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Frohickey
Mar 4, 2004, 02:10 PM
Dear DNC and Candidates,
Thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak my mind. I lost my job this past year. When Clinton was president, I worked in a prosperous enterprise.
But in this last year, we had to close our operations. Far worse, I lost two of my sons in Bush's evil war in Iraq. They gave their lives for their country, and for what?
My pain of losing my sons is indescribable. While it is trivial next to the loss of my sons, I regret to say that I also lost my homes. I simply had nothing left.
I am a senior citizen with various medical problems. I'm not in a position where I can begin a new career. I was reduced to the point where I was homeless, all because of President Bush. And when the authorities found me, did they have any compassion for my misfortune and ailments? No, I was arrested.
If I had any money left, I would donate it to the Democratic party. If Al Gore had been elected in 2000, I guarantee you, I would still have a job, a home, and most importantly, my sons!
Regards, Saddam Hussein
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:D
Dont Hurt Me
Mar 4, 2004, 02:15 PM
Dear DNC and Candidates,
Thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak my mind. I lost my job this past year. When Clinton was president, I worked in a prosperous enterprise.
But in this last year, we had to close our operations. Far worse, I lost two of my sons in Bush's evil war in Iraq. They gave their lives for their country, and for what?
My pain of losing my sons is indescribable. While it is trivial next to the loss of my sons, I regret to say that I also lost my homes. I simply had nothing left.
I am a senior citizen with various medical problems. I'm not in a position where I can begin a new career. I was reduced to the point where I was homeless, all because of President Bush. And when the authorities found me, did they have any compassion for my misfortune and ailments? No, I was arrested.
If I had any money left, I would donate it to the Democratic party. If Al Gore had been elected in 2000, I guarantee you, I would still have a job, a home, and most importantly, my sons!
Regards, Saddam Hussein
Very funny but the sad part is many Americans have lost sons for this thug, im glad we got Saddam but the price was way to high in Dollars and American Lives. George did a great job at eliminating the surplus we had and in exporting our jobs overseas. way to go George now all we need is a spinfomercial to tell us how we love it and its good for us.
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:D
IJ Reilly
Mar 4, 2004, 02:24 PM
Move over, Willie Horton.
wwworry
Mar 4, 2004, 02:31 PM
what idiot made this up? This just shows the low level of republican discourse - everything from faking pictures of Kerry and Fonda, inventing "scandalous" fake affairs to parading on the backs of the dead from the WTC.
They lie about practically everything - who made the sign on the aircraft carrier, a fake photo-op turkey, WMDs and terrorist links to Iraq, who the tax cuts mainly go to and how many jobs will be created with those tax cuts. THey even go so far as to rewrite scientific findings to fit their own agenda.
They cover up everything - who illegally outed CIA agent Plame, who was in on the energy policy meetings, who was responsible for the illegal break in to DNC computers. They even refuse to cooperate with the independant 9/11 panel. Then they have the gall to act like they "own" 9/11
Thanks Bush for destroying social security to give your rich friends a tax break.
Thanks Bush for pushing through a medicare measure so that it's illegal for states to bargain with drug companies for better prices and illegal to go somewhere else for better prices. Is this a drug company gift or what?
Thanks Bush for saddling us with the largest deficits ever that will push up interest rates and burden our children for years to come.
Thanks Bush for going backwards on clean air and clean water and calling that "healthy". Healthy for your rich contributers fat wallets, more like.
Then they trot out this ************ fake letter and act all smug about it. What a bunch of lying jerks.
Dont Hurt Me
Mar 4, 2004, 02:42 PM
Worry has pretty much said it all. The Bush & his rich buddies have a lot of money for lots of adds to spin,distort and produce commercials to make us feel good anyways. will it work? I dont think so.
mactastic
Mar 4, 2004, 03:31 PM
I'm sure Slobo has a similar letter addressed to the RNC making the same points. 'Cause if Dole had been president, Slobo would still be in power you know. That evil, evil man would still be torturing and opressing his people if Republicans had had their way.
numediaman
Mar 4, 2004, 03:32 PM
what idiot made this up?
Actually, I think this is original writing by Frohickey -- not some RNC stuff.
I think the Repubs here are getting a little sensitive about all the Bush-bashing going on. I think it is a little insensitive of people to be bashing the president for destroying the economy, starting illegal wars and trying to insert hate language into the Constitution -- after all, he's doing the best he can.
;)
2jaded2care
Mar 4, 2004, 05:07 PM
It's possible there *may* have been some other factors at work regarding the "destroyed" economy... Just maybe.
