (maybe nVidia has trouble deliveirng enough 9400 M's)
b) get a mobile Quad-Core Nehalem (we have to wait for this)
c) get one of the above with Media Server crap (we have to wait for either a) or b) )
d) get EOL. (maybe it should.... :rolleyes: )

Which one? When?
Well, NOT A MACWORLD OR WWDC.

It's easy. When can we expect updated hardware from Apple?
EVERY TUESDAY, EXCEPT KEYNOTE TUESDAYS! :apple:
Unless Apple wants to fiddle with us... :p

Eric S.

Jan 6, 2009, 06:06 PM

Again I understand the frustration of the old Mac mini. For one reason or another it didn't get the updates alongside the MacBooks as we all expected.
Since the 10.5.6 nVidia-Mac mini rumours, we are expecting it.
And, really, it will come. Just not today. MacWorld keynote speech is not the time and place to "show" an updated Mac mini.
It is there for software demo's, cool new product announcements etc. Showing the press how well Apple are doing etc.

It seems to me that this was the perfect place to announce a new mini. Really, are they going to have a separate event for that? Everyone's just going to say "ho hum, again." At least here they would have been bolstering the image of an updated product line. As for a "stealth" upgrade - why? What would be the point, when Apple could have at least gotten a little more positive publicity.

This makes me think there is no mini update in the works.

zoran

Jan 6, 2009, 06:06 PM

Is the keynote downloadable? Because the one on the site is very choppy and does not have a good flow in movement etc.

Buzz Bumble

Jan 6, 2009, 06:07 PM

No Mac Mini. No iMac. No Mac OS X 10.6. No Mac Pro. No ...

Unfortunately this is probably a preview of the future. With Apple pulling out of more and more shows, their release schedule is going to become a lot less predictable (which of course is part of the reason they are pulling out). :(

Hawkeye411

Jan 6, 2009, 06:08 PM

Enjoyed the show!! Great stuff Apple!!!

doctoree

Jan 6, 2009, 06:08 PM

Evan_11

Jan 6, 2009, 06:09 PM

MacWorld keynote speech is not the time and place to "show" an updated Mac mini.
It is there for software demo's, cool new product announcements etc. Showing the press how well Apple are doing etc.

The apologists continue making excuses. It's ok, you've drank the kool-aid and don't know any better.

Apple continues to snub anyone who doesn't want to spend over $1K on a desktop computer. It's idiotic but it's Apple's way. Hopefully their stock will start plunging and they'll get it.

MacsRgr8

Jan 6, 2009, 06:11 PM

I'd feel better if people weren't saying that six months ago...and a year ago...

You can only be referring to the Mac mini.
And yes, I understand it. It has been about 580 days since the last update, and of course that is far too long... :o
Maybe there is a problem in getting the essentially MacBook elements into it..? Maybe nVidia can't deliver enough for both MacBooks and Mac mini's, and therefor Apple choosing it all for the MacBooks, and nothing for the Mac mini.
Maybe Apple really is developing Media Server-ish software, which must be bundled with a new Mac mini, and simply isn;t ready yet.

Apple want to make money. Apple want to sell up-t-date products. There is something about the Mac mini. We just don't know.

We should know by now that MacWorlds and WWDC's are not for product updates.
We shouldn't be disappointed.

milo

Jan 6, 2009, 06:12 PM

If so many of you didn't build your hopes up upon baseless rumours (in particular, regarding the mini), rumours circulated primarily to intensify the enthusiasm you're helping to create, you wouldn't be disappointed when nothing happens.

Surely?

Surely not. I didn't build up my hopes at all, I had the lowest possible expectations but this keynote had the most disappointing new product of any I can remember.

~Shard~

Jan 6, 2009, 06:12 PM

Come on guy's, don't be so pesimistic! I'm sure in the next days they'll release

New 30inch Apple Cinema Display
New Macmini
New IMac with QuadCore
Snow Leopard
Iphone Nano
New MacPro
New Mouse
New Keyboard
Apple TV
...
NEW ANYTHING

That's no big deal for Apple.

Sarcasm noted, however I do think it is not unreasonable to see the above bolded products indeed updated in the next 30 days... As for a new mouse and keyboard, I don't see this as being very likely at all for a long time. The current keyboard is great, and Apple doesn't update their mouse offerings very often (rightly or wrongly) so I don't think it's fair to even have those on the list.

alabanco

Jan 6, 2009, 06:12 PM

all this situation at MW reminds me Al Pachino's character John Milton from Devil's Advocate.

