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timsutcliffe
Jan 10, 2009, 04:47 AM
Hello,

I'm fairly sure this is a scam, but what I want to know is how. I've posted my MacBook Pro on there (https://post.craigslist.org/manage/974861948/5iswf), and have had few emails from the same person asking me to send it to West Africa.

However, all she wants is a PayPal money request so she can put the money in and then I can send the item. Is there anyway that she can scam me if I wait until the money is in there before posting the item?

Thanks,
Tim



dukebound85
Jan 10, 2009, 04:50 AM
dont do it

africa, paypal, send it to her all big tip offs its a scam


of course you can get scammed even if you get a confirmation from the bank saying the money is in your account.

error on the side of caution

use craigslist as a face to face transaction only. and when you do it face to face, do it in a very public place

GGJstudios
Jan 10, 2009, 04:58 AM
http://guides.macrumors.com/Buying_Online_-_Is_This_Company_Legitimate%3F

THX1139
Jan 10, 2009, 05:01 AM
You're on the edge of deep whirlpool. What starts off sounding like a good offer will slowly spiral out of control as you get sucked into the vortex. On example might be that just as the party is getting ready to send you money, they will suddenly come up with a good excuse to use another means of paying. The absolute only way I would sell anything to another country (especially Africa), is if I could somehow have a bank (not my bank) hand me the cash without having me use my bank account BEFORE I send the computer. Once I have money, I could care less what happens. Another thing you need to be careful of is them sending forged money orders or bank checks. Even if you cash the check and receive the money, you are still liable if the check turns out fraudulent. If I were you, I'd back away fast. It's not worth the hassle or risk.

timsutcliffe
Jan 10, 2009, 05:32 AM
I've got no problem with the fact that this is a scam, I'm 99.9% sure that it is, but i'm wondering how.

With just the PayPal money request, what can they do?

rdowns
Jan 10, 2009, 05:35 AM
They will hijack someone's PP account to pay you, you ship the computer and PP hits you with a chargeback.

mcavjame
Jan 10, 2009, 05:38 AM
I've got no problem with the fact that this is a scam, I'm 99.9% sure that it is, but i'm wondering how.

With just the PayPal money request, what can they do?

As THX has indicated, Paypal is just the hook to get you into a transaction. They are counting on the fact that you will want to complete the deal once you start a process with them. Guaranteed they will get a sick grandmother, delay, need to get a friend to help, they can only do it a certain way. They will try to look accommodating, but in actual fact you will not receive any money. Use Craigslist and Kijiji what they were designed for: face to face cash for goods exchange.

maceleven
Jan 10, 2009, 06:09 AM
they bleach real 5 dollar bills and print them into $100 or $50 bills, they mark like real money even have the line line across but water will wash away the ink. The line across if you hold it to light will read 5 dollars not 100 or 50:cool:

01jamcon
Jan 10, 2009, 06:12 AM
Yes, unfortunately as others have pointed out, paypal is no guarantee of real money, even the money being in your bank account is no guarantee. Bit of a shame really.

numbersyx
Jan 10, 2009, 06:24 AM
This is interesting. I thought once the money was paid into PayPal it was guaranteed. Isn't this the point of the service?

mcavjame
Jan 10, 2009, 06:36 AM
This is interesting. I thought once the money was paid into PayPal it was guaranteed. Isn't this the point of the service?

They gain your confidence by saying they are willing to use paypal. The likelihood of that being the service that they end up saying they can use is not very high.

BlueRevolution
Jan 10, 2009, 06:38 AM
Never respond to a message on craigslist that doesn't explicitly identify your auction. Spammers collect emails by sending vague "interested in the product" messages to the redirect addresses craigslist provides. Better yet, disable the direct email link altogether and use a primitive CAPTCHA system:

"Put the following words into a logical order: send spam me not do [at] example [dot] com."

Scottsdale
Jan 10, 2009, 12:15 PM
I have had problems when listing anything computer related of value. If you tell them yes, then they will send you a bogus email saying from PayPal and that they paid you. It will tell you to send the computer, and once you ship it, provide them a copy of the shipping receipt and they will "release" the funds. Of course PayPal doesn't do that, it's all part of the scam.

Do NOT EVER ship anything to anyone on Craig's list. If you think ok buyer, encourage them to buy it from you via a private sale on eBay. Then you can get seller protection from PayPal through a legitimate sale.