Frohickey
Mar 4, 2004, 05:57 PM
Thanks Bush for destroying social security to give your rich friends a tax break.
Thanks Bush for pushing through a medicare measure so that it's illegal for states to bargain with drug companies for better prices and illegal to go somewhere else for better prices. Is this a drug company gift or what?
Thanks Bush for saddling us with the largest deficits ever that will push up interest rates and burden our children for years to come.
Thanks Bush for going backwards on clean air and clean water and calling that "healthy". Healthy for your rich contributers fat wallets, more like.
Clinton signed the arsenic rule just minutes prior to him leaving office. He could have signed it in the middle of his term. He left Bush with a political landmine, pure and simple.
Clean air, who are the ones that want a waiver on the oxygenate rule? Last I heard, it was Davis of California trying to get Bush to sign a waiver on that. Oh my, what about the air over California?!!!
Could be that the pharmaceutical companies have a valid reason for going to the federal government to try and keep their research and development going. It is the power delegated to the federal government to regulate interstate commerce as well as trade with other countries. A pharmaceutical company with a 10% success rate in their drug R&D is considered a successful well-run company. Raw materials are a tiny fraction of the cost of a drug. Last I see, talented biochemists do not grow on trees.
Social security... a Ponzi scheme. Where can I sign up to get off of Social Security withholding? I'll sign a binding contract that says I cannot get a single penny from it right now, where do I sign? Heck, the Social Security Administration can keep what I have given in so far, get me the heck out of it! (If Social Security is such a great scheme, why aren't the Democrat Senators and Congressmen lining up to get in it?)
Oh, and what about all of those burned down National Forests? Pretty picturesque and relaxing huh? Oh yeah, how about the roadless rules for the National Forests and Parks? I guess if you want to enjoy your National Forest, you should just sit at home and watch the National Geographic. Can't hack and slash your way through that, that would be harmful. Oh, the current roads are getting overgrown, sorry, if you are a disabled person, you are going to have to invent a hiking wheelchair.
IJ Reilly
Mar 4, 2004, 06:10 PM
You got any shells left in that blunderbuss?
Frohickey
Mar 4, 2004, 06:22 PM
Actually, I think this is original writing by Frohickey -- not some RNC stuff.
I think the Repubs here are getting a little sensitive about all the Bush-bashing going on. I think it is a little insensitive of people to be bashing the president for destroying the economy, starting illegal wars and trying to insert hate language into the Constitution -- after all, he's doing the best he can.
;)
No. Sorry, I can't claim credit for the post. I found it on www.freerepublic.com.
Nah, Republicans aren't sensitive. Remember, the elephant has thick skin but have a great memory. ;)
mactastic
Mar 4, 2004, 06:55 PM
Clinton signed the arsenic rule just minutes prior to him leaving office. He could have signed it in the middle of his term. He left Bush with a political landmine, pure and simple.
IIRC Clinton lowered the allowable levels of arsenic in the drinking water. That's not a political landmine, it's good sense. Bush ignored the scientific community's findings (really? again?) and rolled the Clinton restriction back. Besides, I don't hear you complaining about the recess appointments done behind everyone's back.
Clean air, who are the ones that want a waiver on the oxygenate rule? Last I heard, it was Davis of California trying to get Bush to sign a waiver on that. Oh my, what about the air over California?!!!
And who wants to raise CAFE standards to clean California's air? Who wants to drill for offshore oil against the wishes of the residents of the state? Whose Clear Skies Initiative will increase the amount of pollution?
Could be that the pharmaceutical companies have a valid reason for going to the federal government to try and keep their research and development going. It is the power delegated to the federal government to regulate interstate commerce as well as trade with other countries. A pharmaceutical company with a 10% success rate in their drug R&D is considered a successful well-run company. Raw materials are a tiny fraction of the cost of a drug. Last I see, talented biochemists do not grow on trees.
Oh, so now you are in favor of the interstate commerce clause of the constitution? I thought it was overused?
Social security... a Ponzi scheme. Where can I sign up to get off of Social Security withholding? I'll sign a binding contract that says I cannot get a single penny from it right now, where do I sign? Heck, the Social Security Administration can keep what I have given in so far, get me the heck out of it! (If Social Security is such a great scheme, why aren't the Democrat Senators and Congressmen lining up to get in it?)
Why don't you just not collect it and keep your moral high ground when you retire? You'll have made so much money by then, and you are so smart that I'm sure you won't need SS money anyway.