May I cite ?

Look but don't touch. Touch, but don't taste. Taste, don't swallow. Ahaha. And while you're jumpin' from one foot to the next, what is he doing? He's laughin' His sick, ......! He's a sadist! He's an absentee landlord!

pohl

Jan 6, 2009, 06:13 PM

I am very disappointed that Apple didn't throw bigger bones toward the community that has been there for them LONG BEFORE anyone ever heard of trade shows. Since this is the last Expo for them, I expected much more from the keynote than THAT! :mad:

Your expectations got the best of you, and you're mad at them!? :rolleyes:

MacsRgr8

Jan 6, 2009, 06:14 PM

The apologists continue making excuses. It's ok, you've drank the kool-aid and don't know any better.

Apple continues to snub anyone who doesn't want to spend over $1K on a desktop computer. It's idiotic but it's Apple's way. Hopefully their stock will start plunging and they'll get it.

Excuses...
I don't now any better.

You are annoying.

I have tried to explain that you shouldn't have expected what you have hoped for.
How may times haven't the rumours sites disappointed you?

Wes1731

Jan 6, 2009, 06:15 PM

I don't think there will be any new quad core machines for at least a month or two, since Intel only released the new mobile quad core processors at the end of last month. Companies like Apple need time to design their computers for this.

milo

Jan 6, 2009, 06:16 PM

You really think Apple would announce 6 new things in one day.

I really think they would announce more than one hardware announcement and two predictable and not particularly interesting software announcements in one day. Because they have done more than that at virtually every keynote since Jobs return.

~Shard~

Jan 6, 2009, 06:16 PM

Your expectations got the best of you, and you're mad at them!? :rolleyes:

Exactly. If anything, he should have expected less from this keynote knowing full well that Apple wants to bow out of trade shows. Since Apple wants to de-emphasize trade shows, why would they then turn around and blow everyone out of the water with this one?

Eric S.

Jan 6, 2009, 06:18 PM

We should know by now that MacWorlds and WWDC's are not for product updates.
We shouldn't be disappointed.

You don't consider the 17" MBP to be a product update? Not to mention iWork '09 and iLife '09?

MacsRgr8

Jan 6, 2009, 06:18 PM

Exactly. If anything, he should have expected less from this keynote knowing full well that Apple wants to bow out of trade shows. Since Apple wants to de-emphasize trade shows, why would they then turn around and blow everyone out of the water with this one?

At least someone thinking straight...

karleaglemac

Jan 6, 2009, 06:19 PM

That's it?

I wish the video showed how many people walked out on this Keynote.

Mal67

Jan 6, 2009, 06:20 PM

Wow I was so looking forward to seeing the mini upgraded this is just so disappointing. :( With the new vid card in the al macbook and a host of pc notebooks using newer intel 4500 solutions does this mean that at the very least they'll drop the price of the current mini to net book prices. Doubt it though it's probably good for another couple of years yet.:eek:

~Shard~

Jan 6, 2009, 06:21 PM

At least someone straight...

And at least someone who appreciates said straightness - thanks. ;) :cool:

milo

Jan 6, 2009, 06:22 PM

No Mac Mini. No iMac. No Mac OS X 10.6. No Mac Pro. No ...

To be fair Apple has already said that 10.6 will be this summer. Absolutely no reason to expect it today.

MacsRgr8

Jan 6, 2009, 06:22 PM

You don't consider the 17" MBP to be a product update?

Nope, as I said before, if it didn't get a new type of battery, it wouldn't have been worth mentioning!

It is only worth time at a keynote speech if there is something MORE to announce than a simple update!!
Mac mini with better CPU, grfx, HD.. is NOT anything new. It simply is an upgrade!!
Last year the Mac Pro' 08 with 1600 MHz FSB, 8-Cores, GeForce 8800 GT card etc. was not announced @ MWSF, but silently upgraded one week before!
Please, people, try to understand!

If something new like a new form factor, or new hardware feature is there then it gets time on stage.

chaosconan

Jan 6, 2009, 06:22 PM

That keynote speaker needs to go on a diet... :D
I already miss Steve :rolleyes:

MacsRgr8

Jan 6, 2009, 06:23 PM

And at least someone who appreciates said straightness - thanks. ;) :cool:

LOL.. I meant thinking straight.

