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Kermit the frog
Jan 8, 2009, 06:25 PM
I have this "leo" diamond engagement ring I had bought for a girl from a past relationship. Long story short...we broke up I got to keep the ring but she has all the paper work for it and won't give it up. I don't know what to do with it...I want to sell it and just get rid of it (my current girlfriend doesn't like having it around)

Any ideas?



drichards
Jan 8, 2009, 06:26 PM
Pawnshop, craigslist, cash4gold.com, eBay, independent jewelers...

JLatte
Jan 8, 2009, 06:28 PM
I have this "leo" diamond engagement ring I had bought for a girl from a past relationship. Long story short...we broke up I got to keep the ring but she has all the paper work for it and won't give it up. I don't know what to do with it...I want to sell it and just get rid of it (my current girlfriend doesn't like having it around)

Any ideas?

Take a trip to Mount Doom?

To be honest, I'm not sure you could get more without the paper work than what you could get at a pawn shop. Maybe try taking it to several jewelry shops and seeing if they can assess it for a price? They can check the diamonds for the laser engravements to see if it's been reported stolen usually, and once they see it's legit maybe they might give a price?

MacDawg
Jan 8, 2009, 06:29 PM
Can you trade it up at the store where you bought it?
Maybe a little nicer ring for the new love of your life?

Woof, Woof - Dawg http://homepage.mac.com/k.j.vinson/pawprint.gif

Kermit the frog
Jan 8, 2009, 06:36 PM
I've gone to a million shops and they won't do anything without any paperwork which really sucks...I bet they get a lot of stolen stuff that comes though. I don't trust craigslist (there have been some pretty scandalous scams on the news around here lately)

I'd even trade this ring for a xbox360 and stuff. I just want it gone :(

redwarrior
Jan 8, 2009, 06:38 PM
Where did you purchase it? Have you asked them about the paper work?

Kermit the frog
Jan 8, 2009, 06:40 PM
Yeah i contacted the store, they don't have copies anymore of the original receipt...and they charge a worse re-stocking fee then apple!!! The only piece of paperwork I was able to find was the appraisal paper.

The3nd
Jan 8, 2009, 06:48 PM
interested... how much and how many cts :P

redwarrior
Jan 8, 2009, 07:02 PM
That's a tough one man. You can research a little on ebay though, get an idea if that might be an avenue for you. Search by completed listings and tweak the search for rings like yours, see what they are selling for and if they are selling much at all.

Remember, quality jewelry increases in value, so holding on to it won't cost you money. And, in today's economy, it might be more lucrative to wait a while, or at least take your time selling it.

MooneyFlyer
Jan 8, 2009, 07:05 PM
Offer her 10%...

QuantumLo0p
Jan 8, 2009, 07:12 PM
Can you obtain copies of the certs from the jeweler you bought the ring from?

If not then maybe...

Summon her pathetic ass into conciliation court. You could get a judge to force her to pay for an appraisal as well as the court costs. Would serve her right for not being civil.
:D

mkrishnan
Jan 8, 2009, 07:12 PM
Yeah i contacted the store, they don't have copies anymore of the original receipt...and they charge a worse re-stocking fee then apple!!! The only piece of paperwork I was able to find was the appraisal paper.

It's ridiculous that they don't keep the documentation... but is the restocking fee really worse than if you were to pawn it (if you could pawn it, i.e. if you did have the certificate)?

Kermit the frog
Jan 8, 2009, 07:16 PM
Can you obtain copies of the certs from the jeweler you bought the ring from?

If not then maybe...

Summon her pathetic ass into conciliation court. You could get a judge to force her to pay for an appraisal as well as the court costs. Would serve her right for not being civil.
:D

I would take her to court but unfortunately she is a manipulative sponge who cons her way in and out of everything. She is so far in debt with me it's not even funny. She is just a horrible person...and I'd like to sell this ring to help pay off some of the debt that she cause me :mad::confused:

leekohler
Jan 8, 2009, 07:17 PM
I'd start demanding she give you the paperwork. That would make me pretty angry. However, did you buy it with a credit card? If so, can they give you the transaction info?

bobfitz14
Jan 8, 2009, 07:19 PM
I'd even trade this ring for a xbox360 and stuff. I just want it gone :(

damn, how much did it cost you?!

Offer her 10%...

if you mean the ex with the paperwork, good idea.

Dagless
Jan 8, 2009, 07:29 PM
Could be irrational back and offer her a percentage of the sale and just not give it to her?

leishan
Jan 8, 2009, 08:00 PM
Could you get duplicate paperwork from the place that you purchased it from? Sorry if this was already mentioned...

Kermit the frog
Jan 8, 2009, 08:10 PM
the diamond was about 1500 and the band was another 800-900 with the sizing and engraving and stuff. I wish i had a better camera other then my isight I'd snap a few pictures of it.

Kermit the frog
Jan 8, 2009, 08:28 PM
Here are some pictures....again sorry for the crappy quailty I don't have a nice digital SLR just a built in isight!!

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c399/accmaseedbun/Photo202.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c399/accmaseedbun/Photo203.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c399/accmaseedbun/Photo205.jpg

Melrose
Jan 8, 2009, 09:23 PM
Can you trade it up at the store where you bought it?
Maybe a little nicer ring for the new love of your life?

Woof, Woof - Dawg http://homepage.mac.com/k.j.vinson/pawprint.gif

Meh... I'd cut completely free from any association with past relationships. But that's just me.. If you must, get cash. And then, when the time is right, buy the current gal a new one.