Oh, and what about all of those burned down National Forests? Pretty picturesque and relaxing huh? Oh yeah, how about the roadless rules for the National Forests and Parks? I guess if you want to enjoy your National Forest, you should just sit at home and watch the National Geographic. Can't hack and slash your way through that, that would be harmful. Oh, the current roads are getting overgrown, sorry, if you are a disabled person, you are going to have to invent a hiking wheelchair.
You mean all those forests that the Bush administration was quietly gutting the funding for clearing the underbrush from?
Sayhey
Mar 4, 2004, 07:01 PM
Dear DNC and Candidates,
Thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak my mind. I lost my job this past year. When Clinton was president, I worked in a prosperous enterprise.
But in this last year, we had to close our operations. Far worse, I lost two of my sons in Bush's evil war in Iraq. They gave their lives for their country, and for what?
My pain of losing my sons is indescribable. While it is trivial next to the loss of my sons, I regret to say that I also lost my homes. I simply had nothing left.
I am a senior citizen with various medical problems. I'm not in a position where I can begin a new career. I was reduced to the point where I was homeless, all because of President Bush. And when the authorities found me, did they have any compassion for my misfortune and ailments? No, I was arrested.
If I had any money left, I would donate it to the Democratic party. If Al Gore had been elected in 2000, I guarantee you, I would still have a job, a home, and most importantly, my sons!
Regards, Saddam Hussein
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:D
Frohickey,
I take it from your post of this nonsense that you agree with the idea that all those who complain about losing a job, have lost family in Iraq, or are worried about homelessness and health care are, of course, lousy no good friends and supporters of Saddam Hussein? How dare people object to Bush's enlightened leadership? Come on Frohickey, it isn't even good satire.
Sun Baked
Mar 4, 2004, 07:23 PM
I think the Democrats would be perfectly happy to help out a fellow Democrat down on his luck with cash stashed in his shoes. http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11920&stc=1
BTW, the guy in California who paid $200,000 to Hugh Rodham (probably should say one of many who tried) for a Presidential pardon -- just plead guilty to tax evasion. http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6694&stc=1
Under a plea agreement negotiated with prosecutors, herbal remedy magnate Almon Glenn Braswell will receive an 18-month prison term provided he makes good on a promise to pay $10.4 million in back taxes, penalties and interest to the Internal Revenue Service.
Neserk
Mar 4, 2004, 07:36 PM
My 59 year old father was just permanently laid off from the job he has had for 17 years. He was less than 2 years from retirement.
Bush has to go, NOW!
wwworry
Mar 4, 2004, 08:18 PM
So Sun Baked, I have news for you. Clinton isn't the president anymore. I don't see you getting all up in arms over Nixon either.
And Frohickey, an industry (drug companies) that has been, overall the most profitablein the US in the last 20 years, that spends more on advertising than research, that is giving the guy who wrote the legislation a sweet high paying job as soon as he leaves office does not need an anti-competitive, anti-consumer govt. provided anti-capitalist gift. Unless you think bargaining for better prices is somehow socialist.
The republicans can't run on their record. They can only run on lies and fear.
All of those things I wrote in the above post are facts. This administration does not take responsibility for its own actions.
Sun Baked
Mar 4, 2004, 08:30 PM
So Sun Baked, I have news for you. Clinton isn't the president anymore. I don't see you getting all up in arms over Nixon either.But the idiot just plead guilty to tax evasion this week, to a crime the IRS was investigating while he was sliding money to Hugh Rodham to wipe his record clean.
Now if anyone surrounding the Nixon fiasco was arrested for their video voyeurism antics, that would probably also be worth a laugh.
mactastic
Mar 4, 2004, 08:32 PM
I think the Democrats would be perfectly happy to help out a fellow Democrat down on his luck with cash stashed in his shoes. http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11920&stc=1
BTW, the guy in California who paid $200,000 to Hugh Rodham (probably should say one of many who tried) for a Presidential pardon -- just plead guilty to tax evasion. http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6694&stc=1
Wow, you really think Democrat = Saddam lover?
BTW, you remember who John Poindexter is?
How about Elliot Abrams? :D
wwworry
Mar 4, 2004, 08:51 PM
But the idiot just plead guilty to tax evasion this week, to a crime the IRS was investigating while he was sliding money to Hugh Rodham to wipe his record clean.
Now if anyone surrounding the Nixon fiasco was arrested for their video voyeurism antics, that would probably also be worth a laugh.
Does Rush Limbaugh, Bill Bennet, or Ken Lay count? What if the president and the vice president both had drunk driving records and avoided the draft? For some reason I don't find it funny. Well, that Limbag is a drug addict who had his maid go buy drugs for him is funny.