~Shard~

Jan 6, 2009, 06:24 PM

To be fair Apple has already said that 10.6 will be this summer. Absolutely no reason to expect it today.

Agreed. As for the iMac and Mac mini product lines, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see updates in the next few weeks. Just because updates weren't announced today doesn't mean we won't be seeing updates for another 6 months.

milo

Jan 6, 2009, 06:29 PM

Agreed. As for the iMac and Mac mini product lines, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see updates in the next few weeks. Just because updates weren't announced today doesn't mean we won't be seeing updates for another 6 months.

But on the other hand, it COULD be another six months for all we know. That's what makes it so frustrating, particularly given Apple's poor track record for timely updates.

~Shard~

Jan 6, 2009, 06:30 PM

LOL.. I meant thinking straight.

I know what you meant, it's all good my friend. ;) :D

stevesidea

Jan 6, 2009, 06:30 PM

Some nice updates to the suite. I don't get the emphasis on numbers, etc. That stuff should just all be online a la Google Docs.

And... Ok, this was kinda creepy, but also kinda funny.
http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/headlines/apple-founder-to-lose-adams-apple/

01Shambrook

Jan 6, 2009, 06:31 PM

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Apple should be getting scared now. Instead of giving the people what they REALLY WANTED, such as imac, mac mini, cheaper macs, they did the things that they thought we might just like and find interesting, but not desperate to get our hands on. How about going back to revolutionary, instead of being evolutionary?

MasterNile

Jan 6, 2009, 06:32 PM

People buying their first Mac wouldn't have known about this MWSF, unless they are "informed" by so-called Apple-"insiders".

And you don't know if the Mac mini / iMac / Mac Pro will get updated next Tuesday.

Um...what? You do know that a decent amount of the people the come to MR don't have a Mac and are waiting for updates to certain product lines, especially the Mac Mini, one person in particular that comes to mind is iParis, who has nearly 1400 posts here and certainly knew about MWSF.

PCMA

Jan 6, 2009, 06:32 PM

When I try to watch the 2009 MWSF Keynote on my iPhone I get the October 2008 notebook announcement instead. :(

Also... the podcast of the keynote isn't available yet.

~Shard~

Jan 6, 2009, 06:32 PM

But on the other hand, it COULD be another six months for all we know. That's what makes it so frustrating, particularly given Apple's poor track record for timely updates.

True, it's anyone's guess, but I'd put money on sooner rather than later - just my opinion of course - and yes, sometimes frustrating regardless. ;)

nemaslov

Jan 6, 2009, 06:32 PM

I totally understand why today's roll out was not so exciting. But the software updates are very cool and the DRM free iTunes too, but rolling out really great products in the worst economic time in fifty years would be a bad idea. Even for Apple.

Yes the die hards here are drooling for the latest and greatest but most people out in the civilian world are cutting back big time. They are holding on to their laptops and desk tops for another year. They don't need to replace a perfectly good iPod or iPhone with something slightly cooler, faster or hipper at the moment.

There is plenty of time for Apple to roll out new gadgets but January 2009 is not the right time.

kjs862

Jan 6, 2009, 06:33 PM

I really thought Phil was a better at giving speeches than this. He seemed very nervous today.

riversky

Jan 6, 2009, 06:35 PM

I think we will see the updated mini and iMacs at the end of January when iLife 09 ships.

They will ship with it installed. No case updates just internal hardware upgrades. This makes sense to me because if they changed the look etc they would have been revealed today.

Just my thoughts.

Rivix

Jan 6, 2009, 06:36 PM

iLife 09 is not worth $79.

MacsRgr8

Jan 6, 2009, 06:36 PM

Um...what? You do know that a decent amount of the people the come to MR don't have a Mac and are waiting for updates to certain product lines, especially the Mac Mini, one person in particular that comes to mind is iParis, who has nearly 1400 posts here and certainly knew about MWSF.

Come on... sure, there are people who consult rumour sites for their purchases, but there were 9.7 million Macs sold last fiscal year, and not 1% percent of those buyers would have let themselves be advised by us...

milo

Jan 6, 2009, 06:36 PM

rolling out really great products in the worst economic time in fifty years would be a bad idea.

Nobody is asking for "new gadgets". For the most part we just want machines like the mini brought up to current specs. Really great would be nice but considering the state of the mini we'd probably settle for "sucks less".