Raid
Jan 8, 2009, 09:23 PM
Yeah i contacted the store, they don't have copies anymore of the original receipt...and they charge a worse re-stocking fee then apple!!! The only piece of paperwork I was able to find was the appraisal paper. Does the appraisal paper have a picture of the ring on it? The Canadian appraisal papers (at least the one I got for my wife's engagement ring) comes with a picture of the ring, details as to cut, colour, clarity and carats (as well as setting details). If your appraisal certificate is anything like mine I wouldn't know why any store wouldn't make an offer after a quick exam.

Kermit the frog
Jan 9, 2009, 03:27 AM
Does the appraisal paper have a picture of the ring on it? The Canadian appraisal papers (at least the one I got for my wife's engagement ring) comes with a picture of the ring, details as to cut, colour, clarity and carats (as well as setting details). If your appraisal certificate is anything like mine I wouldn't know why any store wouldn't make an offer after a quick exam.

Yeah it has some of the ring info on it. But my name isn't on there...and in order to sell it the store needs proof that it's my property... and i'm not the kinda guy to go around do shady stuff.

Kermit the frog
Jan 9, 2009, 03:28 AM
Meh... I'd cut completely free from any association with past relationships. But that's just me.. If you must, get cash. And then, when the time is right, buy the current gal a new one.

yeah my current girlfriend is getting tired of seeing it lol....and i'm tired of hearing it lmao:p:p:p

iBlue
Jan 9, 2009, 03:42 AM
Why would the current girlfriend be tired of seeing it? Are you leaving it out all the time? It's a ring, friggin put it away somewhere. Out of sight, out of mind.

Unfortunately you're going to take a massive hit when selling it, with or without the paperwork. Just one of those things. blame the recession.

Kermit the frog
Jan 9, 2009, 05:17 AM
Why would the current girlfriend be tired of seeing it? Are you leaving it out all the time? It's a ring, friggin put it away somewhere. Out of sight, out of mind.

Unfortunately you're going to take a massive hit when selling it, with or without the paperwork. Just one of those things. blame the recession.

:eek::eek:curses george w. bush :eek::eek:

OBAMA 09'

arkitect
Jan 9, 2009, 05:24 AM
yeah my current girlfriend is getting tired of seeing it lol....and i'm tired of hearing it lmao:p:p:p

Do you keep it on a chain around your neck?
If you don't want it around just give it to someone you can trust to keep safe for you till you get the paperwork sorted out.

If she gave the ring back to you but is witholding the "paperwork" then you can take her to court.

she is a manipulative sponge who cons her way in and out of everything. She is so far in debt with me it's not even funny. She is just a horrible person...
Especially as she seems to be an untrustworthy person, judging from your posts… you'd have a fair case against her.

mkrishnan
Jan 9, 2009, 06:36 AM
Srsly... I glossed over it too, but I don't understand the whole "my current girlfriend doesn't want it around" thing either. So this is, what, originally, from your estimate, about a $2300-2500 ring. If you're not happy with any of your current options with respect to it, just put it in a safe deposit box or squirrel it away somewhere with other valuables or give it to a family member for safe holding.

nbs2
Jan 9, 2009, 07:59 AM
It's one thing to "con your way out of everything," another to con your way in front of a judge. Because the paperwork is essential to establishing ownership, she's costing you the $2k you spent, plus whatever loss in value as time marches on. You'll get the paperwork.

The engraving on the other hand, I expect is personalized and does mean that you will take a serious hit on the value.

CorvusCamenarum
Jan 9, 2009, 08:19 AM
The engraving on the other hand, I expect is personalized and does mean that you will take a serious hit on the value.

He could just get it remounted. It would cost a bit though but I bet he could also have the jeweler add some side stones and have a brand new ring.

If the OP is hellbent on pawning it, he can always bring it next door to Alabama. All you need to pawn something here is your driver's license.

BlackSnow
Jan 9, 2009, 04:19 PM
If it doesn't have old girlfriend's name on it, sell to a person who wants it.

Kermit the frog
Jan 10, 2009, 01:20 AM
If it doesn't have old girlfriend's name on it, sell to a person who wants it.

I'd like to sell it...I'm entertaining all offers i just want it gone

teflon
Jan 10, 2009, 01:53 AM
Honestly, I would consult with a free lawyer, get a printout of what you can do/charge her with, then go up to your ex and hand it to her. Tell her if she doesn't give you the paperwork, she better be prepared to face you in court. It's ridiculous for her to hold the paperwork especially if she gave you back the ring, and more so if she caused you to be in debt.
She's probably just not giving the paperwork because she wants to be a b**** and think she can get away with it. Once you actually hit back, she will deflate in front of your eyes.

QuantumLo0p
Jan 11, 2009, 10:11 AM
I would take her to court but unfortunately she is a manipulative sponge who cons her way in and out of everything. She is so far in debt with me it's not even funny. She is just a horrible person...and I'd like to sell this ring to help pay off some of the debt that she cause me :mad::confused:

Sorry to hear that. I know the type; I have encountered this species of shrew earlier in life and through friends. The shrew tends to suck all monetary resources from you then start syphoning off your soul until the brain implodes and the victim may turn into a zombie. Fortunately there are ways to deal with the affliction such as hanging out with REAL friends, drinking beer and attending as many sporting events as possible.

Seriously, try any way you can. First try to estimate the value then see what the market is doing and go for it.

Best regards and well wishes.