Frohickey
Mar 4, 2004, 08:51 PM
IIRC Clinton lowered the allowable levels of arsenic in the drinking water. That's not a political landmine, it's good sense. Bush ignored the scientific community's findings (really? again?) and rolled the Clinton restriction back. Besides, I don't hear you complaining about the recess appointments done behind everyone's back.
And who wants to raise CAFE standards to clean California's air? Who wants to drill for offshore oil against the wishes of the residents of the state? Whose Clear Skies Initiative will increase the amount of pollution?
Oh, so now you are in favor of the interstate commerce clause of the constitution? I thought it was overused?
Why don't you just not collect it and keep your moral high ground when you retire? You'll have made so much money by then, and you are so smart that I'm sure you won't need SS money anyway.
You mean all those forests that the Bush administration was quietly gutting the funding for clearing the underbrush from?
When did Clinton enact the decrease in arsenic levels?
Clinton did recess appointments of judicial officers as well, besides, its apples and oranges. Clinton's enactment of the decrease in arsenic levels was done at the end of his final term.
Interstate commerce, especially between different countries is exactly within the powers delegated to the federal government. The way I see it, with mandatory set prices in foreign countries, that sure sounds like the US consumer is being unfairly saddled with a higher percentage of the R&D costs of new drugs, new drugs that will be exported and have mandatory set prices as well. Keep this up, and you will see the pharmaceutical innovation dry up.
I'm already not expecting to get much out of social security. In fact, I'll help you out if I can get out of the Social Security program. How about that for the moral high ground. Just give me the choice, staying in, or getting out. I thought you liked giving people the choice.
(BTW, I'm pro-choice, as far as abortions go.) I have no qualms about what people do with their own reproductive systems. Just as long as I'm not the one subsidizing the elective operations on their reproductive systems. If I am to subsidize abortions, I think that its only fair that I be personally involved in the conception as well. ;)
Funding for clearing the underbrush... I think that maybe what should be done is that part of the federally owned lands be sold to the highest bidder. Then we can start charging property taxes on them, both state and federal property taxes. Then, you can use these taxes to fund the clearing of underbrush on the remaining federal lands. Heck, there might be more left over for more schools and salary increases for teachers.
Clean air, clean water. You know, conservative need clean air and clean water to live to you know. Not every conservative lives off of noxious fumes and liquids. Though, I think Ted Kennedy would croak if he doesn't have his alkeehole. :D
Okay, common ground... must find common ground.
Do you agree that each person have the right to their own body, what they can do with their own body, and what they can get with their own body, as long as doing so does not harm another person's right to the same?
wwworry
Mar 4, 2004, 08:59 PM
now you want to turn the debate away from Bush's bad record by talking about abortion, next you'll want to distract us from Bush administration lies by an uproar about gay marriage. Oh wait...
Frohickey
Mar 4, 2004, 09:04 PM
So Sun Baked, I have news for you. Clinton isn't the president anymore. I don't see you getting all up in arms over Nixon either.
And Frohickey, an industry (drug companies) that has been, overall the most profitablein the US in the last 20 years, that spends more on advertising than research, that is giving the guy who wrote the legislation a sweet high paying job as soon as he leaves office does not need an anti-competitive, anti-consumer govt. provided anti-capitalist gift. Unless you think bargaining for better prices is somehow socialist.
The republicans can't run on their record. They can only run on lies and fear.
All of those things I wrote in the above post are facts. This administration does not take responsibility for its own actions.
Care to share your facts?
Hard numbers, SEC filings, etc would be appreciated.
Maybe the length of drug patents need to be lengthened in order to hide the time period of FDA testing it takes before a drug is ALLOWED to be sold. Oh, also, tax writeoffs for the amount of money spent for the required FDA testing. That would definitely lessen the costs of drugs.
I wonder how much computers would cost if Dell/Apple/HP/IBM/etc are required to go through a Reliability, Performance and Compliance testing before they are allowed to be sold to consumers. What if a single change to the compliance portion of the test mandates an expensive retest?
Sun Baked
Mar 4, 2004, 09:07 PM
Does Rush Limbaugh, Bill Bennet, or Ken Lay count? What if the president and the vice president both had drunk driving records and avoided the draft? For some reason I don't find it funny. Well, that Limbag is a drug addict who had his maid go buy drugs for him is funny.Only if they get nabbed for their DUI after picking up a transvestite prostitute on Hollywood Blvd.
mactastic
Mar 4, 2004, 09:08 PM
When did Clinton enact the decrease in arsenic levels?