MattInOz

Jan 6, 2009, 06:39 PM

You can only be referring to the Mac mini.
And yes, I understand it. It has been about 580 days since the last update, and of course that is far too long... :o
Maybe there is a problem in getting the essentially MacBook elements into it..? Maybe nVidia can't deliver enough for both MacBooks and Mac mini's, and therefor Apple choosing it all for the MacBooks, and nothing for the Mac mini.
Maybe Apple really is developing Media Server-ish software, which must be bundled with a new Mac mini, and simply isn;t ready yet.

Apple want to make money. Apple want to sell up-t-date products. There is something about the Mac mini. We just don't know.

We should know by now that MacWorlds and WWDC's are not for product updates.
We shouldn't be disappointed.

Maybe Apple started shipping New Minis to Key Partners when MacColo released the State of Mini blog and still hasn't caught up enough with demand to put stock on shelves.

The thing with the mini is they can't pre-annouce it, it's a stock item in so many places. All the previous updates appeared in the wild before launch, to avoid the need to return old inventory.

nemaslov

Jan 6, 2009, 06:41 PM

..And what about the specially designed Mac OS compatible Ironman suit for Steve Jobs. They'll buff him up!! :D

MacsRgr8

Jan 6, 2009, 06:42 PM

The thing with the mini is they can't pre-annouce it, it's a stock item in so many places. All the previous updates appeared in the wild before launch, to avoid the need to return old inventory.

Exactly.
The Mac mini will probably get silently updated. And hopefully within the next two weeks. Similar specs to the MacBook Unibody.

nemaslov

Jan 6, 2009, 06:43 PM

iLife 09 is not worth $79.

If a damn video game is $59. iLife is certainly worth $79!!!

holden15

Jan 6, 2009, 06:44 PM

I've been following the Mac community since before the 2.5GHz G5 came out. Have been an avid Mac fan since. Honestly, I know my way around the hardware & software of a Mac.

Not once have I got one of these freaking streams to display!!

Is there some readme I'm missing out on? Is it sheer numbers stressing the servers?

F

I always had that same problem, until I got a new Router.

iParis

Jan 6, 2009, 06:45 PM

iLife 09 is not worth $79.

I'm watching the stream right now and have only gotten to the end of iPhoto '09 and some of the new features seem really cool.

NeedMoreCowBell

Jan 6, 2009, 06:45 PM

I now understand why Jobs bowed out. Yawn Fest 2009. No update to mini. :( I can already tell this will be a yawner of a year. I had so many expectations. So Sad. Maybe they surprise us later this year. BUT no Mac Mini,,,,, oh wait I said that. I'm still upset about it though.:(:(:(

Desfolio

Jan 6, 2009, 06:47 PM

Way to go out with a bang, Apple. :mad:

Eric S.

Jan 6, 2009, 06:48 PM

Nope, as I said before, if it didn't get a new type of battery, it wouldn't have been worth mentioning!

It is only worth time at a keynote speech if there is something MORE to announce than a simple update!!
Mac mini with better CPU, grfx, HD.. is NOT anything new. It simply is an upgrade!!
Last year the Mac Pro' 08 with 1600 MHz FSB, 8-Cores, GeForce 8800 GT card etc. was not announced @ MWSF, but silently upgraded one week before!
Please, people, try to understand!

If something new like a new form factor, or new hardware feature is there then it gets time on stage.

Sorry, but your reasoning makes no sense to me. I hardly think that an internal battery, a la MB Air, makes the 17" MBP (whose other specs are similar to the already selling 15" version) keynote-worthy, in contrast to a completely revamped mini which legions of fans have been waiting for for ages. One gets the feeling that Apple is trying to tick off its long-time loyal customers, yet again.

alexbates

Jan 6, 2009, 06:49 PM

When I try to watch the 2009 MWSF Keynote on my iPhone I get the October 2008 notebook announcement instead. :(

Also... the podcast of the keynote isn't available yet.

Same, except I'm on my iPod. I don't have my Mac with me.

Is this happening to anyone else watching on your computer, or is it just on iPhones and iPod Touches?

GregD

Jan 6, 2009, 06:53 PM

No disrespect to Phil who I think did an excellent job filling Steves shoes.. but that has to be the most boring keynote/list of product announcements ever.

iLife, iWork and a new macbook pro (with the amaaazing battery)... yeah great..