Best to just wait for a local buyer and ignore the other emails. If you reply to a scammer, they will probably use your email for future spamming.

Good luck selling.

djkny
Jan 10, 2009, 01:08 PM
Why are you wasting your time even deliberating this? (unless, of course, you want to appear on the next Dateline episode)

Macky-Mac
Jan 10, 2009, 04:09 PM
I've got no problem with the fact that this is a scam, I'm 99.9% sure that it is, but i'm wondering how.

With just the PayPal money request, what can they do?

they can send you a fake email that's supposedly from paypal showing the money is now in your account and saying you need to immediately send the computer in order for your account to remain in good standing.....people fall for that one all the time

or they can use a stolen credit card to fund the paypal payment. Money will show up in your Paypal account and you'll send off the computer. Paypal will withdraw the money from your account when it discovers the payment was a fraud and you'll be the one to take the financial hit

or they'll say they're having problems with Paypal and want to send you a money order.......in time your bank will discover the money order they sent is counterfeit and take back the money they credited into your account when you depsoited it.....you'll have sent off the computer by then of course

or.....well, there are lots of ways to scam you

dukebound85
Jan 10, 2009, 04:16 PM
do this haha
http://www.419eater.com/

rdowns
Jan 10, 2009, 04:32 PM
do this haha
http://www.419eater.com/


I prefer this (http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/).

Andyee85
Jan 10, 2009, 04:33 PM
I've bought and sold a lot of items on CL. NEVER trust anyone using a third party!!!

jayman99
Jan 10, 2009, 04:40 PM
If you are selling on Craigslist, ONLY meet in person! I have done this many times, ONLY meet in person. Additionally, you can let the buyer know you ONLY accept cash. Bring a counterfeit marker with you to check the bills. Bring someone with you as a witness. Meet in a PUBLIC place where there are other people around. Do not go to someone's house, do not meet at the buyer's house. You can meet at a fast-food restaurant, college, public library, etc. I have heard some pretty scary stories about selling on craigslist, so just be careful. Best of luck!

Davy.Shalom
Jan 10, 2009, 07:11 PM
Send him a P-P-PowerBook!

(if you don't know look up P-P-PowerBook!)

sickmacdoc
Jan 10, 2009, 09:44 PM
Send him a P-P-PowerBook!

(if you don't know look up P-P-PowerBook!)

Don't need to! ;) rdowns linked that story just above (great story!)

leishan
Jan 10, 2009, 09:54 PM
I definitely agree with the poster above--only meet in person if doing transactions on Craigslist!

dvdhsu
Jan 10, 2009, 09:56 PM
Don't need to! ;) rdowns linked that story just above (great story!)
Yeah. That was a great story. However, they actually have your real e-mail address- so that could get kinda risky.

I've heard from people that claim to buy my PowerBook and pay me with PayPal. However, one other thing is that even if they pay with PayPal, it is still possible for you to get scammed. They can state that they got a bad item, that never even turned on. Then, PayPal would have to pay them back, and you would have lost a nice MacBook Pro.
Definitley don't do it.
About the PPPowerBook thing-it's your choice.

MacsArePimp
Jan 10, 2009, 11:48 PM
Hey, if you want to know what most of them do, here it is - They tell you they will use paypal. You get an email from a fake paypal server like service@ebay.paypal (FAAAAKE) that says they have received your payment but need your approval to process, and you have to log in through that email, in which they take your paypal password. Or they say in the "paypal" email that you have to have a shipping receipt before getting your money, that doesnt exist. So yeah. FAKE. Anything from Africa - usually Nigeria specifically - IS FAKE. Only use face to face, and always take people with you to the meeting, lol.

phrehdd
Jan 12, 2009, 02:27 AM
Hello,

I'm fairly sure this is a scam, but what I want to know is how. I've posted my MacBook Pro on there (https://post.craigslist.org/manage/974861948/5iswf), and have had few emails from the same person asking me to send it to West Africa.

However, all she wants is a PayPal money request so she can put the money in and then I can send the item. Is there anyway that she can scam me if I wait until the money is in there before posting the item?

Thanks,
Tim

Pardon my language - SCREW ANYONE WHO IS OUT OF STATE wanting to buy your stuff. Even more so from out of country. Your safest bet is to post locally and agree to meet the person in a public place and demo the system for them and ultimately, take cash only.

I have sold items this way and given that I am honest, I tell them everything about the item(s) so they are happy and I have my money.

- Phrehdd