Clinton did recess appointments of judicial officers as well, besides, its apples and oranges. Clinton's enactment of the decrease in arsenic levels was done at the end of his final term.
:eek: Wait, you mean Clinton was the first president to use his final few days in office to do some things the next administration found objectionable? I'm shocked I tell you! Shocked and appalled!
Wait, who pardoned all these people?
Elliott Abrams
Pardoned for any and all Iran-Contra crimes.
Aslam P. Adam
Clemency for heroin trafficking.
Duane R. Clarridge
Pardoned for any and all Iran-Contra crimes.
Edwin L. Cox
Pardoned for bank fraud.
Alan Fiers
Pardoned for any and all Iran-Contra crimes.
Clair George
Pardoned for any and all Iran-Contra crimes.
Armand Hammer
Pardoned for making illegal contributions to President Nixon's 1972 re-election campaign.
Robert C. McFarlane
Pardoned for any and all Iran-Contra crimes.
Joseph Occhipinti
Commuted sentence for violating the civil rights of accused criminals.
Caspar W. Weinberger
Pardoned for any and all Iran-Contra crimes.
wwworry
Mar 4, 2004, 09:17 PM
You're just not worth the time to look it all up Frohickey. Sorry.
I don't understand why a supposed libertarian is FOR anti-competitive govt. subsidized drug company give-aways. Why is it OK for states not to be able to bargain on prices when you know YOUR TAX DOLLARS will have to pay for the higher prices? It seems kind of hippocritical to me. Why does a guy who wants to get rid of Social security defend the flawed medicare bill so much? That also seems hippocritical.
Thomas Veil
Mar 4, 2004, 10:07 PM
Nah, Republicans aren't sensitive. Remember, the elephant has thick skin but have a great memory. ;)
And makes enormous piles of dung.
IJ Reilly
Mar 4, 2004, 11:55 PM
I don't understand why a supposed libertarian is FOR anti-competitive govt. subsidized drug company give-aways.
He doesn't seem to mind the redistribution of wealth to corporations. These are the views of a crypo-libertarian, not the "real thing."
wdlove
Apr 1, 2004, 02:20 PM
Boston should be very intersting the last week in July. My wife is taking vacation bacause of the nighmare that's coming.
The major alternative routes for traffic detoured from Interstate 93 during the Democratic National Convention will probably be Route 128 and the Ted Williams Tunnel, shifts that would pack tens of thousands of additional cars onto those roads.
Secondary roads such as Routes 60, 99, and 1A north of the city are expected to be quickly overwhelmed, too, as motorists search for alternatives.
"People should understand their evening commute will not be a smooth one and consider leaving their cars at home, taking the T, or finding other ways to get into the city," said Tom Tinlin, deputy commissioner at the Boston Transportation Department.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2004/04/01/convention_week_detours_eyed/
Ron Tashjian, a single father of grown children, is really looking forward to the Democratic National Convention in Boston this summer. Not that he plans to attend; he isn't even a Democrat.
But Tashjian, who is retired, is hoping his 1,600-square-foot, three-bedroom, 1 1/2-bath Garrison Colonial in Melrose will get snatched up by delegates in town for the weeklong party at the end of July.
The fact that the house is 12 miles from the FleetCenter, and that Interstate 93 and North Station may be closed for security purposes, has not dampened this enthusiasm, or his expectations.
He's asking $6,250. For a week.
http://www.boston.com/yourlife/home/articles/2004/04/01/cashing_in_on_the_democratic_party/
diamond geezer
Apr 1, 2004, 03:00 PM
You're just not worth the time to look it all up Frohickey. Sorry.
I don't understand why a supposed libertarian is FOR anti-competitive govt. subsidized drug company give-aways. Why is it OK for states not to be able to bargain on prices when you know YOUR TAX DOLLARS will have to pay for the higher prices? It seems kind of hippocritical to me. Why does a guy who wants to get rid of Social security defend the flawed medicare bill so much? That also seems hippocritical.
Quite simply really, Frohicky is a Republican before he's a human. Even if their policies go against his personal views, he will defend them to the hilt.
It's one of the many problems with America's flawed and corrupt system of Government. With only 2 parties it galvanizes people to support their tribe, no matter what the circumstances.
The "American Way" has been subverted by big business and has become a cancer on the "free World"
diamond geezer
Apr 1, 2004, 03:03 PM
And makes enormous piles of dung.
It also has big tusks (money) and huge legs (power) to gouge and trample anything in it's way
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