I think any Mac fan who had signed up to go to Macworld, would be disappointed with that keynote as an intro... compared to some of the ones of the past few years. Not to mention it's the last it should have gone out with a bang not a whimper!

Im sure im repeating what other people have probably said in this thread but yeah what about the mac mini, iMac, iPhone nano, cinema displays... anything?!

No revolutionary new products in sight... is it all down hill now? :confused:

aznkid25

Jan 6, 2009, 06:53 PM

Same, except I'm on my iPod. I don't have my Mac with me.

Is this happening to anyone else watching on your computer, or is it just on iPhones and iPod Touches?

same with me on my ipod touch. I would give it a couple more hours, maybe 2 or 3 hours.

MagicWok

Jan 6, 2009, 06:55 PM

(Insert generic complaint about lack of effort from Apple at MW here)

I'm pretty dissapointed with no iPhone capacity increase to kick-off '09 myself. Meh, getting used to it.

JustiNYCity

Jan 6, 2009, 07:02 PM

I was somewhat disappointed today, but I'm trying to stay optimistic about an iMac update within the next couple of weeks... :cool:

I just received a refund on my unopened 3.02 GHz iMac I got for Christmas last week... I'm kicking myself in the butt now.. guess I should just have patience. It'll be worth the wait right? :confused:

CrackedButter

Jan 6, 2009, 07:04 PM

bryan1884

Jan 6, 2009, 07:04 PM

who the hell would ever want to go through that again

iasky

Jan 6, 2009, 07:07 PM

Apple believes Blu-Ray is dead (or going to be dead soon), they are pushing streaming content over AppleTv.

Hard to believe. I can really see no alternative to archiving all my HD video can you?

Thanks for the Obama petition link --- I'm glad there are at least a few sane people worried about their pie!

alabanco

Jan 6, 2009, 07:08 PM

Its going to be a Doomsday in 2012 so it makes only three years to finally get iMac or new Mini and play with it. From now it will be even less than 3 years. :rolleyes:

Oh yes. It is sad that people won't be able to check 5 years (am I right 5 years were reported ?) life of new batteries in new MacBook Pro 17.

happydude

Jan 6, 2009, 07:11 PM

no mini = biggest disappointment of the year (hey, the year is only 6 days old, but we were really hoping for one for our entertainment hub). are they waiting on desktop announcements until blue ray support?:rolleyes:

Eric S.

Jan 6, 2009, 07:19 PM

For those complaining about Snow Leopard, surely it will be released at WWDC because its mainly a release which is of most interest to developers?

Why is it of most interest to developers? Any user would want it if it offers a significant performance gain.

Unless it had some new whizz bang feature I wouldn't want to see it at Macworld.

I presume you'd want to see it whenever it was ready.

Alchematron

Jan 6, 2009, 07:20 PM

Wheres the 10 inch Air???

Is it 2009 yet??? :eek:

n8236

Jan 6, 2009, 07:23 PM

Super Duper

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I'm surprised Apple's stock price didn't tumble further given the sheer crap of this MacWorld.

Worst Macworld ever, epic fail.

zap2

Jan 6, 2009, 07:25 PM

Ooo...rough day...I was expecting great things, things that they were no rumors about. Or a netbook. I would have bet 1000 bucks on a new Mac Mini

Hopefully late Feb, but honestly I may just live with my current Mini(maybe some new RAM) for a while

themoonisdown09

Jan 6, 2009, 07:28 PM

I just finished watching it and I actually enjoyed it. Yeah, it wasn't releasing ground-breaking products, but the additions to iLife were enough for me.

darthraige

Jan 6, 2009, 07:40 PM

I don't get it, I just maxed out the new 17 inch MacBook Pro to $5,200... Who is gonna pay that money for it only to last 5 years or just 1,000 charges? Makes no sense. Also, I wish one of the USB ports was on the other side. Suppose I wanted to use a wired mouse with a short cord? Wouldn't be able to reach it around the other side. Still upset they wouldn't put FW400 back on.

drakeshipway

Jan 6, 2009, 07:46 PM

Way to go out with a bang, Apple. :mad:
Agreed. Although I was pleased with what we got.

Usually during an Apple keynote I get a little tingle on the inside..
And this time, I simply didn't.

bmelichar

Jan 6, 2009, 07:47 PM

With Steve not showing up and the announcement this is the last Macworld event maybe this is Mac's way of down playing the significance of the event as a venue to bring out new items. If apple actually brought out new products that would go against every reason they would have to forgo participating in future events. This may also play into the reasoning for just demonstrating new software. I do not really count the new 17" Mac Book Pro since there really wasn't anything new introduced as a result of the recent 13" and 15" Mac Books.

Things are going to change...no longer with Macworld be used to introduce new Apple technology, but rather focus on third party hardware, software, and applications.

Bubba Satori

Jan 6, 2009, 07:49 PM

Quillz

Jan 6, 2009, 07:53 PM

I suspect Apple is keeping alot of the Snow Leopard features secret...

we know how the guys are at Redmond. lol
Yes, we know that the guys in Redmond are actually working on Windows 7 and already have it in beta form, whereas the guys in Cupertino are talking about it but haven't really shown much to prove it exists yet.

Quillz

Jan 6, 2009, 07:54 PM

Shockingly bad. Words fail me. Worst Macworld in years and that's saying a lot with the recent stinkers. They must be getting out of the computer biz in line with changing their name from Apple Computer. This is a disaster. $20 billion in the bank and incredible profits and this is the best they can do ? Epic fail. :mad:
Why have $20 billion in the bank when you could have $21 billion in the bank? Why stop at record profits when you could have record-breaking record profits?

dwd3885

Jan 6, 2009, 07:56 PM

LOL, are you serious?

WOW, what do you then when Microsoft doesn't even fix the products they have?

I feel bad for you. Don't waste money on stuff that will stop working in 8 months.

actually have had it for a year and no problems...you know, sometimes the mac guys think microsoft/dell really stink, but they don't really.

RyanR.

Jan 6, 2009, 07:57 PM

By chance did or should I say do any of you find Tony Bennett's Song choice interesting.

"The Best is Yet to come...", People this must ba a code... or at least I hope.:rolleyes:

Maybe we will see our minis updated and the Pros to and how bought that tablet I've been hearing about for 10 years or so it seems.

jhero

Jan 6, 2009, 07:58 PM

nitramwin

Jan 6, 2009, 08:00 PM

I BELIEVE!!!...

there will be a Mac Mini update within the next 2 or 3 years.
Minimum!

yeah - i HOPE that they will introduce them with either ilife'09's release or that of 10.6........:confused::confused::confused:

i want the imac now!!

alexbates

Jan 6, 2009, 08:01 PM

For those complaining about Snow Leopard, surely it will be released at WWDC because its mainly a release which is of most interest to developers? Unless it had some new whizz bang feature I wouldn't want to see it at Macworld.

I am hoping it will be released some time before then. Apple mentioned that it would be about in the summer, so thats what I'm hoping for.

I bet the Mac Mini will have an update any time now. I'm sure that by March, Apple will have an entirely new model for about $499. The iPhone nano will probably be out the same time as a remodel of the current model in about 8 months. Or let's think about it this way- whenever we start to see some real convincing spyshots or leaks.

Quillz

Jan 6, 2009, 08:03 PM

This was almost as yawning as the hifi release ...

I thought he said he was gonna talk about the mac? This should have been called macsoftwareworld

Perhaps they'll have a special event in February. Here's to hoping
He did focus on the Mac... Apple seems to define "Mac" as anything related to Mac hardware or Mac software. None of the software introduced today runs on anything other than a Mac, at least legally and technically. Hence, it was focused on Macs.

nitramwin

Jan 6, 2009, 08:07 PM

is the video quality horrible?!?!?!

it's like thumbnail size and when i full screen it it's so pixely i cant barely make anything out

:mad::apple::mad:

u could fill an ipod's display with the coverage but nothing bigger :(
i think it might have to do with the iso setting on the video cameras ... (does that sound right?)

CaryMacGuy

Jan 6, 2009, 08:10 PM

Great keynote...I think that Phil captured my attention as much as Steve Jobs.

Although we didn't get the new Mac Mini...they did introduce some really cool things.

jayducharme

Jan 6, 2009, 08:10 PM

Phil is now even thinner.

I was really hoping he was going to enter the stage by jumping from a great height with an iPhone Nano.

The best part of the event for me was Tony Bennett. I wish I'll age so well....

Quillz

Jan 6, 2009, 08:11 PM

I was really hoping he was going to enter the stage by jumping from a great height with an iPhone Nano.

The best part of the event for me was Tony Bennett. I wish I'll age so well....
Because we all know that Tony Bennett has never once had plastic surgery or any kind of facial work.

Don't worry, you'll probably age just fine.

DELLsFan

Jan 6, 2009, 08:14 PM

boyneverstop

Jan 6, 2009, 08:18 PM

No Snow Leopard in keynotes...so disappointed!!

Winni

Jan 6, 2009, 08:18 PM

I'm watching the keynote stream while I'm typing this and I think that Phil is doing a great job. I find him more authentic and natural than Steve Jobs. I like that Phil comes across as just a normal person and a guy I can imagine drinking a beer with.

Of course, for a self-proclaimed "hardware company", the lack of new hardware is disappointing. But the new versions of iPhoto and iMovie look quite nice. I can't wait for Aperture 3 to come out with that face detection stuff. ;-)

jfgrcar

Jan 6, 2009, 08:30 PM

Is Apple still a computer company? Most of their desktop offerings are a year old!

queshy

Jan 6, 2009, 08:32 PM

I don't even think i Can watch the whole thing. zzzzz

stubeeef

Jan 6, 2009, 08:35 PM

Why did Apple even bother?

Guess it is the HP media server for me! No mini, ugh, no server, ugh, nothing for the ole stu-miester this time around.

I guess it's.....

NEW MINI'S ON TUESDAY!!!!

Could they be planning something for CES?

cms2

Jan 6, 2009, 08:37 PM

next tuesday apple will probably have a special event for the landmark stuff with steve.. in a smaller less populated area

Are we concerned about some sort of radioactive fallout? :D

On the other hand I think there will be a special desktop event, similar to the notebook event of a few months ago. Isn't that the reason Apple gave for pulling out of Macworld? To be more in control of their media events when releasing new products? It makes sense.

Prof.

Jan 6, 2009, 08:41 PM

I just finished watching the keynote. I must say, it was very boring. And wtf was with Tony Bennett? Do ppl still listen to him? Apple is hip and cool. Tony Bennett is... old and wrinkly.

mdntcallr

Jan 6, 2009, 08:42 PM

spyd4r

Jan 6, 2009, 08:45 PM

No wonder why Steve didn't bother to show up.

powers74

Jan 6, 2009, 08:51 PM

iasky

Jan 6, 2009, 09:07 PM

I'm sure Apple will release all their new goodies in good time. Last year they released the MacPros a week before and the MacBook Pros a month or so later. From this forum it appears that the Mac mini would be the best bet for quick release in this economy.

:apple: Looking forward to a Tuesday surprise real soon!

NT1440

Jan 6, 2009, 09:10 PM

Im guessing I'm one of few that actually enjoyed the most of the keynote?

The software still blows me away with how tightly apple is making everything integrate together. The iwork and ilife look fantastic, glad im going to get one free and one cheap in the hopefully not so distant future;)

iasky

Jan 6, 2009, 09:18 PM

wow Apple is seriously dropping the ball

1- No new iMac
2- No new Mac Mini
3- No new Apple TV
4- No new Mac Pro
5- No new line - Mid Range Power Mac mid sized Tower
6- No Blu-Ray
7- No new LCD monitors

Apple is seriously dragging its feet on things and it is getting very annoying.

also, what are they thinking with no exchangable batteries???? on MBP 17"?

they are deluded if they think it is what consumers want. alot of us want ability to change the battery out, especially if traveling

Give em a break! Have you ever done engineering research? Things take time. Stuff happens. Ideas don't always pan out. Stuff happens. It's in their best interest to give us a product we want in a timely manner that works like its supposed to for a long time. That's not as easy as Steve Jobs and Apple make it look. Good riddance to MacWorld expectations!
Now every Tuesday could be an Apple Tuesday :)

jaw04005

Jan 6, 2009, 09:19 PM

Just for comparison, this keynote was right on par with the pre-iPhone Steve Jobs' keynotes.

For example ...

In 2008, Apple TV Take 2 update, MacBook Air, new iPhone firmware and Time Capsule

In 2007, iPhone announcement (shipped June), Apple TV announcement (shipped March), AirPort Extreme (802.11n, non-gigabit)

In 2006, iLife '06, iWork '06, MacBook Pro and iMac — that's it.
In 2005, iLife '05, iWork '05, iPod shuffle and the Mac mini — that's it.
In 2004, iLife '04, iWork '04, iPod mini, Final Cut Express — that's it.

Expectations for these events have just gotten out of control.

NT1440

Jan 6, 2009, 09:20 PM